How do I get the English versions. I think I got logged in but was in Bohemian. Thanks for all the help. Darla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Hoskins" <FHOSKINS@mn.rr.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 3:11 PM Subject: Re: Re: [CZ] Czech Surname database? > Would it be possible to add the names of my Great-Grand parents. Josef - > Anna Klimes. John - Marry (Marie) Barta. Both sets of GGrandparents came > to America in 1872 and 1873. > > Thanks > > Darla Hoskins (Barta) > fhoskins@mn.rr.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "List Administration" <chook@starpower.net> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 8:37 PM > Subject: Fwd: Re: [CZ] Czech Surname database? > > > > Correspondence below with Honza Uher is self-explanatory. > > While we have the pleasure of Honza's company, please send > > your questions about the Czech Surname Database to the list. > > For any who may have missed checking out the database, > > please see > > > > http://www.rodclan.cz/index.php > > > > Elaine > > > > > > ===8<==============Original message text=============== > > > > > > > Hi Elaine, > > > > > I think I can be convinced to subscribe to your mailing list and answer > any > > > questions that may come up regarding our database pages. Which mailing > list > > > should I sign up for? I see you have quite a few. I would rather stick > > > with only one, if possible. > > > > > You pretty much described the main features of the database already. It > > > serves as a contact list for researchers who share ancestors with the > same > > > surname. The database contains family surnames (including place/region > > > info) contributed by researchers who leave their contact email address. > > > Anyone can browse/search the database and if they find a surname they > are > > > interested in, they can email the contributor. All information exchange > is > > > then handled directly by the individuals. Anyone is also welcome to > > > contribute surnames to the database. It's free and it increases the > chance > > > that you will get in touch with someone who has the same roots. A user > > > registration is required before you can contribute - merely for added > > > convenience of adding/editing surnames linked to users' accounts. > > > > > As I mentioned, the database in today's form is more of a contact list > > > rather than a genealogical database containing detailed information > about > > > ancestors. That said, we have plans to upgrade the database to contain > > > family trees and detailed information - along the lines of what you can > find > > > on many genealogical servers in the US. If everything goes well (and > time > > > permits), the new database should be online in the next few months. And > > > yes, it will be multilingual. > > > > > Honza > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "List Administration" <chook@starpower.net> > > > To: "Honza Uher" <juher@san.rr.com> > > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 7:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Czech Surname database? > > > > >> Honza, > > >> > > >> Thank you very much for replying. I am administrator of > > >> several Rootsweb mailing lists devoted to genealogical > > >> research in the Czech Republic. Your website has caught the > > >> attention of many subscribers. > > >> > > >> I will forward one such email after this message. There are > > >> more. > > >> > > >> Could we convince you to sign on to the mailing list, if > > >> only for awhile, to assist some of the American subscribers > > >> in using your surname database? Are you interested in > > >> adding the surnames being researched by the mailing list > > >> subscribers? > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> > > >> Elaine > > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are > making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list > address and add the individual's address. > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and add the individual's address. >

Thanks, Susan, for your interest and response. I take the train into NYC fromCT...about 90 minutes. Thanks for the info on the Sokol and Jiri. I will pursue those aspects. I simply called the pastor to ask her about the baptism certs, marriage certs and she told me of all the documents that are stuffed in various cabinets, closets etc. (the safe was apparently stoled about 30 years ago which contained most of these documents) So, myself and another Cz-lister, met at the church last week. We managed to organize one closet. The church is in desperate need of funds so we are putting aside stuff that we think can be tag-saled etc. For example, there are boxes of props that (apparently) were used in various productions that took place there. We are hoping to be in touch with the original church members in order to shed light on these productions and to identify people that are in the many BOXES of unlabeled pix. thanks for the info and the interest. judi clinton, CT PS Wouldn' t it be great to find out where the safe went?

Listers, I'm stumpted again. I received a reply from the library in LaCrosse, WI on the search for the naturalization papers on Henry and Marii Pravecek. They don't have any record and said they kept poor records in those days, but they were probably naturalized. Where would I go now to find these records? Any ideas? This was about 1892. Thank you for all your help. Janice in AZ

I just thought that those on the list who are interested in Vincent Pisek would be interested in the following information: I found him in the 1910 census living at 339 E. 74th St. There is a notation next to his address which might mean he was living in a basement apartment. In 1910 he was single, age 51. He arrived in US in 1870 and is listed as a clergyman and pastor. Living at that address was the Joseph Stier family with wife, Mary and children Annie, Joseph, Jr., Rudolph and Caroline. Also another woman named Mary Dvorak. Just a little piece of Czech history. Susan

Judy - How sad that we (all of us) don't ask questions until there is no one around who can answer them. To have all that information and no idea of what it really is must be extremely frustrating. I have about a dozen pictures which are "my mystery". Have you considered contacting other organizations (Czech) in that area for any suggestions or information. My first thought was the Sokol which is located at 420-424 E. 71st St. It was a center for Czech cultural and life in the early 1900's and earlier - you probably know that already. Some people to contact there would be Beatrice Cihak or Ed Chlanda. Here is a phone number that appeared on one of Sokol letter heads I received: 212-861-8206 Some time in 2002 they were fortunate enough to have a graduate from the School of Arts at Charles University and a recipient of an award from the Czech Archives Society. His name is Jiri Vichta and is an employee of the State Regional Archives in Praha. He spent three months at the Sokol helping them. I just thought they might have some suggestions for you. The Library Committe of the Sokol meets most Wednesday evenings at 7 P.M. except July and August. I have not been able to visit -- I really wish I lived close enough to be able to drop in and visit -- even volunteer. Good luck with your project. How are you managing to volunteer? Do you make visits to the city and stay there or with friends. Just trying to figure out a way to get involved myself. Take care. Susan

I found this page http://www.czech-tv.cz/specialy/zelary/ written in Czech but there is also link to English presskit. All the best, Martin Pytr, CZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carrie Taylor" <carrot@penn.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Czech resistance in WWII-movie this summer?? > I thought maybe someone on the list would be interested in this besides me. > I just read in my Sunday Paper that there is a movie called "Zelary", a > Czech tale, about a nurse caught up in the resistance during World War II > coming out this summer. Has anyone else heard about this? It was an > academy award nominee for foreign-language film. Carrie Taylor > > ______________________________

Units of area, volume, length and currency in the Czech lands were different, not only in various time periods, but even in the various regions. Example: 1 guilder = 30 kreutzer (Bohemia) 1 guilder = 33 kreutzer (Silesia) Conventional currency (1750-1857) 1 Tolar (Thaler) = 2 guilders 1 Tolar (Thaler) = 20 grosch 1 Tolar (Thaler) = 60 kreutzer Austrian currency (1857-1892) 100 Conv. guilders = 105 Austrian guilders Crown currency (1892 -1918) 1 Austrian guilder = 2 crowns ----------- I think that in 1803 the "K" could be kreutzer but I read Kreutzer mostly abbreviated as "xr" and never as "K". Could you scan the text and send it to me? Nevertheless 1 guilder=30 kreutzer in this time. Martin Pytr, CZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean horl" <jean@minesurfer.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 1:02 AM Subject: Bohemian money > Hi List: I just received this from a researcher in Pilzen; cam anyone tell me how much a golden was and how much kretzer were worth in 1803? It would seem that my gggrandfather had a dowry of 100 goldens and 1 Kow *cow(? and his wife had a dowry of 80 goldens and 1 Kow > Thank you > Jean Horl > > ______________________________

This is a forwarded message. Please reply directly to Laurie Maestas annmaly@aol.com. She is not a subscriber to the mailing list. ****************** From: annmaly@aol.com <annmaly@aol.com> Subject: CZECH Surname Query Entry ===8<==============Original message text=============== laurie maestas, < annmaly@aol.com > has sent the following query to the CZECH Mail List: Query= MALY and REZAC I have reviewed the Baca books and they are not listed in them. I believe they came over in the 1880&#39;s: but not knowing which ship or port they came thru I don&#39;t know how to continue the next step. If they came over in that time frame would they be listed as czech heritage on the records? What country was Moravia at that time frame? thanks Laurie . ===8<===========End of original message text===========

I have been privileged to help catalog and organize photos and papers that are literally stuffed into closets and drawers. There are unamed pix of people , seemingly, at shows, plays and concerts at the church. Anyone have any idea what these are about? Supposedly the safe with all the documents of genealogical importance were stolen in the 70's. We hope that it isn't true and will keep looking. Vincent Pisek, the pastor, certainly did a lot of traveling based on his pix. Anyone know about these ventures? judi Clinton, CT

Thanks for the information on the website. I had two sets of grandparents who lived on Allport Street from about 1880 to 1902. My Kostohryz grandparents lived on the corner of 21st and Allport St. and my Zitnik grandparents lived right across the street from St. Procopius on Allport St between 16th and 17th Sts. rm62759@alltel.net wrote: > Just recently I found out that my grandmother's Saganek family lived in Chicago near Saint Procopius Catholic Church at 18th and Allport Street. A search for information about the area turned up an interesting site maintained by the Mennonite Church at: > > http://www.geocities.com/jonathanandreas/hist_pilsen.html > > http://www.geocities.com/jonathanandreas/index.html > > http://www.mennonitevs.org/ > > The area became known as "Pilsen" and has a lot of Czech History associated with it. > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without > permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use > Policy at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html.

Just recently I found out that my grandmother's Saganek family lived in Chicago near Saint Procopius Catholic Church at 18th and Allport Street. A search for information about the area turned up an interesting site maintained by the Mennonite Church at: http://www.geocities.com/jonathanandreas/hist_pilsen.html http://www.geocities.com/jonathanandreas/index.html http://www.mennonitevs.org/ The area became known as "Pilsen" and has a lot of Czech History associated with it.

The following names have been posted to the CZECH Mail List: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/czsurname.htm CERNIN CROMWELL DESORT DESSORT DEZORT DUDA DVORAK FENCIL FENCL FRNOCH GIBBONS GREGOR HERINK HERRINK HERYNK HRDINA JANSKI JANSKY JESLINEK KAPOUN KLEICH KOSTKUBOVA KOVARIK KUCERA LANG MUDROCH NAHLIK NOVOTNY PFEIFER PRAVECEK REZEK SERY SKALA SLADKY SLOUP SOUKUP STANGLER STEPAN SVOLBA VASIK VIDUNA WEBER WEBER YANSKY YONSKI YONSKIE YONSKY ZELENKA ZELINKA

I am still trying to find out who is publishing the village books that Jitka(judy) is talking about.We talked to the mayor for Petrovice and Ujezd. He had not heard of this. My czech cousin talked to him personally. Are they only for this conference? Please help. Thank You Shirley Kralovetz

I should add to my message below that one can still browse the surname database, registration is not required for viewing. I might also mention that cookies are not all evil, that I personally do permit some websites to place them on my computer, that some sites won't work without them (Ancestry, New York Times, my bank come to mind) and that what may be true today on any site may not be true tomorrow. Tracking has some legitimate reasons and is not all bad. I love Google and use many of its options. I do allow it to track my surfing habits, it is a small payback for what it gives me free. Google was very up front about tracking. We might all be happier if all sites were as open about it as they. Elaine > I have been to the site, did register awhile back when this > site first was discussed on list (see archives). I went > again today because of expressed concerns, want to reassure > everyone there are *no* popups, there were *no* cookies laid > into my computer, and so far as I can tell they simply are > requiring registration to prevent incorrect surname > submissions. We are doing the same for our Czech surnames > listing at the Czech Mail List website. > Elaine

I have been to the site, did register awhile back when this site first was discussed on list (see archives). I went again today because of expressed concerns, want to reassure everyone there are *no* popups, there were *no* cookies laid into my computer, and so far as I can tell they simply are requiring registration to prevent incorrect surname submissions. We are doing the same for our Czech surnames listing at the Czech Mail List website. Elaine > I have not been to Rodclan's website yet, but wanted to comment that > any site that makes you accept cookies, popups, etc in order to visit > and enter their website, it becomes a "reject" on my part and I move > on. If it's a major commercial site, which I rarely go to unless > with a definite purpose, I'll note the cookie name and then soon as > I'm though, will delete them from my "cookie and tracking histories" > (there's usually more that one if you use IE) > I enjoy computers and researching through the internet, but there are > just to many people lately that are determined to ruin this enjoyment > for others, so I've developed a "hard line" on "security tactics and > advertising", too. Exception is my subscribed sites. > I will try RodClan this evening and if he has that "security" > mentioned on his site - I won't be able to view the names submitted. > Lynn

Either I was not clear or misunderstood. The "security" issues I raised have nothing to do with the subject (Rodclan) web site. They have to do with each persons personal computer and how it is set up for navigating around the Internet. Usually, one cannot visit a website without getting a "cookie". If you look in your "cookie" file, you will find one there after visiting most websites. For example, I just "visited" the CZECH Mail List web site home page and these are the "cookies" that were placed on my machine (after removing all cookies!). Site Cookie Name ancestry.com RMID ancestry.com _3howards_ zedo.com ZEDOIDX zedo.com FFcat zedo.com FFad zedo.com 305,109,15 zedo.com ZEDOIDA zedo.com geo As one "navigates" around the site, the cookies will change or more willl be added. The only way to avoid it is to disconnect your computer from cyberspace. Again, it is how each computer is set up that determines what is put on that computer. If the site doesn't like your settings, it will tell you to change them, or else you will not get full functionality; ie, access to the site.. Sorry about the misinformation. Ron Mlejnek > > From: List Administration <chook@starpower.net> > Date: 2004/05/05 Wed AM 11:49:43 CDT > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CZ] Registration at Rodclan website > > I have been to the site, did register awhile back when this > site first was discussed on list (see archives). I went > again today because of expressed concerns, want to reassure > everyone there are *no* popups, there were *no* cookies laid > into my computer, and so far as I can tell they simply are > requiring registration to prevent incorrect surname > submissions. We are doing the same for our Czech surnames > listing at the Czech Mail List website. > > Elaine > > > I have not been to Rodclan's website yet, but wanted to comment that > > any site that makes you accept cookies, popups, etc in order to visit > > and enter their website, it becomes a "reject" on my part and I move > > on. If it's a major commercial site, which I rarely go to unless > > with a definite purpose, I'll note the cookie name and then soon as > > I'm though, will delete them from my "cookie and tracking histories" > > (there's usually more that one if you use IE) > > > I enjoy computers and researching through the internet, but there are > > just to many people lately that are determined to ruin this enjoyment > > for others, so I've developed a "hard line" on "security tactics and > > advertising", too. Exception is my subscribed sites. > > > I will try RodClan this evening and if he has that "security" > > mentioned on his site - I won't be able to view the names submitted. > > > Lynn > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: > CZECH-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple messages) > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe > >

I have not been to Rodclan's website yet, but wanted to comment that any site that makes you accept cookies, popups, etc in order to visit and enter their website, it becomes a "reject" on my part and I move on. If it's a major commercial site, which I rarely go to unless with a definite purpose, I'll note the cookie name and then soon as I'm though, will delete them from my "cookie and tracking histories" (there's usually more that one if you use IE) I enjoy computers and researching through the internet, but there are just to many people lately that are determined to ruin this enjoyment for others, so I've developed a "hard line" on "security tactics and advertising", too. Exception is my subscribed sites. I will try RodClan this evening and if he has that "security" mentioned on his site - I won't be able to view the names submitted. Lynn > I do not know specifically what might be wrong because I do not use > Rodclan website. However, it is becoming increasingly more difficult to > do things because of security concerns. > > Generally, remote websites, at a minimum, will put a "cookie' on your > machine. That way when you visit again, they can "track" your > activity. Some sites require "popups" to be enabled. Some sites might > be blocked by your own firewall (if you have one enabled under XP) or > antivirus software. > > To check these out, use a different browser, if you have one. I have 3 > versions of Netscape, and one version of Opera and Internet Explorer. > Usually the remote site will tell you to switch security settings or > browsers (Internet Explorer is the default), but a novice website may > not even know their own settings because they are on a "free" server > with tons of ads. > > Just in case. > > Ron Mlejnek > > At 12:50 PM 05/04/2004, you wrote: > >> I seem to be having problems registering in this website. I tried >> yesterday >> and today. I haven't received any email with my password and today I >> got a >> different message than yesterday. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. >> >> Janice in AZ >> >> >> >> ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >> No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, >> chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring >> and/or lose subscription privileges. > > > ______________________________ -- Visit my genealogy website: http://webs.lanset.com/lingbro Researching surnames BOCHNICEK, BROD, BROZ, DVORAK, GRAHAM, HRASKY, ONTL, PETRAN, PAZDERA, SMRCKA, STEUERNAGEL, TOUPAL, VANICEK, VOKRACKA and more "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS"

I know from another subscriber who wrote behind the list that following Honza's instructions allowed her to list her names at the Rod and Clan website. My surnames also are there and I did use Honza's instructions to register. I can only recommend reading his post and using that as a primer when at the website. Elaine >>I seem to be having problems registering in this website. I tried yesterday >>and today. I haven't received any email with my password and today I got a >>different message than yesterday. What am I doing wrong? Thank you. >> >>Janice in AZ >>

This is a forwarded message From: judi <marshaja@comcast.net> To: <BOHEMIA-L@rootsweb.com>, <NYC-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com>, <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 10:26:56 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Jan Hus Presbyterian Church 351 E 74th St NY,NY 10021 ===8<==============Original message text=============== Jan Hus Presbyterian Church was the place of worship for many of our forfathers. Many of us were baptized and married there, It was founded in 1874 to serve the Czech community. The Church is in urgent need to refurbishment. There are restorative and refurbishment needs, as well as maintenance issues. A campaign is currently underway to raise funds so that the Church will continue to be a place of worship and home to many programs aimed at serving the entire community. The goals of the campaign include raising $100, 000 over the next 3 years in order to qualify for a $25,000 matching grant from the Presbytery. Funds will be used to refurbish the Sanctuary and Community Center and to continue to build our community through process. Please consider this pledge or volunteer your time to assist in repairs and remodeling projects. Join us in writing the next chapter in the life of Jan Hus Church. Your prayerful consideration of our campaign is greatly appreciated. Join us at Sunday morning worship services at 11:00am Judi Clinton, CT ===8<===========End of original message text===========

Dear Maggie, generally none problem. I have time. I think it is not easy with an little grandson. Here in Germany is the complete state budget an disaster and all must be happy, when they have still work. Get well soon and best wishes Lars ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Smith" <mrsces@charter.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 5:31 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: Baca Lookups, please--Baltimore > Hi Lars, > I haven't forgotten you - I get very bad migraine headaches and I've been > having them again. I will type up all the information that I have found > during this week for you. I also have my little 8 year old grandson that > lives with us and he keeps me very busy evenings and weekends - and I work > fulltime for the California Department of Corrections (I do budget work for > the prisons) and right now, the CA State Budget is a disaster! > > But I will get this information to you shortly. Hang in there. Maggie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <HANUSH@gmx.de> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:24 PM > Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: Baca Lookups, please--Baltimore > > > > Hi Maggie, > > > > Sorry I will it somethink detailed explain. > > I have no Baca Books, The only what I have is the Passenger > > and Immigration List Index CD 354. But in this example was > > only 2 Mikita listed there, 1899 in Manitoba. So this CD is not > > always helpful. > > I, for example search for a long time an ancestor from me, > > Albrecht Vladimir Hanus(sch,sh), who emigrated 1900-1902, > > maybe from Chotebor Bohemia. He wrote 1909, he was the > > 8. year in America. I did also not know his birthdate/place, > > because his father was by the railroad and "served" in a lot > > of towns and all his children are born scatters. Despite much > > help from friendly people at the Czech, Bohemia, Cook, AZ- > > lists and other, we could't find him in any Passengerlists, Cenus, > > City directories etc. etc. I'm sure his name must be is very > > misspelled, that we could't find him. After long search, we found > > he was born 6. Feb 1887. So I knew now he was 13-15 years > > old as he emigrated. So I had the hope, with this date I can find > > him. But now luck. I have not Ancestry or other subscription and > > it is not easy to search from here. I have the fortune, that I can > > drive to the Czech archive, when it is possible, but of the other > > side, I can't go to the library or can loan all passenger films etc. > > when I search record from Amerika. > > So I have searched in the Internet an library in the US, where > > I have maybe at least free access to AncestryPlus and Heritage- > > Quest. I found after long search an library, where I need not > > an library card and could look from home, through subscription > > from this library by this two. As I saw by my search, by the way > > this request from Joe and Jan, I have looked also right away for > > this names, if I can maybe help. > > This source for example was: New York City Immigrants (Austria, > > Galizia, Poland) 1890. NY arrivals Jan-Dec 1890. > > > > I will hope, I have responds your query. > > The spellings from the names will be always an problem. > > When I can something do for you please write me, but you know > > my source and sorry I have not more. > > Sorry Maggie, that I have by this occasion refreshed my problem > > and request to the list. > > > > Best wishes > > Lars > > Germany > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Charles Smith" <mrsces@charter.net> > > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:48 AM > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: Baca Lookups, please--Baltimore > > > > > > > Hi Lars, > > > Would you please tell me which volume and page you found Mikita Janos - > I > > > just rechecked all nine volumes and I can not find it. Thank you. I > > really > > > try to be as careful as I can because I know how frustrating it is > trying > > to > > > find any information on our lines. Since I don't speak the language, > I'm > > > never sure what names to pick up that look similar but spelled > > differently. > > > thank you, Maggie Smith > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <HANUSH@gmx.de> > > > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: Baca Lookups, please--Baltimore > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > I saw an Mikita Janos, but NY, Ship Werra, > > > > 10. Jun 1890. > > > > > > > > good luck > > > > Lars > > > > Germany > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Charles Smith" <mrsces@charter.net> > > > > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:31 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Re: Baca Lookups, please--Baltimore > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > I looked in all 9 volumes - nothing for Mikita or Logeman or > anything > > > > close > > > > > to it. > > > > > > > > > > Vol 1 New Orleans, Page 124: > > > > > Pecenka, Johann 43, Anna 45, Anna 14, Veronica 9, Rosina 7, Johann > 4, > > > > > Germany; STRASSBURG, 12 Dec 1873. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > Czech-L's webpage is at > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm >