Vaclav may not equate to James, however, the change was made for one reason or another and all my Vaclav's became James by their own hand. Researching church records displays many name changes that were made -- perhaps thru the church encouragement? We do not know. The first time I saw a direct proven relationship to "Vaclav" and "James" was in a church record which had written the names of the parents (Father: Vaclav) and above "Vaclav" was written "James." It seems that in Chicago, Vaclav became James. Joan Smart Peterson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mlejnek" <rvmlejnek@navix.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] "W" > This might be one of those "urban legends", but I remember corresponding > with a instructor in Slavic Languages many years ago who told me that "old" > Czech (perhaps old Slavic) did have a "W" and it was the same as a > "V". The modern Czech language does not use the "W", but it is still > carried on in many names. For example, look at any list of surnames in the > Czech Republic and one will see the "W" used a lot and interchangeably with > "V". > > Part of my Czech family came from Moravia near the Slovak border and the > incidence of names beginning with a "W" is much greater in that region than > around Prague. > > As for Wenzel and Vaclav, I think Wenzel is German and Vaclav is uniquely > Czech. Wenceslas is English for Wensel/Wenzel and there is no English > equivalent for Vaclav. > > And no, James does not equal Vaclav! > > For a better understanding: > > http://www.lmp.ucla.edu./profiles/profc02.htm > > Ron Mlejnek > > At 07:05 PM 05/19/2004, you wrote: > > > > Someone recently mentioned that there is not a "W" in the Czech > >language. Where did the name Wenzel originate? > > > >Nancy > > > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > >The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are > >making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the > >list address and add the individual's address. > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, > chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring > and/or lose subscription privileges. > >

It translates to James in alot of places. I think its' possible my dad's brother was named after his grandpa..... ----- Original Message ----- From: Stefanie To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 7:30 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] "W" Vaclav Does this name Vaclav translate to something in English? Stefanie ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04

Does this name Vaclav translate to something in English? Stefanie

what I'm thinking on this, is that Wenzel was maybe changed to that in America as a Germanic name, instead of the old Vaclav which they had in BOhemia/Czechoslovakia......I'd say depending of course on what kind of church you attended in America, German, or......whatever ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph O. Pecenka To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:16 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] "W" Hey, Ron! "Genealogical Research for Czech and Slovak Americans" by Olga K. Miller (former Research Consultant, LDS Genealogical Library, Salt Lake City, Utah) lists "Names" beginning on page 86. It has five parallel columns for Czech, Slovak, Latin, German and English. In the "V--male" section it lists in appropriate columns the following: Vaclav Vaclav Blank Wenceslaus Wenceslaus So the English version of Vaclav is Wenceslaus (NOT JAMES, AMEN!). I agree that old Czech did contain a W, which was pronounced as a V, and subsequently changed to a V. The current Czech alphabet does not contain a W. I have never heard of a Czech name Wenzel, either with a V or W. As you note, it is probably German. There is probably a source somewhere that would give its English equivalent, and maybe Czech. If we have German readers out there maybe one of them might please respond out of their Germanic background. Joe ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring and/or lose subscription privileges. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04

According to my father (100% Czech), his parents taught him the Czech alphabet, which has 35 letters but no W. The letter V was substituted for W -- which explains why our family name was for many years pronounced and spelled "Valla" instead of "Walla." His parents emigrated to America from villages in Hungary, parts of which (after 1920) came to be known as Czecholslovakia. Thank you very much, Cathy in Tampa Ongoing Surname Searches as of 1/2004 A U S T I N / D R I S C O L L / F U L L E R / HRADEL K O Z I S K I / K U P E C Z M C L E N D O N / M U R P H Y / N A G L E / R U P P E R T / R Y A N S T E P H E N S / W I L L I A M S / W A L L A

Hey, Ron! "Genealogical Research for Czech and Slovak Americans" by Olga K. Miller (former Research Consultant, LDS Genealogical Library, Salt Lake City, Utah) lists "Names" beginning on page 86. It has five parallel columns for Czech, Slovak, Latin, German and English. In the "V--male" section it lists in appropriate columns the following: Vaclav Vaclav Blank Wenceslaus Wenceslaus So the English version of Vaclav is Wenceslaus (NOT JAMES, AMEN!). I agree that old Czech did contain a W, which was pronounced as a V, and subsequently changed to a V. The current Czech alphabet does not contain a W. I have never heard of a Czech name Wenzel, either with a V or W. As you note, it is probably German. There is probably a source somewhere that would give its English equivalent, and maybe Czech. If we have German readers out there maybe one of them might please respond out of their Germanic background. Joe

This might be one of those "urban legends", but I remember corresponding with a instructor in Slavic Languages many years ago who told me that "old" Czech (perhaps old Slavic) did have a "W" and it was the same as a "V". The modern Czech language does not use the "W", but it is still carried on in many names. For example, look at any list of surnames in the Czech Republic and one will see the "W" used a lot and interchangeably with "V". Part of my Czech family came from Moravia near the Slovak border and the incidence of names beginning with a "W" is much greater in that region than around Prague. As for Wenzel and Vaclav, I think Wenzel is German and Vaclav is uniquely Czech. Wenceslas is English for Wensel/Wenzel and there is no English equivalent for Vaclav. And no, James does not equal Vaclav! For a better understanding: http://www.lmp.ucla.edu./profiles/profc02.htm Ron Mlejnek At 07:05 PM 05/19/2004, you wrote: > Someone recently mentioned that there is not a "W" in the Czech >language. Where did the name Wenzel originate? > >Nancy > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are >making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the >list address and add the individual's address.

John, Rootsweb does not use "nomail". You will either have to unsubscribe from list (individual) and perhaps consider subscribing to digest, or you will have to simply unsubscribe and then subscribe when you wish mail to begin again. You could check the archives for activity while you are absent since all list mail is available there. To check on your list subscriptions at Rootsweb, see http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ Elaine Do I even WANT ancestors? Hello john.dvorak On Wednesday, May 19, 2004, you wrote > Wondering how to go to NO MAIL .....i'm going to be AFK for 6 weeks after > July 8 and I need to get out of my groups during that time > I'll return once i get back > John Dvorak

that originated from VACLAV........that's my great grandpappy's name! :) Vaclav Dvorak. pronounced D vor zhak like the famous (or not) Bohemian Composer, Antonin Dvorak ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Kubik To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:05 PM Subject: [CZ] "W" Someone recently mentioned that there is not a "W" in the Czech language. Where did the name Wenzel originate? Nancy ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and add the individual's address. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.688 / Virus Database: 449 - Release Date: 5/18/04

Wednesday, May 19, 2004, 8:06:24 PM, you wrote: jd> Wondering how to go to NO MAIL .....i'm going to be AFK for 6 weeks after jd> July 8 and I need to get out of my groups during that time jd> I'll return once i get back jd> John Dvorak Just unsubscribe and then re-subscribe when you get back. Researching: APPEL, BOROWSKI, CERNOHORSKY, DEMBOWCZYK, HAAS, JUBB, PIETROWIAK, ZARAS

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Someone recently mentioned that there is not a "W" in the Czech language. Where did the name Wenzel originate? Nancy

Bernard, Apparently there is only one place named WILKOWITZ and this is it's location: WILKOWITZ (VLKOVICE) Czech Republic 76.7 miles W of Prague Unfortunately there are many places that "sound like" WILKOWITZ. The above was located using the tool callled ShtetlSeeker - Town Search. You can find a link to it on the following page under " On-Line Research Tools": http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/czgenealogy.htm Another very useful tool is the searchable data base provided by Ing. Felix Gundacker at <http://www.ihff.at/>IHFF. A link is provided at the same as above. Your ancestors were not confused; it is a matter of knowing the place they lived (Moravia), the language they spoke (German) and the country of allegiance (Austria). The above identified WILKOWITZ is not in Moravia, but rather Bohemia. Either "Moravia" is in error or these people came from 2 different places. Ron Mlejnek At 09:17 PM 05/18/2004, you wrote:. >Bernard Gaas, < bgaas@ cox-internet.com > has sent the following query to >the CZECH Mail List: > >Query= My Ggrandparents, George and Agnes Gas Immigrated through the >Port of New Orleans, and then on to Washington co. Texas, in December 27.1873 >They were Czech, spoke German also, On their ship passenger list, they >say: Nationality= German, country of Origin, Moravia, sometimes >Austra. Never village of origin. >24 years later, a Brother of George, andrew, now spelled Gass, shows up >through the Port of Galveston, in 1897. Somehow , he slipped up royally, >and listed his village of Origin as WILKOWITZE. Also said his >nationality was German but only spoke Czech. 1862-1933. Said his country >of Origin was Austria, and other places it says Bohemia. >This Village of Origin, Wilkowitze apparently is called something else, >I wonder if any of you might have anyplace to look to see if this village >is still a good name or to what was it changed and in what country it is >in. I am thinking that the first of the two brothers may have come >from this village also and that would be a good place to >start researching this family. Any help would be really appreciated, >Sincerely, >Bernard Gaas >bgaas@cox-internet.com >Victoria, Texas >.

John recommended the following book on May 10th: The book "American Naturalization Records 1790-1990: What They Are and How to Use Them" by John J. Newman might be useful. ISBN:1-877677-91-4. LOC 98-71939. Copyright 1985, 1998, second edition by Heritage Quest. It is a paperback, 127 pages with lots of illustrations of forms, end notes, bibliographical info, etc that is useful to the researcher. There is an appendix that lists categories of records with time periods for changes in requirements. If your library doesn't have it, maybe they can get it via ILL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Based on further reading the book recommended by John appears to be the best source of comprehensive information available. The bottom line is that one needs to go to the jurisdiction that had control of the records at the time your ancestor lived there. According to NARA, most jurisdictions today do not have anyone qualified on their staff to answer your questions. It is recommended that one keep asking until they locate someone who has specific knowledge where someone who lived in that jurisdiction would have registered as a resident alien. Until one gets a definitive answer, the record will never be located. Below are excerpts from the listed citations: Ordering information for immigration records (ship passenger lists and border crossings) (NATF 81) http://www.archives.gov/global_pages/inquire_form.html To order Naturalization Records (Form G-639): http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/g-639.htm -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------From NARA page ?Naturalization Records? http://www.archives.gov/research_room/genealogy/research_topics/naturalization_records.html The Courts From the first naturalization law passed by Congress in 1790 through much of the 20th century, an alien could become naturalized in any court of record. Thus, most people went to the court most convenient to them, usually a county court. The names and types of courts vary from State to State. The names and types of courts have also varied during different periods of history--but may include the county supreme, circuit, district, equity, chancery, probate, or common pleas court. Most researchers will find that their ancestors became naturalized in one of these courts. A few State supreme courts also naturalized aliens, such as the supreme courts of Indiana, Idaho, Iowa, Maine, New Jersey, and South Dakota. Aliens who lived in large cities sometimes became naturalized in a Federal court, such as a U.S. district court or U.S. circuit court. General Rule: The Two-Step Process Congress passed the first law regulating naturalization in 1790. As a general rule, naturalization was a two-step process that took a minimum of 5 years. After residing in the United States for 2 years, an alien could file a "declaration of intent" (so-called "first papers") to become a citizen. After 3 additional years, the alien could "petition for naturalization." After the petition was granted, a certificate of citizenship was issued to the alien. These two steps did not have to take place in the same court. As a general rule, the "declaration of intent" generally contains more genealogically useful information than the "petition." The "declaration" may include the alien's month and year (or possibly the exact date) of immigration into the United States. The Records It is impossible to provide hard-and-fast rules about the content or even the existence of naturalization records. The 1905 Report to the President of the Commission on Naturalization remarked: The methods of making and keeping the naturalization records in both the Federal and State courts are as various as the procedure in such cases. Thus the declaration of intention in some courts consists merely of the bare statement of the intention and the name and allegiance of the alien, while in other courts it also includes a history of the alien.... In a majority of courts alien applicants are not required to make the declaration of intention required by law ... and in other courts he is. Previous to 1903 a majority of courts did not require petitions or affidavits; other courts did. Some courts keep a naturalization record separate from the other records; other courts include the naturalization record in the regular minutes of the court. Some records contain full histories of the aliens, but a majority of the records show only the name, nationality, oath of allegiance, and date of admission. In 1903 a Justice Department investigator made even more condemnatory comments: I find the naturalization records in many cases in a chaotic condition, many lost and destroyed, and some sold for old paper. Most the records consist of merely the name and nativity of the alien with no means of identifying aliens of the same name....In numerous cases I find aliens naturalized under initials instead of Christian names, surnames misspelled or changed entirely, and names of witnesses inserted in place of the alien naturalized....The examination of the records discloses the remarkable fact that never, since the first enactment of the naturalization laws, has any record been made in any court of the names of minor children who, under the operation of the statutes, were made citizens by the naturalization of their parents. The Location of these Records County Court Records Naturalization records from county courts may still be at the county court, in a county or State archives, or at a regional archives serving several counties within a State. Some of these records or indexes have been published, such as the Index of Naturalizations, Ashtabula County, Ohio, 1875-1906, published by the Ashtabula County Genealogical Society. Do not be surprised if county court employees tell you that their naturalization records are at "the National Archives" or that their court never conducted naturalizations. Most current court employees are probably not genealogists and may not be familiar with the court's older records. It is up to the researcher to determine the location of older court records. County Court Records in the National Archives As a general rule, the National Archives does not have naturalization records created in State or local courts. However, some county court naturalization records have been donated to the National Archives and are available as National Archives microfilm publications. (See List this Source) Federal Court Records If the naturalization took place in a Federal court, naturalization indexes, declarations of intent, and petitions will usually be in the NARA regional facility serving the State in which the Federal court is located. Some of these indexes and records have been microfilmed. End of Source ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ?Naturalization Records? by William Dollarhide http://www.genealogybulletin.com/archives/HTML/current21.html The first naturalization act, passed in 1790, provided that an alien who desired to become a citizen of the United States should apply to ?any common law court of record, in any one of the states wherein he shall have resided for the period of one year at least.? Under this and later laws, aliens were naturalized in federal, state, county, or municipal courts. Records of aliens naturalized by way of local or state courts may still be located at the courthouse of that jurisdiction, or may have been removed for safe keeping to a state archives. Records of those aliens naturalized by way of the District Courts of the United States are located today in the District Court covering all or part of a particular state, or the National Archives branch facility covering that state?s federal court records. The process of naturalization involved several steps, for which multiple documents with genealogical information may exist along the way: Declarations of Intention are documents by which applicants for U.S. citizenship renounced allegiance to foreign sovereignties and declared their intention to become a U.S. citizen. As the first step in the naturalization process, they were often called ?First Papers.? Early declarations of intention usually show for each applicant, a full name, country of birth or allegiance, date of the application, and a signature. Some will show a date and port of arrival in the United States. After 1906, a longer and more detailed form was used, including such information as the applicant?s name, age, occupation, and personal description; date and place of birth; citizenship; present address and last foreign address; vessel and port of embarkation for the United States; U.S. port and date of arrival in the United States; and date of application and signature. Naturalization Petitions are documents by which those who had declared their intention to become a U.S. citizen made formal application for citizenship, after meeting the residency requirements. Information on these documents includes a full name, residence, occupation, date and place of birth, citizenship, and personal description of applicant (many 20th century documents include a photograph); date of immigration; port of embarkation and arrival; marital status; names, dates, and places of birth for the applicant?s children; date at which U.S. residence commenced; time of residence in state; name changes; and a signature. Naturalization Depositions are formal statements in support of an applicant?s petition by witnesses designated by the applicant. The records indicate the period of the applicant?s residence in a certain locale and other information, including witnesses? appraisals of the applicant?s character. Certificates of Naturalization and Oaths of Allegiance document the granting of U.S. citizenship to petitioners. The early orders of admission to citizenship are often available only in the minute books of the court where the final naturalization certificate was issued. The minute books are organized in chronological order, but have an index to the names. In some case, all records for one person undergoing the naturalization process have been gathered together in a petition record folder, which usually includes the petition for naturalization, affidavits of the petitioner and witnesses, the oath of allegiance, and the order of the court admitting the petitioner to citizenship. The Certificate of Naturalization was given to the new citizen but no copy of the certificate was kept by the court that issued it. Only a minute book record or a copy of the court order, and possibly the Oath of Allegiance was recorded and kept at local courthouse. From 1906 forward, copies of all naturalization documents generated at the local courts were sent to the Immigration and Naturalization Service in Washington, DC, where copies of all First Papers, Petitions, Depositions, Oaths of Allegiance, and Certificates of Naturalization can be found today. As an example of naturalization records initiated at the Federal District Court for the Southern District of Alabama (Mobile), the early records are now at the National Archives and Records Administration ? Southeast Region, located in East Point, a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia. Records include petition and record documents, 1906-1929, and declarations of intention, 1855-1929. They are all indexed by the name of the petitioner. Naturalization Records Since 1906 The Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) has copies of all naturalization records (certificates, declarations of intentions, and petitions), since September 27, 1906. They are completely indexed. A request for information from a naturalization file must be done on Form G-639. A copy of that form can be downloaded from the INS web site at www.ins.usdoj.gov/exec/forms/formsbymail.asp Naturalization Information Found in Other Federal Records Other federal records that provide naturalization information are passport applications, among the General Records of the Department of State, Record Group 59, and homestead applications , in the Records of the Bureau of Land Management, Record Group 49. If a naturalized citizen applied for a passport before 1906, records of his naturalization are usually in the passport application file. In some cases, a copy of a Certificate of Naturalization can be found in an applicant?s file. Foreign born homestead applicants had to present evidence of citizenship or that they had declared their intention to become a citizenship to qualify for homestead land. As a result, naturalization declarations or certificates are often found in the case files of homestead land entries. Naturalization Records Not in the National Archives To obtain information about naturalization records that are not in the custody of the National Archives, a genealogist should write to the appropriate court official, usually the clerk of the court that issued the certificate of naturalization. If the petitioner were naturalized after September 27, 1906, federal law required that copies of the naturalization documents from any court must be sent to the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) (formerly the Bureau of Immigration). Therefore, after 1906, there may be two sets of records, one set at the local courthouse, another at the INS. Further Reading: American Naturalization Records: 1790-1990 by archivist and genealogist, John J. Newman End of Source ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi List I sent a BCC to Bernard Hi Bernard ! I wouild 1st subscribe to the czech list, you will find some knowledgeable and helpful people there. Ther is no W in the Czech language, this is obviously, I think, an English translation to the Czech name, OR it could be of the German name. Some folks on the Czech list may be able to give a better translation than me So I am estimating and see it MAYBE as ... Vilkovice , I dont see it in my book of villages or my maps There is a VLACHOVICE~ VRBETICE in the Zlin distric, this would be eastern Moravia, which is East of Bohemia. In my Train map and booklet that lists villages there are : VLKOVEC ( train rte 222 ) and SE of Prague and NE of Benesov. Benesov is S of Prague VLKOVICE ( train Rte 149 ) is very close and SE of Marianske Lazne, ( Western Bohemia ) Marainske Lazne is S of Karlovy V\ary You could also try variations of spelling and go to www.jewishgen.org/shtetlseeker to look for your villages. Regards, Mike in AZ SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / KREISSINGER / CERMAK

Can anyone tell me if Czech maps have states or counties or districts - there are so many villages with the same names and if you don't know the area, you don't know which one you are looking for. Thanks, Virginia

Joana, This might be a "stretch" but what about the possibility that the village you are searching for is actually located in Germany near the border with Bohemia? There are five places listed as Svata Katerina in the Czech Republic, but there is one SW of Plzen right on the border of Germany. According to Mapy and MapQuest: Svatá Katerina Cást obce Klatovy Chudenín sits on the border with Germany between the border and Klatovy on road 191. To get to Plzen from Svatá Katerina one would go East on Road 191> Nyrsko > Klatovy >N. On Road 27 [E63] to Prestice > Plzen. On the other side of the border is a village called Unterhutte (not Unterhutten). Perhaps the parish for this German village was in the Bohemia? Svatá Katerina 4940 1235 Czech Republic 88.6 miles WSW of Prague Unterhutte 4921 1246 Germany 220.4 miles S of Berlin There is also an Unterhutten in Germany, but not near Svata Katarina. Ron Mlejnek > > From: "Joana S. Donovan" <vinced@dmv.com> > Date: 2004/05/19 Wed AM 08:35:00 CDT > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CZ] Trying to find village > > > Dear fellow listers, > I am trying to locate a village in my modern Czech Road Atlas, and am not > being successful. I know that, sometimes, a lister can tell us the > "newer/alternate" name of a village. I would greatly appreciate it if > someone would help me with this village. The info I have is:: > > Unterhutten > Kreis Bischofteinitz > Parish: Svata Katerina > Archives: Plzen > > Thank you is advance, > Joana S. Donovan > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and add the individual's address. > >

Is anyone reseaching Kunzendorf? The current Czech name is Kuncice. Is in a little valley on the south side of the Schneegebirge mountains that separate that part of the Czech Republic from Poland and Kunzendorf. It is maybe two miles south of the border. It is to the west of Spornhau about 4 miles and to the north of Altstadt about 3 miles. The church parish might be Freiwaldau or possibly Altstadt / Stare Mesto. Are there any chuch book for Kunzendorf/Kuncice? I'd appreciate any help! Thank you so very much. Linda Rawles Nevada Researching KIESEWETTER SCHUBERT

Dear fellow listers, I am trying to locate a village in my modern Czech Road Atlas, and am not being successful. I know that, sometimes, a lister can tell us the "newer/alternate" name of a village. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would help me with this village. The info I have is:: Unterhutten Kreis Bischofteinitz Parish: Svata Katerina Archives: Plzen Thank you is advance, Joana S. Donovan

Joana, At the Jewish Genealogical site is a search feature that might help you. The address is: http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/ Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joana S. Donovan" <vinced@dmv.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:35 AM Subject: [CZ] Trying to find village > > Dear fellow listers, > I am trying to locate a village in my modern Czech Road Atlas, and am not > being successful. I know that, sometimes, a lister can tell us the > "newer/alternate" name of a village. I would greatly appreciate it if > someone would help me with this village. The info I have is:: > > Unterhutten > Kreis Bischofteinitz > Parish: Svata Katerina > Archives: Plzen > > Thank you is advance, > Joana S. Donovan > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and add the individual's address. >