I agree with Susan; this is really worth the time. I spent some time going over the days that led up to the Munich Agreement (1937-1938). Kind of shocking what else was on the front page when a Nation was being dissected by Hitler's storm troopers with the consent of the France and England!! This source will be valuable to go back to see what was happening o the day my grandparents arrived in NY and the days shortly thereafter. Also, on specific birth dates. Kudos Joe, Ron Mlejnek At 07:45 PM 05/31/2004, you wrote: >Thanks Joe for the link. I didn't find any of my surnames but I did find an >article about the Sokol festival in Prague in 1907. My grandmother, Louise >Jedlicka nee Holecek participated in this slet -- it is a wonderful addition >to my family book. >I then went on to find an article about the Titanic. My mother was born >April 10, 1912 -- the day the Titantic set sail for America. Have to >admit, it took me a little while to find articles only because I had trouble >deciding what to search but it was worth the trial and error approach. >Thanks again. Susan > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively >handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal >problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an >email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate >for list discussion.

Thanks Joe for the link. I didn't find any of my surnames but I did find an article about the Sokol festival in Prague in 1907. My grandmother, Louise Jedlicka nee Holecek participated in this slet -- it is a wonderful addition to my family book. I then went on to find an article about the Titanic. My mother was born April 10, 1912 -- the day the Titantic set sail for America. Have to admit, it took me a little while to find articles only because I had trouble deciding what to search but it was worth the trial and error approach. Thanks again. Susan

A reminder about this website. I am listed here and though I haven't yet heard from a cousin I think it is worth having my surnames listed there. The most recent update to the names is below. Elaine This is a forwarded message From: Rod a Clan <redakce@rodclan.cz> To: chook@starpower.net Date: Monday, May 31, 2004, 8:27:10 PM Subject: Rod & Clan - příjmení za květen 2004 ===8<==============Original message text=============== Nová příjmení v genealogické databázi Rod & Clan přidaná v květnu 2004: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDĚL, Horní Beneš, Bruntál AUSOBSKA, Kunzˇak, Jindřichův Hradec BADOŠKA, , Opava BADURA, Vnorovy, Jiná Oblast BARTEK, , Opava BARTEK, , Opava BARTOS, Vodnany, Jiná Oblast BEMER, Rejštejn, Klatovy BENA, , Opava BENDAK, Jicin, Brandys N/l,, Jiná Oblast BENIŠEK, Buková, Olomouc BERÁNEK, Kocenice, Plzeň BÍLEK-OVÁ, Valdice, Jičín BILKA, , Jiná Oblast BLECHA, Podlesí, Lhota u Příbramě, Německá Lhota, Příbram BOBAK, , Opava BOHDALEK, Luka u Jihlavy, Jihlava BÖHM, , Opava BOHUNĚK, Sloupnice, Ústí Nad Orlicí BORDOVSKÝ, Tichá, Trojanovice, Nový Jičín BORIS, Nošovice, Slezská Ostrava, Ostrava BRODSKÝ, Roudný, Semily BUKSA, Kroměříš, Kroměříž BUMBA, Dolní Bukovsko, Klenovice, Tábor BUTIER, , Opava CEBECAUER, , Jiná Oblast CELTA, , Opava CESAR(E), Lubljana, Jiná Oblast CLEMENT, , Opava CTIBOR, Klenovice, Tábor CYMBÁL, Žernov, Semily ČERMÁK, Žernov, Semily ČERNOHORSKÝ, Otice, Opava ČERNÝ, Kornouz, Jiná Oblast ČIHÁK, Nasavrky, Ústí Nad Orlicí DESSORT/DESORT/DEZORT, Falkenau An Der Eger, Cheb DOLNÝ, Jezdkovice, Opava DOUBKOVE, , Jindřichův Hradec DOUDLEBSKÝ - STERNECK, Č. Budějovice, Znojmo, Jiná Oblast DRSATA, , Jiná Oblast ELIÁŠ, Sloupnice, Ústí Nad Orlicí ENGLBERTH, Hradec Králové, Hradec Králové ENTLER, Preskac, Znojmo FIRLEY, Jaktař, Opava FISCHER, Ústí nad Orlicí, Ústí Nad Orlicí FOJTIK, , Zlín FOJTÍK, Velké Heraltice, Opava FRANK, , Opava FRIAK, Osvětimany, Uherské Hradiště GOTTLIEBER, Morávka, Frýdek-místek HAJEK, Klenovice, Tábor HATAK, , Jiná Oblast HATOŇOVÁ, Olšany, Ruda N. 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Cermna, Pardubice KADIČ, Plzeň, Třebotovice, Hranice v Čechách, Radčice, Jiná Oblast KAVAN, Hlavnice, Opava KLEMENT, , Opava KOKRDA, Brno, Třebechovice p.O., Jiná oblast KOLANDA, Řásná, Jihlava KONÍČEK, Nymburk, Poděbrady KONVALINA, Blížkovice, Ctidružice, Znojmo KOPEČEK, , Opava KORÁL, Litvínov, Most KOSDESOVA, Ujezd, Znojmo KOSMATA, Praha, Praha KOTRLA, Nejdek, Přerov KOVÁŘ, , Opava KRIVHLOVA, , Jiná Oblast KRöMER, Jezdkovice, Hlavnice, Opava KROULÍK, Sloupnice, Ústí Nad Orlicí KRPATA, Brno, Znojmo KRUŽIK, Puklice, Jihlava KUBESA, Jarkovice, Opava KUBÍK, Nasavrky, Ústí Nad Orlicí KUČERA, , Brno KUČERÁK, Dobšiná, Slovensko KüHR, Brodek u Konic, Olomouc KUPCOVE, Velky Jenikov, Jindřichův Hradec KVIZDA, Brno, Luhačovice, Jiná Oblast LANG, Falkenau An Der Eger, Cheb LANGKRAMER, Jičín, Praha, Jičín LANICEK, Tvrdonice, Břeclav LÉSKOVEC, Pelhřimovsko, Jiná Oblast LETKO, Považská Bystrica, Slovensko LETOVSKÝ / LETTOWSKY, Jičín, Tuřany, Plumlov, Náměšť na Hané, Jičín LHOTSKÝ, Hlavnice, Opava LIMBERSKÝ, Sloupnice, Ústí Nad Orlicí LIPÁR, Velká nad Veličkou, Hodonín LORYŠ, , Frýdek-místek LUPOMECH, Bohunov, Jiná Oblast LUPOMECH, Bohunov, Jiná Oblast LUPOMECH, Bohunov, Jiná Oblast LUPOMECH, Bohunov, Jiná Oblast MACEK, , Ostrava MACEK, Náchod, Šonov, Václavice, Vrchoviny, Náchod MACHKA, , Jiná Oblast MAKOVEC, Hrobska Zahradka, Pelhřimov MATĚJKA, , Frýdek-místek MATUSINEX, , Jiná Oblast MEJTA, Trebon, Jindřichův Hradec MELICHAR, Jičín, Jičín METZ, , Frýdek-místek MICHALČÍK, Opava, Opava MIKULECKÝ, Voděrady, Ústí Nad Orlicí MIKULECKÝ, Sloupnice, Ústí Nad Orlicí MIXA, Podlesí, Příbram MOTLOVE, , Jindřichův Hradec MüLLER, , Opava MUROŇ, , Frýdek-místek NÁPLAVA, Horní Benešov, Otrokovice, Bruntál NAVARA, , Opava NECKARZE, Preskac, Znojmo NEYBURSKY OF NEYBURK, Netolice, České Budějovice NOHÁČEK, , Mladá Boleslav NOHÁČEK, , Mladá Boleslav NOHÁČEK, Hrdlořezy, Mladá Boleslav NOHÁČKOVÁ, , Mladá Boleslav NOHÁČKOVÁ, Hrdlořezy, Mladá Boleslav NOVOTNY, Velim, Kolín NOVOTNY, Drahelice, Nymburk NOVOTNÝ, Skuhrov, Jablonec Nad Nisou OTYPKA, Jarkovice, Vlaštovičky, Opava OUDRÁN, Stará Voda, Příbram PALACEK, Velka Polom, Ostrava PALÁN, Jiřín, Jihlava PANUSKA, Zivotice, Písek PAVLÁSEK, Milostovice, Opava PAVLÍČEK, Voděrady, Ústí Nad Orlicí PECHNÍK, Jaktař, Opava PETERKA, , Ústí Nad Orlicí PETRAK, Praha, Jiná Oblast PICKA, , Ostrava PLECHÁČ, Jičín, Jičín PLETICHA, Pohnani, Tábor PLISEK, Ujezd, Znojmo PLURA, Dobroslavice, Opava POLACEK, Caslav, Jiná Oblast POLACH, Popov, Zlín POPELÁŘ, Voděrady, Ústí Nad Orlicí POSPĚCH, Hlavnice, Opava POTTER, , Opava POUZAR, Nuzice, Klenovice, Tábor POVICHR, Hlavnice, Opava PRASEK, Milostovice, Jaktař, Opava PREBIL, Moravce, Jiná Oblast PROCHAZKA, Radkovice, Třebíč PROCHÁZKA, Puklice, Jihlava PROSKA, Jaktař, Opava PRůŠA, Hvožďany, Myslín, Písek PŘEVRÁTIL, Hvožďany, Písek PTÁČEK, Dobruška, Jiná Oblast PUNCOCHAR, Radkovice, Třebíč PUNCOCHAR, Lipnik, Třebíč QUIS, Jarkovice, Opava RADIMECKÝ, Sloupnice, Ústí Nad Orlicí RAMÍK, Hlavnice, Opava RAŠÍN, Poděbrady, Křečkov, Hořátev, Nymburk,Pečky, Poděbrady RICHACEK, Ujezd, Znojmo RICHTA, Jezdkovice, Opava, Opava RICHTR, Žďárek, Liberec RIPPER, Puklice, Jihlava RITICH, , Praha ROŠTEJNSKÝ, , Semily RUZICKA, Novy Knin, Příbram RYCHETSKÝ, RYCHECKÝ, Opatov, Zbilidy, Jihlava RYCHTA, Hlavnice, Opava ŘEHÁČEK, Písek, Písek ŘEHAK, Luka u Jihlavy, Jihlava SAFARIK, Bohuslavice, Kyjov, Jiná Oblast SALIKA, Zlatníky, Opava SEBERA, Skřečoň, Ostrava SECL, Petrovice I, Kutná Hora SEIDLER, Neplachovice, Opava SEKANINA, Buková, Olomouc SCHIMA, Hlavnice, Opava SCHNEIDER, Slavkov, Opava SCHPORNAL, Stěbořice, Opava SCHREIER, Neplachovice, Opava SCHWARZ, Znojmo, Znojmo SIENERA, , Jindřichův Hradec SKALICKÝ, Voděrady, Ústí Nad Orlicí SKOŘEPA, Šimanov (kellersdorf), Jihlava SMOLIK, Celakovice, Jiná Oblast SMRZ, Olsˇany, Jindřichův Hradec SOKOLOVSKY, Bilovec, Velka Polom, Ostrava SPURNÝ, Nová Ves u Litovle, Olomouc SPURNÝ, Lutín, Olomouc SPURNÝ, Olšany u Prostějova, Prostějov STADICK, Weissensulz, Domažlice STAVA, , Jiná Oblast STEHLÍK, Vraždový Lhotice, Benešov STEPAN, Kuklik, Brno STEPAN, Kundratice, Brno STRÁNSKÁ, , Jiná Oblast STREIT, Horní štěpánov, Olomouc SUCHÁNEK, Kováč, Smrkovice, Jičín SUKUP, Ostravice, Frýdek-místek SULTES, Podivin, Břeclav SVĚTLIK, Bratřikovice, Opava SVOBODA, Rosice, Jiná Oblast SVOBODA, Městečko, Rakovník,, Jiná oblast ŠEDO, Skořenice, Ústí Nad Orlicí ŠIMERA, Palhanec, Opava ŠINA, Hlavnice, Opava ŠPACOVSKÝ, Milostovice, Opava ŠŤASTNÝ, Tuchlovice, Kladno ŠŤOVÍK, Praha, Praha ŠULITKOVÁ, Velichov u žatce, Louny TAUER, Schilligkau, Domažlice TESARE, Prosty, Jindřichův Hradec TESAŘ, Hemže, Ústí Nad Orlicí TOMECEK, Popov, Zlín TRCKY, Popov, Zlín TRŠ, Sušice, Klatovy TůMA, Malešice, Jiná Oblast TUREK, , Frýdek-místek ULBRICHT, Jaktař, Opava VÁHALÍK, Krnov, Bruntál VANEK, Vresce, Tábor VANĚK, Litultovice, Opava VIGLICKA, Ujezd, Znojmo VÍT, Konecchlumí, Jičín VLK, Lipnik, Třebíč VOHRNA, Nepomuk, Plzeň VOJTÍK / VOTÍK, Hatě, Hlásná Třebaň, Beroun VONDROVSKÝ, Příbram, Podlesí, Příbram VOTAVA, Radkovice, Třebíč WOLF, , Jiná Oblast WOLFAN, Loudilka, Jihlava WOLKMER, Bratřikovice, Opava ZAJÍC, , Opava ZNDARSICH, Dobropolji, Žďár Nad Sázavou Tuto zprávu jste obdržel(a) protože vaše email je přihlášena k odběru měsíčníku Rod & Clan. Odběr můžete zrušit na http://www.rodclan.cz, po přihlášení v sekci kontaktní údaje. ===8<===========End of original message text===========

Hi List ! I got this from the Centre Co, PA List. Its a Great website. You can also register your WW 2 Veteran. I encourage you to pass this on to your freinds and other Lists. Regards, Mike in AZ , Son of a WW II Veteran. SWARTZ~SVARC / CERNY / HAJEK / HOSEK / KREISSINGER / CERMAK / HRABAC http://www.wwiimemorial.com/default.asp?page=home.asp

Dear Stefanie, http://info.plzen-city.cz/article.asp?sec=570&lang=1033 http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/csmsbiblio.html You might write to the Czech and Slovak Music Society or Brian Locke (above page owber) for information: http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/ http://www.music.ucsb.edu/projects/csms/csmsmemb.html You also might be able to get your answer by subscribing to their list. Ron Mlejnek At 02:19 PM 05/30/2004, you wrote: >Does any one know of this opera singer? Supposedly she lived between >1843-1922. I would be interested to know of any biographies on her in >English if there is such a thing. According to my great aunt, Gabriela is >the daughter of my Great-grandfathers sister. > >She was known as "La Boema" or La Bohema" which I am not to sure what it >means in regards to her. She was to have sung with Dvorak among others. I >have a booklet from a museum and it has about 3 pages written about her but >again it's in Czech so I'm lost. > >Thanks > >Stefanie > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: > CZECH-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple > messages) > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe

Yes, it says there is a plaque in a town that is her birth place. I am looking for more. Stefanie

In a message dated 05/30/2004 2:19:37 PM Central Daylight Time, CercaPenna@comcast.net writes: Gabriela Roubalova (1843 – 1922) is listed as a Pilsen celebrity so you might look into city history or in the city of Radnice. Radnice – the birthplace of an opera singer G. Roubalva - La Bohema. There is her memorial tablet.  338 28 Radnice

Does any one know of this opera singer? Supposedly she lived between 1843-1922. I would be interested to know of any biographies on her in English if there is such a thing. According to my great aunt, Gabriela is the daughter of my Great-grandfathers sister. She was known as "La Boema" or La Bohema" which I am not to sure what it means in regards to her. She was to have sung with Dvorak among others. I have a booklet from a museum and it has about 3 pages written about her but again it's in Czech so I'm lost. Thanks Stefanie

I am asking if someone can translate this from Czech to English. It is a history of the village where my ancestors came from. I found it at this website: http://www.obec-bulovka.cz/ and sad to say I cannot read Czech! Thank you Emil in Wisconsin Vsechny tri obce - Bulovka, Arnoltice a Dolní Oldrís jsou poprvé shodne písemne dolozeny k r. 1346 v mísenských memobiliárních knihách. Bulovka bývala v dávných dobách v drzení rodu Maxenu a Eberhardu, Arnoltice pak drzely rody Tschirnhausenu, Schwanitzu, Kyawu, Bindenmannu, Scharfsodtu, Faustu, Unwürdu a Rodewitzu. V prípade Dolní Oldríse to byly rody lénních pánu ze Schlanothu, Nicklasdorfu, Halbendorfu, ale nejvýznamnejsím rodem zde pusobícím byl rod Eberhardu. Rytíre Abrahama von Eberharda náhrobek z r. 1612 je dodnes u oldrísského kostela vcelku dobre zachován. Vne za ohradní zdí oldrísského kostela a hrbitova - vedle severní brány - se nachází jedna z 19 registrovaných chránených památek v obci, a to je smírcí kríz. Pokud jde o jména výse uvedených lénních pánu, nutno pripomenout, ze mnozí z nich byli loupezivými rytíri. Zejména nekterí Tschirnhausenové, Kyawové a Maxenové se v oblasti krvave vyznamenali. Chloubou arnoltického kostela sv. Magdalény a bulovského kostela sv. Michaela jsou ve vezích umístené puvodní velké zvony, které nepotkal smutný osud jiných, které v minulých dobách válecných skoncily prelity do podoby kanonu. Tak skoncily strední a malý zvon arnoltického a bulovského kostela a totéz se týká zvonu kostela sv. Martina v Dolní Oldrísi. Pokud se máme zmínit o puvodu názvu nasich obcí, pak v prípade Arnoltic je vysvetlení velmi snadné - puvodní nemecké kroniky uvádejí pojmenování jako Arnoldova vesnice, Arnsdorf. V prípade Bulovky se puvodní název vysvetluje mnoha zpusoby, snad nejpravdepodobnejsí výklad puvodu jména sedí z nemeckého prekladu na Býcí ves nebo Spolkovu ves (Bullensdorf, Bunnensdorf), snad mozná i Bratrská (Prátelská) ves (Boulesdorf). Pokud jde o puvod názvu Dolní Oldríse, obec se mela r. 1346 jmenovat Blrigsdorf. Pozdejsí odlisení názvu obce "Dolní" pochází od oddelení cásti "buse" - kroviny,rostí - Ullersdorf, cili cesky Dolní Oldrís. Z dalsích historických zajímavostí si uvedme následjící: Arnoltice mají r. 1652 sedm funkcních rybníku, dnes (r.2000) jediný, a to je jeste vlastne zatopené hliniste po cinnosti nekdejsí cihelny. R. 1831 -1833 byla pres Arnoltice z Frýdlantu do polského Záwidova postavena dnesní státní silnice c. I/13 (nedávno jeste I/35). V techto letech byla postavena i tzv. Poustecká obora. Silnice z Arnoltic k bulovskému statku byla postavena v r. 1907-1908, a to v délce 2 995 m Antonínem Schäfferem z Arnoltic za 21 721 Kc a zemská dotace cinila 5 500 Kc,obecní príspevek pak 5 950 Kc. R.1856 mely Arnoltice 769 obyvatel (témer tolik, jako mají dnes vsechny tri obce dohromady). R.1738 byl arnoltický kostel prestaven na zdený. Velký zvon arnoltického kostela pochází z r. 1604 od Jáchyma von Kyaw. Nejhorsí povoden postihla nase obce 13. a 14. cervna 1880, kdy hladina dosahovala az na budovu cp. 47 u arnoltického kostela ! Ant. Lammel z cp. 140 tehdy prisel o zivot. Dne 16. zárí 1779 obcí projízdí na inspekcní ceste císar Josef II. Dodnes se uzívají nekteré staré místní názvy v jednotlivých cástech obce. Tak napr. v Arnolticích U krízku, Katerinin vrch, Na Sajbe - v Bulovce zase Stemberk (Stainberg - Kamenný vrch) a zaniklé jsou Rady, Louze, Lesní mlýn a j.Na konci 14. stol. patrila jedna cást Bulovky urozeným pánum z Bibrstejna a druhá pak purkrabímu z Donína na Grabstejne. R.1629 mela Bulovka 30 sedláku, r. 1834 pak 1112 obyvatel, r. 1869 to bylo dokonce 1695 obyvatel a roku 1910 potom 1260. Kamenná podoba bulovského kostela vznikla prestavbou r. 1720-1724 a mohutná ctyrboká vez byla pristavena r. 1738. První vezní hodiny zde byly instalovány r. 1800 a r. 1909 byly verejnou sbírkou opatreny vezní hodiny zcela nové, které jdou pri péci pana Josefa Jíny presne i dnes. Velký kamenný kríz bulovského hrbitova byl vysvecen 4. ríjna 1886. Puvodní bulovská kronika jmenuje 28 obcanu, kterí v celé historii obce do r. 1926 dosáhli nevsedních postu a titulu, jako napr.: primariární pastor, zemský soudní rada ve Vídni, ucitelu, skolní inspektor, prednosta zeleznicní údrzby, továrník, preparátor vídenské univerzity, dustojníci, umelecký kovár a j. Silnice z Bulovky do Krásného Lesa postavena v roce 1893 a silnice od bulovského statku do Dolní Oldríse pak v r. 1895-1898. Elektrický proud do obce zaveden v r.1922. Posta v Bulovce zrízena r. 1913. Historii nasich obcí blíze osvetluje "Sborník" obce vydaný v r. 1996 u prílezitosti trvání nasich obcí po dobu 650 let a potom také malá brozurka z následujícího roku "Obec Bulovka v historických obrazech". Tato tiskovina prinásí hlavne pretisk obrázku a fotografií z bulovských kronik a doprovodný text je cesko-nemecký. Sborník je bohuzel zcela rozebrán, brozurky jsou jiz jen v omezeném mnozství. V r. 1996 Obec Bulovka dosáhla mimorádného úspechu v soutezi o Vesnici roku 1996 v rámci Programu obnovy venkova, kdy v oblastním kole s "Bílou stuhou" skoncila na 3. míste a tím se zaradila mezi 35 ocenených obcí v rámci celé CR. Slavnostní predání"Bílé stuhy" probehlo ve vítezné jihomoravské obci Vrateníne na cesko-rakouských hranicích. V r. 1999 bylo po spravovaných obcích rozmísteno 15 informacních tabulek s krátkým popisem vázícím se k danému objektu nebo události.

Hi List ! I recieved this today in another List. This site is amazing ! Real history as it happend and was reported. I did a search for my surname, ( czech ) came up w/ one Obit. I did a search on Bohemia, 216 articles from ... The Times newspaper, from 1785 to 1985 CAUTION ! It is all copyrighted! Regards, Mike in AZ ----------------------------------------------- To: WIKENOSH-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <BAY12-DAV43yVBUx0Ma0002e913@hotmail.com> Subject: THE TIMES free trial period.... Subject: THE TIMES FREE FOR TODAY! http://infotrac.galegroup.com/itweb/free4_tda which gives access to a huge database of The Times from 1785 to 1985!!! If you use the word "trial" as a password, you can access the database for free. You m-i-g-h-t have to click in the box first and THEN type trial then click on the "Proceed" button. This takes you to the Keyword search section where you can "click in the entry box and enter search term(s)." scout subjects not just your surname... census civil war Remember, this is information from 1785 to 1985 i found it not possible to clip the image, so print it and then scan if you wish... further, notice the email option... IT DOES NOT EMAIL THE IMAGE... it emails the citation.... which i would suggest you do get and then link to your printed page.... look in your junk mail for these email results..... run some tests before you start printing and sending huge amounts... based on the url, it is FREE FOR TODAY! Look too in the left column... sadly, the view all data bases, even just to see what the gale group has on line is not available and sadly too, there is no info regarding how to subscribe for when it is NOT free...

Hi Nancy, It just lists the last name and the members with that last name. There were noother family members with Marie or Wenzl.If there were they would have been listed.My family had the wife and 4 children listed..Both Chadima had none. There was a Chadina listed below Chadima and I can send you that family if you think there is a miss spelling. Let me know. Regards, Pat in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Kubik" <eymer@esisnet.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca Look-Ups Please > That does help a lot, Patricia. Any chance it lists other family members > traveling with them? > > Thanks so much. > > Nancy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Fink" <wolibra@worldnet.att.net> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca Look-Ups Please > > > : Hi Nancy, I have Vol 5 and on page26 there are 2 Marie Chadima 23 > : Bohemia;Suevia, 29 April 1880 the other is Wenzl Chadima > 41,Bohemia;Main,19 > : February 1870.Hope this helps. Pat in Texas > : ----- Original Message ----- > : From: "Nancy Kubik" <eymer@esisnet.com> > : To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > : Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:50 PM > : Subject: [CZ] Baca Look-Ups Please > : > : > : > > : > > : > Chadima - Baca Vol. 5, page 190 > : > > : > Chadima - Baca Vol. 1, page 158 > : > > : > Chadima, Franz - Baca (just says page 40 of 1995 publication)? > : > > : > Any help will be sincerely appreciated. > : > > : > Nancy > : > > : > > : > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > : > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > : > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > : > > : > : > : ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > : The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are > making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list > address and add the individual's address. > : > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail. >

Martin HOZAK and Pavel HOZAK, Javornik (near Velka Nad Velikou), Moravia. 1840-1896

That does help a lot, Patricia. Any chance it lists other family members traveling with them? Thanks so much. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Fink" <wolibra@worldnet.att.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Baca Look-Ups Please : Hi Nancy, I have Vol 5 and on page26 there are 2 Marie Chadima 23 : Bohemia;Suevia, 29 April 1880 the other is Wenzl Chadima 41,Bohemia;Main,19 : February 1870.Hope this helps. Pat in Texas : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "Nancy Kubik" <eymer@esisnet.com> : To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> : Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:50 PM : Subject: [CZ] Baca Look-Ups Please : : : > : > : > Chadima - Baca Vol. 5, page 190 : > : > Chadima - Baca Vol. 1, page 158 : > : > Chadima, Franz - Baca (just says page 40 of 1995 publication)? : > : > Any help will be sincerely appreciated. : > : > Nancy : > : > : > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== : > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to : > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM : > : : : ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== : The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and add the individual's address. :

Hi Nancy, I have Vol 5 and on page26 there are 2 Marie Chadima 23 Bohemia;Suevia, 29 April 1880 the other is Wenzl Chadima 41,Bohemia;Main,19 February 1870.Hope this helps. Pat in Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Kubik" <eymer@esisnet.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 2:50 PM Subject: [CZ] Baca Look-Ups Please > > > Chadima - Baca Vol. 5, page 190 > > Chadima - Baca Vol. 1, page 158 > > Chadima, Franz - Baca (just says page 40 of 1995 publication)? > > Any help will be sincerely appreciated. > > Nancy > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM >

Chadima - Baca Vol. 5, page 190 Chadima - Baca Vol. 1, page 158 Chadima, Franz - Baca (just says page 40 of 1995 publication)? Any help will be sincerely appreciated. Nancy

Thanks Rosemary -- for the site. I just went to www.cgsi.org -- and right at the top is a map that is very helpful. It is an extremely simple map of Czechoslovakia 1918 showing the borders of the surrounding countries. I've been reading the more detailed maps in order to find cities but knowing the borders helps understand potential relationships with other countries. Susan

List, I ordered family sheets in Czech (and they have Slovak, too ) from the Czechoslovakian Genealogy Society International. I am a member. Here is their website: www.cgsi.org/ Rosie in WA State Rosemary Loss Bodien rosie@bodien.org Researching Los(s), Kure, Kubes, Smetka, Kratina, Pavlica, Jirinec, Hytych, Vasicka, Kopecka, Vojkovska, Uhlika, And Zindulka

Hello list. Seems I saw a site to get the blank forms to fill in information from the Ellis Island site (info from the manifests). Can anyone tell me where it is ?? Thanks Cleone

Rosie, I think you bounced off of subscription. Please re-sub. Thanks for this information. Elaine Hello Rosemary On Friday, May 21, 2004, you wrote > List, > I ordered family sheets in Czech (and they have Slovak, too ) from the > Czechoslovakian Genealogy Society International. I am a member. > Here is their website: www.cgsi.org/ > Rosie in WA State

That's good that you already saw that site. If I were you I would contact her anyway. Even though she didn't include information, she may have bits and pieces but not enough to publish -- or she may have only wanted to publish what she was directly connected to. At any rate, it's worth a try. My aunt just contacted a cousin in Florida to see if anyone was working on a family tree. Turned out she had started writing a family story several years ago -- we revived her work and she actually had her grandfather's(my great grandmother's brother) naturalization certificate and birth/baptismal certificate from 1854. What a find that was! I would also suggest calling the cemetery office before you go -- they might be able to direct you in finding the graves and they may have information in their record books that they could send or give you. Many places are charging fees for this -- a New York City cemetery charged me $15 for doing some research. For me it was worth it because the cemetery sent me copies of the burial cards which listed grave and row #'s and of course the date of death. That gave me the information I needed to obtain my great grandparents death certificates. You'd be surprised how much information can be on them -- depending on who gave the information. Even funeral parlors keep records and may give you information. As for ancestry.com and genealogy.com -- I don't have memberships in them right now but ancestry.com does offer a free seven day membership and it really is free. You don't even have to submit a credit card number. You get to download a family tree program (I did and haven't even figured out how to use it) and then you get to sign on for the seven day membership. It disappears in seven days so you have to make good use of it. Here is the link: http://www.ancestry.com/aftexec/ As for the free two week trials, be aware you have to cancel by phone and cannot cancel on the weekend -- so set up the trial so you can make the best use of it. As for genealogy.com you can either try a two week trial subscription and then cancel if you want .... or you can just take a one-month subscription. I did both (the free seven days for ancestry.com and then a one month membership to genealogy.com --- both of them have their strengths and weaknesses. I found ancestry.com easier to find information (using enumeration districts, etc) but harder to read the actual pages. Genealogy.com was a little more difficult to locate things but was much easier to read once you found it. Hope you get some information --- who knows - if you find enough clues maybe you can collaborate with her on hiring a researcher. Take care. Susan