This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Langer, Mach Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sqB.2ACIAE/24 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Josef Langer, House 27, Lipa, Moravia. He resided there from 1908 - 1911, at least. He would be my great grandfather and lived there all his life, I believe. Any information appreciated.

If someone wants to post a question or information to any mail list, please try to be brief, but at the same time specific about what you are looking for. Most important are dates and locations. Next, names of parents, siblings, etc. Finally, put you name at the end. Ron Mlejnek At 01:00 AM 06/19/2004, you wrote: >I am looking for the name Hlousek can you help me?

Web posted Saturday, June 19, 2004 Czech Days Reflects Heritage http://www.yankton.net/stories/061904/com_20040619017.shtml ***** Normally, I only send this type of post to Czech-Traditions, a list specifically created for discussion of culture, traditions, recipes, etc. If you are interested in the low traffic list, send one word, subscribe, nothing else in your email, to CZECH-TRADITIONS-L-request@ROOTSWEB.COM Elaine

I am looking for the name Hlousek can you help me? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Mlejnek" <rvmlejnek@navix.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:31 PM Subject: [CZ] New surnames added > The following names have been added to the CZECH Surname list: > > BOHATEC > CHLUP > COUFAL > DUFEK > ENTLER > GRUND > HOUDEK > HRUDA > ITTNER > JANICEK > JENICEK > KARLOVSKY > KOLAR > KOSTIK > KUBAT > KUBICEK > KUBIN > KUCABA > LAVICKA > MAREK > MULLER > NITSCH > NITSCHE > OCACEK > OPATRNY > PAJT > PAVLICEK > PECH > PELAN > PLISEK > POLACEK > POMPE > PROCHAZKA > PUNCOCHAR > RAICHL > SKARDA > SMIDL > SOUCEK > SPICKA > STAVA > TAJOVSKY > TOMASEK > VLACH > VLASAK > VLCEK > VOTAVA > WICAR > > Ron Mlejnek > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search our archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH >

The following is an updated list of researchers. The order on the list is by random selection. Some have websites. There are several other researchers listed in CZECH Mail List Archives, but they could not be located. If anyone has anyone they would like to include along with an endorsement, post them to this list. Follow the guidelines listed under "Finding a Professional Researcher" before committing to any financial arrangements. Ron Mlejnek ---------------- List ----------------------- Finding a Professional Researcher: Web Sites http://www.cgsi.org/research.asp?i=4 http://www.cyndislist.com/czech.htm#Professional http://www.geocities.com/oxfordjct_suchdol/hire_researcher.htm http://www.rootdig.com/professional/index.html http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/profgen.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~czewgw/czechlibrary.html http://members.aol.com/cgsi/research.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ Barbora Stastna President barbora.stastna@czech-genealogy.com +420 604 264 922 Ladislav Urban Vice-President ladislav.urban@czech-genealogy.com +420 603 540 453 Company address: Czech-Genealogy Osadni 2 Prague 7 170 00 Czech Republic Homepage: http://www.czech-genealogy.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Family Lines Eduard Kovalda P.O.Box 7 284 01 Kutna Hora Czech Republic e-mail: family-lines@quick.cz Homepage: http://www.family-lines.cz ------------------------------------------------------------ Tom & Marie Zahn (and Associates) North America 2225 Crestline Blvd., Olympia, WA 98502 USA tel./fax. (360) 754-2093 Europe Na Homoli #5 Praha 4, 143 00 Czech Republic tel./fax. (420) 257 940 113 e-mail: info@pathfinders.cz Homepage: http://www.pathfinders.cz/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Vladimir Bohinc KONEKTA s.r.o. Dukelska 11 915 01 Nove Mesto nad Vahom Slovak Republic e-mail: konekta@nm.psg.sk Homepage: http://www.konekta.sk/ ------------------------------------------------------------ David Kohout Janackovo Nabrezi 57 Prague 5 Czech Republic, 150 00 e-mail: david.kohout@quick.cz Homepage: http://genealogypro.com/dkohout.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Duncan B. Gardiner, Ph.D. 12961 Lake Avenue Lakewood, Ohio 44107-1533 USA (216) 221-9460 FAX (216) 226-5171 e-mail: duncan@en.com Homepage: http://www.feefhs.org/pg/dg/gardiner.html ------------------------------------------------------------ T & P Research Zuzana Capková Kostrinska 583/6 Praha 8 181 00 Czech Republic e-mail: office@tpresearch.cz Homepage: http://www.tpresearch.cz/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Family Roots Jiri Osanec I. P. Pavlova 26 779 00 Olomouc Czech Republic Phone from US: (011-420-68) 543-8541 Phone from CzR: (068) 543-8541 e-mail: josanec@iol.cz Homepage: ------------------------------------------------------------ MRAZ Genealogy and Family History Research Pavel Mraz & Eva Mrazova Nachodska 254 549 32 Velke Porici CZECH REPUBLIC e-mail : mraz1@e-mail.cz Homepage: http://www.cmail.cz/mraz1/ ------------------------------------------------------------ Czech Census Searchers 720 Sycamore Ave. Marshfield, WI 54449, USA e-mail: CzechCensus@yahoo.com Homepage: http://czechcensus.tripod.com/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------ Institute for Historical Family Research Ing. Felix Gundacher IHFF Genealogie Gesellschaft mbH A-1190 WIEN, Pantzergasse 30/8 Tel = +43 1 369 97 29 Fax = +43 1 369 97 30 e-mail: office@ihff.at Homepage: http://www.ihff.at/ alternate: http://www.ihff.at/indexstarte.htm (English) alternate: http://www.ihff.at/indexstart.htm (German) alternate: http://www.ihff.at/IHFF_Tschechiene.htm (Czech Research) alternate: http://www.ihff.at/IHFF_Slowakeie.htm (Slovak Research) ------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Miroslav (Mirek) Koudelka Prichystala 43 772 00 Olomouc Czech Republic Phone: (420) 585-241-234 Cellular phone: (420) 603-326-285 Fax via: (420) 585-225-774 e-mail: mirekk@mbox.vol.cz Homepage: http://www.volweb.cz/mirekk/intro.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Jaroslav Fiala Jicín, Czech Republic e-mail: jaroslav@bohemiangenealogy.com Homepage: http://www.bohemiangenealogy.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------ BohMor Projects Julius Müller Prague, CR e-mail: jmuller@toledot.org Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Palace/6691/jformula.html Notes: Specializing in Jewish Research in Czech Republic ------------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Mrazek Novak Uchityl Eichinger Skala Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sqB.2ACIAE/23 Message Board Post: >Hello from Austria, > > > >I´m looking for any information about MRAZEK and NOVAK. The only thing >I know is that the NOVAK Family was living in Birnbaumhof near Iglau. >They had a “Wirtshaus” there. The MRAZEK line came from the area around >Znaim or Znaim directly. > > > >Maybe someone of you can show me the right way for searching. > > > > > >Greetings > > > >Dieter Eichinger > > > >office@ahnensuche.net > >www.ahnensuche.net <http://www.ahnensuche.net/>

Dear Ron! Thank you for your email to the list. Please, note, that my old email-address ihff@netway.at is not active. Please, use my new one: office@ihff.at Thank you! With kind regards, Ing. Felix Gundacker professional genealogist for Austria, Bohemia and Moravia IHFF Genealogie Gesellschaft mbH Pantzergasse 30/8 Austria, A-1190 WIEN Tel = +43 1 369 97 29 Fax = +43 1 369 97 30 email: office@ihff.at http://www.ihff.at   -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Ron Mlejnek [mailto:rvmlejnek@navix.net] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 16. Juni 2004 01:13 An: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Betreff: [CZ] Researchers Below is a list of researchers. Many of them do not limit their research to just the Czech Republic, but will also do Silesia (Poland) and Slovakia, and Austria. Be certain to find out how much they will charge and how their charges are assessed. For example, some have high traveling costs but low hourly charges. Some charge for every record and some by the hour as a flat rate. Some have an "up front charge" and some will do so many hours at a reduced cost. Also, find out how close they live to the Archive of interest as this effects traveling costs. Vladimír Brezina <vl.brezina@post.cz> T&P Research <office@tpresearch.cz> Mirek Koudelka <mirekk@mbox.vol.cz> Martin Pytr <maxi@raz-dva.cz> Julius Muller <fish-cz@geocities.com> Jiri OSANEC <josanec@iol.cz> Jaroslav Jansa <tomas.mikyska@tiscali.cz> Jaroslav Fiala <jaroslav@bohemiangenealogy.com> Hana Skockova <quirin@quick.cz> Ing. Felix Gundacker <IHFF@netway.at> Duncan Gardiner <duncan@en.com> Blanka Vetrovcova <vetrovcova@genealweb.cz> Barbora Stastna <barbora.stastna@czech-genealogy.com> Steven & Ivana Baxley <baxleyovi@cirkevbozi.cz> Paul Ptacek <czechcensus@yahoo.com> Many of these have websites where their fee structure is published. Do a search on their name to find those sites. Ron Mlejnek ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail.

I attempted to obtain census records which did not survive and so the kind researcher checked the Church index of believers from 1855 to 1859 which (HAPPY DANCE, folks, can you hear those taps tap tap tapping?!) did contain family. Because the house numbers are on the copies I am able to "see" the family names. I admit that I am very happy I have that "pointer". I absolutely required the help of professional researchers once I crossed the water. Elaine Hello Dorothy On Monday, June 14, 2004, you wrote > Hi Susan, > That's a big question--my personal opinion is that I think they are > trying to organize their records for themselves first. IF and that's a > big IF it happens, it will likely be when the current government > changes over and there are more people who are currently under age 40 > in positions of authority. I think there are too many old guard still > around. Then maybe the Mormons will have a better chance to talk to > them and get something going again. > My question to you is, how fluent are you in Czech grammar (especially > the 7 adjective and noun case changes for each of the 3 genders--which > also applies to surnames, first names, villages and regions), Czech > geographic names and changes and the German variation, vocabulary, and > old handwriting, even Czech in German script? You will find all of that > in the records plus the German and Latin languages. This is, of course, > on top of reading the microfilms. When I get copies from a researcher, > it is hard enough to find my family on the one page they send me, and > read the citation. Finding it in the original book can be quite > daunting if you are looking for anything older than 1900. Not to > discourage you, but there are a host of difficulties. > Dorothy

Sharon, To do both lines with siblings, travel, copies, finished bound booklet pictures etc., to before 1800 was 35,450 Kc. The rate during 2003 varied between 29 and 30 Kc to the dollar so the cost was US $1181 plus tip. On one line of my Grandfather she went to 1603 when my 8G Grandfather was made a nobleman by King Rudolf II. She found and translated the edict dated April 9, 1603 that made him a nobleman. Altogether she added several hundred leaves to my tree which now has over 900. I counted it as money well spent. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Beanner" <scott.beanner@verizon.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > Hi Mike, > > How expensive was it? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Martin" <mikemartin@firstva.com> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 1:13 PM > Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > > > Sharon, > > I had a woman do both sides of my Grandparents families in the Czech > > Republic in 2003. I was very satisfied with her results and even had her > do > > picture albums of some of the ancestral villages and family houses. > > If you are interested you can contact me directly at > > mikemartin@firstva.com > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <Mike1228@aol.com> > > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > > > > > > Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. > > > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > > > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively > > handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal > > problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an > > email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate > > for list discussion. > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, > chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring > and/or lose subscription privileges. > >

Mike, Just so that these figures do not scare someone off, can this be broken down into #s of records or #s of lines. My experience has been that one family (parents plus children) costs about $50-100 USD. So if one starts with their grandparents and works back to about 1700 (typical year) that would be about 6 generations in one line which is about $200-250 if all the records are in one parish. That would be an "extract" of the records (NO OFFICIAL COPIES or XEROX COPIES) and a finished report. So with two grandparents following 4 lines, it could easily cost $1000+. Now that is a lot of work and based on the best of possibilities. If the researcher traveled from Prague to Brno and then to other archives just to complete the records, the costs go up. Also, I have never obtained a death record (except very young children). Basically, what you get are the birth of parents and their parents names and place of residence, marriage data and children's names and births. You do not follow the "branches"; rather just the one main line. So for about $1200 USD, what Mike describes is a reasonable cost since he got some extra information, pictures and services. Also, my figures are based on research by the National Archives in Prague and Brno and about 5 private researchers. If you do this over a period time (one family line at a time), the cost can be spread out over several years. Of course if you have the $$ now, go for it because it will not get cheaper with time. Ron Mlejnek At 08:16 PM 06/15/2004, you wrote: >Sharon, > To do both lines with siblings, travel, copies, finished bound booklet >pictures etc., to before 1800 was 35,450 Kc. The rate during 2003 varied >between 29 and 30 Kc to the dollar so the cost was US $1181 plus tip. On one >line of my Grandfather she went to 1603 when my 8G Grandfather was made a >nobleman by King Rudolf II. She found and translated the edict dated April >9, 1603 that made him a nobleman. > Altogether she added several hundred leaves to my tree which now has over >900. I counted it as money well spent. >Mike > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott Beanner" <scott.beanner@verizon.net> >To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 7:02 PM >Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > > > Hi Mike, > > > > How expensive was it? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike Martin" <mikemartin@firstva.com> > > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 1:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > > > > > > Sharon, > > > I had a woman do both sides of my Grandparents families in the Czech > > > Republic in 2003. I was very satisfied with her results and even had her > > do > > > picture albums of some of the ancestral villages and family houses. > > > If you are interested you can contact me directly at > > > mikemartin@firstva.com > > > Mike > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <Mike1228@aol.com> > > > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:23 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > > > > > > > > > Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. > > > > > > > > Sharon > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > > > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > > > > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > > All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively > > > handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal > > > problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an > > > email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate > > > for list discussion. > > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, > > chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring > > and/or lose subscription privileges. > > > > > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: > CZECH-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple > messages) > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe

Hi Mike, How expensive was it? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Martin" <mikemartin@firstva.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > Sharon, > I had a woman do both sides of my Grandparents families in the Czech > Republic in 2003. I was very satisfied with her results and even had her do > picture albums of some of the ancestral villages and family houses. > If you are interested you can contact me directly at > mikemartin@firstva.com > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Mike1228@aol.com> > To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:23 PM > Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > > > Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. > > > > Sharon > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > > > > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively > handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal > problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an > email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate > for list discussion. >

For information only, I have an Epson Perfection 1240 U scanner that came with a TWAIN interface and bundled OCR software. I have scanned Czech pages with very high accuracy as long as it was clear print. If the print quality is poor and there is a lot of fancy type, I do not think anything is very good at character recognition. Ron Mlejnek At 05:42 AM 06/15/2004, you wrote: >Someone asked me about a scanner that recognizes foreign languages. I >apologize for not being prompt in my answer. Since I am not a tekkie the >best way I know how to answer is using www.whatis.com at the following link >http://searchsmallbizit.techtarget.com/sDefinition/0,,sid44_gci214132,00.html > >Whatis answers questions about computer stuff. An untekkie's best friend. >Also at the above link it will give suggestions as to products that have the >OCR needed to recognize languages. > >Stefanie > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, >chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring >and/or lose subscription privileges.

Below is a list of researchers. Many of them do not limit their research to just the Czech Republic, but will also do Silesia (Poland) and Slovakia, and Austria. Be certain to find out how much they will charge and how their charges are assessed. For example, some have high traveling costs but low hourly charges. Some charge for every record and some by the hour as a flat rate. Some have an "up front charge" and some will do so many hours at a reduced cost. Also, find out how close they live to the Archive of interest as this effects traveling costs. Vladimír Brezina <vl.brezina@post.cz> T&P Research <office@tpresearch.cz> Mirek Koudelka <mirekk@mbox.vol.cz> Martin Pytr <maxi@raz-dva.cz> Julius Muller <fish-cz@geocities.com> Jiri OSANEC <josanec@iol.cz> Jaroslav Jansa <tomas.mikyska@tiscali.cz> Jaroslav Fiala <jaroslav@bohemiangenealogy.com> Hana Skockova <quirin@quick.cz> Ing. Felix Gundacker <IHFF@netway.at> Duncan Gardiner <duncan@en.com> Blanka Vetrovcova <vetrovcova@genealweb.cz> Barbora Stastna <barbora.stastna@czech-genealogy.com> Steven & Ivana Baxley <baxleyovi@cirkevbozi.cz> Paul Ptacek <czechcensus@yahoo.com> Many of these have websites where their fee structure is published. Do a search on their name to find those sites. Ron Mlejnek

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jindela Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sqB.2ACIAE/21 Message Board Post: The Jindela family emigrated from 'Bohemia between l868-1870. The following are listed on the 1870 Census Record in the town of Islip, County of Suffolk, NY. John JIndela Madaline Jindela- Wife and their children: John =DOB 1852, Josephine -1861,Mary & Antoine-1862, Charles-1867, and Albert born in NY in 1869. Any info would be appreciated. Edith Jindela-van Miert

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jindela Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sqB.2ACIAE/22 Message Board Post: The Jindela family emigrated from 'Bohemia between l868-1870. The following are listed on the 1870 Census Record in the town of Islip, County of Suffolk, NY. John JIndela Madaline Jindela- Wife and their children: John =DOB 1852, Josephine -1861,Mary & Antoine-1862, Charles-1867, and Albert born in NY in 1869. Any info would be appreciated. Edith Jindela-van Miert

I read in a e-mail that someone had a grandfather from Melink in the Czech Republic and it stood out because my grandfather came from there but much earlier. His name was Vaclav Dvorak and came here around the last 0f 1870.s or early 1880,s. I would like to know something about that area. Thank you Georgene

Sharon: I used a researcher about 5 years ago for my grandparents who were from Melnik, Bohemia -- immigrated in 1907. His name is: Duncan Gardiner, Ph.D. and Certified Genealogist 12961 Lake Avenue Lakewood, Ohio 44107-1533 (216) 221-9460 E-mail: duncan@en.com He did a marvelous job for me. He goes to The Czech Republic twice yearly. The first time, I limited him to 1/2 day. I used him 3 times and have a ton of family history, including side-line families. Good luck with your effort. Jeannine Hughes Shaffer > > From: Mike1228@aol.com > Date: 2004/06/15 Tue AM 11:23:50 CDT > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > > Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. > > Sharon > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > >

Sharon, I had a woman do both sides of my Grandparents families in the Czech Republic in 2003. I was very satisfied with her results and even had her do picture albums of some of the ancestral villages and family houses. If you are interested you can contact me directly at mikemartin@firstva.com Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mike1228@aol.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. > > Sharon > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > >

Try www.cgsi.org , put your pointed on research than click on professional researchers. David ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mike1228@aol.com> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [CZ] Arizona Czech/Slovak Research > Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. > > Sharon > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to > CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM > > >

Where can I get the name of a good researcher for Czech. Sharon