Hello Listers, I've now found two related Komrska's that list the same father in these two different ways: Ratkovic next Volyne Ratkovic, by Strakonic I now believe the spelling is Radkovice as that town is just west between Volyne and Strakonice, but much closer to Volyne. Strakonice is listed as 61.8 miles SSW of Prague. Volyne is 68.5 miles SSW of Prague. The problem is, when I try viewing Radkovice on www.mapquest.com , I get 4 that show up. But in checking with all four, it has become clear to me that none of them is the one described above. The only way I can view mine is by looking for Volyne or Strakonice. For both, I have to focus in a notch closer, and then shift the screen once south (if starting with Strakonice). I had to play with this a bit and get a few print outs, comparing surrounding towns before I realized that none of the four listed towns of Radkovice fit in with mine. Therefore, does anyone know where the church records for "my" Radkovice would be? I'm use to reading Catholic church film records of German towns in Baden through my local Family History Center, and was hoping to do the same with my KOMRSKA ancestors - even if I had to learn another language or two! I now have some knowledge of Latin and German. Carol

Those old maps, Mary, that you listed http://mujweb.cz/www/mapy/ for are great! I'm trying to see if I can enlarge them to 100% so I can get a clear print out of them. I need to use a magnifier to view the names of the towns, and thus far have only found how to print the upper left corner of the page. Do you know why? Carol -----Original Message----- From: Mary Boyd [mailto:mdb@open.org] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 4:35 PM To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CZ] Historical Maps Hi Listers, For those who might be interested, I just found a large group of historical Czech maps online at this URL: http://mujweb.cz/www/mapy/ Good luck to all with your research! Mary ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Czech Message Boards are at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic

In a message dated 7/21/2004 11:03:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, jpecenka@niu.edu writes: Another is that the Cleveland library also has online access to their obituary files. I don't recall what time period it covers, but if you can find these folks the obituaries might somehow identify some relationships. Thanks, Joe! I have checked the necrology file. I will see if I can check the census files as well. Ceal

Morning; I would suggest contacting the Cuyahoga County archives,great staff there on Franklin Ave. Then perhaps check with Calvary to see who did the funerals,if you can find thier records it'll probably give you all you need. Also might try _www.cpl.org.,think_ (http://www.cpl.org.,think) thats the obits section,should be something there. If thats not the right web site write me back,I'll look it up for you. Tony Szachury,Szacsuri,Szacsury,Wallish,Vallish,Matti,Montgomery,Kovacs

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Hi, Ceal. I assume you are looking for ideas. One is to check the appropriate census and see if maybe these folks are living with each other, or near each other, as extended families often did in that time period. There may therein be other clues. Another is that the Cleveland library also has online access to their obituary files. I don't recall what time period it covers, but if you can find these folks the obituaries might somehow identify some relationships. If any of these work I'd sure like to hear about it. Joe

There are three people buried at Calvary Cemetery, Cleveland, Ohio in my great-grandmother's (Julia Horak Stehno) grave, along with three other people who are related. These three may be related to me but I have no idea who they are and have not been able to find any family connection as of yet. James Cipra died 1908 Joseph Cipra died 1899 Josephine Cipra Hronek died 26 March 1915, wife of F.J. Hronek They appear to be two brothers and a sister. Thanks! Ceal

Are those the volume of books titled: "Czechoslovakia Immigration Passenger List"? I'm new to Czech. ancestry, but found my Malecek emigrating ancestor in one of those. I'd be happy to do a look up for you, but it may not be until this weekend. So I'll watch to see if anyone comes forth before then. Carol -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Kittilson [mailto:Kkittils@wcca.state.mn.us] Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 4:30 PM To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [CZ] Baca lookup - Baltimore vol. VIII Found a reference to someone supposed to be listed in Vol. VIII of Baca's books, arrival Baltimore. Hoping someone can look up the rest of the entry for me - the set at the historical society here is missing that volume. Thanks! Janischta, Wenzl - Baltimore 1873 ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail.

These are just great. Thanks Mary Don Ondracek > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Boyd [mailto:mdb@open.org] > Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 5:35 PM > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CZ] Historical Maps > > Hi Listers, > > For those who might be interested, I just found a large group of > historical Czech maps online at this URL: > > http://mujweb.cz/www/mapy/ > > Good luck to all with your research! > Mary > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > Czech Message Boards are at > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic

Thank you,Mary. It's a nice site. Joe

Kevin, The rest of the entry states his age as 24, from Bohemia on the ship Leipzig arriving 11 July 1873. Bob Trehearne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kittilson" <Kkittils@wcca.state.mn.us> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: [CZ] Baca lookup - Baltimore vol. VIII > Found a reference to someone supposed to be listed in Vol. VIII > of Baca's books, arrival Baltimore. Hoping someone can look up > the rest of the entry for me - the set at the historical society > here is missing that volume. Thanks! > > Janischta, Wenzl - Baltimore 1873 > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail. > >

--=======D6927AD======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-49AA297A; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What a "super" find!!!!! Ron Mlejnek At 04:35 PM 07/21/2004, you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >For those who might be interested, I just found a large group of >historical Czech maps online at this URL: > >http://mujweb.cz/www/mapy/ > >Good luck to all with your research! >Mary > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >Czech Message Boards are at >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=board&r=rw&p=topics.ethnic > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 07/19/2004 --=======D6927AD======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-49AA297A Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.725 / Virus Database: 480 - Release Date: 07/19/2004 --=======D6927AD=======--

Found a reference to someone supposed to be listed in Vol. VIII of Baca's books, arrival Baltimore. Hoping someone can look up the rest of the entry for me - the set at the historical society here is missing that volume. Thanks! Janischta, Wenzl - Baltimore 1873

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Hi Listers, For those who might be interested, I just found a large group of historical Czech maps online at this URL: http://mujweb.cz/www/mapy/ Good luck to all with your research! Mary

It clearly was NOT meant for the list. Let's have no further comment. Your subject line does not refer to the incident for those who don't understand. Elaine Hello TymnaV On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, you wrote > Not sure this should be listed for public reading.

Not sure this should be listed for public reading.

I believe this post was made in error, folks. And reading the legend on his post, I plan to do precisely that and remove it from my computer. Elaine Hello donaldhlousek On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, you wrote > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <james.funk@autozone.com> > To: <donaldhlousek@cox.net> > Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:47 AM > Subject: [Fwd: Fw: Chinese Proverbs] <SNIPPED> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to >> which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged >> material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or >> taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or >> entities other than the intended recipient is >> prohibited. If you received >> this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any >> computer. >> >>

----- Original Message ----- From: <james.funk@autozone.com> To: <donaldhlousek@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 8:47 AM Subject: [Fwd: Fw: Chinese Proverbs] > > CHINESE PROVERBS > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Virginity like bubble, one prick, all gone. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who run in front of car get tired. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who run behind car get exhausted. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man with hand in pocket feel cocky all day. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Foolish man give wife grand piano, wise man give wife upright organ. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who walk through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man with one chopstick go hungry. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who scratch ass should not bite fingernails. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who eat many prunes get good run for money. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Baseball is wrong: man with four balls cannot walk... > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Panties not best thing on earth! but next to best thing on earth. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > War does not determine who is right, war determine who is left. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Wife who put husband in doghouse soon find him in cat house. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who fight with wife all day get no piece at night. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > It take many nails to build crib, but one screw to fill it. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who drive like hell, bound to get there. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who stand on toilet is high on pot. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who live in glass house should change clothes in basement. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who fish in other man's well often catch crabs... > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Man who fart in church sit in own pew. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Crowded elevator smell different to midget. > > *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > > Now if you send it to 10 or more people with in the next 5 minutes, > > Nothing will happen but 10 people will be laughing at these Proverbs! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. > >

--=======287D5EBD======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4578575E; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My ggrandparents immigrated from Radkowitz, on the ship Bark Capella, sailing from Bremen arriving Baltimore, MD 27 May 1867. With them were 15 other persons listing their village as Radkowitz, 4 from Malinetz, 2 from Zinkovy, 1 from Radachow, all traveling together for St. Louis. In using http://mapy,altas.cz/ found all these villages closest to Mecin. - which is where I think I'll research next. - If anyone has further suggestions - I'm all ears. -------------- Previous message -------- I think your logic is perfect here and you should start at this particular Radkowitz. These are not coincidences! You might consider doing a surname check on Ellis Island records to see if there were any other ships later with persons from the same village with the same surname. If you have other surnames, use Steven Morse's search forms for the village and the surnames. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm Ron Mlejnek --=======287D5EBD======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4578575E Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.721 / Virus Database: 477 - Release Date: 07/16/2004 --=======287D5EBD=======--