I know there are rules to do with names - ie. male and female versions of the same surname. It might be in the archives. But my guess is the name would Mudrunka. I checked the on-line czech telephone directory and found several men with the surname Mudrunka; and several women with the surname Mudrunkova. Here is the link to the telephone directory: http://phonebook.quick.cz/index.php?fce=10&VYMAZFORM=on&id=1 It can be converted to English. I use this as a way of determining the possible correct spellings of Czech names. If I can find it in the directory, I take the chance that the spelling is the correct one. I think the rule is something like this: If the name ends in a vowel, you drop the vowel and add ova to make the feminine version of the name. The rule has much more to it -- but this is my best guess. Welcome any more guesses. Susan W.

In a message dated 9/7/2004 9:32:49 AM Central Daylight Time, kltrb2@frontiernet.net writes: have a female relative with the surname Mudrunkova. What would her husband's surname be? MUDRA?

Hi - What you received is the response from the site inviting ? you to register your surnames. In the middle of the response, you will see the letter/number combination. This is your personal password. Look for: sd5ae5 If you go back to the e-mail from Elaine (yesterday, I believe), you will see more detailed instructions as to how to go back to the site and enter your email and heslo (password). This will allow you to log into the site and register your surnames. Susan W. > I registered at the Rod & Clan site and this is, I think, the response I > received. I am not sure if I am in or rejected but I think that the first word > is > congratulations (maybe). > > > Dobrý den, > gratulujeme vám k úspì¹né registraci na genealogických stránkách Rod a Clan. > Va¹e uŸivatelské heslo je: > > sd5ae5 > > Pokud byste mìl(a) s pøihlá¹ením do systému potíŸe, napi¹te nám prosím do > redakce. > > Za redakci, > Martin Mìky¹ > redakce@rodclan.cz > > > Poznámka: Tuto email jste obdrŸel(a) na základì registrace va¹í emailové > adresy na stránkách http://www.rodclan.cz. Pokud jste o registraci neŸádal(a), > dejte nám prosím vìdìt abychom mohli va¹i registraci zru¹it. > > Thanks in advance > Susan > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: > CZECH-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) > CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com (for a digest of multiple > messages) > In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >

Just another quick note - don't get discouraged by the Czech language. When you go back to Elaine's posting, you will see directions in English along with the Czech words you will also see as you follow the directions. Susan W.

I registered at the Rod & Clan site and this is, I think, the response I received. I am not sure if I am in or rejected but I think that the first word is congratulations (maybe). Dobrý den, gratulujeme vám k úspì¹né registraci na genealogických stránkách Rod a Clan. Va¹e u¾ivatelské heslo je: sd5ae5 Pokud byste mìl(a) s pøihlá¹ením do systému potí¾e, napi¹te nám prosím do redakce. Za redakci, Martin Mìky¹ redakce@rodclan.cz Poznámka: Tuto email jste obdr¾el(a) na základì registrace va¹í emailové adresy na stránkách http://www.rodclan.cz. Pokud jste o registraci ne¾ádal(a), dejte nám prosím vìdìt abychom mohli va¹i registraci zru¹it. Thanks in advance Susan

Listers - I have a female relative with the surname Mudrunkova. What would her husband's surname be? Also a male relative with the surname Nehyba. What would his wife's surname be? Thanks for any help. Tonya

The following names have been added to the Czech Surname List: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/czsurname.htm BOROS BROZ DOLECEK FABIK HAVRAN HLAVSA KAHANEK MARTIS MINAR MLYNAR SHOCKAL SLANSKY STEPAN TOBERMAN VALCIK VITEK Occasionally a name is added, but it is not posted on the list. Everyone should periodically check the list for accuracy on the names they previously submitted and to look for duplicate names submitted by others. Currently there are 3000 names in the database and an occasional mistake can slip in. I can only correct a mistakes if I am made aware of it. Ron Mlejnek

Here is the link: http://www.rodclan.cz/index.php Go to the Czech list -- well you probably received the e-mail too - Elaine posted the instructions to use -- you'll need them and they are very good! Susan

This is a forwarded message From: List Administration <chook@starpower.net> To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, May 4, 2004, 1:27:04 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: [CZ] Registration at Rodclan website ===8<==============Original message text=============== The site is working, I did just log in. Try the procedure described below again. Elaine *************** Subject: [CZ] Registration at Rodclan website ===8<==============Original message text=============== Honza, Your instructions are terrific, and I did add my paternal surname with a district. My poor maternal surname has no identifying geographical area, not certain what kind of response that will bring, but I figured I would take advantage of your website and stick her surname out there. Thank you for making it easy to enter the information. I hope the subscribers will use these instructions and handle their own registration. We must learn to do these things if we are going to be successful in our continuing quest for family information. I am retaining your post in case anyone missed the full set of instructions for registering surnames at http://www.rodclan.cz Elaine Hello Honza On Thursday, February 12, 2004, you wrote > Sure. Below are basic guidelines that should help anyone get registered and > add surnames to the database. They may appear a bit lengthy, but I just > tried to list step-by-step instructions to make it as easy as possible. > 1) From the main page http://www.rodclan.cz click on "registrace" (or simply > click on this link > http://www.rodclan.cz/?module=register) to go to the > registration page. > 2) Enter the required information > Email - your email address where others can contact you > Jméno - Your first name > Príjmení - Your last name > Web - your genealogical web pages (if you have any, otherwise leave > blank) > Ano, chci odebírat Emailový mesícník (if you select this checkbox, you > will automatically receive via email a list of surnames added to the > database each month) > 3) Click on the Zaregistrovat button > 4) If you entered correct information (we try to validate email), you should > see the message below. It says that your registration was successful and you > shall receive password via email. If you see anything else, your > registration was not completed successfully, most likely because you entered > invalid email. > Vase registrace probehla úspesne. Za okamzik vám emailem posleme heslo, > které budete moci pouzít pro prihlásení na vás úcet. Pokud byste do 24 hodin > tuto email nedostali, napiste nám do redakce a my registraci proveríme. > 5) Upon receiving email from Rod & Clan with subject Rod & Clan - > registrace, you have your password. It is a six-character string on the > third line by itself (see sample message below with xxxxxx). > Dobrý den, > gratulujeme vám k úspesné registraci na genealogických stránkách Rod a Clan. > Vase uzivatelské heslo je: > xxxxxx > 6) Go back to http://www.rodclan.cz and login by entering your email and > password into the fields on the top left side (Email: and Heslo:) and > hitting Enter or clicking on the blue arrow. Be careful to enter your > password correctly - some pesky characters like number zero/letter O or > number one/lowercase L can look similar. The best bet is to copy and paste > the password from the email you received. > 7) Once you are logged in, you should see a frame titled "Moje Data - Výpis > vasich predku". This is a list of your surnames in the database (so far > empty). If you don't see this title, login was not successful - most likely > because you entered incorrect email or password. > 8) Assuming you are logged in, you have four links on the left-side panel. > They do the following: > moje data - displays your surnames > kontaktni udaje - displays your contact information (name, email, web) > and also allows you to change password > pridat prijmeni - this lets you ADD SURNAMES to the database > odhlasit - logout > 9) So lets add some surnames. Click on the "pridat prijmeni" link. It > brings up a form asking for three pieces of information: > Prijmeni - surname > Obec - place (village/town) > Oblast - region (this is a drop-down list with Czech regions. If you are > unsure what region to use, simply leave this field at the default setting > "Jina oblast" which means other region). If you want to find out the > region, there are good reference pages with Czech regions and cities at > http://mesta.obce.cz/ > With all information entered, click on the button "Pridat udaje" which will > add the surname to the database. > 10) If you did everything right, you should be looking at the page with your > surnames and the one you just entered should be listed there. You can add > more surnames following the same steps. > 11) You can also edit or delete your existing surnames simply by clicking on > the green links on the left side of your existing surnames. "UPRAVIT" means > edit and "SMAZAT" means delete (to delete it you have to click on SMAZAT and > then confirm deletion on the next page by clicking on another SMAZAT again). > 12) Just to make sure your names are listed, click on "nova prijmeni" on the > main page which lists names added in the past 30 days. Yours should be > listed there. By clicking on the surname you should be able to invoke an > email to be sent to your address. Also if you entered your genealogical web > site during the registration, there will be a blue "W" icon next to the > surname. Clicking on it will open your web pages. This is a nice feature > as you can either opt to send email to someone or browse their web pages > with their family information. > If you got stuck along the way or are simply afraid to try, send me an email > with your surnames and contact info and I will add it to the database. We > purposely designed the database to be self-sufficient to limit our overhead, > but I realize that the language barrier poses a challenge to some. > Hope this helps, > Honza ===8<===========End of original message text===========

Susan, May I have the addy for the Rod and Clan website? Thank you. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, ANN --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage!

Just wanted to check back in and let people know my experience with the Rod and Clan Website. I found the directions by Honza Uher -- very easy to follow -- in the archives - February 12, 2004. The Rod and Clan site is in Czech but Honza with her English directions makes it very easy to register your names. I also e-mailed about 14-15 people who registered surnames I am researching. Within two days, I received responses from three people. Two people responded in English; the other responded in Czech but I was able to translate using an on-line Cz-English site. Here is the link to this site: http://www.slovnik.cz/ Hope others find it as easy and good luck. Thanks Elaine. Take care. Susan W.

Can anyone tell me what counties (okres) the following cities and villages are in? Radnice--- Olesna--- (located about 10.6 mi. ESE of Radnice, I assume Rokycany county) Liblin--- Olesna--- (located about 2.5 mi. S of Liblin) Plana--- Dobric--- Kopidlo--- Plasy--- Would these counties be the same today as they were in 1850? I was unable to find a map or listing on the Internet of this information. Is there a map or listing on the Internet that gives / shows this sort of information? Thanks, Glenn

Glenn, These two sites are useful at finding town and county info: http://mapy.atlas.cz/aquariusnet/frm_uvod.asp http://www.obcemesta.cz/ The first one will let you search on the name of the village (click british flag for english). The second one will give you a list of towns in each county. Good luck! Mary

Bohemian/Czech family I am researching includes: JECHA, Jan b. abt 1859 Unkown > America 1888 > Chicago > d.1910 Chicago. married in Czech somwhere: KOTLAS, Franziska (Francis) b. Perknov > America 1888 > Chicago > d.1946 Chicago. This couple had 8 children (4 made it to adulthood). Also: SCHROLL, Vaclav (James) b. 1871 Bohemia (Austria) > America abt 1889 > Chicago > Texas > Illinois > d. 1910 Grundy Co., Illinois. Married 9/10/1892 in Cook County to: KUBOVEC, Sofia b. abt. 1874 Bohemia > America abt. 1891 > Chicago, Texas > Grundy Co., IL > Chicago > d. abt 1944 Illinois she also married SEDLARS and finally JANOUS Those are the main ones right now. There's also SVOBODA and JELINKA or JELINEK. Teresa~

I found this site pretty good. http://www.ihff.at/indexstarte.htm Gale >From: Judith Mason <judith.mason@ameritech.net> >Reply-To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com >To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CZ] Czech Placename Search >Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:56:16 -0700 (PDT) > >Please help! I recall a website where you enter a village name and the >various names of this same village were given. I've searched and cannot >locate the website. Can someone please help. Thanks so much! > >Judie Mason >Chicago, IL > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >Czech-L's webpage is at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

I believe the following site is the one your looking for. _Rod & Clan_ (http://www.rodclan.cz/index.php) Best Regards, Mel Besthorn

Thanks Gale! Judie Gale Brown <gdb86@hotmail.com> wrote: I found this site pretty good. http://www.ihff.at/indexstarte.htm Gale >From: Judith Mason >Reply-To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com >To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [CZ] Czech Placename Search >Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 11:56:16 -0700 (PDT) > >Please help! I recall a website where you enter a village name and the >various names of this same village were given. I've searched and cannot >locate the website. Can someone please help. Thanks so much! > >Judie Mason >Chicago, IL > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >Czech-L's webpage is at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm > _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar � get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate for list discussion.

Can someone help me with the location or name change of this Czech village. It was mentioned as the birth place of my gr gr grandmother in a recent research report. I was not able to find it at the Rod-Clan website. Thanks any help. Judie Mason

This is it! Thanks so very much Mel! Judie Mason MABesthorn@aol.com wrote: I believe the following site is the one your looking for. _Rod & Clan_ (http://www.rodclan.cz/index.php) Best Regards, Mel Besthorn ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== List Administrator may be reached by sending an email to CZECH-ADMIN@ROOTSWEB.COM

Please help! I recall a website where you enter a village name and the various names of this same village were given. I've searched and cannot locate the website. Can someone please help. Thanks so much! Judie Mason Chicago, IL