Gayle - Here it is: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=CZECH Do a search of the archives. Query: Honza Choose 2004 - go to posting 10 of 37. Scroll down -- I would also suggest printing the directions. Good luck. Susan

Here is the website: http://www.rodclan.cz/index.php I suggest you go into the archives to find Honza's English directions for registering -- unless you are fluent in Czech. Susan W.

Karla, you can order copies from the 1921 and other Census: http://czechcensus.tripod.com/ good luck Lars Germany > Personally, I'd like to know about the availability of the 20th century > Czechoslovak census, especially 1920 or thereabouts. Is this available in > the US or must one look at it in Prague? > > Karla Huebner > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are > making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list > address and add the individual's address. > -- Superg�nstige DSL-Tarife + WLAN-Router f�r 0,- EUR* Jetzt zu GMX wechseln und sparen http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl

OK Susan, color me dumb...but I don't find Honza's English directions gayle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Williams" <swilliams1200@comcast.net> To: <CZECH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [CZ] Rod and Clan website > Here is the website: http://www.rodclan.cz/index.php > I suggest you go into the archives to find Honza's English directions for > registering -- unless you are fluent in Czech. Susan W. > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively > handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal > problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an > email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate > for list discussion. >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/sqB.2ACIAE/21.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Use : http://phone.quick.cz British flag symbol is English version

Do you have the URL for the Rod and Clan Website. Thank you, Gayle \> > Just wanted to check back in and let people know my experience with the > > Rod and Clan Website. > > I found the directions by Honza Uher -- very easy to follow -- in the archives - > > February 12, 2004. The Rod and Clan site is in Czech but Honza with her English directions makes it very easy to register your names. I also e-mailed about 14-15 people who registered surnames I am researching. Within two days, I received responses from three people. Two people responded in English; the other responded in Czech but I was able to translate using an on-line Cz-English site. Here is the link to this site: > > http://www.slovnik.cz/ Hope others find it as easy and good luck. > > Thanks Elaine. Take care. Susan W.

> > From: "Susan Williams" <swilliams1200@comcast.net> > Date: 2004/09/06 Mon AM 08:14:51 CDT > To: CZECH-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CZ] Rod and Clan website > > Just wanted to check back in and let people know my experience with the > Rod and Clan Website. > I found the directions by Honza Uher -- very easy to follow -- in the archives - > February 12, 2004. The Rod and Clan site is in Czech but Honza with her English directions makes it very easy to register your names. I also e-mailed about 14-15 people who registered surnames I am researching. Within two days, I received responses from three people. Two people responded in English; the other responded in Czech but I was able to translate using an on-line Cz-English site. Here is the link to this site: > http://www.slovnik.cz/ Hope others find it as easy and good luck. > Thanks Elaine. Take care. Susan W. > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > If you'd like to search our archives, please visit > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH > >Susan! Is this the website you added the Jindela name? I tried to get in it and a mag camee up stating Not Found- the requested URL was not found in on this server. Edith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/sqB.2ACIAE/21.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello! How would I get into the Prague directory and trace the avove name JInela/Jendele????

Personally, I'd like to know about the availability of the 20th century Czechoslovak census, especially 1920 or thereabouts. Is this available in the US or must one look at it in Prague? Karla Huebner

In a message dated 9/14/2004 6:01:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, CZECH-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: I have never accessed the Czech census. Can you provide some insight as to how one accesses any census, what time periods are covered, etc. I am primarily searching in the early1800's and 1700's, but see this as an opportunity to fill in some collateral lines and descendancies that I have not wanted to pay genealogists to complete. Jerry, The Czech census are not all the 'organized' as are the US ones. Census that you can search were taken 1858, 1869, 1880, 1890, 1900, 1910, and 1921 - if I remember correctly. Only other census taken on mass basis was the one done after the 30 years war, and it was not all inclusive of children and nobility - the Soupis Poddanach. Secondly, extant census for each town are located in the Okresni Archiv for each separate district. That is, not all census of each town for each year they were taken exist. In a particular Archiv, you might find several, or none, for a particular town. For some towns there might exist in the Okresni Archiv for that town a book of residents; it is sort of a conglomeration of information gathered over time for each house in the town. It indicates birth, death, marriages for the occupants - they tended to not move over a long timeframe, so it is sort of a short movie over the time the record started to when they stopped - which, for the example I saw, was about just after WWI from sometime just prior to the turn of the century. So going back to 18th and 19th centuries would be great, but there is no guarantee you will find anything for the time frame you are interested in. However, if you do find something, you will find things like if the residents moved between census, or went into military there is a note attached to the old census to indicate that person is no longer a resident there. If a person is in the militarty, but intends on returning, the military regiment is noted. People who are not in town, but considered residents are noted along with their current place. Lots of good info... if you can find them. Anettka

Hi, Ron, I've read your many responses to the Czech queries in this forum. Thank you for all your responses. Today you mentioned the Czech census. I have been searching my family in the US and Czech Republic for many years and have used genealogists in the Czech Republic a number of times as well as conducting research in the archives myself. I have never accessed the Czech census. Can you provide some insight as to how one accesses any census, what time periods are covered, etc. I am primarily searching in the early1800's and 1700's, but see this as an opportunity to fill in some collateral lines and descendancies that I have not wanted to pay genealogists to complete. Any insights would be greatly appreciated! -------------- Original message -------------- > --=======7E0973F8======= > Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-29036644; charset=us-ascii; > format=flowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Wanda, > > One word of encouragement is that every message to this list is archived > and searchable. Someone may not respond now, but 5 years from now may > search on a name and turn up one of your posts to the list. > > Secondly, you have a lot of information already, so what are you looking > for now? If you want to know the identities of parents and siblings back > in the Czech Republic, the Czech Census Records are a good place to start. > > Ron Mlejnek > > At 01:41 PM 09/14/2004, you wrote: > > >Hello Lynn, > > > >I know I did not give much info on my names research. I was on this > >List a couple of other times and never had any success, so just thought I > >would throw those names out there. > > > >Yes, my Lopour/Lapour's came to America, at least some did and some > >remained in Czech. My grandfather Anton Lopour who married Emily Dusek > >---He was born 1870 in the Protestant Village of Prosec to Antonin > >Lopour and Anna Cerveny. He came to the US at age 19-20, in 1890, going > >to Marshalltown, Iowa where his Uncle Joseph Lopour ( also from > >Czech) lived, however moved on to Texas for some reason. There he met > >Emily Dusek, daughter of Frank Dusek and Anna Motl ( Motlova) and they > >were married in Texas and raised three daughters and five sons, my father > >the second son & child. Anton died in 1914 in a hospital at Post, Texas. > >Emily Dusek was the first child of her parents born in America ( 1870) as > >her parents & siblings had just come to the US by way of Port of > >Galveston and they remained in Texas where many of their descendants > >still live. The Duseks were from around Dolni Cermna . I have much info on > >my Dusek family, both in Czech and America. > > > >Anna Cerveny, wife of Anton Lopour, my great-grandfather was living in > >the Prostestant Village of Prosec at the time of their marriage , tho her > >marriage data indicated she was a Catholic. As far as I have been able to > >discover, only one brother has been located, Joseph Cerveny who was > >younger than she and came to the US after Anna's family came in 1890. His > >descendants live in Texas and Oklahoma. Joseph's wife ( I think) was a > >Coufal and I am a aquainted ( by email) to one of her relations. I > >understand after Antonin Lopour died, Anna Cerveny Lopour married a man by > >name of Mihulka ( may be spelled wrong) and died in Marshalltown, Iowa. > >Anna's father was Jan Cerveny and mother may have been Anna > >Teply. Antonin Lopour was born abt 1845 in Czech., came to America 1890, > >settled in Marshalltown, IA and died early 1900's. His parents were > >Antonin Lopour and Fannie ( Frantiska) Faimon( Fajmon). They too lived in > >the Protestant Village of Prozec and married in 1845. We believe this > >Antonin Lopour's father to have been Jiri Lopour. I have no further > >info on these Lopours. > > > >Coufal's--Mine married into the Dusek family. > > > >Motl, ggrandmother Anna Motl, wife of Frank Dusek --I do not have much > >info on the Motl's. > > > >I would guess I am related to all Texas Duseks, plus other. > > > >Maybe this info will be more helpful. > > > >Wanda > > > >>Are your surnames in the USA? Where in the US. 2 of your surnames are on > >>my list, but are fairly common Czech names. > >> > >>Lynn > >. > > > > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > >Czech-L's webpage is at > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 09/10/2004 > > --=======7E0973F8======= > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; > x-avg-checked=avg-ok-29036644 > Content-Disposition: inline > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 09/10/2004 > > --=======7E0973F8=======-- > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are making a > personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the list address and > add the individual's address. >

--=======7E0973F8======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-29036644; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Wanda, One word of encouragement is that every message to this list is archived and searchable. Someone may not respond now, but 5 years from now may search on a name and turn up one of your posts to the list. Secondly, you have a lot of information already, so what are you looking for now? If you want to know the identities of parents and siblings back in the Czech Republic, the Czech Census Records are a good place to start. Ron Mlejnek At 01:41 PM 09/14/2004, you wrote: >Hello Lynn, > >I know I did not give much info on my names research. I was on this >List a couple of other times and never had any success, so just thought I >would throw those names out there. > >Yes, my Lopour/Lapour's came to America, at least some did and some >remained in Czech. My grandfather Anton Lopour who married Emily Dusek >---He was born 1870 in the Protestant Village of Prosec to Antonin >Lopour and Anna Cerveny. He came to the US at age 19-20, in 1890, going >to Marshalltown, Iowa where his Uncle Joseph Lopour ( also from >Czech) lived, however moved on to Texas for some reason. There he met >Emily Dusek, daughter of Frank Dusek and Anna Motl ( Motlova) and they >were married in Texas and raised three daughters and five sons, my father >the second son & child. Anton died in 1914 in a hospital at Post, Texas. >Emily Dusek was the first child of her parents born in America ( 1870) as >her parents & siblings had just come to the US by way of Port of >Galveston and they remained in Texas where many of their descendants >still live. The Duseks were from around Dolni Cermna . I have much info on >my Dusek family, both in Czech and America. > >Anna Cerveny, wife of Anton Lopour, my great-grandfather was living in >the Prostestant Village of Prosec at the time of their marriage , tho her >marriage data indicated she was a Catholic. As far as I have been able to >discover, only one brother has been located, Joseph Cerveny who was >younger than she and came to the US after Anna's family came in 1890. His >descendants live in Texas and Oklahoma. Joseph's wife ( I think) was a >Coufal and I am a aquainted ( by email) to one of her relations. I >understand after Antonin Lopour died, Anna Cerveny Lopour married a man by >name of Mihulka ( may be spelled wrong) and died in Marshalltown, Iowa. >Anna's father was Jan Cerveny and mother may have been Anna >Teply. Antonin Lopour was born abt 1845 in Czech., came to America 1890, >settled in Marshalltown, IA and died early 1900's. His parents were >Antonin Lopour and Fannie ( Frantiska) Faimon( Fajmon). They too lived in >the Protestant Village of Prozec and married in 1845. We believe this >Antonin Lopour's father to have been Jiri Lopour. I have no further >info on these Lopours. > >Coufal's--Mine married into the Dusek family. > >Motl, ggrandmother Anna Motl, wife of Frank Dusek --I do not have much >info on the Motl's. > >I would guess I am related to all Texas Duseks, plus other. > >Maybe this info will be more helpful. > >Wanda > >>Are your surnames in the USA? Where in the US. 2 of your surnames are on >>my list, but are fairly common Czech names. >> >>Lynn >. > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >Czech-L's webpage is at >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/index.htm > > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 09/10/2004 --=======7E0973F8======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-29036644 Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 09/10/2004 --=======7E0973F8=======--

Hello Lynn, I know I did not give much info on my names research. I was on this List a couple of other times and never had any success, so just thought I would throw those names out there. Yes, my Lopour/Lapour's came to America, at least some did and some remained in Czech. My grandfather Anton Lopour who married Emily Dusek ---He was born 1870 in the Protestant Village of Prosec to Antonin Lopour and Anna Cerveny. He came to the US at age 19-20, in 1890, going to Marshalltown, Iowa where his Uncle Joseph Lopour ( also from Czech) lived, however moved on to Texas for some reason. There he met Emily Dusek, daughter of Frank Dusek and Anna Motl ( Motlova) and they were married in Texas and raised three daughters and five sons, my father the second son & child. Anton died in 1914 in a hospital at Post, Texas. Emily Dusek was the first child of her parents born in America ( 1870) as her parents & siblings had just come to the US by way of Port of Galveston and they remained in Texas where many of their descendants still live. The Duseks were from around Dolni Cermna . I have much info on my Dusek family, both in Czech and America. Anna Cerveny, wife of Anton Lopour, my great-grandfather was living in the Prostestant Village of Prosec at the time of their marriage , tho her marriage data indicated she was a Catholic. As far as I have been able to discover, only one brother has been located, Joseph Cerveny who was younger than she and came to the US after Anna's family came in 1890. His descendants live in Texas and Oklahoma. Joseph's wife ( I think) was a Coufal and I am a aquainted ( by email) to one of her relations. I understand after Antonin Lopour died, Anna Cerveny Lopour married a man by name of Mihulka ( may be spelled wrong) and died in Marshalltown, Iowa. Anna's father was Jan Cerveny and mother may have been Anna Teply. Antonin Lopour was born abt 1845 in Czech., came to America 1890, settled in Marshalltown, IA and died early 1900's. His parents were Antonin Lopour and Fannie ( Frantiska) Faimon( Fajmon). They too lived in the Protestant Village of Prozec and married in 1845. We believe this Antonin Lopour's father to have been Jiri Lopour. I have no further info on these Lopours. Coufal's--Mine married into the Dusek family. Motl, ggrandmother Anna Motl, wife of Frank Dusek --I do not have much info on the Motl's. I would guess I am related to all Texas Duseks, plus other. Maybe this info will be more helpful. Wanda > Are your surnames in the USA? Where in the US. 2 of your surnames are on > my list, but are fairly common Czech names. > > Lynn > .

Are your surnames in the USA? Where in the US. 2 of your surnames are on my list, but are fairly common Czech names. Lynn > > Hello, > > My Most Wanted Czech names are: DUSEK, CERVENY, LOPOUR/LAPOUR, MOTL, > COUFAL, and many others. My ggrandfather Anton (Antonin) Lopour > married Anna Cerveny in Czechoslovakia. His son, my grandfather Anton > Lopour married Emily Dusek. > > Wanda -- Visit my genealogy website: http://webs.lanset.com/lingbro Key surnames: BOCHNICEK, BROD, BROZ, DVORAK, GRAHAM, HRASKY, ONTL, PETRAN, PAZDERA, SMRCEK, STEUERNAGEL, TOUPAL, VANICEK, VOKRACKA and more, most from Missouri, Illinois and New York areas. "ALL INCOMING AND OUTGOING E-MAIL IS SCANNED WITH NORTON ANTI-VIRUS, updated daily"

We've been having a discussion on and off the list regarding records at Our Lady of Peace Church in NYC. I started out giving information about this church and Our Lady of Perpetual Help. But as happens on these lists all the time, I learned more information too. I want to thank both Ann and Jackie for sharing their experiences -- now I have written to the church and will hopefully have the marriage information I have been searching for! Susan W.

No, I didn't go to the church. In 1980 they had sent me a marriage cert. but no parents names or where born. I asked if I could go and look at the records they had told me no. In 2002 I wrote again and found out that the record were at OLP. I called and SEC said she would look it up if I would wait. Silly girl. Wait I wouldn't move. She told me under birthplace there was something with Boh after it. I told her that was what I was looking for. When I asked her if I could go in and read it myself she said yes. However the following week when I called to say I was going the next day she was oout sick. The man who answered said he would try and help me to call back the next day. I did. He couldn't read the writing either. When I asked how much the bus was from GrandCentral he said I should take the subway. However with my heart (4 way by pass) I couldn't do the stairs. That's when he said he would send me a copy. 22 years to fins out something that they could have told me when I first wrote. Good Luck Jackie

--=======76477C4======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4F311A4C; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear Wanda, My personal bias is that one should provide dates and specific places when posting surnames on any mail list. Czechoslovakia used to be a rather large country. Without village names or at least place names and dates in the US, it is very difficult to respond to an inquiry except with more questions. Ron Mlejnek At 04:11 PM 09/13/2004, you wrote: >Hello, > >My Most Wanted Czech names are: DUSEK, CERVENY, LOPOUR/LAPOUR, MOTL, >COUFAL, and many others. My ggrandfather Anton (Antonin) Lopour married >Anna Cerveny in Czechoslovakia. His son, my grandfather Anton Lopour >married Emily Dusek. > >Wanda > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >RootsWeb forbids posting of copyrighted material without >permission of the author. Read RootsWeb's Acceptable Use >Policy at http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/aup.html. > > > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 09/10/2004 --=======76477C4======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-avg=cert; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4F311A4C Content-Disposition: inline --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.760 / Virus Database: 509 - Release Date: 09/10/2004 --=======76477C4=======--

Jackie, I read as many marriage registers as I could find from 1884-1887 and found nothing. I did this through renting films at the Mormon research center. Then, in desperation, I sent my $15 to Chambers Street and asked them to look in 1885. They found nothing. I think I will write to the church and see if they can find a record (and if they are willing to look for me). Thanks for the information. Susan

A very nice website http://www.upt.pitt.edu/upt_peaslee/

I had found one marriage certificate in Chambers Street, NY. I had sent some money $5 or $10 with original letter. I think. His name was Bill Ford and he worked on Thursdays. Did you go to Chambers Street to look in the archives their marriage. It takes time but usually you can find them. First look up under the name that is not common. Like I'm now Sullivan but there are a lot of Sullivans. Look up under my maiden name CECH. Not many of them. You look under the bride and then also under groom. I also had baptismal paper from the church and we looked back from then. Jackie