Judy -- looks like Joe has already come to your rescue. Looks like I got the gist of some of it. Will you be going to Kutna Hora? Will the flooding stop your travels? Susan -- Feel free to answer in a general list e-mail rather than privately. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "marshaja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: [CZ] help again! >I am here in Prague and will not be able to meet my cousin as planned due >to the floods. He has emailed me the following and, of course, I cannot >interpret it all. > thanks > judi > > Ahoj, moc se omlouvám ze jsem nemohl prijet do Prahy, ale voda v Labi > stále stoupá. Uz je u sousedu a je ji opravdu moc. > > Posílám alespon jedno foto. > > Kdyz budete treba v Kutné Hore, urcite bych prijel - narodil jsem se tam. > > Preji krásný pobyt. > > Marek > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, > chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring > and/or lose subscription privileges. > >

Judy - I used the on-line site and this is my "best" effort. He says: Hello -- Many apologies that I could not come to Praha but the water is unstable and continuing to come. I think he says it is receding but not enough. I think he says he is sending you at least a picture of Kutna Hora (not quite sure of that - as if I'm sure of any of it (smile) I think he is saying something about someone being born. Narodil translates as "he was born" jsem translates as "I am" se tam - might translate as "there". So, perhaps he is saying he is where this person was born. Maybe you will get a more expert opinion but I hope this helps in the meantime. Take care and enjoy your trip -- such a trip that you may not be able to meet your cousin in person. I am sure he is as disappointed as you. Have you been effected by the flooding -- I hope not. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "marshaja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 3:43 PM Subject: [CZ] help again! >I am here in Prague and will not be able to meet my cousin as planned due >to the floods. He has emailed me the following and, of course, I cannot >interpret it all. > thanks > judi > > Ahoj, moc se omlouvám ze jsem nemohl prijet do Prahy, ale voda v Labi > stále stoupá. Uz je u sousedu a je ji opravdu moc. > > Posílám alespon jedno foto. > > Kdyz budete treba v Kutné Hore, urcite bych prijel - narodil jsem se tam. > > Preji krásný pobyt. > > Marek > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > No off topic posts, flames, virus warnings, prayers, jokes, > chain letters, etc. Violators will be placed on message monitoring > and/or lose subscription privileges. > >

I am here in Prague and will not be able to meet my cousin as planned due to the floods. He has emailed me the following and, of course, I cannot interpret it all. thanks judi Ahoj, moc se omlouvám ze jsem nemohl prijet do Prahy, ale voda v Labi stále stoupá. Uz je u sousedu a je ji opravdu moc. Posílám alespon jedno foto. Kdyz budete treba v Kutné Hore, urcite bych prijel - narodil jsem se tam. Preji krásný pobyt. Marek

marshaja wrote: >I am here in Prague and will not be able to meet my cousin as planned due to the floods. He has emailed me the following and, of course, I cannot interpret it all. >thanks >judi > >Ahoj, moc se omlouvám ze jsem nemohl prijet do Prahy, ale voda v Labi stále stoupá. Uz je u sousedu a je ji opravdu moc. >Hi, I am very apologetic that I could not come to Prague, but the water in the Labe (river) is constantly rising. It is already at the neighbor's, and there is in truth very much of it. >Posílám alespon jedno foto. >I am at least sending one picture. >Kdyz budete treba v Kutné Hore, urcite bych prijel - narodil jsem se tam. >Perhaps when you are in Kutna Hora, surely I will be able to come - I was born there. > > >Preji krásný pobyt. >I wish you a beautiful stay. >Marek >Mark > > >

0472916 Bd. 41-42 1881 Jul - 1881 Dec was wondering how to obtain a copy of this film other than via email. My copy of the manifest is not very clear. Having trouble reading it. Sincerely John Dvorak Michigan

For the current correct address, use the CZECH Researcher page: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/Czech_Researchers.htm They are listed under: Czech Census Searchers 720 Sycamore Ave. Marshfield, WI 54449 USA http://czechcensus.tripod.com/index.htm <[email protected]> Ron From: Pam <[email protected]> Date: 2006/04/03 Mon AM 05:43:58 CDT To: [email protected] Subject: [CZ] Re: Czech census At 06:00 AM 4/3/2006, you wrote: >Has any one used the web site www.czechcensus.tripod.com to order a census >search? Since the Czech records for the most part have not been microfilmed >I thought this might be a good way to get some of the information I am >looking for. Is that the right URL? I've tried it and keep getting an error message that the page does not exist. Pam http://www.pamsgenealogy.net ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== Please do not repost the whole digest when replying to mail.

At 06:00 AM 4/3/2006, you wrote: >Has any one used the web site www.czechcensus.tripod.com to order a census >search? Since the Czech records for the most part have not been microfilmed >I thought this might be a good way to get some of the information I am >looking for. Is that the right URL? I've tried it and keep getting an error message that the page does not exist. Pam http://www.pamsgenealogy.net

I have used them several times with success. My requests have always been for the 1857 and 1869 census and have been very helpful in locating the names of sibling of ancestors and parents names that were living in the households at that time, especially helpful with the names of a few that had died in Europe before the rest of the family came to America. I too had a couple of ancestors that the census was previously destroyed as others have mentioned, but there was no charge for those requests since they did not perform a search of those records. I am very satisfied with the information they provided.

Hi Kathy, I tried them, but there are several years missing, and so it just depends if you're lucky and need info from one that still exist. I wanted info from 1890 and 1900 but was told by them they could not help me. You just have to e-mail them and ask about the years, and find out. Inge ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: [CZ] Czech census > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3490 > > Message Board Post: > > Has any one used the web site www.czechcensus.tripod.com to order a census > search? Since the Czech records for the most part have not been > microfilmed I thought this might be a good way to get some of the > information I am looking for. > > If anyone has any comments on using that site I'd appreciate hearing from > you. > > Thanks. Kathy Vacek > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list click on > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or > mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) > Contact [email protected] for list related problems > For the CZECH-L archives, go to > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/czech >

Hello list. Is there any census forms for Babice, Czech for the years around 1829, to find family members??? Thank you to all.... C&C

[email protected] wrote: > Has any one used the web site www.czechcensus.tripod.com to order a census search? Since the Czech records for the most part have not been microfilmed I thought this might be a good way to get some of the information I am looking for. > > If anyone has any comments on using that site I'd appreciate hearing from you. > > Thanks. Kathy Vacek > > My request to them had no success because records were not retained. They did seem to try their best. However, I know someone who did have success, and was pleased. John

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3490 Message Board Post: Has any one used the web site www.czechcensus.tripod.com to order a census search? Since the Czech records for the most part have not been microfilmed I thought this might be a good way to get some of the information I am looking for. If anyone has any comments on using that site I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. Kathy Vacek

It sounds like a great site to use. The only thing is I sent them all my four great grandparents surnames and locations, but they couldn't find anything on any of them. However, I did find out later that the area some were in, the census got destroyed at one point. Isn't that the "pits"?!! Fortunately, though, hiring a private researcher has helped. Carol -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 4:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [CZ] Czech census This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3490 Message Board Post: Has any one used the web site www.czechcensus.tripod.com to order a census search? Since the Czech records for the most part have not been microfilmed I thought this might be a good way to get some of the information I am looking for. If anyone has any comments on using that site I'd appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. Kathy Vacek ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from this list click on mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe (list mode) or mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe (digest mode) Contact [email protected] for list related problems For the CZECH-L archives, go to http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/czech

Still looking for folks whose ancestors came to USA onboard the SS Frisia in 1881 I'll try to transcribe some names if anyone thinks they would ring a bell. It's only from one page of the ship manifest, but i think it would be worth a try

This is a forwarded message From: anton19542001 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, April 2, 2006, 7:48:23 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [CZ] Fw: Czechoslovakia to Bremen: DVORAK Surname Still looking for folks whose ancestors came to USA onboard the SS Frisia in 1881 I'll try to transcribe some names if anyone thinks they would ring a bell. It's only from one page of the ship manifest, but i think it would be worth a try. > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/1087.1119.2 Message Board Post: birdie your grandfather was my great great grandfather i have an extensive history of the kortis thanks to the helpfullness of others on this web page please, email if you would like to have it respectfully pfoster

Yes, I have a brother of my Vaclav Komrska that came over in 1881 or 1882 that I'm still looking for. The other one is still unclear as it might be as late as 1885 that he emigrated, though the "bulk" of family members came over in 1884 and I have that ship as well as for Vaclav in 1880. There were some other extended family members that came over in 1881 and 1882 as well. I've been wondering if they came over together. Carol -----Original Message----- From: List Administration [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 12:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Fwd: {not a subscriber} Re: [CZ] Fw: Czechoslovakia to Bremen: DVORAK Surname This is a forwarded message From: anton19542001 <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, April 2, 2006, 7:48:23 AM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re: [CZ] Fw: Czechoslovakia to Bremen: DVORAK Surname Still looking for folks whose ancestors came to USA onboard the SS Frisia in 1881 I'll try to transcribe some names if anyone thinks they would ring a bell. It's only from one page of the ship manifest, but i think it would be worth a try. > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== All matters pertaining to list administration are exclusively handled by the List Administrator. If you have personal problems, questions or suggestions about list mail send an email to the administrator. The subject is not appropriate for list discussion.

Hello Judi -- Just dropping by to wish you well with your meeting with your "new cousin" -- I'm assuming you are checking e-mail while you are in Prague -- gee - I sure wish I were with you! Could you ask him if he knows of any Hala's or Holecek's from Kutna Hora or Jedlicka's from Cirkvice from Kutna Hora -- or Kraupner's? Here's hoping! Take care. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "marshaja" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 2:41 AM Subject: [CZ] Fw: Czechoslovakia to Bremen > Thank you for the fascinating information. I am in Prague as we speak and > will be meeting my researcher, Jakub and my ???6th cousin. My cousin > discovered me through my website, as he was doing research as well. It is > the first family that I have met that is still in CR > judi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Martin > To: marshaja ; [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 12:53 PM > Subject: RE: Czechoslovakia to Bremen > > > My ancestors came from Trojanovice, in Moravia. I do not know for > certain, > but I would imagine that many of them traveled by rail. In my case, from > the Frenstat area, through Olomouc and toward Prague, to Dresden and up > through Germany to Hamburg and them by carriage to Bremerhaven and Bremen. > (I have a more modern map of the rail system in Germany, though I am not > sure if there was a direct line from Dresden to Bremen at the time, and I > have read personal accounts that spoke of traveling from Moravia to > Hamburg, > and then to Bremen/Bremerhaven.) > > My understanding is that the boat fare for 3rd class (the steerage > section, > which most immigrants took circa 1800-1900) was anywhere from (the > equivalent of) $25-$85 or so to travel fro Bremen to America. There were > heavy competitions for immigrant business to America, so prices could vary > wildly. Some could even make arrangements to work for the ship line in > return for passage to America if they could not afford the price of a > ticket. > > I hope this helps you, Judi! > > Sincerely, > Richard > > -----Original Message----- > From: marshaja [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 6:12 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Czechoslovakia to Bremen > > > does anyone know how our families got to Germany in order to board the > ship? > What did it cost? My GGM would never talk about any of it to my Mom or > GM. > I wonder why. > judi > > > > ==== CZECH Mailing List ==== > The mailing list is configured to reply only to the list. If you are > making a personal reply to a poster, it will be necessary to delete the > list address and add the individual's address. >

I am not an authority on the subject but the route described by Richard Martin sounds reasonable, except that Hamburg was also a port of emigration so if they traveled all the way to Hamburg it dorsn't seem, to me, that they would have gone from there to Bremen.

I am not an authority on the subject but the route described by Richard Martin sounds reasonable, except that Hamburg was also a port of emigration so if they traveled all the way to Hamburg it doesn't seem, to me, that they would have gone from there to Bremen.