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    1. Re: GREGOR

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3447.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Your welcome. I have my doubts that someone could have been a stow away. Possible. I do think that there should be a manifest being that he was naturalized but than again those naturalization petitions before 1906 do not contain any information especially no name of a town. You could try to request his forms. Did you check into the church he got married in? Did he live long enough for social security numbers? A map of Austria of old: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm http://linktoyourroots.hamburg.de an Emil GREGOR shows up in that site. We need to locate a precise Garten in order for you to proceed with the research. Does he/family show up in 1910, 1920 or 1930 census? Just grabbing for places to look. What was his wife's maiden name? Maybe you can follow that line. Zlatica

    04/05/2006 10:41:35
    1. Re: GREGOR

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3447.2.2.2 Message Board Post: Yes, I think that it would be posible, that your ancestor used german name for czech village. It seems that it was quite common in that time.

    04/05/2006 09:55:27
    1. Re: GREGOR

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3447.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Zlatica Beca, Thank you so very much for all the info you have gotten in such a short time. My problem is that there is no records of Emil F. Gregor coming into America as far as I know. He came to America when he was 17 years old. Came into Baltimore, Maryland (Chesapeak Bay) on a cattle boat which he stowed away out of Hamburg, Germany. The only thing I know was that he became an American citizen Oct. 7,1895 In Baltimore. We were never told his parents names or his siblings. He told our father that he was born in Garten, Austria and that is all. So therefore you can see I do not know even where to start. I sure thank you for your kindness, it is greatly apprecicated. Jerry Ann

    04/05/2006 09:52:02
    1. Re: CZECH-D Digest V06 #134
    2. Gabriela Novak

    3. > > > From: [email protected] > Date: April 4, 2006 11:24:41 PM EDT (CA) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Help with Czech spelling and pronunciation > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Kostok, Lestina, Varak, Dlouhy > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRC.2ACE/3493 > > Message Board Post: > > Apparently Iowa census takers in 1880 tried to spell names the way > my czech ancestors pronounced them [ e.g. Varak =Wauzak}. Usually I > can confirm a misspelled name by names and ages of spouse and > children. But here are two that still puzzle me: Would LESTINA > sound something like LESHKENA when pronounced by a recent czech > immigrant? Absolutely, that is actually quite close! It should actually be LEŠTINA. Just looking at Prague phone listings, there are plenty LEŠTINAs. http://phone.quick.cz/seznam_o.php > And what might KOSTOK be as a czech name?My great aunt Josephine > Lestina lived with an aunt and uncle, names no longer known by any > living relative. I'm wondering if I can count her as "found' since > they were living near other relatives. Or does anyone know of > Andrew and Josephine KOSTOCK, AGES 50 AND 55 IN 1880, LIVING IN > jOHNSON COUNTY iOWA IN 1880? Of course handwriting and > transcription problems add to the confusion... > Thank you for any help. Mary Could your KOSTOK be actually Kostök (Hungarian)? It doesn't sound very czech. Hope it helps. Gabriela > >

    04/05/2006 06:34:57
    1. 19th Century European Travel Map
    2. JStarr

    3. Post roads and railroads map of Germany, Holland, Belgium, Switzerland, Italy to Naples, the largest part of France, Hungary, Poland, Austria-Hungary, etc. with a special attention drawn to railways and sea routes. Printed in Nuremberg in 1852. http://www.euratlas.net/cartogra/deutschland/index.html

    04/05/2006 05:16:58
    1. Help with Czech spelling and pronunciation

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kostok, Lestina, Varak, Dlouhy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRC.2ACE/3493 Message Board Post: Apparently Iowa census takers in 1880 tried to spell names the way my czech ancestors pronounced them [ e.g. Varak =Wauzak}. Usually I can confirm a misspelled name by names and ages of spouse and children. But here are two that still puzzle me: Would LESTINA sound something like LESHKENA when pronounced by a recent czech immigrant? And what might KOSTOK be as a czech name?My great aunt Josephine Lestina lived with an aunt and uncle, names no longer known by any living relative. I'm wondering if I can count her as "found' since they were living near other relatives. Or does anyone know of Andrew and Josephine KOSTOCK, AGES 50 AND 55 IN 1880, LIVING IN jOHNSON COUNTY iOWA IN 1880? Of course handwriting and transcription problems add to the confusion... Thank you for any help. Mary

    04/04/2006 05:24:41
    1. Mojzis
    2. Joan Peterson

    3. Recently there was discussion about the name Mojzis; upon recalling this I jotted it down when I came across it from the St Ludmilla Church Chicago Marriages: Pg 48 39 Sevcik, Tomas born: Luzkovice living: 2922 Union Av occup: masinar Father: Sevcik, Frank from Moravia Mother: Kilhof, Rosina from Moravia Marr: 10 Feb 1909 Mojzis, Anna (nee Vavre) born Cep, Bohemia living: 2922 Union Ave Father: Vavre, Jan from Bohemia Mother: Svec, Marie from Bohemia witness: Vaclav Kamis, Jeremia O'Brien Joan Peterson

    04/04/2006 03:31:24
    1. John Miles

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Miles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3492 Message Board Post: John Miles born 1884 came to New York City about 1905 with son just born and wife Anna... seeking any clues // anything

    04/04/2006 02:59:00
    1. Re: Lazu

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/65.41.704.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello Lazu's of the world. My name is Beatrice Lazu I live in Hartford Connecticut. My father is Andres Lazu and his father's name was Fautino lazu and his wife's name was Ramona. My dad states Lazu is from Seville Spain. My father and grandfather were born in Calabaza Yabucoa Puerto Rico. I know our family is huge my father had 15 siblings. My grandmother was Laboy and supposedly we have french roots. in seach of my ancestry any ideas?

    04/04/2006 02:26:17
    1. Re: [CZ] Research Questions

    3. Ron, I have used the " On line Research Tools " website many times, but I never looked at Felix Gundacher's Gazateer . It is perfect for finding the working parish for a Czech village, and researching church records. Thanks so much ! Leonard Rut

    04/04/2006 01:08:39
    1. Re: Looking for Information on Vaclav Kukral

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRC.2ACE/3477.2 Message Board Post: Just curious about what time period Vaclav lived in Volesna (now Olesna). I, too, have ancestors who lived in Volesna, kraj Pisek. The surnames were Kostohryz, Krejci and Kus. In the baptism record of my great-grandfather in 1854, Frantisek Kostohryz, the midwife is listed as "Rosalie Sklouz, the peasant cottager of Volesna #21"--the house number that you mentioned.

    04/04/2006 12:38:34
    1. Dvorak Catrina Catherine

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DVORAK VRASPIR Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRC.2ACE/3491 Message Board Post: I have a Catrina "Catherine" possible DVORAK, who sailed from Bremen to New York, arrived in New York 27 June 1907, listed mother Franciska VRASPIR DVORAK, daughter Anna DVORAK, neice Catrina no surname listed. Anna was born 24 October 1896. Frances VRASPIR DVORAK was born 15 March 1876 in Kladno, near Hlinsko, Bohemia married to Frank DVORAK born 04 December 1871 in Pohore, near Litomysl, Czechoslovakia. Frank DVORAK came to America in 1904 to New York City, lived there 6 years moved to Nebraska in 1910 to farm in Saline Co. Might be a connection ????

    04/04/2006 12:38:23
    1. Re: [CZ] Research Questions
    2. Ron and Betty Mlejnek

    3. One of the best on-line resources is Felix Gundacher's Gazeteer. The link is under "On-Line Research Tools": http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Eelainetmaddox/czgenealogy.htm When at Mr. Gundacher's site, click on "gazetteer and picture cards". When the page loads, look for the link called "Listing". Read the instructions; you must put in at least three letters. If you get a "hit", you will get all the information you need on Parish listings and how far back the records span. Ron Mlejnek At 09:52 AM 04/04/2006, you wrote: >I have been researching church records for pre - 1857 genealogical >information. Is there somewhere to find the oldest churches in pre >- 1857 Bohemia ? >And is there anywhere else to go for military or cadastral records ? ( >Either Czech or the Austrian Empire province of Bohemia ) ? I >thank the list >for being informative for this researcher. > > >==== CZECH Mailing List ==== >If you'd like to search our archives, please visit >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CZECH

    04/04/2006 10:59:42
    1. Re: ancestral search

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRC.2ACE/248.694.1 Message Board Post: My experience is that godparents were often relatives of the childŽs mother. In two cases the godfather was uncle of the baby. So the presumption that Mathias Dvorak was a relative of Catherine is very likely.

    04/04/2006 07:57:22
    1. Research Questions

    3. I have been researching church records for pre - 1857 genealogical information. Is there somewhere to find the oldest churches in pre - 1857 Bohemia ? And is there anywhere else to go for military or cadastral records ? ( Either Czech or the Austrian Empire province of Bohemia ) ? I thank the list for being informative for this researcher.

    04/04/2006 04:52:10
    1. Re: ancestral search

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: DVORAK, NOVAK, STERNHAGEN Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/248.694 Message Board Post: Hi Nancy, My husband's great great grandmother was Catherine DVORAK, born 18 April 1834 in Tesinov, Ceske Budejovice region of the Czech Republic. She was married to a Mr. NOVAK (possibly Martin Novak) sometime before 1858. It is believed he was killed in the Civil War. They had a son, Frank, born on 5 August 1858 at Fort Atkinson, Winneshiek County, Iowa. Sometime before 1863 Catherine marries Frederick "Fritz" STERNHAGEN. Their first child, Catherine STERNHAGEN, is born in August 1863 in Winnesheik County, Iowa. I have a copy of the baptism record for their son, Frederick (Bedrich, or Fritz) STERNHAGEN. His sponsors were Mathias DVORAK & Anna, his wife. I am assuming Mathias DVORAK is a relative - maybe a brother. Maybe this is information you already have. I can not take credit for most of the information -- other people have done a lot of research on this family. Let me know if this is the same person as your Catherine Dvorak. Thanks. Kathy Vacek

    04/03/2006 03:49:20
    1. Re: Czech census

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lRC.2ACE/3490.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for responding. I have heard from 2 other people who said they had good results using them too. I appreciate your input. Kathy Vacek

    04/03/2006 03:49:09
    1. Re: Czech census

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lRC.2ACE/3490.1 Message Board Post: I ordered Census records a couple of years ago from that site, and was pleased with the results. Good luck!

    04/03/2006 03:48:59
    1. Re: CZECH Census from 1829

    3. RE following question from C&C Hello list. Is there any census forms for Babice, Czech for the years around 1829, to find family members??? Thank you to all.... C&C Census available in Czech Republic start 1857,go to abt 1910 or 1921.. HOWEVER, not all census available for all areas. IF you are lucky, you might have two available for your area of interest. They were not used by the national government as much as they were by the local, including military, establishment, so were kept locally. The local gov't determined their value. In one of my areas of interest, census of 1869 and 1880 are available. In another area, census of 1900 and 1910 is available.... Nothing I know of goes back that far in time, except church related records. Anettka

    04/03/2006 01:53:01
    1. Re: Czech census
    2. Pam

    3. At 07:00 PM 4/3/2006, you wrote: >For the current correct address, use the CZECH Researcher page: > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~elainetmaddox/Czech_Researchers.htm > >They are listed under: > >Czech Census Searchers >720 Sycamore Ave. >Marshfield, WI 54449 >USA > >http://czechcensus.tripod.com/index.htm ><[email protected]> Thank you, Ron. Pam http://www.pamsgenealogy.net

    04/03/2006 01:29:51