THIS MESSAGE DOES NOT CONTAIN AN ATTACHMENT Hi Lesley, There is no marriage on AVR or the Victorian Index for Lionel and Susan. They may never have married, the marriage may not have been registered or may have married prior to arrival in Australia. It is also possable they thought they were married, apparently there were a lot of supposed ministers travelling around marrying people and they were not ministers at all. It would appear that possably Joseph born/christened 1853 may have died young; hence the naming of Joseph born 1866 who died in 1868. The family obviously moved to NSW at some time after the birth of their unnamed daughter in 1877; living, at least for a time in the COOMA area. The two NSW death entries in NSW in 1907 appear to possably be your Lionel and Susan CUTTS nee KELLY. All the best, Dorne. ********************************************* Ex NSW Federation Index 1889 - 1918 - DEATHS ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CUTTS LIONEL 1907 DANIEL SUSAN HELENSBURGH 1907 9355 CUTTS SUSANNAH 1907 WILLIAM MARY HELENSBURGH 1907 13968 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Joseph Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan Age: Sex: M Birth Place: COLLINGWOOD Death Place: Year: 1853 Reg Number: 20843 Denomination: Church of England Parish: ST MARKS, COLLINGWOOD Fiche: 327 Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Susan Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: SPRI Death Place: Year: 1854 Reg Number: 2949 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Thomas Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: RAGLAN Death Place: Year: 1856 Reg Number: 2120 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Sarah Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susanna CUTTS Age: Sex: Birth Place: DUNOLLY Death Place: Year: 1857 Reg Number: 3500 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Mary Ann Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: AMHERST Death Place: Year: 1859 Reg Number: 15268 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Lionel Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: GREA Death Place: Year: 1862 Reg Number: 21012 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: CUTTS, Lionel CD 206972 Death Father: Lionel Mother: Susan K Index Year: 1887 Reg Year: 1887 Reg State: New South Wales Ref Number: 10289 CUTTS LIONEL 1887 LIONEL SUSAN K COOMA 1887 10289 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Ellen Isabella Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: CATH Death Place: Year: 1864 Reg Number: 19361 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Joseph Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: ARARAT Death Place: Year: 1866 Reg Number: 19073 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Joseph Event: D Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: 1 Sex: Birth Place: SAND Death Place: Year: 1868 Reg Number: 29 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Surname: CUTTS Given Names: John Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: ARARAT Death Place: Year: 1868 Reg Number: 20890 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: (NSW Death entry) CUTTS JOHN 1937 LIONEL SUSAN LIVERPOOL 1937 12432 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Alice Maude Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: ARAR Death Place: Year: 1871 Reg Number: 13499 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Ethel Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lional Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: ARARAT Death Place: Year: 1874 Reg Number: 20486 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: Surname: CUTTS Given Names: Unnamed Female Event: B Spouse Surname/Father: Lionel Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Susan KELLY Age: Sex: Birth Place: GLEN THOMP Death Place: Year: 1877 Reg Number: 22617 Denomination: Parish: Fiche: I wonder if this is suppose to be the marriage of Alice Maude, with the "H" transcribed incorrectly. CUTTS ALICE H FEMALE 1892 ROBINSON JAMES MALE HELENSBURGH 1892 4214 The NSW death entry below for Alice Robinson would certainly appear to be one of your family; and the Alice shown above. ROBINSON ALICE MAUD 1939 LIONEL SUSAN ROZELLE 1939 18145 Regards, Dorne Saunders (Australia) [email protected] *GENEALOGY LOOKUPS* - putting families together - ANTI VIRUS INSTALLED ******************************* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lesley Bayston" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:13 AM Subject: [CUTTS] Fw: cutts history > > *** This is a forwarded message ***