Hi Listers, Still working at trying to build up family groups and link them. In 1881 at Fritchley, - a small village bordering Crich, Derbys, there is a John Cutts, FWK, age 69. b. c.1811 at Nottingham married to an Alice........Seamstress, 50, born Crich. Children Thomas, 22, Herbert, 21, William,16, Emily, 12, and Benjamin, 7. all b. Crich. Does anyone have the date of the marriage of John to Alice circa 1850+. Or any other knowledge of this family? In particular I would like to find John's parentage... It would seem to fit the marriage of John Cutts of Sandiacre, to Hannah Wheatcroft of Crich at Crich in 1810 - but they later had another son named John Wheatcroft Cutts b.1820, so maybe not. TIA Mavis

Hi Again, Here is some census for the CUTTS that Brenda kindly sent to me. Hope they help someone. Sarah Subject: Re: [Notts] Basford 1851 and 1841 lookup offer HO 107/2127 1851 Basford page 130; Park Lane George Cutts 28 FWK Sith Notts, Hucknall Maria wife 29 glove seamer Notts, Trowell Elizabeth dau 14 glove seamer Notts, Basford John son 12 winder Notts, Basford Francis son 8 Notts, Basford William son 1 Notts, Basford William Rickett lodger 19 FWK Notts, Hucknall page 217; King Street Charles Allkin 44 FWK gloves silk Derby Elizabeth wife 35 Notts, Radford Emma dau 9 scholar Notts, Basford Ann dau 6 Notts, Basford Charles Cutts lodger 48 FWK gloves silk Notts, Basford page 235; North Street James Cutts 33 coal miner Notts, Basford Caroline wife 32 Notts, Basford Elisabeth dau 13 Notts, Allerton Charles son 11 bleacher Notts, Bilborough Fredrick son 9 scholar Notts, Kimberly William son 7 scholar Notts, Kimberly John son 8 mo Notts, Basford page 258; Church Street Joseph Cutts 40 hose trimmer Notts, Basford Mary wife 42 sewer Notts, Hucknall Thomas son 14 hose trimmer Notts, Basford Reakin ? son 11 hose turner Notts, Basford William son 9 errand boy Notts, Basford Mary Ann dau 6 scholar Notts, Basford Ann Barton niece 19 ironer? Notts, Basford Richard Rose married lodger 44 shoe mender Nottingham, St Mary's page 258; Duncombe Ct John Cutts 31 coal miner Notts, Bleasby Sarah wife 24 glove sewer Notts, Beeston page 297; New Basford; George Street Mary Cutts widow 63 ____dress Lester, Foxou?? Mary dau 22 lace mender Notts, Basford Hannah dau 20 lace mender Notts, Basford

Hi Gang, I have sent your letters to Brenda and thanks for your help . I shall keep you all informed of any progress. Sarah in Helpringham, Lincs researching DENHAM,CUTTS,MILLS,COXON of Nottingham, and KELLY of Nottingham and Ireland List admin for [email protected] and [email protected] Volunteer BMD transcriber http://freebmd.rootsweb.com New related website for Hartshorns of Arnold, Nottingham: www.hartshorns.com

Any indication he came to America. I have ancester named John but don't have his origin. Harry Cutts

Dear Sarah, I have come across the Rowland name and wondered how it fitted in with the Cutts lines. I did not have the George Cutts marriage at Bleasby, so thanks. Although not in Cutts actual families the following is the note I had made that ROWLAND must be relevant 1. A Thomas Rowland Stout b.c. 1870 Basford , son of Thomas and ann Stout (nee Mellors) brother in law of Grace Cutts who married Charles Stout of Bulwell. (Grace Cutts b. 1811is brother of my John Cutts b.1801). 2. An Ellen Rowland of Kirkby m. John Cutts of Pinxton 3. George Cutts b.c.1885 (I think Eastwood) married Lettie Martin and had a daughter Nora Winifred Cutts b. 1920 . She married an Alexander Rowland Harrison. This family belongs to Donna Bowley, but unfortunately she is not on e-mail. I would be pleased to hear of the other Rowlands that Brenda has to see if they connect to any other names. Regards, Mavis

Hi Everyone, Had this sent to me yesterday, now the name is ringing a bell but I can't put my finger on it can anyone else help. Thanks Sarah ----- Original Message ----- Sarah, I have a question about your CUTTS family. Do you know anything of a George Cutts that married Jane Rowland Sept 1808 in Bleasby, Notts? I have been searching for Rowlands, specifically Jane Rowland probably born about 1803 that married John Ford 1825 in Basford. I can't find her so I've been copying about everything I find on Rowlands. Brenda

Hi - for those with Radford area Cutts relatives: I have a William Cutts. b.c.1813 at Bilborough an Enginer Feeder at the Lace Factory in 1861, living at Park Street, Lenton, in 1861 census. He was then married to a Mary b. Wollaton c. 1812. There are two possibilities:- Wm. Cutts m. Mary Slack at Wollaton 25.4.1831 or William Cutts m. Mary Needham 3.4.1834 Nottingham. Can anyone prove/disprove either of these marriages please from their own researches. I have drafted a family for William and Mary Cutts: 1. John b.c. 1873 at Wollaton - later at New Radford. On 12.2. 1877 he was mentioned in the Probate of William Cutts, 36 Mount St., Engineer, died 24.1.1877 poo to John Cutts, New Radford, Provision Dealer, son of deceased, and Samuel Cockayne Tomlinson, Schoolmaster, of Wrotham, Kent. A Memorial Index might show where this William was buried - probably General or Church Cemetery 2. Elizabeth, b.c. 1840 Whitwick, (Nr. Ashby de la Zouch) 3. Enoch, b.c. 1845 Whitwick, 4. Mary Ann, b.c. 1850 Whitwick, 5. Emmeline/Emily b.c. 1858 Lenton 1871census at 7 Hutchinson St. St. Marys, 3529/59 Just William, Mary and Emmaline. I am inclined to think that this William b. c.1813 is the son of William Cutts bapt.8.6.1773 Arnold, grandson of William Cutts and Mary Leaper, and gt. grandson of John Cutts and Hannah Wakefield. I believe he married Elizabeth Brown, b.c. 1774 at Draycott (bapt 4.7.1774 Wilne) at Bingham on 14 January 1795. William and Elizabeth were living at StrettonYard, Radford in 1841 living close to Thomas Cutts (Boatman) This would seem to indicate canal-connected families. As you are all aware, these Radford Cutts are a pesky lot, particularly the ones who seem fairly regularly to have gone 'walkabouts' along the canal routes... All suggestions welcome. Thanks Mavis

alcie was my gggrandfather and the information i have just says he married a miss cutts in wake county, they had five children Alcie,Joseph banks,Hannah,Nancy, and lucille. I believe there may be other cordells in johnston county which may be related to alcie, I found a Harman and a Cammel cordell in the 1800 census of Johnston County. If you have any other information on the cordell in Johnston county please email [email protected]

Hi again, I am re-sending the following message as there appeared to be a problem with the link. I have just uploaded over 30 CUTTS marriages at Bolsover, Derbyshire 1757 - 1882 to my CUTTS web pages, together with a couple of baptisms which were missed off my last update. These can be seen at:- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brianfjohnson/Cutts/Cutts-Records.htm Brian.

I have just uploaded over 30 CUTTS marriages at Bolsover, Derbyshire 1757 - 1882 to my CUTTS web pages, together with a couple of baptisms which were missed off my last update. These can be seen at:-http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~brianfjohnson/Cutts/Cutts-Records.htm Brian.

Can anyone tell me if there was a burial of a John Cutts, Yeoman of Southwell, in August 1800, at St. Mary's Nottingham? His Will was written 31.7.1800 and executed 21st August 1800, at Southwell. I believe he had three wives: 1. Mary, marriage not yet known. buried 27.3.1770 at Southwell Minster. 2. Ann Symon,of Brough, Notts. married 5.11.1777, (entered both at Southwell and St. Marys Nottingham) buried 15.3.1789 Southwell Minster. 3. Elizabeth Cheetham, married 17.3.1791 St. Mary's Nottingham. buried 26.7.1813 age 68, at Southwell Minster. I have looked for the burial of John and not found any at Southwell, Mansfield, Blidworth, Winkburn, Halam or Bleasley. This John Cutts had links with Hykeham, Lincs, Halam and Edingley, Notts, Papplewick, Notts., Arnold, Notts., Stapleford, Lincs., Over, Cambs and Shudy Camps, Cambs (Note: - Any information, on any John Cutts is welcomed. I have been trying for nearly ten years to find the baptism of MY John Cutts b.c.1778 at Arnold (as stated in 1851 census) and have not yet been able to confirm his parents with any certainty. There are many Johns in Notts/Derbys area at this time) Thanks in advance. Mavis

In his Will of 1800, John Cutts Yeoman of Southwell made a bequest to Elizabeth Greensmith of Arnold. Is anyone researching this Greensmith family? It is quite possible that she was nee Cutts, but to date I have not seen any marriage of an Elizabeth Cutts to a Mr. Greensmith. Any information would be welcome. Thank you. Mavis

Rebeckah Cutts was baptised 16 May 1741 at Arnold and married to John Oxspring at St. Nicholas' Church, Nottingham on 19th June, 1764. Does anyone have details of the Oxspring family? In particular the burial details for Rebeckah Oxspring? TIA Mavis

Thanks for the suggestions Mavis - any help much appreciated. I have just found another clue - an Elijah CUTTS bought a grave [mid 1800's] for my CUTTS family in Coventry - he wasn't from Coventry so was likely a rich relation. There were Elijah's from Derbys. With a religious slant, incl. Aaron, Derbys is my 'favourite' link so far. Also, the original CUTTS in Coventry was Joseph CUTTS born abt.1754 - he was an apprenticed 'Cutter' Swordsmith/Gunsmith so must be on apprenticeship rolls somewhere [not Coventry]. There was a Joseph CUTTS born Derbys abt that time in Derbys. I also think many people [unknowingly] move house to live amongst their 'roots' - probably why as a Coventry Kid, I'm now down here in Cornwall [WILLIAMS - slater/tilers, no Welsh roots found] I have a Coventry cousin who has lived all his life near Chesterfield, Derbys - he feels 'at home' there - I note many CUTTS were from that area and were 'Cutters'. Kind regards, William HARTLEY http://www.hartley-family.org.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: Mavis Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 15 July 2001 11:29 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [CUTTS] Coventry CUTTS - Re: Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry. Hi William, Aaron is a not very common name among the Cutts.CUTTS, there are only 4 shown in the 1881 census East Midlands area, and 6 nationally - see below. I would place a bet that they came from Derbyshire via Staffordshire; we are finding more connections in the Staffordshire area which we had previously not known about. Do not ignore the canal connections which would afford opportunities to travel cheaply. Good luck. Mavis 1881 Census National Index CUTTS, Aaron Head <1830> Staf Derb CUTTS, Aaron Head <1857> Lanc Cumb CUTTS, Aaron Lodg <1860> Derb Nott CUTTS, Aaron Neph <1861> Derb Derb CUTTS, Aaron Son <1874> Staf Derb CUTTS, Aaron Son <1876> York Yor ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 15 July 2001 09:28 Subject: [CUTTS] Coventry CUTTS - Re: Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry. > Thanks Lesley for the Subject: [CUTTS] Fw: CUTTS - Commonwealth War Graves > Commission. > One entry for Aaron CUTTS I had missed as he lived in Coventry yet was in > the Worcestershire Regiment - he was my ggm's cousin. He was one of 11 > children - only 4 survived! Aaron died at the Somme, 2 years after his > father's sudden death. His father had been an apprenticed Watchmaker, later > a pallet maker, finally a chimney sweep. His wife survived him well into the > 1930's - this prompted my memory - my mum talked of the CUTTS family often. > I've managed to remember a few more vital details to go on the family tree. > It's good to see the pieces fit together yet I still can't find where the > single Coventry CUTTS line originated. Sheffield? Nottingham? London? > Keep up the fab work Lesley and all at [email protected] > Kind regards, William HARTLEY > http://www.hartley-family.org.uk/ > > > > ==== CUTTS Mailing List ==== > If you would like to place information in the tag lines section of > e-mail postings, please contact Listowner at [email protected] > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > >

Hi again Lesley The CUTTS in Coventry are all from one family, originating from Joseph who was born abt 1754 - he was an apprenticed 'Cutter' Swordsmith/Gunsmith so must be on an apprenticeship roll somewhere, not Coventry though. When he came to Coventry in the 1770's he married a local girl. I've found likely Josephs in Derbys and Notts but can't get any further as I'm stranded here in Cornwall!! Ah well, plenty to look for in the meantime on the Internet. I now have a strong lead with an Elijah CUTTS - he bought a grave for my CUTTS family in Coventry but didn't live there - he may be from Derbys - rare name. Joseph/Elijah/Aaron pretty relgious stuff! Kind regards, William HARTLEY http://www.hartley-family.org.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: Lesley Bayston [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 15 July 2001 22:43 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Coventry CUTTS - Re: Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry. Hi William Thank you for your message, but I feel a fraud! It is John Frawley who's doing all the work. John phoned me as he was having problems getting the messages to leave his Outbox. To try and solve the problem he forwarded them to me to see if I could send them to the list. As he can send other messages, and I managed to send them to the list, then the hiccup must be at his end. Unfortunately as I've tried to contact him several times in the last week and heard nothing, ..... Thank goodness we still have telephones for when emails fail! Can I look anything up at all for you? I felt out on a limb with my Pinxton Cutts, but I've now managed to link them into Jim Cutts's,but not until about the 1600s. We've had quite a few new subscribers (now over 50 in total) so you may be lucky and find someone else looking in the Coventry area. I'll pass your thanks on to John. Best Wishes Lesley ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Lesley Bayston" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 9:28 AM Subject: Coventry CUTTS - Re: Commonwealth War Graves Commission entry. > Thanks Lesley for the Subject: [CUTTS] Fw: CUTTS - Commonwealth War Graves > Commission. > One entry for Aaron CUTTS I had missed as he lived in Coventry yet was in > the Worcestershire Regiment - he was my ggm's cousin. He was one of 11 > children - only 4 survived! Aaron died at the Somme, 2 years after his > father's sudden death. His father had been an apprenticed Watchmaker, later > a pallet maker, finally a chimney sweep. His wife survived him well into the > 1930's - this prompted my memory - my mum talked of the CUTTS family often. > I've managed to remember a few more vital details to go on the family tree. > It's good to see the pieces fit together yet I still can't find where the > single Coventry CUTTS line originated. Sheffield? Nottingham? London? > Keep up the fab work Lesley and all at [email protected] > Kind regards, William HARTLEY > http://www.hartley-family.org.uk/ > > >

Hi Everyone: I just joined this list. Lesley Bayston e-mailed me about the list I found my info. from the LDS center database a couple years ago. And I think it was Rod Neep (a far distant cousin) who saw some of the same info. while he was looking on the Townsend name. My g-g-grandfather was named EDWARD CUTTS TOWNSEND. His grandfather EDMOND TOWNSEND:born 1/22/1748, married ELIZABETH CUTTS: born 12/25/1754, married 11/15/1774 ELIZABETH CUTTS parents: JOHN CUTTS: born 10/12/1719, Cam England ELIZABETH NAILEL: born ??? married in Clowne, Derby, England JOHN CUTTS parents: JONATHAN B. CUTTS: born ??? HANNAH ??????: born ??? married: ???? ROD NEEP also noticed that the name CUTT & CUTTER, CUTTLEBUCK, all seemed to be in the same area as CLUTTERBUCK. Maybe all 4 names were from the same families. Looking for connections, etc. Thanks for your time Rodd

Thanks Lesley for the Subject: [CUTTS] Fw: CUTTS - Commonwealth War Graves Commission. One entry for Aaron CUTTS I had missed as he lived in Coventry yet was in the Worcestershire Regiment - he was my ggm's cousin. He was one of 11 children - only 4 survived! Aaron died at the Somme, 2 years after his father's sudden death. His father had been an apprenticed Watchmaker, later a pallet maker, finally a chimney sweep. His wife survived him well into the 1930's - this prompted my memory - my mum talked of the CUTTS family often. I've managed to remember a few more vital details to go on the family tree. It's good to see the pieces fit together yet I still can't find where the single Coventry CUTTS line originated. Sheffield? Nottingham? London? Keep up the fab work Lesley and all at [email protected] Kind regards, William HARTLEY http://www.hartley-family.org.uk/

I have discovered that John CUTTS, 'of the parish of Sandiacre' in 1810 at the time of his marriage to Hannah Wheatcroft at Crich, was at that time described as a 'Book-keeper'. Later at the time of the baptism in 1813 of his son, Abraham Henry CUTTS at Ilkeston Wesleyan Methodist Circuit, his occupation was given as "Collector of Tonnages over Derby Canal". In 1816 in the Watch and Ward Lists, he was aged 27, described as a Wharfinger of Canal Street,St. Mary's parish, Nottingham. Abraham Henry Cutts was a Cornfactor at Cheetham Hill in Manchester in 1841 until his death shortly afterwards. I have been informed that this Collector of Tonnages "would have "gauged" the boats, i.e measured how low the boats sat in the water and from this, with the help of tables, calculated the weight of cargo and charged the appropriate toll. Different cargos attracted different tolls." Since this occupation was found in the Ilkeston Circuit Wesleyan Methodist records it is obviously worth searching out the original records - previously I had only looked at the Indexes on the RO shelves - a short-cut which prevented me from the full information available. A Wheatcroft researcher, checking my information for his own family discovered the full entry and kindly passed it over to me... Mavis Mavis

As I have extracted most of the census entries for Notts. from the 1841/51/61/71 censuses, and I also have the 1881 CDs, and just a few of the 1891 census extracts, I may be able to help you find your Cutts family. During the course of my researches for the elusive baptism of my John Cutts circa 1778 supposedly born at Arnold, I have compiled family groups of many of the Cutts. Unfortunately many of them use the same set of christian names for their offspring which makes it all very confusing...... Please contact me off list if you think I may be able to help you. Mavis

Hi David, There is no real list protocol so no need to apologise. I always post my response back to the list so everyone can see where I am. Plus you never know if any new members have joined and it could be the one you are looking for. I also class myself as new to Genealogy , but you will find a lot of people are more than happy to guide you in the right direction, and believe me I have had a lot of Guidance..... Happy hunting Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Cutts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2001 4:45 AM Subject: [CUTTS] Henry James [WAS: [CUTTS] Fw: Subscribe] Hi, Firstly, my apologies if this response should have been directed either "off-list" or via Lesley. Any advice on list protocol is welcome. I've been "lurking" on this list for months but so far I've not responded to roll-calls because I'm embarrassingly new to genealogy and I can't decide how best to précis my family history. Oh, procrastination!