This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChicaCubana Surnames: Criner, Kopp, Chirolet, Quilleron Classification: birth Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/11143/mb.ashx Message Board Post: According to his birth certificate, my great grandfather, Carlos Alejandro Criner y Garcia, was born in Manguito, Mantazas, Cuba on April 4, 1909. His birth certificate also states that his father, Arturo Criner y Kopp, was a native of France who renounced his Spanish (but not French?) citizenship and had declared his intention to become a Cuban citizen. The certificate also states that Arturo's parents, Bartolome Criner y Quilleron and Elisa Kopp Chirolet, were both natives of France. It is further mentioned that Elisa was a resident of St. Etienne, France. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.