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    1. Re: Corzo �D�nde en Cuba?

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: meljon916 Surnames: Yanet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/513.2924.2925.3456/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hola mi nombre es Yanet Calvi soy de cuba pero radico ahora en los Estados Unidos, Miami, Fl se que mi papa vio personalmente unos de los sables y sombreros que un miembro de la familia guarda como patrimonio personal de los Calvi y si era de un corzario.Pero me gustaria saber mas sobre el origen de nuestro apellido. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/09/2011 04:03:42
    1. Re: [CUBA] MANSO CONTRERAS FAMILY TREE

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: meljon916 Surnames: Yanet Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/543.2117.2303.2793.2989.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hola mi nombre es Yanet Calvis Contreras soy de Cuba pero ahora radico aqui en Miami, Fl pero se que pertenesco a esta gran familia, Siempre he querido saber mas sobre nuestras raicez, un gran saludo y bendiciones. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/09/2011 03:56:55
    1. Re: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. Alex Hernandez

    3. Yeah, I agree the Moroccan signature in my DNA is definitely Berber, both from the Moorish ocupation of Spain and the Guanches. The Native American is surely Taino or Ciboney. On the Philippines signature. If it were Chinese it wuould've come our East Asian, but South East Asain-Pacific Islander is mostly likely Filipino. Alex On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Mike Gonzalez <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> wrote: > I've been away in the Scottish Highlands, without coverage and haven't been > able to contribute to this interesting debate. I continue to doubt the > theory about Filipinos in Pinar, or at least in great numbers. I will do > more research and get back. Chinese, yes, and they did come from the > Philippines, where there are millions of Chinese, but only in the 19th > century, if I remember correctly. But not ethnic Filipinos. Never heard of > it. Guane is thought to come from pre-Columbian Indians, and the sound is > one one hears all over Cuba--Guanatabyes, for example. > > On the DNA makeup, your "Moroccan" is very, very likely to be Berber, most > probably from the eight centuries of Moorish rule, or perhaps from the > troops Hannibal brought over. You got these from Spain as well. Oz is > right about the Guanches, BTW: also Berber. > > mike > > Sent from my iPad > > On 6 Aug 2011, at 09:22, Alex Hernandez <alexthoth@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks for the history lesson. My Hernandez branch (my direct line) is > > descended from the Canary Islands (Las Palmas de Gran Canaria) there is > no > > genetic evidence for the Guanches being descended from Vikings on the > > contrary there was plenty of genetic evidence but in genetic research and > in > > Isleños own genetic genealogy test that the native of the Canary Islands > > were related to the Berber groups of North Africa. > > > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, oz hernandez <oswaldo1129@yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > >> Mike: > >> > >> To the best of my knowledge, the first geography book on > >> Cuba was written by a "de la Torre", who I am distantly > >> related to (in those days there were two "de la Torre" > >> families in Cuba, the Havana line (genetically), and the > >> Puerto Príncipe (later Camaguey line. In those days, > >> in the late 1600s I believe, but will check it out, these > >> two lines, were very close (first cousins), but once in > >> Cuba slowly drifted apart, and then they came very > >> close once again. I too was very surprised when > >> I first found out about Pinar del Rio being first called > >> Provincia ó Territorio de la Nueva Filipinas (ahora no > >> recuerdo exactamente si era provincia ó territorio, > >> I was also very surprised. Eventually, a very large > >> number of Spaniards from Islas Canarias migrated > >> to Cuba, and settled in the Provinces of Pinar del > >> Rio and Las Villas. A "bunch" of us have some > >> type of genealogical connection to the "Isleños". > >> By the way, don't laugh too much with this one, > >> but it took the "castellanos/Castillians" about two > >> centuries to conquer the Canary Islands. The > >> conquest was going on when Christopher > >> Columbus headed West to the Bahamas, Cuba, > >> Hispaniola, and the other islands of the > >> Caribbean. I am quite certain that the ferocious > >> resistance that the Canarians showed against > >> the Castellanos, the Galicians, the Asturians, > >> the Catalonians, and all other ethnic elements > >> of the Iberian invasion, was because the > >> Canarios were biologically descendants of, or > >> Vikings themselves. What the historical > >> evidence shows, is tha the Canary Islands > >> served for a period of about 400 years, as the > >> Viking trading center with some regions of > >> Africa. I used to think that the reason for so > >> many Canarians to be very light-skinned and > >> with blue eyes was because the Castillian/ > >> Iberian invasion had many Spaniards from > >> the northern region if Spain, but I now > >> "theorize" that it was due to the Scandi- > >> navian genetic influence of the Canarians. > >> > >> And to "top off" my genetic theories, if > >> we read carefully the writings of Alfonso > >> X of León, better known as Alfonso El > >> Sabio (the Wise One), we will have to con- > >> cude that in reality the origin of the Goths > >> (Visigoths) who invaded Spain after > >> making mincemeat of what was left of > >> the Western Roman Empire, and sacking > >> Rome in 500-something (Rome had truly > >> abused them), were not of Germanic > >> origin or stock, but originated instead > >> in a southern Sweden tribe, which > >> began a quasi-migration and basically > >> took control of the largest island in the > >> Baltic Sea, curiously enough, nowadays > >> kown as Gotland (can't remember of it's > >> one or two "t"s, and it is too late for me > >> to be looking. These Scandinavians, in > >> about 1600 decided to cross the Baltic, > >> and began conquering all the region > >> which now is part of the countries of > >> Lithuania, Estonia, Prussia, part of > >> Poland, and Belorussia....... > >> > >> I am falling sleep, so i'll have to make > >> contact with you at another time. > >> > >> Sín mas por el momento, quedo de > >> ti, atentamente. > >> > >> Oswaldo F. Hernández-Campos > >> Asheville, North Carolina > >> > >> > >> > >> --- On Fri, 8/5/11, gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> wrote: > >> > >> From: gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> > >> Subject: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas? > >> To: cuba@rootsweb.com, CUBA@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 5:15 AM > >> > >> A great deal of my dally is also from Pinar and I've read a lot of it's > >> history and I've never come across this. I've also been to the > Philippnes a > >> lot. > >> ========================================== > >> To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > >> answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > >> ~~~~~~ > >> Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > >> conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > >> ========================================== > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> ========================================== > >> To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > >> answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > >> ~~~~~~ > >> Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > >> conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > >> ========================================== > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > ========================================== > > To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > > ~~~~~~ > > Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > > ========================================== > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > ========================================== > To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > ~~~~~~ > Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > ========================================== > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    08/09/2011 08:56:17
    1. Re: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. Mike Gonzalez

    3. I've been away in the Scottish Highlands, without coverage and haven't been able to contribute to this interesting debate. I continue to doubt the theory about Filipinos in Pinar, or at least in great numbers. I will do more research and get back. Chinese, yes, and they did come from the Philippines, where there are millions of Chinese, but only in the 19th century, if I remember correctly. But not ethnic Filipinos. Never heard of it. Guane is thought to come from pre-Columbian Indians, and the sound is one one hears all over Cuba--Guanatabyes, for example. On the DNA makeup, your "Moroccan" is very, very likely to be Berber, most probably from the eight centuries of Moorish rule, or perhaps from the troops Hannibal brought over. You got these from Spain as well. Oz is right about the Guanches, BTW: also Berber. mike Sent from my iPad On 6 Aug 2011, at 09:22, Alex Hernandez <alexthoth@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the history lesson. My Hernandez branch (my direct line) is > descended from the Canary Islands (Las Palmas de Gran Canaria) there is no > genetic evidence for the Guanches being descended from Vikings on the > contrary there was plenty of genetic evidence but in genetic research and in > Isleños own genetic genealogy test that the native of the Canary Islands > were related to the Berber groups of North Africa. > > On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, oz hernandez <oswaldo1129@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Mike: >> >> To the best of my knowledge, the first geography book on >> Cuba was written by a "de la Torre", who I am distantly >> related to (in those days there were two "de la Torre" >> families in Cuba, the Havana line (genetically), and the >> Puerto Príncipe (later Camaguey line. In those days, >> in the late 1600s I believe, but will check it out, these >> two lines, were very close (first cousins), but once in >> Cuba slowly drifted apart, and then they came very >> close once again. I too was very surprised when >> I first found out about Pinar del Rio being first called >> Provincia ó Territorio de la Nueva Filipinas (ahora no >> recuerdo exactamente si era provincia ó territorio, >> I was also very surprised. Eventually, a very large >> number of Spaniards from Islas Canarias migrated >> to Cuba, and settled in the Provinces of Pinar del >> Rio and Las Villas. A "bunch" of us have some >> type of genealogical connection to the "Isleños". >> By the way, don't laugh too much with this one, >> but it took the "castellanos/Castillians" about two >> centuries to conquer the Canary Islands. The >> conquest was going on when Christopher >> Columbus headed West to the Bahamas, Cuba, >> Hispaniola, and the other islands of the >> Caribbean. I am quite certain that the ferocious >> resistance that the Canarians showed against >> the Castellanos, the Galicians, the Asturians, >> the Catalonians, and all other ethnic elements >> of the Iberian invasion, was because the >> Canarios were biologically descendants of, or >> Vikings themselves. What the historical >> evidence shows, is tha the Canary Islands >> served for a period of about 400 years, as the >> Viking trading center with some regions of >> Africa. I used to think that the reason for so >> many Canarians to be very light-skinned and >> with blue eyes was because the Castillian/ >> Iberian invasion had many Spaniards from >> the northern region if Spain, but I now >> "theorize" that it was due to the Scandi- >> navian genetic influence of the Canarians. >> >> And to "top off" my genetic theories, if >> we read carefully the writings of Alfonso >> X of León, better known as Alfonso El >> Sabio (the Wise One), we will have to con- >> cude that in reality the origin of the Goths >> (Visigoths) who invaded Spain after >> making mincemeat of what was left of >> the Western Roman Empire, and sacking >> Rome in 500-something (Rome had truly >> abused them), were not of Germanic >> origin or stock, but originated instead >> in a southern Sweden tribe, which >> began a quasi-migration and basically >> took control of the largest island in the >> Baltic Sea, curiously enough, nowadays >> kown as Gotland (can't remember of it's >> one or two "t"s, and it is too late for me >> to be looking. These Scandinavians, in >> about 1600 decided to cross the Baltic, >> and began conquering all the region >> which now is part of the countries of >> Lithuania, Estonia, Prussia, part of >> Poland, and Belorussia....... >> >> I am falling sleep, so i'll have to make >> contact with you at another time. >> >> Sín mas por el momento, quedo de >> ti, atentamente. >> >> Oswaldo F. Hernández-Campos >> Asheville, North Carolina >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 8/5/11, gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> wrote: >> >> From: gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> >> Subject: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas? >> To: cuba@rootsweb.com, CUBA@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 5:15 AM >> >> A great deal of my dally is also from Pinar and I've read a lot of it's >> history and I've never come across this. I've also been to the Philippnes a >> lot. >> ========================================== >> To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your >> answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. >> ~~~~~~ >> Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que >> conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. >> ========================================== >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> ========================================== >> To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your >> answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. >> ~~~~~~ >> Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que >> conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. >> ========================================== >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > ========================================== > To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > ~~~~~~ > Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > ========================================== > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/09/2011 08:37:44
    1. Re: [CUBA] Proenza

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EProenza Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/11012.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Though I know my grandfather spoke English he died in Cuba and my Father did not come to the states until the mid 60's. I've also been told my grandfather had a sister that lived in France and that he was or his mother was originally from the Canary Islands. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/09/2011 02:08:46
    1. [CUBA] Cozier's in Cuba (from Barbados (St Lucy) and Nevis, West Indies

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: familywalterscozier Surnames: Cozier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/11140/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am researching family who have travelled from Barbados via a stay in Nevis in the early 1900's. Not all the Coziers who were in Nevis moved on to Cuba, bus some did. I am seeking such Cozier offspring and also advice of how to explore Cuban civil registration. C Walters, Caribbean Family History Group - Solihull& Birmingham, England Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/07/2011 07:52:53
    1. Re: [CUBA] Toranzo and Betancourt

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicubano Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/11107.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the early part of the XIX century there was a Julian Jose Ruiz-Toranzo y Castellanos in Oriente, Cuba. In 1815 he married Maria Ildefonsa Pupo y de los Reyes. I have a birth date for Julian of 1787. I have no further info. Nicolas. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/07/2011 09:02:27
    1. Re: [CUBA] Cordona, Chacon, Gomez de Molina,

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nicubano Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/11077.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I suppose Rosa Cardona to be the sister of Pedro Cardona y Gomez de Molina, son of Federico Cardona y de la Torre and Teresa Gomez de Molina y Masson. Ancestors of Pedro Cardona y Gómez de Molina Generation No. 1 1. Pedro Cardona y Gómez de Molina (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 86.), born cir 1866 in Cuba.. He was the son of 2. Federico Cardona y de la Torre and 3. Teresa Gómez de Molina y Masson. He married (1) María-Concepción Gómez de Molina y Arriaza (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 145.) in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 145.). She was born in Cuba.. She was the daughter of Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Masson and María-Concepción Arriaza y García de los Reyes. He married (2) Filomena Encinoso de Abreu y Romero (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana,! Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 86.) 21 November 1891 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 86.). She was born cir 1871 in Cuba.. She was the daughter of Agustín Encinoso de Abreu y Sotolongo and Filomena Romero y Cárdenas. Generation No. 2 2. Federico Cardona y de la Torre (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.), born cir 1839 in Cuba.. He was the son of 4. Federico Cardona y Vivas and 5. María-del-Carmen González de la Torre y Ugarte*. He married 3. Teresa Gómez de Molina y Masson 15 October 1864 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.). 3. Teresa Gómez de Molina y Masson (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.), born cir 1844 in Cayajabos, Pinar del Río, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.). She was the daughter of 6. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Cabrera and 7. Luisa Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux. Child of Federico Cardona y de la Torre and Teresa Gómez de Molina y Masson is: 1 i. Pedro Cardona y Gómez de Molina, born cir 1866 in Cuba; married (1) María-Concepción Gómez de Molina y Arriaza in Cuba.; married (2) Filomena Encinoso de Abreu y Romero 21 November 1891 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. Generation No. 3 4. Federico Cardona y Vivas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.). He married 5. María-del-Carmen González de la Torre y Ugarte* (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.). 5. María-del-Carmen González de la Torre y Ugarte* (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba.. She was the daughter of 10. Raimundo González de la Torre y Soublette and 11. Lucila de Ugarte. More About Federico Cardona y Vivas: Dato 1: Subteniente de Milicias. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 146.) Child of Federico Cardona y Vivas and María-del-Carmen González de la Torre y Ugarte* is: 2 i. Federico Cardona y de la Torre, born cir 1839 in Cuba; married Teresa Gómez de Molina y Masson 15 October 1864 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. 6. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Cabrera He was the son of 12. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Fdez de Chinchilla and 13. Teresa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso. He married 7. Luisa Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.). 7. Luisa Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux She was the daughter of 14. Florimonde Masson and 15. Genevieve Treyller de Sainte-Creux. Children of Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Cabrera and Luisa Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux are: i. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Masson, born 1840 in Cayajabos, Pinar del Río, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.). More About Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Masson: Bautizo: 11 May 1840, parr. San Francisco Xavier, Cayajabos. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.) ii. Antonio Gómez de Molina y Masson, born 1843 in Cayajabos, Pinar del Río, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.); married Eugenia Arriaza y García de los Reyes (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.); born cir 1848. More About Antonio Gómez de Molina y Masson: Bautizo: 24 February 1843, parr. San Francisco Xavier, Cayajabos. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.) 3 iii. Teresa Gómez de Molina y Masson, born cir 1844 in Cayajabos, Pinar del Río, Cuba; married Federico Cardona y de la Torre 15 October 1864 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. Generation No. 4 10. Raimundo González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba.. He was the son of 20. Francisco González de la Torre y Bassave and 21. Isabel Soublette y Manresa. He married 11. Lucila de Ugarte (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). 11. Lucila de Ugarte (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). Children of Raimundo González de la Torre y Soublette and Lucila Ugarte are: i. Lucila González de la Torre y Ugarte (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba. ii. Silvia González de la Torre y Ugarte (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba. iii. Raimundo González de la Torre y Ugarte (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba. iv. Alberto González de la Torre y Ugarte (Source: (1) Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180., (2) Joaquín de Posada, Anuario de Familias Cubanas, 1982, p. 1274.), born in Cuba; married Margarita Fernández de la Reguera y Ortíz (Source: Joaquín de Posada, Anuario de Familias Cubanas, 1982, p. 1274.). 5 v. María-del-Carmen González de la Torre y Ugarte*, born in Cuba; married Federico Cardona y Vivas. 12. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Fdez de Chinchilla, born cir 1774 in Málaga, España.. He was the son of 24. Diego Gómez de Molina y Méndez de Sotomayor and 25. Ana Fernández de Chinchilla. He married 13. Teresa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso 16 January 1799 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.). 13. Teresa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, born cir 1779. She was the daughter of 26. Miguel Cabrera y Álvarez de Abreu and 27. María-Luisa Loreto de Palma-Beloso y Chacón. More About Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Fdez de Chinchilla: Fact 2: Capitán y Alférez del Regimiento de Cantabria. Children of Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Fdez de Chinchilla and Teresa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso are: i. Miguel Gómez de Molina y Cabrera, died 13 May 1852 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.); married Micaela Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.); born in Cayajabos, Pinar del Río, Cuba.. More About Miguel Gómez de Molina y Cabrera: Fact 2: Caballero Maestrante de la Real Ronda. Testó: 11 May 1852, ante Joaquín Trujillo. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.) 6 ii. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Cabrera, married Luisa Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux. iii. José María Gómez de Molina y Cabrera, born cir 1809; died 7 September 1863 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 146.); married Crispina Bonilla y Cabrera 1834 (Source: Santa Cruz, IV, p. 102.); born cir 1814; died 17 June 1880 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, IV, p. 102.). More About José María Gómez de Molina y Cabrera: Fact 2: Caballero Maestrante de la Real Ronda. More About Crispina Bonilla y Cabrera: Testó: 6 February 1878, ante José Gamboa. (Source: Santa Cruz, IV, p. 102.) 14. Florimonde Masson He married 15. Genevieve Treyller de Sainte-Creux. 15. Genevieve Treyller de Sainte-Creux Children of Florimonde Masson and Genevieve Treyller de Sainte-Creux are: i. Micaela Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux, born in Cayajabos, Pinar del Río, Cuba; married Miguel Gómez de Molina y Cabrera (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.); died 13 May 1852 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.). More About Miguel Gómez de Molina y Cabrera: Fact 2: Caballero Maestrante de la Real Ronda. Testó: 11 May 1852, ante Joaquín Trujillo. (Source: Santa Cruz, VIII, p. 145.) 7 ii. Luisa Masson y Treyller de Sainte-Creux, married Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Cabrera. Generation No. 5 20. Francisco González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born 1851 in Nueva Paz, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 180.). He was the son of 40. José María González de la Torre y Armenteros and 41. María-Dolores Bassave y Ziburo. He married 21. Isabel Soublette y Manresa in Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 180.). 21. Isabel Soublette y Manresa (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born cir 1856 in Cuba.. She was the daughter of 42. Miguel Antonio Soublette y Orduña and 43. Camila Manresa y Pérez. More About Francisco González de la Torre y Bassave: Bautizo: 24 December 1851, parr. N.S. de la Paz, Nueva Paz, La Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 180.) Dato 1: Abogado, Magistrado del Tribunal Supremo de Justicia de la República de Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.) Children of Francisco González de la Torre y Bassave and Isabel Soublette y Manresa are: i. Sara González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba; married Federico Rasco y Ruíz in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.); born in Sagua la Grande, Las Villas, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). Notes for Federico Rasco y Ruíz: Jefe del Regimiento Núm. 4 (provincia de Matanzas), Jefe del Regimiento Núm. 2 (provincia de Camagüey), Jefe del Regimiento Núm. 8 (provincia de Pinar del Río). Fue destacado en el Estado Mayor de La Habana. Comandante Militar de la Plaza de La Habana. Gobernador de Santiago de Cuba, Coronel y después General de Brigada. Maribel García-Nava de Penichet, 13 julio 1999. More About Federico Rasco y Ruíz: Dato 1: Coronel del Ejército Nacional de la República de Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo V, p. 276.) ii. Elisa González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba; married Octavio Montoro y Saladrigas in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.); born in Cuba.; died Bef. 1969. More About Octavio Montoro y Saladrigas: Fact 2: Médico. iii. María-Dolores González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba; married Miguel Kohly y Embil (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.); born in Cuba.. iv. María-Luisa González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba; married Antonio Crespo y Trotcha in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). 10 v. Raimundo González de la Torre y Soublette, born in Cuba; married Lucila de Ugarte. vi. Eduardo González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba. vii. José Francisco González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba; married Otilia González (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). viii. Alberto González de la Torre y Soublette (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born in Cuba; married Consuelo Villarroya in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). 24. Diego Gómez de Molina y Méndez de Sotomayor He married 25. Ana Fernández de Chinchilla. 25. Ana Fernández de Chinchilla Child of Diego Gómez de Molina y Méndez de Sotomayor and Ana Fernández de Chinchilla is: 12 i. Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Fdez de Chinchilla, born cir 1774 in Málaga, España; married Teresa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso 16 January 1799 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. 26. Miguel Cabrera y Álvarez de Abreu, born cir 1730 in San Miguel de la Palma, Islas Canarias.. He married 27. María-Luisa Loreto de Palma-Beloso y Chacón 8 May 1755 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.). 27. María-Luisa Loreto de Palma-Beloso y Chacón, born cir 1735; died 17 January 1805 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.). She was the daughter of 54. Juan Leandro d Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal and 55. Mariana Chacón y Altaver. More About Miguel Cabrera y Álvarez de Abreu: Fact 2: Teniente de Navío de la Real Armada. More About María-Luisa Loreto de Palma-Beloso y Chacón: Testó: 5 March 1799, ante Felipe Alvarez. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.) Children of Miguel Cabrera y Álvarez de Abreu and María-Luisa Palma-Beloso y Chacón are: i. María Cabrera y Palma-Beloso More About María Cabrera y Palma-Beloso: Fact 2: Religiosa en el convento de Santa Catalina de Sena en la Habana. ii. José Cabrera y Palma-Beloso More About José Cabrera y Palma-Beloso: Fact 2: Pertenció a la Real Armada. iii. Juan Cabrera y Palma-Beloso More About Juan Cabrera y Palma-Beloso: Fact 2: Alférez de Caballería. iv. María-Josefa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, born 1756 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, V, p. 65.); married Ambrosio José Justiniani y Recio 5 April 1780 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 241 & V, p. 65.); born cir 1750; died 18 May 1816 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 241.). More About Ambrosio José Justiniani y Recio: Fact 2: Brigadier de la Real Armada. Testó: 13 May 186, ante José Salinas. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 241.) v. Miguel Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, born 1758 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, V, p. 66.); married Juana Morales y Armenteros 28 May 1785 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 229.); born cir 1765; died 25 January 1818 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 229.). More About Miguel Cabrera y Palma-Beloso: Bautizo: 11 October 1758, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, V, p. 66.) vi. Antonia Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, born cir 1777; married Ramón Pérez de Alderete y Morales 18 June 1797 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 235.); born cir 1770 in La Habana, Cuba; died 17 August 1830 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 235.). More About Ramón Pérez de Alderete y Morales: Fact 2: 1787, Ingresó en las Reales Compañias de Guardias Marinas. Fact 11: Capitán de Milicias de la plaza de la Habana. vii. María-del-Rosario Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, born cir 1778; married Alejandro Bonilla y San Juan 8 May 1797 in parr. La Purisima Concepción, Tapaste, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, IV, p. 102.); born cir 1770 in Lucerna, España.. More About Alejandro Bonilla y San Juan: Fact 2: 1791, Ingresó en la Reales Compañías de Guardias Marinas, llegando a obtener el grado Fact 11: de Alférez de Navío de la Real Armanda. Fact 12: Pasó a la Habana. 13 viii. Teresa Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, born cir 1779; married Joaquín Gómez de Molina y Fdez de Chinchilla 16 January 1799 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. ix. Mariano Cabrera y Palma-Beloso, married Josefa de Torres y Manresa 26 December 1831 in Catedral de la Habna, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, V, p. 66.). More About Mariano Cabrera y Palma-Beloso: Fact 2: Capitán de Caballería de Milicias de la plaza de la Habana. Generation No. 6 40. José María González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born cir 1820 in Cuba.. He was the son of 80. Francisco X. González de la Torre y Cárdenas and 81. Estanisláa Armenteros y San Martín. He married 41. María-Dolores Bassave y Ziburo 14 February 1847 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.). 41. María-Dolores Bassave y Ziburo (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born cir 1827 in Cuba.; died 15 April 1880 in parr. Santo Cristo, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.). She was the daughter of 82. Luis Anastasio Bassave y Cárdenas and 83. María-de-los-Angeles de Ziburu y Bassave. Children of José González de la Torre y Armenteros and María-Dolores Bassave y Ziburo are: i. M-Estanisláa González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.), born in Cuba; married Francisco Ramón de Ochoa y Pantiga (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 179.); born in Guamutas, Matanzas, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.). ii. Elena González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.), born in Cuba; married Aníbal Moltó e Izquierdo (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 179.). iii. Pedro González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.), born cir 1854 in Cuba; married María-del-Carmen González-Llorente y Torrado 15 February 1879 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de familias cubanas, (La Habana, Cuba), Tomo II, p. 179.); born cir 1859 in Cuba.; died 18 August 1936 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VIII, p. 155.). iv. Angela González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.), born cir 1851 in Cuba; married José Joaquín Fuero y de la Paz 12 January 1871 in parr. Asunción, Guanabacoa, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.); born cir 1845. More About José Joaquín Fuero y de la Paz: Dato 1: Coronel de Regimiento de Caballería de Milicias de la plaza de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.) 20 v. Francisco González de la Torre y Bassave, born 1851 in Nueva Paz, La Habana, Cuba; married Isabel Soublette y Manresa in Cuba.. vi. José María González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.), born 1854 in Guamutas, Matanzas, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.); married María-de-Jesús Varela y Fernández-Mederos 9 February 1888 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.); born cir 1868 in Cuba.. More About José María González de la Torre y Bassave: Bautizo: 6 November 1854 vii. María-Luisa González de la Torre y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.), born 14 May 1856 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.); died 7 June 1887 in Madrid, España. (Source: Burke, I, p. 495.); married Francisco Borbón y Castellvi 15 September 1877 in New York, New York, EE.UU. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 179.); born 29 March 1853 in Tolosa, España. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VII, p. 76.). More About Francisco Borbón y Castellvi: Dato 1: Teniente General de los Ejércitos Nacionales, Consejero del Tribunal Suprmeo de Guerra y Marina, Grandes Cruces de las órdenes de San Hermenegildo y del Mérito Militar, y Caballero de la Insigne Orden del Toisón de Oro. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VII, p. 76.) 42. Miguel Antonio Soublette y Orduña (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.), born cir 1825. He was the son of 84. Carlos Soublette y Piar and 85. Agueda Orduño y Fernández. He married 43. Camila Manresa y Pérez. 43. Camila Manresa y Pérez (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 180.). Child of Miguel Soublette y Orduña and Camila Manresa y Pérez is: 21 i. Isabel Soublette y Manresa, born cir 1856 in Cuba; married Francisco González de la Torre y Bassave in Cuba.. 54. Juan Leandro d Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal, born 1698 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.); died 3 April 1700 in Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.). He was the son of 108. Juan de Palma-Beloso y Morales and 109. Juana González-Carvajal y Muñoz. He married 55. Mariana Chacón y Altaver 30 October 1732 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.). 55. Mariana Chacón y Altaver, born cir 1712. She was the daughter of 110. Luis Chacón y Castellón and 111. Mariana Altaver. More About Juan Leandro d Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal: Bautizo: 21 March 1698, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 223.) Fact 2: Regidor del Ayuntamiento de la Habana en 1750 y Alcalde ordinario de la Habana Fact 11: en 1738, 1739, y 1749. Child of Juan Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal and Mariana Chacón y Altaver is: 27 i. María-Luisa Loreto de Palma-Beloso y Chacón, born cir 1735; died 17 January 1805 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba; married Miguel Cabrera y Álvarez de Abreu 8 May 1755 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. Generation No. 7 80. Francisco X. González de la Torre y Cárdenas, born cir 1788; died 23 June 1834 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.). He was the son of 160. José María González de la Torre y Urrutia and 161. Joaquina de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta. He married 81. Estanisláa Armenteros y San Martín 18 May 1813 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.). 81. Estanisláa Armenteros y San Martín, born cir 1793; died 1 September 1871 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.). She was the daughter of 162. Andrés Armenteros y Zaldívar and 163. Rosalía San Martín y Burón. More About Francisco X. González de la Torre y Cárdenas: Fact 2: Cadete de la IV Compañía del primer Batallón del Regimiento de Cuba. Testó: 22 June 1834, ante Félix Lancís (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.) Children of Francisco González de la Torre y Cárdenas and Estanisláa Armenteros y San Martín are: i. M-Mercedes González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.), born in Cuba. ii. Nicolasa González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p 176.), born in Cuba. iii. Rosalía González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.), born in Cuba. iv. María-Josefa González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.), born in Cuba.; died 2 August 1866 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.); married Paulino Fernández (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.). v. Andrés González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.), born in Cuba.; died 23 February 1864 in parr. Monserrate, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.); married Elvira Perovani y Gordon in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.). More About Andrés González de la Torre y Armenteros: Testó: ante Nicolás Ortega. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.) vi. Francisco González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.), born cir 1810 in Cuba; married María-de-Regla Morales y Armenteros in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.); born 1815 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 220.). More About María-de-Regla Morales y Armenteros: Bautizo: 11 February 1815, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 220.) vii. M-Concepción González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.), born cir 1812 in Cuba; married Antonio de Armona y Armenteros 21 December 1832 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo V, p. 36.); born cir 1805 in Cuba.. 40 viii. José María González de la Torre y Armenteros, born cir 1820 in Cuba; married María-Dolores Bassave y Ziburo 14 February 1847 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. ix. M-Trinidad González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.), born cir 1824 in Cuba; married José María Carrión e Hidalgo-Gato 16 November 1844 in parr. Monserrate, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 176.); born cir 1819 in Cuba.. x. Estanislao González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.), born cir 1824 in Cuba; married Clara Armenteros y Morales 6 December 1849 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.); born cir 1829 in Cuba.; died 4 December 1854 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.). xi. Joaquín González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.), born 1829 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.); died 13 February 1885 in El Recreo, Matanzas, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.); married (1) María-Mercedes Armenteros y Morales 14 October 1850 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.); born 1825 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La ! Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.); died 7 February 1863 in parr. Monserrate, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.); married (2) María-del-Rosario Armenteros y Morales 23 March 1877 in parr. N. S. de Regla, Regla, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.); born 13 June 1832 in Aguacate, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.); died 10 June 1877 in parr. N.S. de Regla, Regla, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 58.). More About Joaquín González de la Torre y Armenteros: Bautizo: 24 September 1829, parr. Guadalupe, La Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.) More About María-Mercedes Armenteros y Morales: Bautizo: 20 October 1825, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 58.) xii. Aniceto González de la Torre y Armenteros (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.), born cir 1832 in Cuba; married María-Josefa Poly y Aguiar 22 February 1857 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 177.); born cir 1837 in Cuba.. 82. Luis Anastasio Bassave y Cárdenas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born 1776 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.); died 8 August 1828 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 73.). He was the son of 164. Luis Bassave y Cárdenas and 165. Antonia de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta. He married 83. María-de-los-Angeles de Ziburu y Bassave 18 December 1813 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.). 83. María-de-los-Angeles de Ziburu y Bassave (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born cir 1794 in Cuba.. She was the daughter of 166. Joaquín de Ziburu y Nórris and 167. María-de-Jesús Bassave y Cárdenas. More About Luis Anastasio Bassave y Cárdenas: Bautizo: 29 August 1776, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.) Dato 1: Ingresó en la Reales Compañíasde Guardias Marinas el año 1793. llegando a obtener el grado de Teniente de Fragata de la Real Armada. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.) Testó: ante Felipe Álvarez. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.) Children of Luis Bassave y Cárdenas and María-de-los-Angeles Ziburu y Bassave are: i. María-de-Jesús Bassave y Ziburo (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born in Cuba. ii. Luis Bassave y Ziburo (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born in Cuba. iii. Pedro Regalado Bassave y Ziburo (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born 1818 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.); died 15 August 1881 in Baja (Dimas), Pinar del Río, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.); married (1) María-del-Carmen González de la Torre y Tapia 26 May 1843 in parr. Guadalupe. La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.); born cir 1823 in Cuba.; died 20 March 1847 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, ! Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo II, p. 175.); married (2) María-de-la-Encarnación del Pino y Pamo 13 March 1856 in Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.); born cir 1836 in Ceuta, Morocco. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.). More About Pedro Regalado Bassave y Ziburo: Bautizo: 27 May 1812, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de familias cubanas, (La Habana, Cuba), Tomo III, p. 73.) Dato 1: Coronel de Caballería de Milicias de la plaza de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.) 41 iv. María-Dolores Bassave y Ziburo, born cir 1827 in Cuba.; died 15 April 1880 in parr. Santo Cristo, La Habana, Cuba; married José María González de la Torre y Armenteros 14 February 1847 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. 84. Carlos Soublette y Piar (Source: (1) Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Vol. V, p. 220., (2) Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.), born 31 October 1772 in Isla de Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Islas Canarias. (Source: (1) Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo VII, p. 90., (2) Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.). He was the son of 168. Cap.-Martín Soublette y Naury and 169. Isabel María Piar y Lottyn. He married 85. Agueda Orduño y Fernández. 85. Agueda Orduño y Fernández (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.). She was the daughter of 170. Francisco Orduño and 171. María-Mercedes Fernández y Leal. Children of Carlos Soublette y Piar and Agueda Orduño y Fernández are: i. Félix Soublette y Orduño (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.), born 1820 in Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Islas Canarias. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 44.); died 26 February 1899 in Caracas, Venezuela. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 44.); married Francisca de Mendoza y Buroz; born cir 1818. 42 ii. Miguel Antonio Soublette y Orduña, born cir 1825; married Camila Manresa y Pérez. iii. María-Mercedes Soublette y Orduña (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Vol. V, p. 220.), born cir 1830 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Vol. V, p. 220.); married Próspero Chaumont y Ciganda; born cir 1825. 108. Juan de Palma-Beloso y Morales, born 1653 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 222.). He was the son of 216. Juan de Palma-Beloso y García de Zalamea and 217. Isabel Morales y Acosta. He married 109. Juana González-Carvajal y Muñoz 8 December 1695 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 183.). 109. Juana González-Carvajal y Muñoz, born 1660 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 182-183.); died 14 February 1723 in Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 183.). She was the daughter of 218. Juan González-Carvajal y Rivadeneyra and 219. Micaela Muñoz y Álvarez de Oñate. More About Juan de Palma-Beloso y Morales: Bautizo: 5 April 1653, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 222.) Fact 2: Alcalde ordinario de la Habana por los años 1703, 1704, y 1713. Testó: 26 September 1727, ante Bartolomé Núñez. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 222.) More About Juana González-Carvajal y Muñoz: Bautizo: 26 January 1660, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 182-183.) Testó: 24 January 1705, ante Bartolomé Núñez. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 183.) Children of Juan Palma-Beloso y Morales and Juana González-Carvajal y Muñoz are: i. Martín de Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal 54 ii. Juan Leandro d Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal, born 1698 in La Habana, Cuba.; died 3 April 1700 in Catedral de la Habana; married (1) Juana Pita de Figueroa y Recio Borroto 24 July 1716 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.; married (2) Mariana Chacón y Altaver 30 October 1732 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. iii. Nicolasa de Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal, born cir 1708; died 19 April 1758 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 222.); married Miguel Modesto Arango y Loza 19 April 1728 in parr. Santo Cristo, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 14.); born cir 1695; died 18 December 1754 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 13.). More About Nicolasa de Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal: Testó: 10 March 1754, ante Francisco Xavier Rodríguez (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 222.) More About Miguel Modesto Arango y Loza: Fact 2: Capitán de Milicias, Teniente de Regidor y Alguacil Mayor de la Habana. Testó: 10 March 1754, ante Francisco Xavier Rodríguez (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 13.) 110. Luis Chacón y Castellón, born 1650 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 33.); died 16 December 1733 in Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 133.). He was the son of 220. Félix Chacón y Narváez y Treviño and 221. Catalina Castellón y Sánchez-Pereira. He married 111. Mariana Altaver cir 1680 in ¿Barcelona, Cataluña, España? (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 133.). 111. Mariana Altaver, born cir 1655 in Barcelona, Cataluña, España.. More About Luis Chacón y Castellón: Bautizo: 1650, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 133.) Fact 2: Coronel de los Reales Ejércitos, Gobernador de la fortaleza del Morro en la Fact 11: Habana y tres veces Gobernador Militar interino de la isla de Cuba. Testó: 4 May 1733, d.p.p.t. a su hija Luisa, ante Bartolomé Núñez. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 138.) Children of Luis Chacón y Castellón and Mariana Altaver are: i. Sor-Asunción Clara Chacón y Altaver More About Sor-Asunción Clara Chacón y Altaver: Fact 2: Religiosa en el convento de Santa Teresa de la Habana. ii. Sor-San José Chacón y Altaver More About Sor-San José Chacón y Altaver: Fact 2: Religiosa en el convento de Santa Clara de la Habana. iii. Sor-San Luis Chacón y Altaver More About Sor-San Luis Chacón y Altaver: Fact 2: Religiosa en el convento de Santa Clara de la Habana. iv. Ana Chacón y Altaver v. Luisa Chacón y Altaver, born in Barcelona. Cataluña, España; died 16 June 1751 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 133.). More About Luisa Chacón y Altaver: Testó: 13 October 1749, en la Habana, ante Juan Bautista Salinas. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 133.) vi. Juan Francisco Chacón y Altaver, died 7 September 1713 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 134.). vii. Luis Chacón y Altaver, born in Barcelona, Cataluña, España.; died 29 October 1749 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 134.). More About Luis Chacón y Altaver: Fact 2: Teniente de Infantería de la plaza de la Habana. viii. Manuela Chacón y Altaver, born cir 1692 in Barcelona, Cataluña, España.; died 25 May 1766 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 134.); married Nicolás Chacón y Castellón 10 January 1712 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 135.); born cir 1687. More About Manuela Chacón y Altaver: Testó: 9 January 1764, ante Francisco Xavier Rodríguez. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 134.) 55 ix. Mariana Chacón y Altaver, born cir 1712; married Juan Leandro d Palma-Beloso y González-Carvajal 30 October 1732 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. Generation No. 8 160. José María González de la Torre y Urrutia, born 1756 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 174.). He was the son of 320. Antonio M González de la Torre y Glez de Aponte and 321. Elvira de Urrutia y Montoya. He married 161. Joaquina de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta 2 September 1782 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 174.). 161. Joaquina de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta, born 1766 in El Calvario, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 49.); died 12 October 1810 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 49.). She was the daughter of 322. Rafael de Cárdenas y Pita de Figueroa and 323. M-Angeles Díaz-Pimienta y Glez de la Torre. More About José María González de la Torre y Urrutia: Bautizo: 30 July 1756, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 174.) Fact 2: Coronel de los Reales Ejércitos, Teniente Gobernador de la Nueva Filipina, Fact 11: en Guane, Pinar del Río, Gobernador e Intendente de la provincia de Cumaná, Fact 12: Gobernador Militar Interino de la plaza de la Florida y Fact 13: Caballero de la orden de Calatrava. More About Joaquina de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta: Bautizo: 3 February 1766, parr. La Invención de la Santa Cruz, La Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 49.) Testó: 2 October 1810, ante Juan de Mesa (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 49.) Children of José González de la Torre y Urrutia and Joaquina Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta are: i. Ana González de la Torre y Cárdenas ii. M-Mercedes González de la Torre y Cárdenas iii. Alejandro González de la Torre y Cárdenas, died 30 November 1814 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 175.). More About Alejandro González de la Torre y Cárdenas: Fact 2: Cadete de los Escuadrones Rurales de Fernando VII. iv. Antonio María González de la Torre y Cárdenas, died 23 November 1846 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 175.); married Nieves de Tapia. More About Antonio María González de la Torre y Cárdenas: Fact 2: Coronel de Infantería de los Reales Ejércitos, Secretario del Vireinato de Nueva Fact 11: España y Secretario Político de los Capitanes Generales de Cuba. Fact 12: Delineó los extramuros poblados de la Habana y trazó el plano del Templete. Fact 13: El primero que ensayó en Cuba la aclimatación del gusano de seda. Testó: 9 December 1837, ante Lorenzo Larrazábal (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.) v. Joaquín González de la Torre y Cárdenas, married Francisca Rosa Mendieta. More About Joaquín González de la Torre y Cárdenas: Fact 2: Teniente de Infantería de Milicias del Regimiento de Cuba. vi. José María González de la Torre y Cárdenas, born cir 1785; died 17 December 1847 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 175.); married M-de-Monserrate González de la Torre y Cárdenas 16 September 1810 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 175.); born cir 1790. More About José María González de la Torre y Cárdenas: Fact 2: Administrador de Rentas Reales. 80 vii. Francisco X. González de la Torre y Cárdenas, born cir 1788; died 23 June 1834 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba; married Estanisláa Armenteros y San Martín 18 May 1813 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. viii. Margarita G. González de la Torre y Cárdenas, born cir 1789; married José Ignacio González de la Torre y Cárdenas 13 September 1809 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 174.); born cir 1784; died 24 November 1817 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 174.). More About José Ignacio González de la Torre y Cárdenas: Fact 2: Teniente del Regimiento de Infantería de la plaza de la Habana. ix. María-Teresa González de la Torre y Cárdenas, born cir 1800; married (1) Francisco Cepero y López-Zarco 18 June 1820 in parr. Santo Cristo, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 175.); born 1777 in Güines, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 83.); died 7 September 1833 in parr. Santo Cristo, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 83.); married (2) Eduardo Armenteros y Pomares 30 September 1834 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.); born cir 1786 in Güines, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 51.); died 29 January 1864 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 51.). More About Francisco Cepero y López-Zarco: Bautizo: 4 February 1777, parr. San Julián, Güines (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 83.) Fact 2: Teniente Coronel de Infantería de Milicias de la plaza de la Habana. Fact 11: Caballero de la Orden de Santiago. (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 83.) Testó: 16 August 1829, ante Antonio María Muñoz (Source: Santa Cruz, VI, p. 83.) x. M-Dolores González de la Torre y Cárdenas, born cir 1808; married Francisco Xavier Radillo y Bracho 7 September 1832 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 176.); born cir 1807 in Villafranca, León, España. More About Francisco Xavier Radillo y Bracho: Fact 2: Capitán de Navió de la Real Armada y del Puerto de La Habana. Fact 11: Cruz y Placa de la orden de San Hermengildo. 162. Andrés Armenteros y Zaldívar, born 1745 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 56.); died 6 May 1817 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 56.). He was the son of 324. José Armenteros y Guzmán y Sotolongo and 325. María-Micaela Fernández de Zaldívar y Ximénez. He married 163. Rosalía San Martín y Burón 2 September 1784 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 56.). 163. Rosalía San Martín y Burón, born cir 1759. She was the daughter of 326. José San Martín y Arango and 327. Josefa Burón y Silva. More About Andrés Armenteros y Zaldívar: Bautizo: 13 December 1745, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 56.) Fact 2: Caballero Maestrante de la Real Ronda. Testó: 3 May 1817, ante Miguel Méndez (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 56.) Children of Andrés Armenteros y Zaldívar and Rosalía San Martín y Burón are: i. Micaela Armenteros y San Martín ii. José Armenteros y San Martín, born 1785 in San Matías de Río Blanco del Norte, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); died 7 September 1850 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); married (1) Mariana González de la Torre y Cárdenas 1 March 1811 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, II, p. 173.); born cir 1791; died cir 1813; married (2) Clara María Morales y Sotolongo 12 April 1814 in Oratorio del Ingenio "Rosario", Jibacoa, (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.); born 1798 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.). More About José Armenteros y San Martín: Bautizo: 4 May 1785, parr. San Matías, San Matías del Río Blanco del Norte (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) iii. Carlos Armenteros y San Martín, born 1787 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); died 21 January 1861 in parr. Monserrate, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); met Bárbara de Cuéllar. More About Carlos Armenteros y San Martín: Bautizo: 25 November 1787, parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) Fact 2: Teniente Coronel del Regimiento de Lanceros. Testó: 6 January 1840, ante Marcelina Allo (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) iv. Antonio Armenteros y San Martín, born 1789 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); died 22 September 1860 in parr. Monserrate, La Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.). More About Antonio Armenteros y San Martín: Bautizo: 22 June 1789, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) Fact 2: Teniente Coronel de Milicias. 81 v. Estanisláa Armenteros y San Martín, born cir 1793; died 1 September 1871 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba; married Francisco X. González de la Torre y Cárdenas 18 May 1813 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. vi. Aniceto Armenteros y San Martín, born 1793 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); married María-del-Carmen O' Ryan (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.). More About Aniceto Armenteros y San Martín: Bautizo: 5 May 1793, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) vii. María-del-Rosario Armenteros y San Martín, born 1795 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); died 3 August 1860 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.); married Pedro Julián Morales y Sotolongo 12 April 1814 in Jibacoa, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.); born 1794 in La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.); died 10 May 1826 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.). More About María-del-Rosario Armenteros y San Martín: Bautizo: 19 June 1795, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) Testó: 20 October 1847, ante Fernando de Castro (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 57.) More About Pedro Julián Morales y Sotolongo: Bautizo: 14 February 1794, Catedral de la Habana (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.) Fact 2: Subteniente de Caballería de la plaza de la Habana. Testó: 7 May 1826, d.p.p.t. a su mujer, ante Juan Mesa (Source: Santa Cruz, I, p. 220.) viii. Francisco Armenteros y San Martín* (Source: Miguel Angel Fernández González, 23 Noviembre 2002, Pesquisas familiares.), married Dolores de Cuéllar*. 164. Luis Bassave y Cárdenas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 49.), born 1753 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 72.). He was the son of 328. Luis Francisco Bassave y Espellosa and 329. M-Jesús de Cárdenas Vélez de Guevara Castellón. He married 165. Antonia de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta 8 September 1771 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 72-73.). 165. Antonia de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 49.), born cir 1751 in Cuba.; died 16 December 1780 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 49.). She was the daughter of 322. Rafael de Cárdenas y Pita de Figueroa and 323. M-Angeles Díaz-Pimienta y Glez de la Torre. More About Luis Bassave y Cárdenas: Bautizo: 18 October 1753, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 72.) Dato 1: Capitán de Caballería Ligera de la plaza de la Habana. (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 72.) More About Antonia de Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta: Testó: 12 October 1780, ante Nicolás Frias (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo I, p. 49.) Children of Luis Bassave y Cárdenas and Antonia Cárdenas y Díaz-Pimienta are: i. María-de-Jesús Bassave y Cárdenas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born in Cuba. ii. José Joaquín Bassave y Cárdenas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born in Cuba. iii. Rafael Bassave y Cárdenas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 73.), born in Cuba. 82 iv. Luis Anastasio Bassave y Cárdenas, born 1776 in La Habana, Cuba.; died 8 August 1828 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba; married María-de-los-Angeles de Ziburu y Bassave 18 December 1813 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. 166. Joaquín de Ziburu y Nórris, born cir 1767. He was the son of 332. Manuel de Ziburu and 333. M-de-los-Angeles Nórris y Benedit-Horruitiner. He married 167. María-de-Jesús Bassave y Cárdenas 28 August 1792 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 72.). 167. María-de-Jesús Bassave y Cárdenas (Source: Francisco de Santa Cruz y Mallén, Historia de Familias Cubanas, Tomo I y Tomo II, (La Habana, Cuba, "Editorial Hercules", 1940), Tomo III, p. 72.), born cir 1772; died 4 May 1808 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, III, p. 72.). She was the daughter of 328. Luis Francisco Bassave y Espellosa and 329. M-Jesús de Cárdenas Vélez de Guevara Castellón. Children of Joaquín Ziburu y Nórris and María-de-Jesús Bassave y Cárdenas are: i. Manuel de Ziburu y Bassave, born 22 June 1793 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Nieto, "Genealogías habaneras", II, p. 335.); married Rudesinda de Herrera-Dávila y Albear 12 November 1824 in parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Nieto, "Genealogías habaneras", II, p. 336.); born 14 August 1802 in La Habana, Cuba. (Source: Nieto, "Genealogías habaneras", II, p. 335.). More About Manuel de Ziburu y Bassave: Bautizo: 1 July 1793, Catedral de la Habana. (Source: Nieto, "Genealogías habaneras", II, p. 335.) Fact 2: Ayudante Mayor del Regimiento de Infantería de Tarragona Fact 11: en la isla de Cuba. (Source: Nieto, "Genealogías habaneras", II, p. 335.) More About Rudesinda de Herrera-Dávila y Albear: Bautizo: 24 August 1802, parr. Espíritu Santo, La Habana. (Source: Nieto, "Genealogías habaneras", II, p. 335.) 83 ii. María-de-los-Angeles de Ziburu y Bassave, born cir 1794 in Cuba; married Luis Anastasio Bassave y Cárdenas 18 December 1813 in Catedral de la Habana, Cuba.. iii. Juan Bautista de Ziburu y Bassave, born cir 1795; married Marta Jacinta de Molina y Armenteros 20 August 1822 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba (Source: Santa Cruz, IX, p. 235.); born cir 1800. 168. Cap.-Martín Soublette y Naury (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.), born 6 November 1725 in La Vielle, Bayonne, France. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 120.); died 24 July 1786 in La Guayra, Venezuela. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 120.). He was the son of 336. Etienne Soublette y Doloué and 337. Garcy de Naury y Dubrocá. He married 169. Isabel María Piar y Lottyn. 169. Isabel María Piar y Lottyn (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.), born 17 July 1729 in La Laguna, Tenerife, Islas Canarias. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 120.); died 1786 (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 120.). She was the daughter of 338. Felipe Piar y Lacoli and 339. Juana María Lottyn y Santiago. Children of Cap.-Martín Soublette y Naury and Isabel Piar y Lottyn are: i. Antonio Soublette y Piar (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 33.), born 6 February 1761 in Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Islas Canarias. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 34.); died 1813 in Caracas, Venezuela. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 34.); married Teresa-de-Jesús Xerez de Aristiguieta y Blanco 27 May 1787 (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 34.); born 14 October 1763 in Caracas, Venezuela. (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 34.). 84 ii. Carlos Soublette y Piar, born 31 October 1772 in Isla de Santa Cruz de Tenerife, Islas Canarias; married (1) Agueda Orduño y Fernández; married (2) María-del-Carmen de Castro-Palomino y Murguía 14 November 1803 in parr. Guadalupe, La Habana, Cuba.. iii. Ana María Soublette y Piar (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 120.). iv. María-Encarnación Soublette y Piar (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 120.). 170. Francisco Orduño (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.). He married 171. María-Mercedes Fernández y Leal. 171. María-Mercedes Fernández y Leal (Source: Gilberto Bodú y Ayala, Algunos Linajes de Venezuela, (http://www.gilberto.bodu.net/web/default.htm), "Electronic," p. 4.). Child

    08/07/2011 08:41:13
    1. Re: [CUBA] Spain to Cuba late 1800's

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: neiott Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/1077.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am wondering if you received my email to what perhaps is an old email address? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/07/2011 12:33:21
    1. Re: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. Alex Hernandez

    3. Thanks for the history lesson. My Hernandez branch (my direct line) is descended from the Canary Islands (Las Palmas de Gran Canaria) there is no genetic evidence for the Guanches being descended from Vikings on the contrary there was plenty of genetic evidence but in genetic research and in Isleños own genetic genealogy test that the native of the Canary Islands were related to the Berber groups of North Africa. On Sat, Aug 6, 2011 at 4:41 AM, oz hernandez <oswaldo1129@yahoo.com> wrote: > Mike: > > To the best of my knowledge, the first geography book on > Cuba was written by a "de la Torre", who I am distantly > related to (in those days there were two "de la Torre" > families in Cuba, the Havana line (genetically), and the > Puerto Príncipe (later Camaguey line. In those days, > in the late 1600s I believe, but will check it out, these > two lines, were very close (first cousins), but once in > Cuba slowly drifted apart, and then they came very > close once again. I too was very surprised when > I first found out about Pinar del Rio being first called > Provincia ó Territorio de la Nueva Filipinas (ahora no > recuerdo exactamente si era provincia ó territorio, > I was also very surprised. Eventually, a very large > number of Spaniards from Islas Canarias migrated > to Cuba, and settled in the Provinces of Pinar del > Rio and Las Villas. A "bunch" of us have some > type of genealogical connection to the "Isleños". > By the way, don't laugh too much with this one, > but it took the "castellanos/Castillians" about two > centuries to conquer the Canary Islands. The > conquest was going on when Christopher > Columbus headed West to the Bahamas, Cuba, > Hispaniola, and the other islands of the > Caribbean. I am quite certain that the ferocious > resistance that the Canarians showed against > the Castellanos, the Galicians, the Asturians, > the Catalonians, and all other ethnic elements > of the Iberian invasion, was because the > Canarios were biologically descendants of, or > Vikings themselves. What the historical > evidence shows, is tha the Canary Islands > served for a period of about 400 years, as the > Viking trading center with some regions of > Africa. I used to think that the reason for so > many Canarians to be very light-skinned and > with blue eyes was because the Castillian/ > Iberian invasion had many Spaniards from > the northern region if Spain, but I now > "theorize" that it was due to the Scandi- > navian genetic influence of the Canarians. > > And to "top off" my genetic theories, if > we read carefully the writings of Alfonso > X of León, better known as Alfonso El > Sabio (the Wise One), we will have to con- > cude that in reality the origin of the Goths > (Visigoths) who invaded Spain after > making mincemeat of what was left of > the Western Roman Empire, and sacking > Rome in 500-something (Rome had truly > abused them), were not of Germanic > origin or stock, but originated instead > in a southern Sweden tribe, which > began a quasi-migration and basically > took control of the largest island in the > Baltic Sea, curiously enough, nowadays > kown as Gotland (can't remember of it's > one or two "t"s, and it is too late for me > to be looking. These Scandinavians, in > about 1600 decided to cross the Baltic, > and began conquering all the region > which now is part of the countries of > Lithuania, Estonia, Prussia, part of > Poland, and Belorussia....... > > I am falling sleep, so i'll have to make > contact with you at another time. > > Sín mas por el momento, quedo de > ti, atentamente. > > Oswaldo F. Hernández-Campos > Asheville, North Carolina > > > > --- On Fri, 8/5/11, gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> wrote: > > From: gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> > Subject: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas? > To: cuba@rootsweb.com, CUBA@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 5:15 AM > > A great deal of my dally is also from Pinar and I've read a lot of it's > history and I've never come across this. I've also been to the Philippnes a > lot. > ========================================== > To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > ~~~~~~ > Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > ========================================== > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ========================================== > To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > ~~~~~~ > Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > ========================================== > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/06/2011 03:22:53
    1. Re: [CUBA] Coroalles Fernandez Family

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: lfulzurrun12 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/10858.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I SAW YOUR MESSAGE.MY MATERNAL GRANDMOTHER WAS MARGARITA ELVIRA COROALLES THE NINTH CHILD OF MANUEL COROALLES AND AMALIA FERNANADEZ.SHE WAS BORN IN 1886 AND DIES IN 1970. SHE MARRIED PHILIP S. O'SHAUGHNESSY IN PANAMA IN 1907.PHILIP DIED IN PANAMA IN 1913. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/05/2011 09:32:56
    1. Re: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. oz hernandez

    3. Mike: To the best of my knowledge, the first geography book on Cuba was written by a "de la Torre", who I am distantly related to (in those days there were two "de la Torre" families in Cuba, the Havana line (genetically), and the Puerto Príncipe (later Camaguey line.  In those days, in the late 1600s I believe, but will check it out, these two lines, were very close (first cousins), but once in Cuba slowly drifted apart, and then they came very close once again.  I too was very surprised when I first found out about Pinar del Rio being first called Provincia ó Territorio de la Nueva Filipinas (ahora no recuerdo exactamente si era provincia ó territorio, I was also very surprised.  Eventually, a very large number of Spaniards from Islas Canarias migrated to Cuba, and settled in the Provinces of Pinar del Rio and Las Villas.  A "bunch" of us have some type of genealogical connection to the "Isleños". By the way, don't laugh too much with this one, but it took the "castellanos/Castillians" about two centuries to conquer the Canary Islands.  The conquest was going on when Christopher Columbus headed West to the Bahamas, Cuba, Hispaniola, and the other islands of the Caribbean.  I am quite certain that the ferocious resistance that the Canarians showed against the Castellanos, the Galicians, the Asturians, the Catalonians, and all other ethnic elements of the Iberian invasion, was because the Canarios were biologically descendants of, or Vikings themselves.  What the historical evidence shows, is tha the Canary Islands served for a period  of about 400 years, as the Viking trading center with some regions of Africa.  I used to think that the reason for so many Canarians to be very light-skinned and with blue eyes was because the Castillian/ Iberian invasion had many Spaniards from the northern region if Spain, but I now "theorize" that it was due to the Scandi- navian genetic influence of the Canarians. And to "top off" my genetic theories, if we read carefully the writings of Alfonso X of León, better known as Alfonso El Sabio (the Wise One), we will have to con- cude that in reality the origin of the Goths (Visigoths) who invaded Spain after making mincemeat of what was left of the Western Roman Empire, and sacking Rome in 500-something (Rome had truly abused them), were not of Germanic origin or stock, but originated instead in a southern Sweden tribe, which began a quasi-migration and basically took control of the largest island in the Baltic Sea, curiously enough, nowadays kown as Gotland (can't remember of it's one or two "t"s, and it is too late for me to be looking.  These Scandinavians, in about 1600 decided to cross the Baltic, and began conquering all the region which now is part of the countries of Lithuania, Estonia, Prussia, part of Poland, and Belorussia....... I am falling sleep, so i'll have to make contact with you at another time. Sín mas por el momento, quedo de ti, atentamente. Oswaldo F. Hernández-Campos Asheville, North Carolina   --- On Fri, 8/5/11, gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> wrote: From: gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> Subject: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas? To: cuba@rootsweb.com, CUBA@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 5:15 AM A great deal of my dally is also from Pinar and I've read a lot of it's history and I've never come across this.  I've also been to the Philippnes a lot. ========================================== To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. ~~~~~~ Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. ========================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2011 07:41:27
    1. [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. gonzalez mike

    3. A great deal of my dally is also from Pinar and I&#39;ve read a lot of it&#39;s history and I&#39;ve never come across this. I&#39;ve also been to the Philippnes a lot.

    08/05/2011 04:15:09
    1. Re: [CUBA] Re : Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. Alex Hernandez

    3. We didn't know about it either until we got that Southeast Asian genetic signature and started looking into it. Here' another document (this one from the Philippines Embassy: http://www.dfa.gov.ph/main/index.php/advisory/travel-advisory/travel-advisory/624-rp-embassy-in-havana-visits-former-new-philippines-in-cuba I'm curious, you said you've got family from Pinar del Rio and visit the Philippines a lot... Are you also of Cuban-Filipino descent? Alex On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 5:15 AM, gonzalez mike <cambeiro7@yahoo.fr> wrote: > A great deal of my dally is also from Pinar and I&#39;ve read a lot of > it&#39;s history and I&#39;ve never come across this. I&#39;ve also been to > the Philippnes a lot. > ========================================== > To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your > answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. > ~~~~~~ > Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que > conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. > ========================================== > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/05/2011 02:43:13
    1. Re: [CUBA] De Varona

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: conchita1021 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/10855.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there any evidence that any on the Miranda lineage ended up in Pinar del Rio province, specifically in Mantua? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/04/2011 03:26:31
    1. [CUBA] Pinar del Rio = Nueva Filipinas?
    2. Alex Hernandez

    3. Recently the branch of my family from Pinar del Rio was DNA tested for genealogical reasons and the genetic breakdown is: 70 something % Spanish 20 something % Moroccan 2% Columbian (Taino) And 1% Southeast Asian (Filipino) The Filipino really surprised us, but then I discovered that Pinar del Rio was originally Nueva Filipinas and has a large Filipino population that melted into the general Cuban population. (Unlike the Chinese immigrants that spoke Spanish and were Catholic so the assimilation was smoother.) It all made sense. I was wondering if any body had more information about Nueva Filipinas or Filipino-Cuban ansestry. Here’s a link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinar_del_R%C3%ADo_Province Thank you, Alex

    08/04/2011 02:56:23
    1. Re: [CUBA] Familia Carrillo de Albornoz - Para María Díaz
    2. Josep Costa

    3. Hola María,   Si no lo habías visto ya, mira en la página 370 de este libro: "El Real Valle de Guriezo, un pueblo de hidalgos" por María Pilar Llama Zubieta, Año 2002, disponible en parte en Google Libros:   http://books.google.es/books?id=jmpWfD83tgkC&pg=PA370&dq=%22Ricardo+D%C3%ADaz+Carrillo+de+Albornoz%22&hl=es&ei=Haw6Tv6uIuqssQL9jY0X&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22Ricardo%20D%C3%ADaz%20Carrillo%20de%20Albornoz%22&f=false   y también aparece en la Revista Hidalguía número 304-3004. Año 2004: http://books.google.es/books?id=spK5VVe1hfgC&pg=PA370&dq=%22Ricardo+D%C3%ADaz+Carrillo+de+Albornoz%22&hl=es&ei=Haw6Tv6uIuqssQL9jY0X&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22Ricardo%20D%C3%ADaz%20Carrillo%20de%20Albornoz%22&f=false   Saludos cordiales, José M Costa Ottawa, Canadá From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: cuba@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 8:24:50 PM Subject: Re: [CUBA] Familia Carrillo de Albornoz This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mar_dsa Surnames: Carrillo de Albornoz Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/2359.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Buenas noches a todos! Me llamo María Díaz Sánchez, emprendí la búsqueda de mis orígenes hace muy poco tiempo y no he tenido mucho éxito. Sé que mis abuenlos se llamban Ricardo Díaz Carrillo de Albornoz y mi abuela Dolores Sánchez Jiménez. Eran de Andalucía. Vivieron en Cádiz y tuvieron 11 hijos. Mi bisabuelo, era caballero cubierto ante el rey Alfonso XXIII. Cuando mi abuelo Ricardo murió, mi abuela se vió obligada a acondicionar su casa como casa de huéspedes; a ella llegaban muchos canarios estudiantes de medicina, entre otros. Sé que estaban relacionados con una familia que creo recordar se apedillaban Miles y Torales pero ahí se pierde todo mi conocimiento del tema. Me encantaría localizar alguna otra información que me llevase hasta mis orígenes y mi árbol genealógico. Mi agradecimiento de antemano y un afectuoso saludo. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ========================================== To reply to a message from the surname Bulletin Board you must post your answer on the Bulletin Board and not directly to the list. ~~~~~~ Para contestar un mensaje del tablero de pesquisas es necesario que conteste por medio del tablero y no directamente a la lista. ========================================== ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CUBA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/04/2011 01:43:40
    1. Re: [CUBA] Familia Carrillo de Albornoz

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Mar_dsa Surnames: Carrillo de Albornoz Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/2359.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Buenas noches a todos! Me llamo María Díaz Sánchez, emprendí la búsqueda de mis orígenes hace muy poco tiempo y no he tenido mucho éxito. Sé que mis abuenlos se llamban Ricardo Díaz Carrillo de Albornoz y mi abuela Dolores Sánchez Jiménez. Eran de Andalucía. Vivieron en Cádiz y tuvieron 11 hijos. Mi bisabuelo, era caballero cubierto ante el rey Alfonso XXIII. Cuando mi abuelo Ricardo murió, mi abuela se vió obligada a acondicionar su casa como casa de huéspedes; a ella llegaban muchos canarios estudiantes de medicina, entre otros. Sé que estaban relacionados con una familia que creo recordar se apedillaban Miles y Torales pero ahí se pierde todo mi conocimiento del tema. Me encantaría localizar alguna otra información que me llevase hasta mis orígenes y mi árbol genealógico. Mi agradecimiento de antemano y un afectuoso saludo. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/03/2011 06:24:50
    1. Re: [CUBA] Carrillo Family - Ancestors of General Francisco Carrillo Morales

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ChristopherRiveraBX Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/3722.6.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Could you attach a copy of the letter to this thread? What's the nature of the letter? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/03/2011 05:12:17
    1. Re: [CUBA] CREAGH

    3. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: seekarin Surnames: Martinez de la Junquera y Creagh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.caribbean.cuba.general/340.355.363/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Mr. Cardenas: My grandfather's name was Francisco Martinez de la Junquera y Creagh-Maso, from Stgo de Cuba, and I'm very interested in more information about the family's history. Please, contact me, I will appreciate it very much. Best regards, Carmen Aldrey seekarin@yahoo.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/02/2011 09:12:19