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    1. Re: origen del apellido Nodarse
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5354.2 Message Board Post: Mi bisabuela era de apellido nodarse y se caso con un hombre de apellido Fuentes. Mi abuelo Jose de la Luz Fuentes era de Jovallanos Cuba. Estoy buscando mas informacion sobre el y la historia de mi familia.

    07/31/2004 04:11:44
    1. Re: Nodarse - Jovellanos, Cuba
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/4992.1 Message Board Post: I am interested in knowing more about your grandmother. I am trying to trace my family history on my father's side. My great gradmother's last name was nodarse who married a man by the last name fuentes. My grandfather, Jose de la Luz Fuentes was their son and was from Jovellanos, Cuba as well. Could you give me any info?

    07/31/2004 04:11:29
    1. Family History
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fuentes, Nodarse, Sotolongo Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5492 Message Board Post: Looking for Fuentes family history.

    07/31/2004 04:11:17
    1. Re: BELTRAN
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/2514.2929.2981 Message Board Post: Hi there, I saw your post I'm sorry I do not have any info for you however I myself am trying to find any info on a Sarafen (Sarefen) Beltran have you come across this name in your search?

    07/31/2004 04:11:03
    1. Re: dearmas
    2. Jean-Pierre
    3. Dear Ines, I have in my genealogy a Francisco De Armas who married Norma Urbay in La Habana in the late fifties/early sixties. Did you ever hear of this couple? Best regards, Jean-Pierre Marill Hamburg, Germany > Surnames: De Armas in Havana, Miami, Newark > > Dear Ms. De Armas, > > I knew a Roberto De Armas. He was like an uncle to me. He and my uncle, > Jose ("Pepin") Owen e Hierrezuelo, had a business in Havana, in which they > rebuild furniture, decorated people's homes, etc. Mr. De Armas has > considerable artistic talent. He is red-haired. He was about 32 when I > was a child, in the mid-sixties, so he would be about 67 years old today. > > He and a few bachelor friends of my father and mother would frequent our > home (well, OK, they were like my parent's adopted over-age children and we > were hoping to marry them off). The latest (I hope it was not the last) > time I saw him he was married to a raven-haired, green-eyed Cuban beauty. > > He lived in Newark, New Jersey. If you find him, please say hello to him > for me. Please let him know that my mom, OFELIA OWEN e HIERREZUELO, has > gone on to a better life at a young age several years ago. I am still in > touch with the Hierrezuelo family, though. > > Tell him that I remember taping his beautiful voice singing with my mother > and also listening to him with my auntie, ROSA DELIA OWEN e HIERREZUELO, > singing boleros and tangos and attracting the whole neighborhood to our > block. If you know about tango and singing, this is not an mundane > talent! Legend had it that his voice held the hurt of a broken heart, from > his youth. He did not deny it. > > I did meet a De Armas, an attorney, and asked him whether or not he was > related to Roberto De Armas, but he did not seem to remember him. I told > him about how we called him "Colorin" for his red hair, how his mom lived > in Miami and he visited her often, how he was quite a Bohemian. He > answered: "Bohemian?! Yes, that sounds like a De Armas. We probably are > related." > > Mr. Roberto De Armas is quite outspoken, in fact, he and my mother always > wanted to start a movement wherein they could vote AGAINST candidates > rather than always FOR candidates. He also got along famously with my > mother's brother, his business partner, who could also be rebellious, > especially when asked to do guard/security duty on his block in order to > maintain his business. He was willing to lose his business rather than > walk around snooping on the neighbors, after the Revolution and lived in > Cuba as a "freelance interior decorator". "Colorin", (Roberto De Armas), > came to the United States and made signs, created graphic decoration, etc. > > He sure spent enough time with our family to be more than just an honorary > member. We also loved his sense of humor and his love of politics, > although he never did like any particular candidate for political office. > > Just a note to let you know that you may be related to a musically > talented, artistically talented, very funny at times, very caring man and > very loving son. I hope you find him. If you do, give him my e-mail > address. My brother, father and I would love to speak with him again. > > Cordially, > Ines Diaz-Owen >

    07/31/2004 05:05:00
    1. Re: Pedro Rosell 1958 España
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/57.58.3282.1 Message Board Post: Hola pedro mi papa tambien se llama pedro rosell y es de santa clara cuba.

    07/31/2004 01:47:24
    1. Re: Fundichely
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/3785.5.1 Message Board Post: Hello Ines, I haven't been following up this summer. I just got back from Florida, but I didn't do any searching. My dad was pleased when I showed him the 3 Fundichelys that showed up on the list of soldiers from the Revolution. I thank you for that. Ivis

    07/30/2004 11:41:46
    1. Re: Fundichely
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OWEN, OBEN OBIN, OBINE Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/3785.5 Message Board Post: Dear Ms. Fundichely, I have found an OBINE in New Orleans, born in Cuba. Name: Camille OBINE Age: 39 Estimated birth year: <1841> Birthplace: Cuba Occupation: Farm Laborer Gender: Male Father's birthplace: Cuba Mother's birthplace: Cuba Year: 1880; Census Place: 4th Ward, St. Bernard, Louisiana; Roll: T9_467; Family History Film: 1254467; Page: 289A; Enumeration District: 148; Image: 590. He lived with Raphael LEON and they were both farm laborers. There may be a relation to the OWEN as it was sometimes written as OBEN or as OBIN in some places. I had never come across the OBINE, although recently I read about OUBAIN in Haiti, probably related. How is your search coming along? Cordially, Ines

    07/29/2004 03:20:39
    1. Re: dearmas
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: De Armas in Havana, Miami, Newark Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/4635.1 Message Board Post: Dear Ms. De Armas, I knew a Roberto De Armas. He was like an uncle to me. He and my uncle, Jose ("Pepin") Owen e Hierrezuelo, had a business in Havana, in which they rebuild furniture, decorated people's homes, etc. Mr. De Armas has considerable artistic talent. He is red-haired. He was about 32 when I was a child, in the mid-sixties, so he would be about 67 years old today. He and a few bachelor friends of my father and mother would frequent our home (well, OK, they were like my parent's adopted over-age children and we were hoping to marry them off). The latest (I hope it was not the last) time I saw him he was married to a raven-haired, green-eyed Cuban beauty. He lived in Newark, New Jersey. If you find him, please say hello to him for me. Please let him know that my mom, OFELIA OWEN e HIERREZUELO, has gone on to a better life at a young age several years ago. I am still in touch with the Hierrezuelo family, though. Tell him that I remember taping his beautiful voice singing with my mother and also listening to him with my auntie, ROSA DELIA OWEN e HIERREZUELO, singing boleros and tangos and attracting the whole neighborhood to our block. If you know about tango and singing, this is not an mundane talent! Legend had it that his voice held the hurt of a broken heart, from his youth. He did not deny it. I did meet a De Armas, an attorney, and asked him whether or not he was related to Roberto De Armas, but he did not seem to remember him. I told him about how we called him "Colorin" for his red hair, how his mom lived in Miami and he visited her often, how he was quite a Bohemian. He answered: "Bohemian?! Yes, that sounds like a De Armas. We probably are related." Mr. Roberto De Armas is quite outspoken, in fact, he and my mother always wanted to start a movement wherein they could vote AGAINST candidates rather than always FOR candidates. He also got along famously with my mother's brother, his business partner, who could also be rebellious, especially when asked to do guard/security duty on his block in order to maintain his business. He was willing to lose his business rather than walk around snooping on the neighbors, after the Revolution and lived in Cuba as a "freelance interior decorator". "Colorin", (Roberto De Armas), came to the United States and made signs, created graphic decoration, etc. He sure spent enough time with our family to be more than just an honorary member. We also loved his sense of humor and his love of politics, although he never did like any particular candidate for political office. Just a note to let you know that you may be related to a musically talented, artistically talented, very funny at times, very caring man and very loving son. I hope you find him. If you do, give him my e-mail address. My brother, father and I would love to speak with him again. Cordially, Ines Diaz-Owen

    07/29/2004 03:20:24
    1. Re: [CUBA-L] Re: Desperately Searching for Casanova Ancestry...
    2. Wasn't that lady's name Judy Canova, the Minorcan descendant actress from Florida? I am confuse. Teresa

    07/29/2004 01:23:44
    1. Re: Desperately Searching for Casanova Ancestry...
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CASANOVA Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5207.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Mr. Pyle, I have a good memory, despite my centuries of age. I remember reading about a comic actress surnamed CASANOVA in TV Guide, in days when I read TV Guide, which in itself dates the occurrence several decades into the past. She played a secondary role in Rhoda, a situation comedy which was a spin-off of the Mary Tyler Moore show, and that show starred: Valerie ____________. OK, my memory is not great, but at least I did not cheat and look it up. This is all off the top of my white-haired head. The supporting actress' name could have been JUDY CASANOVA. She was excellent in her role, by the way, of a young woman, I would say still seeking her role in life. Now I have a complex about not remembering the name of the star. In any case, I used to enjoy the Mary Tyler Moore show and so I hope that you can find that person. The article mentioned that she came from good Cuban lineage, although I paraphrase, of course. Cordially, Ines Diaz-Owen

    07/29/2004 11:29:48
    1. Re: traveled from puerto rico to cuba (1900-1940?)
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: OBEN, ALVARES Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5272.1 Message Board Post: Dear Nannette, The 1910 census from Puerto Rico is available, transcribed, online. I have been able to find my grandfather in Puerto Rico in 1910. Also, please include in you message the city in Puerto Rico from which they came. Most likely, they lived in Oriente province in Cuba, so you might want to start with researching Santiago de Cuba. There are Municipalidades en Exilio for several cities in Cuba, and of course there is the proud one for the proud city of Santiago de Cuba. If there are any persons remaining who would remember your family, it is worth talking to them. There is an annual fair of the Municipios held in Miami. Some Puerto Rican cities, such as Ponce, have chat rooms on the internet, where you can "spread the word". Look up the web site for the city of origin and read about its history. For example, there was a destructive hurricane in 1899, remembered even in an area known for horrible hurricanes, so that may have motivated your family's move. A decline in the coffee industry caused economic hardship for some, because the United States promoted the sugar industry over the "gourmet coffee" which in those days did not interest them --they could not foresee the future trend of coffee shops catering to lovers of the best coffees of the world. Being informed on your family's trade or business in Puerto Rico will assist you in your research. Where they in coffee, sugar, fruits, retail businesses, government work? That will also narrow down where they lived in Cuba. P.S. My mother's father also moved from Puerto Rico to Cuba and I have spent hundreds of hours researching them. Did you eat Puerto Rican foods in Cuba, especially during the holidays? We did --we loved the pasteles, yum, yum. We had a "taste of the island" although we did not live there, due to my grandfather's cooking. By the way, he was a cook in the Cuban army when he first joined, so many of the first Cuban soldiers ate Puerto Rican style cooking and tasted some of his desserts, too. No wonder he did well in the army --JOSE ALEJANDRO OWEN y ALVARES. He also told good jokes, a new one every day. I hope we can correspond as Puerto Rican Cubans and share experiences. I have wonderful memories growing up with those cultures and a Spanish greatgrandmother in her 90s. Good luck in your search, Ines Diaz-Owen

    07/29/2004 11:29:19
    1. Re: Tomás Estrada y Palma; Owen Estradas in Mexico
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Estrada y Palma, Owen y Estrada Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5374.3.1 Message Board Post: Dear Maruca, Thank you for providing that link to Estrada Palma's history at the library. I hope to spend considerable time researching at that site. I wonder, whether you have come across any connection with the Estrada family of Mexico. I know that Gilberto Owen Estrada, the famous poet, is being celebrated in Mexico this year due to the 100th anniversary of his birth coming soon--Cuatro de Febrero de 1905. Mr. Owen worked in the diplomatic sphere and live in New York City and in Colombia, where he married. "¡Qué más quisiera, ¡triste de mí!, que anclar mi nave! Pero el remanso está lejos de mi dolor; ya el corazón inhóspito arbusto es para el ave, y en mi pecho, pletórico de hieles, ya no cabe el tesoro mil-y-una-nochesco de tu amor. " He too, was a man of constant self-analysis. Please let me know whether the two families connect and how, as it would enrich even mor Mr. Owen's already international story, and of course help to tie President Estrada Palma's legacy to Mexico. Cordially, Ines Diaz-Owen

    07/29/2004 11:29:03
    1. Re: [CUBA-L] From Santander
    2. Rosa Temes
    3. Nicolas,sorry found no 1 in the family by that name. Have you tried the Cuban or spanish website?,Genforum is a good 1.Sinceremente,vostra rosa temes ----- Original Message ----- From: "nicolas gutierrez" <unadetolas@hotmail.com> To: <CUBA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: [CUBA-L] From Santander > I hope someone can give me any information about some lines of my antecesors > tree that I'm looking for in Cuba. > First, a sister of my second grandfather called JOSEFA GUTIÉRREZ ALONSO > moved from San Miguel de Aras(SAntander) to La Habana before 1890 and > married her husband before 1898. > > Other two relatives of the same generation called RICARDO & JOSE MORLOTE > PASCUAL move to Cuba over 1920. > > The father of my Grandfather , RICARDO SEÑAS RUGARCIA, went to Regla from > Tama(SAntander) to manage the store of his uncle Casimiro Rugarcia Rio and > his wife Juana Chavez(from Cardenas) while they were at Asturias relaxing > theirselves.After this, he returned to Tama and had his son,my grandfather. > > thanks. > > If someone prefers in spanish...I do > > _________________________________________________________________ > Horóscopo, tarot, numerología... Escucha lo que te dicen los astros. > http://astrocentro.msn.es/ > > > ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== > ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* > To reply to a message forwarded from the Surname Bulleting Board please follow the link included in the message. > Para contestar a los mensajes que provienen de el Tablero de Pesquisas favir de seguir el enlace incluido en el mensaje. > >

    07/29/2004 06:51:17
    1. From Santander
    2. nicolas gutierrez
    3. I hope someone can give me any information about some lines of my antecesors tree that I'm looking for in Cuba. First, a sister of my second grandfather called JOSEFA GUTIÉRREZ ALONSO moved from San Miguel de Aras(SAntander) to La Habana before 1890 and married her husband before 1898. Other two relatives of the same generation called RICARDO & JOSE MORLOTE PASCUAL move to Cuba over 1920. The father of my Grandfather , RICARDO SEÑAS RUGARCIA, went to Regla from Tama(SAntander) to manage the store of his uncle Casimiro Rugarcia Rio and his wife Juana Chavez(from Cardenas) while they were at Asturias relaxing theirselves.After this, he returned to Tama and had his son,my grandfather. thanks. If someone prefers in spanish...I do _________________________________________________________________ Horóscopo, tarot, numerología... Escucha lo que te dicen los astros. http://astrocentro.msn.es/

    07/29/2004 03:13:01
    1. Re: GARCIA-FERNANDEZ
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: reyero Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/746.747.766.560.1 Message Board Post: Me llamo Natalia Reyero, soy de Leon, España, si quieres saber algo mas y puedo ayudarte ponte en contacto conmigo.

    07/29/2004 01:31:24
    1. Re: Lopez-Silvero
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lopez-Silvero, Ledon, Oms, Miralbell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5460.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Estimado Ed: Muchas gracias por las informaciones. He verificado mis notas y tiene usted razon, se trata de Francisco Javier LOPEZ-SILVERO y LEDON. Mea culpa ! Por otro lado, no tengo nada de Narciso OMS y MIRALBELL (*) ni de su matrimonio con Avelina. Si fuese hijo de Lluis Gonsaga Ignaci OMS y GARRIGOLAS y de Francisca de Paula Narcisa MIRALBELL y RUIRA, aqui le envio algunos complementos. Abuelos maternos: Joseph Ignaci Narcis MIRALBELL, y FERRER (hijo de Manuel MIRALBELL y FONT --hijo de Joseph y Theresa--, y de Maria Lluisa FERRER y SAIZ --hija de Ignaci y Theresa--, casados el 15 de febrero de 1775 en Blanes), y Narcisa RUIRA y LACREU, casados el 14 febrero de 1803. (*) Miralbell es la forma mas frecuente del apellido aunque lo he visto como Mirabel, Miralvell, etc. Saludos cordiales Carlos V. Hernández

    07/29/2004 01:31:08
    1. Familiares Blanco.
    2. Elizondo. Gracias por su atención. Estoy interesada en encontrar algun familiar de Marcelina Ponce, casada con Juan Blanco. Ella es hija de María Marcelina Manso y de Cristobal Ponce. Por los años 1800....Eran de Puerto Príncipe y Bayamo. Cuba. Gracias, muchas gracias. Silvia

    07/28/2004 06:23:15
    1. familiares con apellido Blanco de Cuba
    2. Estoy buscando familiar de Marcelina Ponce casada con Juan Blanco. Ella es hija de Maria Marcelina Manso y de Cristoval Ponce. Son cubanos de Puerto Principe y Bayamo, Cuba. Por los años 1800..... Comunicate si tienes familiares en ese arbol. Gracias. Silvia

    07/28/2004 05:56:39
    1. Re: PEDRAZA - Santa Clara, Cuba
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sarduy, Morales, Pedroso, Silvero, Ramirez, Lopez-Ona, Borges Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/1384.1490.1 Message Board Post: Caridad de la Concepcion Morales y Pedroso (1894-1988) and Juan Clemente Lopez-Silvero Ona whose gggg's was Ana Sarduy y Ramirez (b.1693)...were my grandparents. All from Santa Clara at one time.

    07/27/2004 12:28:54