I asked my grandmother. She says that she was 11 yrs. old when she left Guane and she is now 89 yrs. old. She only remembers that there were two doctors in Guane, Dr. Rubio and Dr. Delgado. Dr. Rubio was her mother's doctor. She wishes she could remember more. Regards and Good Luck, Denise

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Betancourt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/563.1434.1520.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Si he estado al tanto de los errores en el libro del Conde de Jaruco acerca de ambos apellidos y tengo la lista de Omisiones y Principales Erratas, aunque es probable de que haya algunas otras que no me he dado cuenta. Gracias por la invitacion, pero mi Betancourt proviene de las lineas 2da. y 3ra. Mis bisabuelos fueron primos. Mi abuela, por lo tanto fue Betancourt Betancourt, de Camaguey, lo cual desconocia, pues al casarse, ya vivian en la ciudad de Matanzas. Que ironia, vivi en Camaguey aproximadamente unos 7 años y jamas asocie el apellido de mi madre con esa provincia hasta hace unos años atras en que decidi saber algo mas de nuestros antepasados. Mi abuela, Maria Josefa Betancourt Betancourt fue hija de Jose Manuel Betancourt Viamontes y de Rosaura de la Caridad Betancourt Betancourt y caso a Aguedo Alberto Garcia y Lima, de Santa Ana , y tuvieron 4 hijos: Jose Alberto, Helio Onesimo, mi mama : Rosaura Lucila del Carmen y Lucrecia Berta de la Caridad. Rosaura de la Caridad Betancourt Betancourt fue la tercera esposa de Jose Manuel. Y el libro de Jaruco nada mas que dice que tuvieron una hija: Ana Rosa (Anilla ) y ahi termina esa rama.....cuando en realidad tuvieron dos hijas mas: Victoria y Maria Josefa ( mi abuela ) Mi bisabuela Rosaura de la Caridad fue hija de Luis Manuel Betancourt y Caballero y de Ana Francisca Betancourt y Guillen del Castillo ( que casron en: 24 abril 1850 ) Mi bisabuelo Jose Manuel Betancourt Viamontes fue hijo de Francisco Betancourt Varona y de Ana Maria Viamontes y Andrade, casados en oct. 30 de 1826. Gracias nuevamente!

Mis Saludos a todos. Mi Padre ha escrito un peque�o e-libro: http://www.geocities.com/rlp_biography/index.html Con su autobiograf�a. En los tres primeros capitulos, pueden encontrar enlaces y fotos, de sus amigos de escuela, profesores, maestro y compa�eros en la aviaci�n cubana. Detalles de muchas personas que a conoci�, en sus a�os mozo en la isla de cuba. Espero que alguno de Uds. pueda encontrar a alg�n conocido. Lo mejor en 2005 Juan Carlos Lopez Carnicer Only a Genealogist regards a step backwards as progress http://www.venezuelagenealogia.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/54.124.186.264.2872.2.1 Message Board Post: Ana Maria: Mi nombre es Oscar Betancourt Alcalde. Quien tú nombras es primo de mi padre. Hijo de Graciano Betancourt quien era hermano de mi abuelo Temístocles. Ignacio Agramonte tuvo una hija y un hijo quienes se casaron con un hermano y una hermana de mi abuelo. Si puedo ser de más información me lo dejas saber. Atentamente, Oscar Betancourt M.D.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/54.124.186.264.2872.2 Message Board Post: Oscar, Tu eres familia de Oscar Betancourt Agramonte,de Camaguey? biznieto del Bayardo? Ana Maria

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Lopez del Castillo-Del Castillo. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5613.1 Message Board Post: Guillermo.con muchisimo gusto te daria mas informacion,pero solo copie la parte nuestra que es la de Camaguey y comienza por:Francisco de Paula Lopez del Castilloy Banares y Juana TeresaPalacios Betancourt Todos estos datos los obtuve por el libro antes mencionado y los disfrute pues no me eran agenos por escuchar a mi abuela hablar de su familia. Tengo entendido que los Lopez del Castillo se quitaron el Lopez del Castillo,en protesta contra los espanoles,esto fue en la guerra de Cuba con Espana.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5614 Message Board Post: Estimada Ana Maria Cueto, mi nombre es Oscar Betancourt Alcalde. Quien tú te refieres es primo de mi padre. Mi abuelo, Temístocles Betancourt Castillo, tenía dos hermanos casados con los hijos de Ignacio Agramonte. Hembra y varón. Si puedo ser de ayuda en el futuro con mucho gusto puedes contar conmigo. Atentamente, Oscar Betancourt M.D.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Del Castillo, Santiago de Cuba, Oriente, Cuba Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5613 Message Board Post: Ana Maria Cueto.Por favor si es posible darme mas informacion sobre el apellido Del Castillo. Todos oriundos de Santiago de Cuba, Oriente, Cuba.mi Bisabuelos por parte de madre. Amado del Castillo esposa Ines Jimenez 1880-2005. Hijos. Celia del Castillo Jimenez esposo Blass Cardonne, Luis del Castiillo Jimenez. Esposa Isabel Harvey Guerra.Mis abuelos por parte de madre. Francisco del Castillo Jimenez, dos matrimonios 2 hijas y un hijo. Fundador y unico Due~no. De la fabrica de Ron Castillo, Santiago de Cuba Oriente, Cuba. Gracias. Guillermo L. Perez. P.O. Box 6341 Round Rock, Texas. 78683.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Betancourt(de Camaguey) Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/563.1434.1520.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: En el libro del Conde de Jaruco existen varios fallos en los apellidos Betancourt y Agramonte (De Camaguey)Nosotros pertenecemos a la rama sexta y precisamente proximamente vamos a tener una reunion familiar.Si Ud. fuese de esa rama puede encontrar a los del Castillo,antes Lopez del Castillo en el libro de Carraffa Ana Maria.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Zayas Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/582.586.1164.1167.1 Message Board Post: My father name the same as mine (Julio C. Zayas) I never knew my father but my mother states that He - and her - are from Puerto Rico. It is my understanding that my biological father had many brothers and sisters from PR that moved to New York in the 60's Please feel free to contact me via email.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Resco-Prestamo-Celeiro-Parada-Samos-Lozara Perez Rivera da Veiga Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5612 Message Board Post: Busco descendientes de gallegos emigrados de Samos, Lugo Apellidos: RESCO PRESTAMO CELEIRO PARADA SAMOS LOZARA PEREZ RIVERA DA VEIGA Gracias Aurora

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Antonio Alvarez de Leon Classification: Lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/5611 Message Board Post: Estoy buscando a un familiar que fue Sacerdote de la IglesiaSantovenia en el Cerro Habana en los anos 1900's

I am also another descendant of Pablo de Hita Salazar like Oswaldo, actually we both decend from his son Pedro de Hita Salazar. It will be great if all of us get into this! Teresa Sardiñas

<<I would like to join the mentioned organization. I already called Dr. Enrique Hurtado and informed him of your "news," which I think and believe is great. I am a descendant of Pablo de Hita y Salazar, who was governor of Spanish Florida from 1675 to 1680. I am quite certain that he descends from the House of Jimenez, which ruled Navarra from 905 until the Castillian period, which was most responsible for uniting the Christian kingdoms of northern Spain, and the bloodline of which can be found in the bloodline of the Bourbon royal houses of France and Spain. All the research I've done during the past 15 years points to this. Please, let me know what is the necessary procedure.>> Oswaldo, Thank you for your interest in this new project! Currently, the only Cuban DNA that has been submitted for the project is my own (actually, my brother's, since the male DNA yields the most information). It is still in the lab and the initial report is promised for Jan. 9, 2005. The results will tell me things such as certain group Haplotypes (Western European, African, Sefarditas, Norwegian "clan" descent???), as well as if I have any matches in the thousands of people already in the database. Obviously, it will be unable to tell me if I am related to other families in Cuba of which I do not have documentation until we have many more participants that can be matched. By family tradition, I am told I also have a direct line to the house of Borbon. Perhaps we can get some current royalty to give up a few DNA cells for our data base? :) As time progresses and more people join, exponentially we will continue to get much more information on matches. The projects (both individual surname and regional) are growing very quickly. The cost may be prohibitive to some, but I encourage anyone who has spent many, many hours researching for nil, or spent time and money on trips to other countries for research, to consider this as part of doing our "genealogy" business. It is the future of genealogy, and it is here. The prices run from $159-$419 per test, obviously the most expensive being the most detailed in results. All information can be found on the site: _Family Tree DNA_ (http://www.familytreedna.com/) Use the link below to join the project and purchase your DNA test. _http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=L87495_ (http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=L87495) Here is another site that may interest you: _http://www.ysearch.org/_ (http://www.ysearch.org/) Best Regards, Martha Moreira Yunis PS The Cuba DNA Project may not appear on the site until after the weekend. Apparently some people (like the site owner) have lives other than genealogy during the holidays!

Dear Ms. Moreira Yunis: I would like to join the mentioned organization. I already called Dr. Enrique Hurtado and informed him of your "news," which I think and believe is great. I am a descendant of Pablo de Hita y Salazar, who was governor of Spanish Florida from 1675 to 1680. I am quite certain that he descends from the House of Jimenez, which ruled Navarra from 905 until the Castillian period, which was most responsible for uniting the Christian kingdoms of northern Spain, and the bloodline of which can be found in the bloodline of the Bourbon royal houses of France and Spain. All the research I've done during the past 15 years points to this. Please, let me know what is the necessary procedure. Respectfully Yours; Oswaldo F. Hernandez Campos Asheville, North Carolina Tel: (828) 628-2164 E-Mail: oswaldo1129@yahoo.com MARACAMAMA@aol.com wrote: Announcing the birth of the first CUBAN Genealogy DNA Project! Patronymic naming systems only started being adopted after a certain point in time. This may lead to people with different surnames having matches because their common ancestor lived in the same village. For some groups it may have happened at a quite remote time, but for others it may be fairly recent - going back to only a few hundreds of years. Therefore, geographical based projects may be of great help in furthering one's genealogy not only as a way to help enhance the family's history beyond the people's connection, going into the geographical aspects of it, and at the same time giving additional clues in situations of limited paper trail. A Geographical Project in essence traces members of families that come from the same region, independent of being males or females. You can get more information, or join this project by visiting www.ftdna.com after Jan 1, 2005. The service is dedicated to helping genealogists find lost relatives when the paper trail ends and the brick wall takes its place. A painless cheek scraping to obtain DNA that can help accurately determine a relationship with either a 99.9% probability of YES or a 100% certainly that no near term relationship existed. Pricing information is available on the web site. I hope you will join me in establishing a sound database. Your results should also demonstrate what part of the world your "clan" originated in, which may be very interesting to those who are sure they are pure Spanish! Martha Moreira Yunis Use the link below to join the project and purchase your DNA test. http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=L87495 ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Usted ha recibido este mensaje porque est� subscrito a la lista CUBA-L. Para borrarse de la lista *NO CONTESTE A ESTE MENSAJE*. En vez, mande un mensaje a CUBA-L-request@rootsweb.com con solo la palabra "unsubscribe" en el texto del mensaje. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Announcing the birth of the first CUBAN Genealogy DNA Project! Patronymic naming systems only started being adopted after a certain point in time. This may lead to people with different surnames having matches because their common ancestor lived in the same village. For some groups it may have happened at a quite remote time, but for others it may be fairly recent - going back to only a few hundreds of years. Therefore, geographical based projects may be of great help in furthering one's genealogy not only as a way to help enhance the family's history beyond the people's connection, going into the geographical aspects of it, and at the same time giving additional clues in situations of limited paper trail. A Geographical Project in essence traces members of families that come from the same region, independent of being males or females. You can get more information, or join this project by visiting www.ftdna.com after Jan 1, 2005. The service is dedicated to helping genealogists find lost relatives when the paper trail ends and the brick wall takes its place. A painless cheek scraping to obtain DNA that can help accurately determine a relationship with either a 99.9% probability of YES or a 100% certainly that no near term relationship existed. Pricing information is available on the web site. I hope you will join me in establishing a sound database. Your results should also demonstrate what part of the world your "clan" originated in, which may be very interesting to those who are sure they are pure Spanish! Martha Moreira Yunis Use the link below to join the project and purchase your DNA test. http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=L87495

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Baranda Cruz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5610 Message Board Post: Naci en La Habana Cuba en 1951. Mi madre biológica me dio en adopción y pocos dias despues regresó por mi pero ya me habian dado en adopción. Se y conozco que traia conmigo algo puesto para poder ser distinguida. Si eres tu o conoces de alguien que pudiera ser mi madre biologica porfavor dime que es lo que sabes que traia puesto para asi saber que en verdad eres tu. Mi intención es unicamente hacerte saber que he sido muy feliz, que no te juzgo y que me gustaria conocerte si aun vives.

> > Anyone related or know information on the Estrada's from Palma Soriano > Cuba? Or the Hernandez Jay from Guantanamo Cuba? I know that the last name > Jay is from french descent. > > -Jasmine Estrada Hello, I have Isidoro Victor de la Caridad JAY was born around 1876 in Santiago de Cubo or Guantanamo married around 1898 with Isabel RAOULX (Paul's sister) Children : Therese - Lorenzo - Philippe b. between 1901 / 1905 in Guantanamo Isidoro Victor had a brother (perhaps several ?) Henri de la Paz married (1) MOULIN Jeanne and (2) Mrs CARREAU Laure JAY b. Guantanamo 1838 and married Paul RAOULX children all b. Guantanamo : Estalla, Laurence, Paul, Maria, Ernesto, Louis, Isabel, Edmond Happy New Year Helene from France

I grand-aunt was married to a Rubio.....her family nickname was Chelo from my fathers side. Also, the Rubio Padillas....were a well known from Guane. Does anyone have access to any of the churches from there? Thanks...Maru

In a message dated 31/12/2004 08:18:45 Eastern Standard Time, dingdenise@aol.com writes: Miguel, I asked my grandmother who was born in Guane in 1915 and she left Guane when she was 11 yrs. old. She remembers that Isabel Rubio was a famous person before her time and that the town of Mendoza real name is Isabel Rubio in honor of her. She also remembers that her mother's docotor was Dr. Rubio, who was either Isabel Rubio's son or grandson. She also thinks that a family with the last name Fajardo, particulary Alberto Fajardo who are famous musicians, would know more as they always lived in Guane. Right now, she says that these same Fajardo, one lives in Miami, Florida and one in New Jersey. My grandmother hopes that this little bit of info will assist you, even in a small way. Regards, Denise (My grandmother, Isabel Garcia) I am looking for a DR. RAul Rubio...he is my mother's natural father.....I would appreciate any info you might have regarding this Dr. Rubio....... Barbara