Do you have these ancestors' names? If so, you may be able to search the Spanish Archives on the Web (Archivos Españoles en el web). They can be reached at http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/ To use this resource you first have to register as an investigator. You can do this on-line by clicking on the link "Alta de Usuario". You have to provide them with a passport or other "National ID" number. Once you are registered you can enter the person's name in the main text box and do a search to see what you find. You can also select "Advanced Search" to narrow your search to a particular period of years. In most cases you just find a title of the document where the name appears. If you are lucky you may find a transcription. In some cases there is a reference to a microfilm number which I assume you must research at the particular archive (there are no instructions on this). If you are REALLY lucky you may find images of the actual document on line (indicated by a camera icon). If you find a reference you will probably have to write the particular archive to see if you can order a copy of the document and how much they will charge you. I assume you understand Spanish or can get someone who does, since the Spanish Archives are only in that language. Good luck!, Ed At 12:58 PM 3/31/2005, you wrote: >Dear Ed, could you tell me if you know how I could find an ancestor's name >who, according to other members of my family,was given a land grant from the >King of Spain, possibly 100-150 years ago? I also had a female ancestor, >who was >a Lady-In -Waiting to the Queen of Spain, possibly 100-200 years ago.What >could I do to get to get this information? I would appreciate any and all >help on >these two requests.Thank you,Diane > Ed Elizondo Webmaster: http://www.Cubagenweb.org Administrator: Cuban Surname Bulletin Board & CUBA-L list
Dear Ed, I forgot to mention that my ancestors came from either Spain or France and from this land grant started a sugar cane or a tobacco plantation or possibly both in Cuba.Sorry I overlooked this vital information. Thank you.Diane
In a message dated 31/03/2005 14:50:40 Eastern Standard Time, rene.castellanos2@gte.net writes: Prof. Joel Katz Is a Media Arts prof at Rutgers and widely know for his documentary "Strange Fruit". If you do a google search , you can find lots of info on him. Personally, I object to this project. Others have mentioned many reasons. I, for one, am sick of the "color" and "race" arguments that American society is obsessed with. Cubans are not obsessed this way but it seems to me that Americans of a certain political pursuasion want to divide us by pointing to the predominantly "white" Cuban exiles of the 1960s vs. the much moree diverse lot that followed. Enough is enough. Barbara Monzon-Puleo
Dear Ed, could you tell me if you know how I could find an ancestor's name who, according to other members of my family,was given a land grant from the King of Spain, possibly 100-150 years ago? I also had a female ancestor, who was a Lady-In -Waiting to the Queen of Spain, possibly 100-200 years ago.What could I do to get to get this information? I would appreciate any and all help on these two requests.Thank you,Diane
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It simply means that my family first moved to Wisconsin (very cold) and then Florida(very warm) Do you want to interviewed? Why? -----Original Message----- From: oz hernandez <oswaldo1129@yahoo.com> To: CUBA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [CUBA-L] Seeking Cuban-American Interviewees for Documentary Film Please, what do you mean by "...Wisconsin... then Florida..." ? Oswaldo Hernandez fivehiers@aol.com wrote:Jorge, What does it mean to be Mexican? You make it seem like something was wrong with looking Mexican! I have my reservations about this solicitation for interviewees. I am a very proud Cuban. Although I came to this country an infant in 61 and was for the most part raised in Wisconsin, then Florida... I am 100% Cuban. Proud and happy! Good luck if chosen, Maru -----Original Message----- From: Jrpinon47@aol.com To: CUBA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:01 EST Subject: Re: [CUBA-L] Seeking Cuban-American Interviewees for Documentary Film We would be happy to be considered! A few family facts that might be of interest. Both my wife and I were born in Cuba, came to the US in 1960 at the age of 12, met in Miami and married in 1968. We both graduated from the University of Florida. Four wonderful children born in Miami, but raised in Texas. I worked for 27 years for oil companies..Shell, Amoco and BP British Petroleum. Have lived in Texas off and on, between various domestic...New Orleans, Abilene, Philadelphia, Chicago postings, and two overseas ...Mexico City and Madrid postings. Our children now in their early thirties and late twenties are married, and have undergraduate and graduate degrees from US Universities, and have very successful lives. Have one each in NYC, NJ, Austin, Texas, and here in Miami. Their perspective and experience as "white" Cubans of Spanish heritage...one of my boys is blond/blue eyed....is interesting and diverse...especially their elementary-high school years in Texas. My daughter still remembers the day that in Elementary School she was called "Mexican". She came home crying wondering what was to be "Mexican". All of my four children are truly Americans...but very Cuban at the same time...two of them visited the Island a couple of years ago. Let me know if interested... Regards, Jorge Piñon and family ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Posting any personal attacks will result in loss of posting privileges. La publicacion de cualquier ataque personal causara perdida del privilegio de usar la lista. ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Authentic messages from CUBA-L and CUBA-D NEVER include attachments. If you receive a message which appears to come from the list with an enclosed file DO NOT open the enclosed file!!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* For the usage policy rules of this list please visit: Para las reglas de uso de esta lista visite: http://www.cubagenweb.org/cuba-l.htm
Jorge, What does it mean to be Mexican? You make it seem like something was wrong with looking Mexican! I have my reservations about this solicitation for interviewees. I am a very proud Cuban. Although I came to this country an infant in 61 and was for the most part raised in Wisconsin, then Florida... I am 100% Cuban. Proud and happy! Good luck if chosen, Maru -----Original Message----- From: Jrpinon47@aol.com To: CUBA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:01 EST Subject: Re: [CUBA-L] Seeking Cuban-American Interviewees for Documentary Film We would be happy to be considered! A few family facts that might be of interest. Both my wife and I were born in Cuba, came to the US in 1960 at the age of 12, met in Miami and married in 1968. We both graduated from the University of Florida. Four wonderful children born in Miami, but raised in Texas. I worked for 27 years for oil companies..Shell, Amoco and BP British Petroleum. Have lived in Texas off and on, between various domestic...New Orleans, Abilene, Philadelphia, Chicago postings, and two overseas ...Mexico City and Madrid postings. Our children now in their early thirties and late twenties are married, and have undergraduate and graduate degrees from US Universities, and have very successful lives. Have one each in NYC, NJ, Austin, Texas, and here in Miami. Their perspective and experience as "white" Cubans of Spanish heritage...one of my boys is blond/blue eyed....is interesting and diverse...especially their elementary-high school years in Texas. My daughter still remembers the day that in Elementary School she was called "Mexican". She came home crying wondering what was to be "Mexican". All of my four children are truly Americans...but very Cuban at the same time...two of them visited the Island a couple of years ago. Let me know if interested... Regards, Jorge Piñon and family ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Posting any personal attacks will result in loss of posting privileges. La publicacion de cualquier ataque personal causara perdida del privilegio de usar la lista.
I believe that since the U.S. became a Nation, traditionally, there has existed a very strong but subtle bias against Spaniards and Cubans in general, in the educational systems of the Nation, but particularly in the most influential levels of the American news media. The fact is that historical facts and events have been projected in a manner which projects in a very negative manner the actions of the Spanish "bloody conquistadores" vs. that of the English "settlers," which even shared a meal with the New England natives. Have you ever heard of the murder, also in New England, of 200 Indian chieftains with poisoned wine. Have you heard of the betrayal and murder of Chief Metacomet, in New England, and of Oscelo, in Florida? While for example portraying the "disappearance" of the members of the original Florida natives (the Appalachees, the Tequesta, the Calusa, the Freshwater Creek Indians, and the Ais) as a result of their contact with the Spaniards, what the facts demonstrate is that it was in the Carolinas, and probably in one specific mid-West campaign where native Americans were given articles contaminated with snallpox, in order to decimate their populations. There is also ample evidence that proves that many members of these tribes, who were still alive, emigrated with the Spaniards to Cuba in 1763, when Florida and Havana and its surroundings were exchanged between the Spanish and the British governments. I will take any opportunity given to me to to be able to correct erroneous historical data and notions, and this has been taking place for too many, but too many years. It is my intention to allow Anglo-Americans and other Americans to view and interpret the "new" evidence being made available, so that we can exist in a more favorable and friendly scenario. Please, understand that Minnesota is not Florida, of course. Oswaldo F. Hernandez Asheville, North Carolina fivehiers@aol.com wrote:It simply means that my family first moved to Wisconsin (very cold) and then Florida(very warm) Do you want to interviewed? Why? -----Original Message----- From: oz hernandez To: CUBA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 17:02:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [CUBA-L] Seeking Cuban-American Interviewees for Documentary Film Please, what do you mean by "...Wisconsin... then Florida..." ? Oswaldo Hernandez fivehiers@aol.com wrote:Jorge, What does it mean to be Mexican? You make it seem like something was wrong with looking Mexican! I have my reservations about this solicitation for interviewees. I am a very proud Cuban. Although I came to this country an infant in 61 and was for the most part raised in Wisconsin, then Florida... I am 100% Cuban. Proud and happy! Good luck if chosen, Maru -----Original Message----- From: Jrpinon47@aol.com To: CUBA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:01 EST Subject: Re: [CUBA-L] Seeking Cuban-American Interviewees for Documentary Film We would be happy to be considered! A few family facts that might be of interest. Both my wife and I were born in Cuba, came to the US in 1960 at the age of 12, met in Miami and married in 1968. We both graduated from the University of Florida. Four wonderful children born in Miami, but raised in Texas. I worked for 27 years for oil companies..Shell, Amoco and BP British Petroleum. Have lived in Texas off and on, between various domestic...New Orleans, Abilene, Philadelphia, Chicago postings, and two overseas ...Mexico City and Madrid postings. 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Please, what do you mean by "...Wisconsin... then Florida..." ? Oswaldo Hernandez fivehiers@aol.com wrote:Jorge, What does it mean to be Mexican? You make it seem like something was wrong with looking Mexican! I have my reservations about this solicitation for interviewees. I am a very proud Cuban. Although I came to this country an infant in 61 and was for the most part raised in Wisconsin, then Florida... I am 100% Cuban. Proud and happy! Good luck if chosen, Maru -----Original Message----- From: Jrpinon47@aol.com To: CUBA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 11:44:01 EST Subject: Re: [CUBA-L] Seeking Cuban-American Interviewees for Documentary Film We would be happy to be considered! A few family facts that might be of interest. Both my wife and I were born in Cuba, came to the US in 1960 at the age of 12, met in Miami and married in 1968. We both graduated from the University of Florida. Four wonderful children born in Miami, but raised in Texas. I worked for 27 years for oil companies..Shell, Amoco and BP British Petroleum. Have lived in Texas off and on, between various domestic...New Orleans, Abilene, Philadelphia, Chicago postings, and two overseas ...Mexico City and Madrid postings. Our children now in their early thirties and late twenties are married, and have undergraduate and graduate degrees from US Universities, and have very successful lives. Have one each in NYC, NJ, Austin, Texas, and here in Miami. Their perspective and experience as "white" Cubans of Spanish heritage...one of my boys is blond/blue eyed....is interesting and diverse...especially their elementary-high school years in Texas. My daughter still remembers the day that in Elementary School she was called "Mexican". She came home crying wondering what was to be "Mexican". All of my four children are truly Americans...but very Cuban at the same time...two of them visited the Island a couple of years ago. Let me know if interested... Regards, Jorge Pi�on and family ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Posting any personal attacks will result in loss of posting privileges. La publicacion de cualquier ataque personal causara perdida del privilegio de usar la lista. ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Authentic messages from CUBA-L and CUBA-D NEVER include attachments. If you receive a message which appears to come from the list with an enclosed file DO NOT open the enclosed file!!!! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
We would be happy to be considered! A few family facts that might be of interest. Both my wife and I were born in Cuba, came to the US in 1960 at the age of 12, met in Miami and married in 1968. We both graduated from the University of Florida. Four wonderful children born in Miami, but raised in Texas. I worked for 27 years for oil companies..Shell, Amoco and BP British Petroleum. Have lived in Texas off and on, between various domestic...New Orleans, Abilene, Philadelphia, Chicago postings, and two overseas ...Mexico City and Madrid postings. Our children now in their early thirties and late twenties are married, and have undergraduate and graduate degrees from US Universities, and have very successful lives. Have one each in NYC, NJ, Austin, Texas, and here in Miami. Their perspective and experience as "white" Cubans of Spanish heritage...one of my boys is blond/blue eyed....is interesting and diverse...especially their elementary-high school years in Texas. My daughter still remembers the day that in Elementary School she was called "Mexican". She came home crying wondering what was to be "Mexican". All of my four children are truly Americans...but very Cuban at the same time...two of them visited the Island a couple of years ago. Let me know if interested... Regards, Jorge Piñon and family
In the Telefonica (Spain) white pages there are only five Tapanes listed. Been so few I would suggest writing them a letter and see if they have information on the surname. Correos does not show a locality in Spain by that name, so there is a high probability that it is not a toponimic surname of Spanish origin. Maybe your information of possible Arab roots might be correct. Good luck. Jorge Piñón
There is no reference of the Tapanes surname in the Diccionario etimol�gico comparado de los apellidos espa�oles, hispanoamericanos y Filipinos by Gutierre Tib�n This book contains surnames and variations of the surname. I wish you better luck with your search. "by way of Ed Elizondo <ed@elizondo.org>" <gctap@pkfamily.com> wrote:This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tapanes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5696 Message Board Post: I would like to know more about the orgins of the name Tapanes. In the old testament there is an Egyptian city named Tahpahnes. The "H" is silent in its pronounciation. Could this Carlo Tapanes from Genoa, Italy have roots going back to Egypt? Genoa was a major city-state that traded all along the med. sea. ==== CUBA Mailing List ==== *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Please post in both Spanish and English whenever possible. :) Por favor ponga sus mensajes ambos en ingl�s y espa�ol de ser posible :) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: ALFARO Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5698 Message Board Post: Hello, I am looking for information regarding my gr-gr-grandfather and his family. His name was Preciliano Alfaro (married Dolores Delrio). Children were Edilberto, Raul, Rafael, Candido, Anastacio, Emiliana, Josefina. Edilberto (b. 1900 Santiago, m. Ana L. Gonzalez, d. 1972) was my great grandfather. If you know any of these names or are related, please let me know. Saludos desde Alaska. Dan
We have just added to the Passengers data base in CubaGenWeb the names of 228 individuals that were authorized by the Casa de Contratacion to travel to Cuba in the years 1567-1599 (note how few people traveled to Cuba in those early years). You can get to the data base by the following link: www.cubagenweb.org/ships/ ~~~~~~ Acabamos de añadir a la base de datos de pasajeros en CubaGenWeb los nombres de 228 individuos que fueron autorizados por la Casa de Contratación a viajar a Cuba en los años 1567-1599 (noten los pocos que viajaban a Cuba en aquella epoca). Pueden llegar a la base de datos por este enlace: www.cubagenweb.org/ships/e-index.htm Ed Elizondo Webmaster: http://www.Cubagenweb.org Administrator: Cuban Surname Bulletin Board & CUBA-L list
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jimenez Limonta Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5697 Message Board Post: Hello, I am searching for one man or anybody who is related to him. His name is Jose de La Cruz Jimenez Limonta(or may be Jimenez y Limonta). He has the nickname "El Chino". He was born around 1934 in Prov. Las Villas cuidad La Esperazna in Cuba. His parents's names are Maria and Jose. he had 2 sisters and one brother. Their names are Gisela (i don't know the name of the other sister, but her nickname was La negra)and the name of his brother was Remberto(or something like). Jose de la Cruz Jimenez Limonta was a mason(builder) and probably he left Cuba in 1968 or later. He is the father of my mother(so he is my grandfather). Her name is Mirtha de la Caridad Seuret Garrido(she doesn't has her father's name). He used to call her- Tita. She met him for the last time in 1968 and he offered her to take her with him to USA. She refused and it was the last time she saw him or ever heard anything about him. My mother doesn't remember everything. Especially the names of his brother and unfo! rtunatly his own family names. Please, if you have some information repy here or send me an email to alexcubata@abv.bg
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Tapanes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/5696 Message Board Post: I would like to know more about the orgins of the name Tapanes. In the old testament there is an Egyptian city named Tahpahnes. The "H" is silent in its pronounciation. Could this Carlo Tapanes from Genoa, Italy have roots going back to Egypt? Genoa was a major city-state that traded all along the med. sea.
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Diaz Morejon Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kRC.2ACE/3084.3111.1 Message Board Post: HI, my grandmother was Lutgarda Morejon Macias and she married Juan Diaz Alvarez. Unfortunately my father knows little about his grandparents. Do these names ring a bell? Thanks. Juan
Dear Ed Elizondo While searching for the last name Alvarez, I noticed that this surname appears on the list starting both with the English letter A and with the Spanish version Á. I'd just like to point out that the system would not accept a search with the Spanish version Á in the search box atop the column. It therefore does not list the surnames staring with the Spanish version if you use the English version in the search box.. As a test, I attempted to perform another search with other Spanish characters and found that the system would not accept them in the search box atop the column. I think it would be a good idea to only post the surnames beginning only with English letters and correct any that begin with the Spanish version. Perhaps you could pass this along to the persons transcribing the names onto the list along with my deepest appreciation for what they are doing. Thank You Sincerely Andres Echazabal ( Descendent of Luis Areces Gonzalez from Llamero, Candamo, Asturias who emigrated to Cuba sometime between 1860-1868. I'll be looking out for him.)
Andres, You are absolutely correct. I thought I had eliminated all accents from surnames but apparently some slipped through. I will fix the data to eliminate all accented characters (this is what I say in the instructions). Thanks for pointing it out to me. Regards, Ed At 07:21 AM 3/25/2005, you wrote: >Dear Ed Elizondo > >While searching for the last name Alvarez, I noticed that this surname >appears on the list starting both with the English letter A and with the >Spanish version Á. I'd just like to point out that the system would not >accept a search with the Spanish version Á in the search box atop the >column. It therefore does not list the surnames staring with the Spanish >version if you use the English version in the search box.. As a test, I >attempted to perform another search with other Spanish characters and >found that the system would not accept them in the search box atop the >column. I think it would be a good idea to only post the surnames >beginning only with English letters and correct any that begin with the >Spanish version. Perhaps you could pass this along to the persons >transcribing the names onto the list along with my deepest appreciation >for what they are doing. > >Thank You >Sincerely >Andres Echazabal >( Descendent of Luis Areces Gonzalez from Llamero, Candamo, Asturias who >emigrated to Cuba sometime between 1860-1868. I'll be looking out for him.) > > >==== CUBA Mailing List ==== >~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* >The CUBA-L list is non-profit and does not permit commercial messages. >La lista CUBA-L es sin lucro y no permite anuncios comerciales. Ed Elizondo <ed@elizondo.org>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/kRC.2ACE/5695 Message Board Post: Juan my name if frances, my greatgrand father name was Antonio Aranda, his son my Grandfather Ildfonso Aranda they were from Zacatecas mx. if this rings a bell please e-mail me. Thank you Frances.