If you go to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/ All of the records are available on Barbour and everything else she could find. Jane Devlin is one of my favorite genealogists. If you can't find anything there, and I already looked, it might be that he was not born in New London. If you type in "Ray's Place" or scroll through her site, he also has put everything on line. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <king133@juno.com> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: [CTNEWLON] Waterford - Barbour Records > Does anyone know if the Barbour records for Waterford are listed > under the city of New London or do they have their own separate > listing for Waterford in the Barbour records. > I am looking for Thompsons in Waterford. > Thanks, > Charlie King > gg grandson of Joseph Loomer Thompson > born 1821 someplace in New London Co. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! > Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. > Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Waterford vital records began in 1801 and were separated from New London at that time; however, some earlier dates do appear. It's a slim list in Barbour, only about 34 pages. Onhly one THOMPSON is listed--Bemnjamin, adm. fr, 2 Apr 1827. I don't know what the adm. fr. stands for, however. David Hoffman On Sun, 1 Oct 2006 21:57:18 GMT, "king133@juno.com" <king133@juno.com> said: > Does anyone know if the Barbour records for Waterford are listed > under the city of New London or do they have their own separate > listing for Waterford in the Barbour records. > I am looking for Thompsons in Waterford. > Thanks, > Charlie King > gg grandson of Joseph Loomer Thompson > born 1821 someplace in New London Co. >

Is he the Joseph L Thompson, that married Mary Pendleton, in Westerly, R.I., 23 Oct. 1843? Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <king133@juno.com> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 5:57 PM Subject: [CTNEWLON] Waterford - Barbour Records > Does anyone know if the Barbour records for Waterford are listed > under the city of New London or do they have their own separate > listing for Waterford in the Barbour records. > I am looking for Thompsons in Waterford. > Thanks, > Charlie King > gg grandson of Joseph Loomer Thompson > born 1821 someplace in New London Co. > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! > Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. > Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today! > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I donot know the answer but suggest contacting the Norwich Historical Society _http://www.norwichhistoricalsociety.org/_ (http://www.norwichhistoricalsociety.org/) or Dale Plummer who is the City Historian. Sorry I do not know what email, address or number to reach him at. I hope nobody mhttp://www.norwichhistoricalsociety.org/inds that I'm forwarding a message from a researcher who is searching for information on place(s) of burial for people who died at the Alms House in Norwich. If anybody knows, maybe you could post your reply to the list and also copy to Lea Mitchell at the address below. She is not a list subscriber. Thanks! Pat Sabin, New London County CTGenWeb *** Do you have any idea where people who died at the Alms House in Norwich in early 1900's were buried? I am interested in 1900 to about 1910. Thank you, Lea Mitchell in Bozrah,CT _dooshna@aol.com_ (mailto:dooshna@aol.com) Chrissie "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

You know Bill, I have been doing Genealogy for over 40 years, a long time before the internet. Not only did I travel the States, and England, but I wrote letters, and got some replies. I have collected a modest library which I share on "Books we Own", part of Rootsweb. Maybe you should try that root, since you won't join NEHGS. There are a lot of people out there willing to share. www.rootsweb.com/~bwo Not sure it that is the right address, but rootsweb is where you look. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <billmellsworth@comcast.net> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > Hi Bonnie, > I don't want the whole book. I only want the reference for > Pamelia Beebe. I am not interested in the Webster family. I have been > considering joining. I do not wish to spend $75 when I'm not sure what > I'll > be able to find online. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> > To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > > >> Hi Bill >> I think you should join NEHGS and get your history. >> The whole book on the Webster family is there. >> No one is going to print it out for you, that would be a massive effort. >> >> Maybe $75.00 sounds like a lot, but there is a lot more available than >> just >> the "Webster's" >> >> Bonnie, in Canada (but all American) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <billmellsworth@comcast.net> >> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris >> >> >>> Must I join the NEHGS to get a look up? I hate to spend $75 to find out >>> that the Pamelia Beebe mentioned in History and genealogy of the Gov. >>> John >>> Webster Family of Connecticut is not who I am interested in. >>> >>> Bill in Va >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie, Pamelia Beebe came up in the History and genealogy of the Gov. John Webster Family of Connecticutwhen I entered it into the NEHGS. This is why I am hesitant about spending $75; I don't know what I'll be getting . There is no further information which is why I need this reference ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > Pamelia Beebe is not a name that I can bring up. I even tried soundex, > and > it won't show. > Maybe should give me the date and who she married? > Bonnie >

fyi - there are 79 Harrises indexed in the Joshua Hempstead diary (written daily in new London from 1711-1758) I'd be glad to do lookups for anyone - He traveled up and down the coast so many of those named are probably from RI and Stonington areas as well as New London meg smeal

Pamelia Beebe is not a name that I can bring up. I even tried soundex, and it won't show. Maybe should give me the date and who she married? Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <billmellsworth@comcast.net> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > Hi Bonnie, > I don't want the whole book. I only want the reference for > Pamelia Beebe. I am not interested in the Webster family. I have been > considering joining. I do not wish to spend $75 when I'm not sure what > I'll > be able to find online. > > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> > To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:06 PM > Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > > >> Hi Bill >> I think you should join NEHGS and get your history. >> The whole book on the Webster family is there. >> No one is going to print it out for you, that would be a massive effort. >> >> Maybe $75.00 sounds like a lot, but there is a lot more available than >> just >> the "Webster's" >> >> Bonnie, in Canada (but all American) >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <billmellsworth@comcast.net> >> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:33 PM >> Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris >> >> >>> Must I join the NEHGS to get a look up? I hate to spend $75 to find out >>> that the Pamelia Beebe mentioned in History and genealogy of the Gov. >>> John >>> Webster Family of Connecticut is not who I am interested in. >>> >>> Bill in Va >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Bonnie, I don't want the whole book. I only want the reference for Pamelia Beebe. I am not interested in the Webster family. I have been considering joining. I do not wish to spend $75 when I'm not sure what I'll be able to find online. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bonnie Weber" <bonnie.travel@sympatico.ca> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > Hi Bill > I think you should join NEHGS and get your history. > The whole book on the Webster family is there. > No one is going to print it out for you, that would be a massive effort. > > Maybe $75.00 sounds like a lot, but there is a lot more available than > just > the "Webster's" > > Bonnie, in Canada (but all American) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <billmellsworth@comcast.net> > To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:33 PM > Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > > >> Must I join the NEHGS to get a look up? I hate to spend $75 to find out >> that the Pamelia Beebe mentioned in History and genealogy of the Gov. >> John >> Webster Family of Connecticut is not who I am interested in. >> >> Bill in Va >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bill I think you should join NEHGS and get your history. The whole book on the Webster family is there. No one is going to print it out for you, that would be a massive effort. Maybe $75.00 sounds like a lot, but there is a lot more available than just the "Webster's" Bonnie, in Canada (but all American) ----- Original Message ----- From: <billmellsworth@comcast.net> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > Must I join the NEHGS to get a look up? I hate to spend $75 to find out > that the Pamelia Beebe mentioned in History and genealogy of the Gov. John > Webster Family of Connecticut is not who I am interested in. > > Bill in Va > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Must I join the NEHGS to get a look up? I hate to spend $75 to find out that the Pamelia Beebe mentioned in History and genealogy of the Gov. John Webster Family of Connecticut is not who I am interested in. Bill in Va

Bonnie, Bonnie, Bonnie!!! Thank you very much for finding this info at HISTGEN! At 10:29 AM 9/22/2006, you wrote: >They are both buried in the Pachaug Cemetery, Norwich, New London >Dea. Andrew Huntington d 31 Jan 1830, age 90 >Wife Lucy Huntington d 10 Feb 1813, age 73. > >This came from the CT cemetary inscriptions on NEHGS. I' ve hunted high and low in such sources as the Barbour Collections, NEHGR set of CDs covering volumes of the register from 1847 to1994, Norwich published VRs, etc.... For some reason it never occurred to me to check out the online NEHGS databases. I guess because on many research visits to their library I had looked for her . I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner but we were gone a couple of days and then NEHGS didn't recognize my login. I changed e-mail addresses last year and forgot to notify them. Got an e-mail in from NEHGS this morning saying they had now updated my info. Went on in to the Cemetary Transcription database, and just like you reported there they were as big as, hmmmmm...., life. <g> Now my problem is trying to word a source/cite for this info. I guess I'll use something like Mill's model for an electronic database: _Cemetery_Transcriptions_from_the_NEHGS_Manuscript_Collections: _Connecticut_Cemeteries_, "Pachaug Cemetery", online <http://www.newenglandancestors.org/research/database/cemeteries/browse.asp?id=27587&oid=27587&page=1>, at The New England Historic Genealogical Society <http://www.newenglandancestors.org/> (101 Newbury St; Boston, MA 02116), viewed 9 Sep 2006. Question: Anyone out there know where this cemetery is located? NEHGS says it is near Pachaug, CT (where ever that is), Delorme Street Atlas says Pachaug located on SR 138 west of Voluntown, somewhere I saw something connecting this cemetary to the town of Norwich. Anyway, it appears Pachaug is in the vicinity of Griswold. Sooo is Pachaug (a section of) in the town of Griswold, Voluntown, Norwich or somewhere else? I'm not that familiar with the geography of this area even though I host a couple of New London Co. USGenWeb town projects. I'm located in the Memphis, TN metro area. Thank you again, Bonnie. --- Susan sgtwebgen@earthlink.net My Genealogy Website http://home.earthlink.net/~sgtwebgen/ ------------------------------------------------------------------ USGW Mansfield, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcmansf/ USGW New London, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcnewlo/ USGW Norwich, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcnorwi/ USGW Windham, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcwindh/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ ********************************************************* >Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Taylor" <sgtwebgen@earthlink.net> To: <ctnewlon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Lamphere > Cindy and David, > > I'm going to jump into this LANPHERE/LANPHEAR/LANFEAR.... thread and > add one of my brick walls. I have a Lucy LANPHERE who appears to have > been born on Venus, married, had issue in Preston/Griswold, New > London Co., CT, and preceded on to Mars where she died!!!! According to: > > Huntington Family Association. The Huntington Family in America, A > Genealogical Memoir of the Known Descendants of Simon Huntington from > 1633 to 1915 (Hartford: Huntington Family Association, 1915). > > she married 1764 Deacon Andrew HUNTINGTON (1740 Norwich, CT - 1830 > Griswold, CT). They lived in Preston/Griswold, New London Co., CT > where they had 8 children. I have searched the Barbour Collections > and several RI sources as I suspect she was of RI ancestry - all to > no avail. As she married in 1764, I suspect her 1st marriage, she > probably was born c1744?

You finally got my attention. I am descended from John Smalley. Cool. Cindy, I failed to keep the previous e-mails on this. I do have the following taken from The Great Migration: It does indicate that the Walter Harris of New London is not the same Walter of Dorchester. Neither source tells me the name of the wives. I think I should not comment further until I can figure out which is which. Joan WALTER HARRIS Walter Harris appears as one of sixteen names on a passenger list of 7 March 1631/2, taken at the port of London; also on this list were John Smalley and "Edmond Wynsloe," the latter returning from one of his business trips to England, having apparently recruited Harris and Smalley [ Hotten 149]. 8 April 1633: "Whereas Walter Harris had bound himself by indenture to serve Mr. John Atwood of London, under the command of Mr. John Done of New Plymouth, for the space of five years, the said John Done hath sold all right, title & claim to the said service to Henry Howland, by consent of the said Walter, for & in consideration of fourteen pounds sterling, to be paid at three several payments, vizt: the first in hand, the second in November next ensuing, & the third in November, anno 1634, in merchantable commodities, as corn or swine, as they shall be worth at the several times of payment" [ PCR 1:12-13]. COMMENT: No further record of Walter Harris is seen. Some sources identify this Walter Harris with the man of that name who appears later in Dorchester, and then New London, but this cannot be the case. The Dorchester man already had a family, including sons born in the 1620s; this is supported by the passenger list recently discovered by Coldham, for the ship Speedwell, sailing from Weymouth 22 April 1637, which includes an entry for "Walter Harris, his wife, six children & three servants" [ Coldham 185]. Such a man would not have come to Plymouth in 1632 as a servant. Source: The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Cindy Besser wrote: Joan, Are we talking about the same Walter Harris and Mary Fry? Cindy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I've ben a member of NEHGS for many years. Wonderful resource. I just happen to have this fella in my database as he ties in down along the line to others I have been actively researching. Joan Norstedt On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:59 AM, Violet O. Guy wrote: Joan: I haven't been following this, but I shall ask if you have tried the online databases at:. http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEGHS), Founded 1845.

I hope nobody minds that I'm forwarding a message from a researcher who is searching for information on place(s) of burial for people who died at the Alms House in Norwich. If anybody knows, maybe you could post your reply to the list and also copy to Lea Mitchell at the address below. She is not a list subscriber. Thanks! Pat Sabin, New London County CTGenWeb *** Do you have any idea where people who died at the Alms House in Norwich in early 1900's were buried? I am interested in 1900 to about 1910. Thank you, Lea Mitchell in Bozrah,CT _dooshna@aol.com_ (mailto:dooshna@aol.com)

Hi! My Harris lineage: Thomas Harris and Elizabeth Church Martha Harris and Joseph Geer George Geer Am(e)y Wilcox George Geer(Elizabeth Newton) Lydia Adelia Geer(Perry Kenyon Congdon) Abram Eugene Congdon(Flora Dean Miner) Harriet Elizabeth Congdon(James Bard Bill) Ruth Carolyn Bill(Robert Scott Hirst) Scott Bill Hirst,myself I am a Thomas Harris and Martha (Lake)Harris descendant. Relatively yours, Scott --- "Violet O. Guy" <vmguy@gmpexpress.net> wrote: > Joan: > > I haven't been following this, but I shall ask > if you have tried the online > databases at:. > http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ > New England Historic Genealogical Society > (NEGHS), Founded 1845. > > > Need research guidance? Ask NEGHS Online > Genealogist, David Lambert. > (Complimentary Service) > Learn more here thru a LINK on the above URL. > > > There are many percs for members only; and > sometime ago, I used the online > database for Thomas & Martha (Lake) Harris as > their daughter Elizabeth > married my John Gallup III; and these I posted > to CTNEWLON and therefore are > in the Archives for CTNEWLON. There is an > online newsletter and there is an > Online Genealogist, so look for what is > available, when you bring up the > above listed URL. > > Also, you may just telephone NEGHS, and you may > purchase helpful books, CDs, > etc. I, too, looked up the reference cited by > Cindy in "The Great Migration > Begins" by Robert Charles Anderson. > > > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/inde > Archives for CTNEWLON website. > (Since 1997) > > > > Violet Moore Guy > 09/25/2006 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ctnewlon-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ctnewlon-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Cindy Besser > Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:07 PM > To: ctnewlon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris > > Joan, > Good Luck, if I can be of any help just let > me know. > Cindy > > Joan Norstedt <past-lane@adelphia.net> wrote: > Cindy, I failed to keep the previous e-mails > on this. I do have the > following taken from The Great Migration: > It does indicate that the Walter Harris of New > London is not the same > Walter of Dorchester. Neither source tells me > the name of the wives. > I think I should not comment further until I > can figure out which is > which. > > Joan > > WALTER HARRIS > > Walter Harris appears as one of sixteen names > on a passenger list of > 7 March 1631/2, taken at the port of London; > also on this list were > John Smalley and "Edmond Wynsloe," the latter > returning from one of > his business trips to England, having > apparently recruited Harris and > Smalley [ Hotten 149]. > 8 April 1633: "Whereas Walter Harris had bound > himself by indenture > to serve Mr. John Atwood of London, under the > command of Mr. John > Done of New Plymouth, for the space of five > years, the said John Done > hath sold all right, title & claim to the said > service to Henry > Howland, by consent of the said Walter, for & > in consideration of > fourteen pounds sterling, to be paid at three > several payments, vizt: > the first in hand, the second in November next > ensuing, & the third > in November, anno 1634, in merchantable > commodities, as corn or > swine, as they shall be worth at the several > times of payment" [ PCR > 1:12-13]. > COMMENT: No further record of Walter Harris is > seen. Some sources > identify this Walter Harris with the man of > that name who appears > later in Dorchester, and then New London, but > this cannot be the > case. The Dorchester man already had a family, > including sons born in > the 1620s; this is supported by the passenger > list recently > discovered by Coldham, for the ship Speedwell, > sailing from Weymouth > 22 April 1637, which includes an entry for > "Walter Harris, his wife, > six children & three servants" [ Coldham 185]. > Such a man would not > have come to Plymouth in 1632 as a servant. > > Source: > The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New > England 1620-1633, > Volumes I-III > > > > > > > > On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Cindy Besser > wrote: > > Joan, > Are we talking about the same Walter Harris and > Mary Fry? > Cindy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Cindy > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > Scott Bill Hirst 20 Maple Court Ashaway,RI 02804-1301 USA (401)377-4643 Note:Telephone if you need quick reply.Use <scottbillhirst@lycos.com> as alternate e-mail.

The very little I have is the following: Fredrick Henry Harris (possibly son of Henry Harrison Harris and Mary Alvira Harton) m. Grace Ellen Bump. Fredrick and Grace had two daughters Ruth Marie Harris and Gertrude Harris. Chrissie "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

Joan: I haven't been following this, but I shall ask if you have tried the online databases at:. http://www.newenglandancestors.org/ New England Historic Genealogical Society (NEGHS), Founded 1845. Need research guidance? Ask NEGHS Online Genealogist, David Lambert. (Complimentary Service) Learn more here thru a LINK on the above URL. There are many percs for members only; and sometime ago, I used the online database for Thomas & Martha (Lake) Harris as their daughter Elizabeth married my John Gallup III; and these I posted to CTNEWLON and therefore are in the Archives for CTNEWLON. There is an online newsletter and there is an Online Genealogist, so look for what is available, when you bring up the above listed URL. Also, you may just telephone NEGHS, and you may purchase helpful books, CDs, etc. I, too, looked up the reference cited by Cindy in "The Great Migration Begins" by Robert Charles Anderson. http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/inde Archives for CTNEWLON website. (Since 1997) Violet Moore Guy 09/25/2006 -----Original Message----- From: ctnewlon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ctnewlon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cindy Besser Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2006 10:07 PM To: ctnewlon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON] Harris Joan, Good Luck, if I can be of any help just let me know. Cindy Joan Norstedt <past-lane@adelphia.net> wrote: Cindy, I failed to keep the previous e-mails on this. I do have the following taken from The Great Migration: It does indicate that the Walter Harris of New London is not the same Walter of Dorchester. Neither source tells me the name of the wives. I think I should not comment further until I can figure out which is which. Joan WALTER HARRIS Walter Harris appears as one of sixteen names on a passenger list of 7 March 1631/2, taken at the port of London; also on this list were John Smalley and "Edmond Wynsloe," the latter returning from one of his business trips to England, having apparently recruited Harris and Smalley [ Hotten 149]. 8 April 1633: "Whereas Walter Harris had bound himself by indenture to serve Mr. John Atwood of London, under the command of Mr. John Done of New Plymouth, for the space of five years, the said John Done hath sold all right, title & claim to the said service to Henry Howland, by consent of the said Walter, for & in consideration of fourteen pounds sterling, to be paid at three several payments, vizt: the first in hand, the second in November next ensuing, & the third in November, anno 1634, in merchantable commodities, as corn or swine, as they shall be worth at the several times of payment" [ PCR 1:12-13]. COMMENT: No further record of Walter Harris is seen. Some sources identify this Walter Harris with the man of that name who appears later in Dorchester, and then New London, but this cannot be the case. The Dorchester man already had a family, including sons born in the 1620s; this is supported by the passenger list recently discovered by Coldham, for the ship Speedwell, sailing from Weymouth 22 April 1637, which includes an entry for "Walter Harris, his wife, six children & three servants" [ Coldham 185]. Such a man would not have come to Plymouth in 1632 as a servant. Source: The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Cindy Besser wrote: Joan, Are we talking about the same Walter Harris and Mary Fry? Cindy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cindy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joan, Good Luck, if I can be of any help just let me know. Cindy Joan Norstedt <past-lane@adelphia.net> wrote: Cindy, I failed to keep the previous e-mails on this. I do have the following taken from The Great Migration: It does indicate that the Walter Harris of New London is not the same Walter of Dorchester. Neither source tells me the name of the wives. I think I should not comment further until I can figure out which is which. Joan WALTER HARRIS Walter Harris appears as one of sixteen names on a passenger list of 7 March 1631/2, taken at the port of London; also on this list were John Smalley and "Edmond Wynsloe," the latter returning from one of his business trips to England, having apparently recruited Harris and Smalley [ Hotten 149]. 8 April 1633: "Whereas Walter Harris had bound himself by indenture to serve Mr. John Atwood of London, under the command of Mr. John Done of New Plymouth, for the space of five years, the said John Done hath sold all right, title & claim to the said service to Henry Howland, by consent of the said Walter, for & in consideration of fourteen pounds sterling, to be paid at three several payments, vizt: the first in hand, the second in November next ensuing, & the third in November, anno 1634, in merchantable commodities, as corn or swine, as they shall be worth at the several times of payment" [ PCR 1:12-13]. COMMENT: No further record of Walter Harris is seen. Some sources identify this Walter Harris with the man of that name who appears later in Dorchester, and then New London, but this cannot be the case. The Dorchester man already had a family, including sons born in the 1620s; this is supported by the passenger list recently discovered by Coldham, for the ship Speedwell, sailing from Weymouth 22 April 1637, which includes an entry for "Walter Harris, his wife, six children & three servants" [ Coldham 185]. Such a man would not have come to Plymouth in 1632 as a servant. Source: The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Cindy Besser wrote: Joan, Are we talking about the same Walter Harris and Mary Fry? Cindy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CTNEWLON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cindy

Cindy, I failed to keep the previous e-mails on this. I do have the following taken from The Great Migration: It does indicate that the Walter Harris of New London is not the same Walter of Dorchester. Neither source tells me the name of the wives. I think I should not comment further until I can figure out which is which. Joan WALTER HARRIS Walter Harris appears as one of sixteen names on a passenger list of 7 March 1631/2, taken at the port of London; also on this list were John Smalley and "Edmond Wynsloe," the latter returning from one of his business trips to England, having apparently recruited Harris and Smalley [ Hotten 149]. 8 April 1633: "Whereas Walter Harris had bound himself by indenture to serve Mr. John Atwood of London, under the command of Mr. John Done of New Plymouth, for the space of five years, the said John Done hath sold all right, title & claim to the said service to Henry Howland, by consent of the said Walter, for & in consideration of fourteen pounds sterling, to be paid at three several payments, vizt: the first in hand, the second in November next ensuing, & the third in November, anno 1634, in merchantable commodities, as corn or swine, as they shall be worth at the several times of payment" [ PCR 1:12-13]. COMMENT: No further record of Walter Harris is seen. Some sources identify this Walter Harris with the man of that name who appears later in Dorchester, and then New London, but this cannot be the case. The Dorchester man already had a family, including sons born in the 1620s; this is supported by the passenger list recently discovered by Coldham, for the ship Speedwell, sailing from Weymouth 22 April 1637, which includes an entry for "Walter Harris, his wife, six children & three servants" [ Coldham 185]. Such a man would not have come to Plymouth in 1632 as a servant. Source: The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:14 AM, Cindy Besser wrote: Joan, Are we talking about the same Walter Harris and Mary Fry? Cindy