Interesting. For a few years now, whenever someone said, "It's the law.", I have requested the statute number. That request generally throws the salesperson, or whomever, into a tip and more often than not they back off. Apparently, someone decided that by making the statement about the law, it was an easy way to wiggle out of something. One salesman whom I challenged even back off saying, "Well, uh, er, "It's a store law!" <G> Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWLON-L] Certified ONLY Copies? > > I don' t know what the law is in Conn. concerning certified copies. > Here is a suggestion, when the town clerk or anyone else tells you that > you can only get certified copies because it is the law, ask them to > show you the law. It may be that it is county or town law and not a > state law. > > Linda [email protected] > > > ==== CTNEWLON Mailing List ==== > New London Co GenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctnewlon/ > Archived List Messages: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CTNEWLON-L/ > Create yourself a user name and password, and search! > >

Hi! Just a quick question...is it the law in CT that you are only allowed to obtain CERTIFIED copies of Vital Records? I have been obtaining photocopies of many records..here in CT...and never have I been told that I can only get a CERTIFIED copy...that is until I went to Stonington, CT...there the Town Clerk told me that it is the law. Thanks! Jen

Hi Listers: Yes, use these UtilitiesD! I have found them very useful, especially as I have to change e-mail address from Home in Illinois to Snowbird Land of AZ , twice a year. Violet Moore Guy 08/30/2002 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Emerson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: [CTNEWLON-L] Valuable Utililities for List Members > Last week, there was a discussion about not only erroneous information > in online family trees but also a question about how to update email > addresses on old postings. While poking around a little bit yesterday, > I discovered two Rootsweb URLs that may be of help to someone. > > How to determine where your email address appears: > http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ > > How to update your email address in previous files: > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/addresses/ > > Hope this helps someone... > > Linda > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > > > ==== CTNEWLON Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe, send message to [email protected] with > nothing in the subject line, and only unsubscribe in the body. > If you are in the Digest Mode, address to [email protected] > > >

I don' t know what the law is in Conn. concerning certified copies. Here is a suggestion, when the town clerk or anyone else tells you that you can only get certified copies because it is the law, ask them to show you the law. It may be that it is county or town law and not a state law. Linda [email protected]

Last week, there was a discussion about not only erroneous information in online family trees but also a question about how to update email addresses on old postings. While poking around a little bit yesterday, I discovered two Rootsweb URLs that may be of help to someone. How to determine where your email address appears: http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ How to update your email address in previous files: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/addresses/ Hope this helps someone... Linda __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

Anyone who is researching ancestors who were United Methodists may want to read this page from the UMC: http://www.gcah.org/Searching.htm Have a safe end-of-summer weekend... Linda __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

my new emails are [email protected] for personal emails [email protected] for all K9 rescue or K9 nutrition related emails Mary Stickney (Stanley, Stubby, Missy, Bob, Betty, Wilma , Boy , Koko , Shadow) Stickneys Toy Breed Rescue "Don't breed or buy , while those in rescue die." Dogs are like children , They act like the people who raise them www.chihuahua-rescue.com , www.crar.org ,www.ratbonerescues.com , www.weewiddleonesrescue.com , www.puppymillrescue.com , www.bostonrescue.net Who was my Father: http://www.alltel.net/~ms81250/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/XZ.2ADE/1470 Message Board Post: Seeking info on the husband of Wealthy Brown b.10-19-1753 Stonington to Thomas Brown and Sarah Randall.Wealthy may have married a Joseph Cook on 12-23-1769.Would like to confirm this marriage and get more info on her husband.

Looking for children of Carl A. Lilja (Charles A. Lilya)born 1867, died 1937 and his brother Ernst A. Lilya,died June 27, 1939. (wife Wilhelmina) Charle's wife was Chrisitine M. Lilya (Glans), born 1866, died 1926...all from Sweden to Meriden, Ct. Some of his children may have gone to Groton, Ct. Children of Ernest were Eric. E of Meriden, and Ermin A. of Fairfield, Ct. Ernest's grandchildren in 1939 were Judith B. Lilya of Fairfield and E. PArker Lilya (wife Claudia) of Meriden. PArker is listed in the city directory until 1908. His children are Deborah and Michael. I have received a letter from Roland Lilja of Sweden, who is related to Carl A. Lija (liya), b. 1867. Roland and his wife have Lilja(Lilya) family history back to the 1600s. Christine Glans is my great aunt. Deb Glantz Hanna [email protected] [email protected] rsching: Glantz (Glans, Soderlund), Hanna (h),Ives, Dickenson, Griffin, Duprey, Merriam,Stocking, Merrill, Stoddard, Foote, Curtis, Camp,Grinell, Ford, Hall, Spencer, Perkins, Gillett, Yale, Hunt, Olmstead, Lathrop, Peck, Avery, Palmer,Minor, Owens,,Masters, Hubbard, Ranney,Watts,Clark, Noble, Warriner, Dewey, Scant, Hawes,Benedict, Royce, Hall, Parker,Andrews, Gates, Webster, Sanford, Adams, Foote, Stoddard, Bennett, Hinman, Stow, Mould, Kirby, Hawley, Flagg, Bigelow, Boosy, Hurlbut, Kinney, Borden,Pratt, Bennett, Latham, Warrenetc.

Thought when I responded to Linda's query it would come to the list, but it did not. I will post what I sent to her and also some other information I just came across. Based on information I collected at the Historical Society in Lyme, Stephen and Lydia had the following four children: Theophilus, Nicholas, Dorothy, and Anna. Lydia died in 1765 and Stephen remarried to Susanna Huntley. They had at least one child, Stephen. The only Reuben listed in the information was the son of Joseph and Mary (Unknown) Ransom, born ca. 1750. Joseph and Mary had eleven children. Joseph was Stephen's brother. I have not verified any of this information. Much of the research seems to have been conducted by a Josiah O. Hatch and a Harry Ransom. Lyme Land Records 20:22 and 20:225: Theophilus Gates and wife Dorothy deed 25 Sept 1786 to Samuel Beckwith of E. Haddam. Dorothy is named as daughter of Lydia (Lord) Ransom. Note placed beside entry on Dorothy: b. 1756, d. 1855, m. 1781. Theophilus Ransom of Watertown, Conn deeds 24 Sept 1784 "to my natural sister Annah Beckwith and her husband Samuel Beckwith ... piece of land that fell to me and my 2 sisters Annah and Dorothy by our honoured mother Lydia Ransom (Lord) dec'd which fell to her by her father Theop. had dec'd. David

Linda, I'm on my out the door and can't do any real scratching around for a Reuben at this time; however, as David said, Stephen and Lydia (LORD) RANSOM did have at least one son that I know about, Theophilus, b. 1751 - died 1823 in VT. He married a Susan BYRAN. They had 2 sons - that I know about, Stephen and Merritt - both born in Rutland, VT. Like David said, Stephen md. 2nd Susannah Huntley c 1768. My info on these particular RANSOMs comes from: Huntley, Alice P., "John Huntley and Some of His Descendants" in The New England Historical & Genealogical Register, Vol. 101 (1947) (CD; Boston: NEHGR & Broderbund Software, Inc., 1996). Johnston, Jean, "Truman Lord Ransom, 1826 NY - 1906 IA," Ransom Researcher, Issue #7 (Sep 1994). RANSOM research by Oscar Fricke and Jane Ransom Fricke of Mission Viejo, CA, 1988, selected pages of Matthew/1 and Joseph/2 RANSOM sent to me by Michael Ransom, publisher of the Ransom Researcher. Ransom, James R., "Moses Y Ransom 1838 - ?," Ransom Researcher, Issue #18 (June 1997). Ransom, Michael J., transcriber and ed., "Ransoms from Connecticut in the American Army during the Revolutionary War," Ransom Researcher, Issue #3 (Sep 1993). You might browse around on the RANSOM Family Genealogy website: http://www.peak.org/~mransom/ransom.html My RANSOM line is via Stephen's brother Matthew/3, Joseph/2, Matthew/1. --- Susan [email protected] My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcmansf/ USGW New London, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcnewlo/ USGW Norwich, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcnorwi/ USGW Windham, CT - http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctcwindh/ USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ ********************************************************* At 08:43 AM 8/27/02 -0700, Linda Emerson wrote: >I'm not sure if I've posed this question to the list so please forgive >me if it's a duplication. Obviously, I haven't found the answer to my >inquiry yet! > >I have a copy of a 1791 land record from Lyme that shows a Reuben >Ransom deeding land to Abraham Emerson II. Several relatives of >Abraham also deeded him land at this same time. > >Abraham II's mother was Deborah Lord. Deborah's sister, Lydia, was >married to Stephen Ransom. However, as far as I've been able to tell, >Lydia & Stephen had no sons. > >Does anyone have a record of a Reuben Ransom and how he might fit into >this picture? > >Many thanks... >Linda > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes >http://finance.yahoo.com > > >==== CTNEWLON Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe, send message to [email protected] with >nothing in the subject line, and only unsubscribe in the body. >If you are in the Digest Mode, address to [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Young, Mitchell, Chalmers, McCormick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XZ.2ADE/1458.2 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of Andrew Young and Mary Mitchell. I think that they may have come to Norwich around 1860 because Andrew does not appear in the Norwich Directories of 1857 or 1860, but he does appear in the 1861 directory and he and Mary and family also appear in the 1860 census with the John Chalmers family as follows: John Chalmers, 32, M, papermaker, Scot Mary, 32, F, Housekeeper, Scot Andrew, 6, M, CT John, 3, M, CT Mary J (Jean), 1, F, CT Andrew Young, 60, M, Scot Mary, 55, F, Scot Chas (Charles), 21 M, papermaker, Scot Busbary (Barbara), 19, F, Scot It appears that John Chalmers and his wife Mary were in CT at least since 1854, since the three children listed in the census were born there. Last week I visited Norwich and found the headstones for Andrew Young and Mary Mitchell and Mary Jean in the little possibly Scottish cemetery on Hickory St. Until that moment, I didn't know what had happened to Andrew and Mary - did not know that they had made the journey with all the other relatives who emigrated from Dublin, Ireland. There are additional children of Andrew and Mary. I am a direct descendant of their son John J. Young who was born in 1834. Andrew Young and Mary Mitchell were born in Paisley, Scotland. John J. Young was born in Lancashire, England. The family moved at some point to Dublin, Ireland. They were papermakers and allegedly had some special paper-making technique that they took from Paisley to England to Dublin and finally to Norwich, CT. John J. Young converted to R.Catholic to marry Irish Mary McCormick/McCormack. Family legend has it that this caused a lot of friction in the family - a big rift - and I didn't find out until last week that Andrew and Mary might still have been on speaking terms with their R.C. son, because they practically lived next door to each other in Norwich. John J. Young and Mary McCormick didn't emigrate to Norwich until about 1867. The tombstones read: Mary Mitchell wife of Andrew Young Died January 9 1877 Aged 75 years Gone but not forgotten Andrew Young a native of Scotland died July 28 1864 He is not dead but sleepeth Between the two stones on the other side is a small stone which reads simply "Mary Jean" There was also a stone for Barbara Young wife of William Ogden 1841-1883 and stones left to right : Mary Young his daughter 1872 Thomas Young 1850-1909 Janet D. (Davidson?) Murray his wife 1859-1940 I think Andrew Young and Mary Mitchell may also have had a son named Robert. I also think that Mary, wife of John Chalmers, was a daughter of Andrew Young and Mary Mitchell. There was another Andrew Young in the Norwich, CT, 1860 census. He was 7 years old, but he lived at another residence. I do not know why. He was born in CT. You can see what I have on the descendancy of Andrew Young and Mary Mitchell at this URL: http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=marain&id=I345 You need to put the above all in one line for the address of the page. As you will see, I have no info on Charles Andrew, Mary (who married John Chalmers), Busbary, or Thomas. I am sure now that my John J. was part of this family and I would love to correspond with you about all this. Please write to me! Marian

I'm not sure if I've posed this question to the list so please forgive me if it's a duplication. Obviously, I haven't found the answer to my inquiry yet! I have a copy of a 1791 land record from Lyme that shows a Reuben Ransom deeding land to Abraham Emerson II. Several relatives of Abraham also deeded him land at this same time. Abraham II's mother was Deborah Lord. Deborah's sister, Lydia, was married to Stephen Ransom. However, as far as I've been able to tell, Lydia & Stephen had no sons. Does anyone have a record of a Reuben Ransom and how he might fit into this picture? Many thanks... Linda __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

I dont have anything specific---but you did ask for "any suggestions". Perhaps Newell Lester Church's mother Abby (?) was a LESTER--since Lester was a somewhat popular surname from New London at that time--in my LESTER research I've seen many of the daughters name their sons Lester... also the BROWN surname is one that has some connections to LESTERs--hope it helps Dave Lester

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/XZ.2ADE/290.1 Message Board Post: Do you, by and chance, show any relatives by the name of Madeline Bogue? She was born 5/7/1902 in CT. Mothers last name was Anderson and she was also born in CT... Thanks

Dear Mr. Robinson, The Barbour Vital records are at the CT State Library and coming in soon at the Center for CT Studies at ECSU. There are some transcriptions of it online too. Try the County and town sites of the USGenWeb Project http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctnewlon/ and <A HREF="http://www.raogk.org/connecti.htm">Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness -- Connecticut</A> http://www.raogk.org/connecti.htm. You might have census info already, however here is some. The 1850 would be a good source, but I could not find a Joseph and Abby Church. Deb Tajmajer, Volunteer for Census Lookups <A HREF="http://www.easternct.edu/depts/ctstudies/index.html">Center For Connecticut Studies</A> (Public Welcomed) www.easternct.edu/depts/ctstudies/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1880 Census Place: New London, New London, Connecticut Source: FHL Film 1254107 National Archives Film T9-0107 Page 105C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Newell L. CHURCH Self M M W 44 CT Occ: Fisherman Fa: CT Mo: CT Sarah J. CHURCH Wife F M W 48 CT Occ: Keeping House Fa: CT Mo: CT Ellwood G. CHURCH Son M S W 20 CT Occ: Machinist Fa: CT Mo: CT Elmer E. CHURCH Son M S W 18 CT Occ: Blacksmith Fa: CT Mo: CT Flora A. CHURCH Dau F S W 13 CT Occ: At School Fa: CT Mo: CT Emma C. CHURCH Dau F S W 11 CT Occ: At School Fa: CT Mo: CT Sarah A. CHURCH Dau F S W 9 CT Occ: At School Fa: CT Mo: CT Christina CHURCH Dau F S W 7 CT Occ: At School Fa: CT Mo: CT George N. CHURCH Son M S W 4 CT Fa: CT Mo: CT -------------------------------- 1880 Census Place: Montville, New London, Connecticut Source: FHL Film 1254109 National Archives Film T9-0109 Page 682B Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Abigal CHURCH Self F W W 68 CT Fa: CT Mo: CT Daniel B. CHURCH Son M S W 40 CT Occ: Works Woolen Mill Fa: CT Mo: CT --------------- In a message dated 8/25/2002 10:26:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj:[CTNEWLON-L] CHURCH family > Date:8/25/2002 10:26:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > > > I have been searching for many years for the parents of my gr.gr. > grandparents Newell Lester CHURCH and Sarah Jane BROWN. They were married > in > New London, Sept. 1855. The marriage license said Newell was 21 yrs. old > and > born in Groton, and Sarah was 21 yrs. old and born in Waterford.. Newell's > > death certificate in 1883 said his father was Joseph Church and his mother > Abby ? It also stated that he was born in New London. Both are buried in > Jordan Cemetery in Waterford. They had the following children (born in > Waterford): Mary E. b.1856, Walter H. b.1858, Elwood G. b.1859, Elmer E. b > > 1863?, Flora A. b.1863?, Emma C. b 1869, Sara A. 1873, Christina N. b > 1872?, > and George Newell b. 1870? . Any help in locating the parents of Newell and > > Sarah would be greatly appreciated, or any suggestions. Thanks. > > Pat Robinson > Bowie, MD >

I have been searching for many years for the parents of my gr.gr. grandparents Newell Lester CHURCH and Sarah Jane BROWN. They were married in New London, Sept. 1855. The marriage license said Newell was 21 yrs. old and born in Groton, and Sarah was 21 yrs. old and born in Waterford.. Newell's death certificate in 1883 said his father was Joseph Church and his mother Abby ? It also stated that he was born in New London. Both are buried in Jordan Cemetery in Waterford. They had the following children (born in Waterford): Mary E. b.1856, Walter H. b.1858, Elwood G. b.1859, Elmer E. b 1863?, Flora A. b.1863?, Emma C. b 1869, Sara A. 1873, Christina N. b 1872?, and George Newell b. 1870? . Any help in locating the parents of Newell and Sarah would be greatly appreciated, or any suggestions. Thanks. Pat Robinson Bowie, MD

Is this appropiate for this site? It is important. But that is not what this list is for. Carolyn E. Smith ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Stickney" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: [CTNEWLON-L] Missing Child. We need your Help! > > > > > Mary Stickney (Stanley, Stubby, Missy, Bob, Betty, Wilma , Boy , Koko , > Shadow) > Stickneys Toy Breed Rescue > "Don't breed or buy , while those in rescue die." > Dogs are like children , They act like the people who raise them > www.chihuahua-rescue.com , www.crar.org ,www.ratbonerescues.com , > www.weewiddleonesrescue.com , > www.puppymillrescue.com , www.bostonrescue.net > Who was my Father: http://www.alltel.net/~ms81250/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Missing Child. We need your Help! > > > > Please Don't Give UP ! > MISSING > > An AMBER ALERT has been issued ! > Jennifer has been missing since 08/15/02 > > <http://www.sendafriend.com/jennifer/jennifer.jpg> > > Jennifer Renee Short > > PLEASE PASS THIS PAGE TO <http://go.MailBits.com/Tell.asp?11982.1269> > HELP > CLICK HERE > PASS THIS INFORMATION > Someone out who see this may know something. > > Even the smallest piece of information can help! > > Missing from Bassett, in the Blue Ridge foothills of Virginia. > > law enforcement officials said they have made no progress in the > investigation > Investigative leads are decreasing in the case of the missing 9-year-old > girl and her slain parents. > > Police had reports of a vehicle that may have been seen leaving > the Short house not long before the bodies were discovered. > > Police are hoping for any breaks in the case. > > There is the possibility of a red or dark colored van or truck or pickup > > Police are looking to expand their leads. > > > PLEASE PASS THIS PAGE TO <http://go.MailBits.com/Tell.asp?11982.1269> > HELP > CLICK HERE > > Someone who sees this May know something. > If You Have Any Information Please Contact your Local Authorities. > <mailto:[email protected]> > > > *The "Amber Alert," is a statewide alert aimed at aggressively > publicizing kidnappings to help bring in tips. > Such an alert was credited with assisting the recent rescue of two > teenage girls abducted near Lancaster, Calif. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to specials > as: [email protected] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [email protected] > OR click the following link > http://pogolo.com/unsub/pogEnd.asp?list=specials > <http://pogolo.com/unsub/pogEnd.asp?list=specials&idnumber=31659671> > &idnumber=31659671 > (C) Copyright Viral Marketing Inc. 2002. > 847a 2nd Ave. Suite #333 NY, NY 10017 > All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without > the written permission of the copyright owner is prohibited. > (Yeah, but feel free to forward it to your friends.) >

Mary Stickney (Stanley, Stubby, Missy, Bob, Betty, Wilma , Boy , Koko , Shadow) Stickneys Toy Breed Rescue "Don't breed or buy , while those in rescue die." Dogs are like children , They act like the people who raise them www.chihuahua-rescue.com , www.crar.org ,www.ratbonerescues.com , www.weewiddleonesrescue.com , www.puppymillrescue.com , www.bostonrescue.net Who was my Father: http://www.alltel.net/~ms81250/ -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Missing Child. We need your Help! Please Don't Give UP ! MISSING An AMBER ALERT has been issued ! Jennifer has been missing since 08/15/02 <http://www.sendafriend.com/jennifer/jennifer.jpg> Jennifer Renee Short PLEASE PASS THIS PAGE TO <http://go.MailBits.com/Tell.asp?11982.1269> HELP CLICK HERE PASS THIS INFORMATION Someone out who see this may know something. Even the smallest piece of information can help! Missing from Bassett, in the Blue Ridge foothills of Virginia. law enforcement officials said they have made no progress in the investigation Investigative leads are decreasing in the case of the missing 9-year-old girl and her slain parents. Police had reports of a vehicle that may have been seen leaving the Short house not long before the bodies were discovered. Police are hoping for any breaks in the case. There is the possibility of a red or dark colored van or truck or pickup Police are looking to expand their leads. PLEASE PASS THIS PAGE TO <http://go.MailBits.com/Tell.asp?11982.1269> HELP CLICK HERE Someone who sees this May know something. If You Have Any Information Please Contact your Local Authorities. <mailto:[email protected]> *The "Amber Alert," is a statewide alert aimed at aggressively publicizing kidnappings to help bring in tips. Such an alert was credited with assisting the recent rescue of two teenage girls abducted near Lancaster, Calif. You are currently subscribed to specials as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [email protected] OR click the following link http://pogolo.com/unsub/pogEnd.asp?list=specials <http://pogolo.com/unsub/pogEnd.asp?list=specials&idnumber=31659671> &idnumber=31659671 (C) Copyright Viral Marketing Inc. 2002. 847a 2nd Ave. Suite #333 NY, NY 10017 All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without the written permission of the copyright owner is prohibited. (Yeah, but feel free to forward it to your friends.)

Carrie -- Hoping you are still receiveing mail from the list--please contact me... Kim Williams Portland Oregon