John, After searching for years and with help from a local member of this list, I finally received the cemetery record from St. Bernards Cemetery. I am a long distance away, so wrote the cemetery for the information which is now held at the St. Lawrence Cemetery. It took about 6 months or more before I got an answer and I even sent a donation which they returned to me. The cemetery record for the family and plot I was looking for included an entry for Oct. 1876. The cemetery record included five family member's names and month and year of death. Two included the day of burial. The record also included the plot section, lot numbers and avenue. I guess I was lucky. I did try to call the cemetery twice and only got a recorded message. (I think they don't want to be bothered by genealogical questions over the phone.) And yes, the parents of this family were married in St. John's Church about 1860 and when the wife died in 1914, her obituary said she was a life long member of that church. This really doesn't help you, but affirms some of your questions. Helen O'Connor Park City, UT "John L. Knabenschuh" wrote: > Dear List, > > I have been advised that the parishioners of St. John's Catholic Church were buried in St. Bernard's Cemetery in the 1870s-1880s. Is that true? > > Some years ago I visited St. Bernard's Cemetery office and was told that their burial records start at 1885. At that time, I was unable to find any record of a Margaret (Moran) Smith, who died 9 February 1889. Have they since found any burial records earlier than 1885? > > I am searching for the burial records of my great-grandparents - Michael F. Smith, who died 20 March 1878 and his wife > Margaret (Moran) Smith who died 9 February 1889. > > I will appreciate any suggestions that the List might provide as to how I might find the burial place of these two individuals. > > Sincerely, > > John L. Knabenschuh > Garfield, AR > > ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the list send your message to <CTNEWHAV-L-request@rootsweb.com> for individual list messages; <CTNEWHAV-D-request@rootsweb.com> for digest messages. Then put the word unsubscribe in the subject line and send your message. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237