Thanks for your insite Jo. In this case, adoption was not a consideration. The last time I saw my second oldest sister, she was emphatic about that, because her father paid for them at the Gilbert Home. I am waiting now for a return phone call from them. Margaret Bence Davis Joanne Garland <jogar@rcn.com> wrote:During those times if marital problems, illness, death, or economic problems disrupted a two-parent household and no extended family members were available to take the children in, it was often impossible for a single parent to care for and at the same time support his/her children alone. Absence of either parent could place the remaining parent in the position of having to take the children to an institution, sometimes only until other arrangements could be made. It is not hard to imagine that such children could have ended up being adopted. The majority of parents of that time period may have attained only a 3rd to 6th grade education themselves. Thus, they may not have understood legal documents or procedures, and may have signed papers without being able to comprehend them. All of these factors may account for exactly the situation you describe. Good luck Joanne Garland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davis" To: Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > HI, Thanks,that was nice, I was beginning to think nobody was going to respond. Yes, I can certainly prove my relationship to all of the people involved. After thinking a bit more about it, I realize that I need to get some data from the Gilbert Home, in order to discover just when they went there. Right now I have about a four year time span and that may be asking to much for a clerk somewhere to look. I am sure that is any legal judgements were made that it was done in Waterbury, so I will start there. However, I have just learned that children placed in that Home were not all necessarily placed there by the state or court. I have been told that a father could just drive up and leave his children and that would be that....gosh I have a hard time with that. But considering that I remember teh lawyer's office and my mother told me that my grandfather had legal custody of my half-sister, I am left to assume that some kind of judicial action to place. But the questions r! > emain, > did the State of Connecticut step in, did someone in the neighborhood make a complaint or just how it all came about remains a bit cloudy. Anyway, thanks so much and good luck in your own search. Margaret ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== To post messages to the New Haven County, CT discussion list, send them to CTNEWHAV-L@rootsweb.com ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears

Hi all, This message is going to many lists. If you receive a duplicate, I do apologize. Please just delete the extra(s) that fall into your inbox. I no longer have the time I once had to devote to discussion groups. Effective Friday, October 31st, the following lists are being put up for adoption: BIGLER BILLING BILLINGS BOARDMAN BOREMAN BROWNELL COGGESHALL CTHARTFO CTNEWHAV DOWNER GABERRIE GACOLQUI GADODGE INGREENE IRISH JAHNKE KIRSTEIN KIRSTEN KSJEWELL MIIRON MNRICE MNSWIFT MSPONTOT MTCUSTER NEGARDEN RICHMOND TXHEMPHI TXMARION VAFINCAS WIOZAUKE WIPRICE The time it takes out of a day to be a list administrator technically depends on you. Your prime duties are to ensure people get subscribed and unsubscribed from the lists and keep the peace. It's up to you as to how much you wish to participate in the discussion. Most list admins write up some kind of welcome message that show all new subscribers the guidelines they'll need to adhere to. That's it. It's just a matter of realizing that the more lists you take on, the more you'll have to take care of. If you're interested in adopting one or more of the above lists, please contact me at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. On Friday, I'll turn over whatever I still have to Rootsweb. I hope a list member will pick each of these up from me as every one of them are fantastic groups of people. I just don't have the time I need to do a good job for you now. Colleen

During those times if marital problems, illness, death, or economic problems disrupted a two-parent household and no extended family members were available to take the children in, it was often impossible for a single parent to care for and at the same time support his/her children alone. Absence of either parent could place the remaining parent in the position of having to take the children to an institution, sometimes only until other arrangements could be made. It is not hard to imagine that such children could have ended up being adopted. The majority of parents of that time period may have attained only a 3rd to 6th grade education themselves. Thus, they may not have understood legal documents or procedures, and may have signed papers without being able to comprehend them. All of these factors may account for exactly the situation you describe. Good luck Joanne Garland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davis" <marbence2002@yahoo.com> To: <CTNEWHAV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > HI, Thanks,that was nice, I was beginning to think nobody was going to respond. Yes, I can certainly prove my relationship to all of the people involved. After thinking a bit more about it, I realize that I need to get some data from the Gilbert Home, in order to discover just when they went there. Right now I have about a four year time span and that may be asking to much for a clerk somewhere to look. I am sure that is any legal judgements were made that it was done in Waterbury, so I will start there. However, I have just learned that children placed in that Home were not all necessarily placed there by the state or court. I have been told that a father could just drive up and leave his children and that would be that....gosh I have a hard time with that. But considering that I remember teh lawyer's office and my mother told me that my grandfather had legal custody of my half-sister, I am left to assume that some kind of judicial action to place. But the questions r! > emain, > did the State of Connecticut step in, did someone in the neighborhood make a complaint or just how it all came about remains a bit cloudy. Anyway, thanks so much and good luck in your own search. Margaret

Margaret, Don't give up - this list is rather slow, at least slower than it used to be. But your question is in the history and people may search it and be able to help you more as time goes on. I wish I could help you myself but I dont have any knowledge on the subject! -Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davis" <marbence2002@yahoo.com> To: <CTNEWHAV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > HI, Thanks,that was nice, I was beginning to think nobody was going to respond. Yes, I can certainly prove my relationship to all of the people involved. After thinking a bit more about it, I realize that I need to get some data from the Gilbert Home, in order to discover just when they went there. Right now I have about a four year time span and that may be asking to much for a clerk somewhere to look. I am sure that is any legal judgements were made that it was done in Waterbury, so I will start there. However, I have just learned that children placed in that Home were not all necessarily placed there by the state or court. I have been told that a father could just drive up and leave his children and that would be that....gosh I have a hard time with that. But considering that I remember teh lawyer's office and my mother told me that my grandfather had legal custody of my half-sister, I am left to assume that some kind of judicial action to place. But the questions r! > emain, > did the State of Connecticut step in, did someone in the neighborhood make a complaint or just how it all came about remains a bit cloudy. Anyway, thanks so much and good luck in your own search. Margaret > > egodfrey <egodfrey@ttlc.net> wrote:I am fighting about the same battle-trying to get information our ot Ct > records. First, you have a legal right to certain record pertaining to > yourself. Have you tried obtaining a copy of your court records. They may > give you a few clues. I would try the New Haven (New Haven was the county > fro Naugatuck I believe. Check out State Of Conn web site, and then go thru > all of the web sites they offer. They will contain info on how to send for > records. Do you have a copy of any bible records to prove your have a > relationsihp with the ind. you are searching? Even getting a copy of any > newspaper clippings in the town that might anounce the birth of your > siblings and the names of parents might help you prove to the state you want > copies of the birth, adoption papers, etc. Also I believe there are > websites that will help anyone who is trying to get adoption records. > Bood luck. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Davis" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:46 AM > Subject: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > > > > Hello, I am a new subscriber so let me introduce myself. I am Margaret > and although I live in Nevada, by roots are all in New England. I have > always been very interested in family history but it was only when I retired > that I found I could devote a lot of time to it. I have found many cousins > and friends and have been quite successful in several of my lines. I am > also, interested in more than the "bare bones" facts and figures. I always > want to know the 'why's, where's and 'when's' of my ancestors lives. With > that thought in mind I am asking for some suggestions on a very sad part of > my life. It was even worse for my mother. She was married twice and I am > the only child of her second marriage. There were five children by the first > marriage. The oldest three of those five children were placed in the > Gilbert Home in Winsted, ca 1926. The youngest were twins, and the little > boy died when he was about 18 mo's (sorry I don't have the data right in > front of me). The othe! > > r was the > > half-sister closest to me and her custody was given over to my > grandfather in Naugatuck, where they all lived. My sister told me she was > about 2 years old at the time, which is where I got the 1926 date. My > mother, told me a little about this and was always devastated by the loss of > her children. As I remember, she was that her husband had denied paternity > of the twins. She divorced him in Waterbury in 1929 on the grounds of > desertion. However, the children's father paid for their room and board at > the Gilbert Home and both parents made frequent visits. I think it's > understandable that this subject was not discussed openly (particularly at > that time) but I have always wondered what happened. All the principles in > the tragic drama are gone now and for my own peace of mind I would like to > put the matter to rest. I have no idea how this decision was made and by > what court or agency. I do remember my mother taking me to an attorney's > office in Naugatuck. She told me to! > > sit in > > the waiting room and while I sat there I heard you voice raised rather > loudly, and she was saying something like, "But WHY didn't you say so and > so, at that time". It must have been a hearing or court case of some kind. > Therefore, I am asking for ideas of where to look for a transcript of that > hearing or custody case. Any suggestions are most welcome. I have not > included names because although the people involved are gone, there > descendants remain in the area. If anyone thinks thinks they can help me > with this search I will be happy to provide names privately. Thank you so > much for taking to time to read this long post. I really didn't think it > would get this big. Margaret Bence Davis > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! 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Thanks again, I am glad I am not the only one who stays up late......if you're in CT it really is late. Margaret Grace Coffman <glasker1@bigred.unl.edu> wrote: Margaret, Don't give up - this list is rather slow, at least slower than it used to be. But your question is in the history and people may search it and be able to help you more as time goes on. I wish I could help you myself but I dont have any knowledge on the subject! -Grace ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davis" To: Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > HI, Thanks,that was nice, I was beginning to think nobody was going to respond. Yes, I can certainly prove my relationship to all of the people involved. After thinking a bit more about it, I realize that I need to get some data from the Gilbert Home, in order to discover just when they went there. Right now I have about a four year time span and that may be asking to much for a clerk somewhere to look. I am sure that is any legal judgements were made that it was done in Waterbury, so I will start there. However, I have just learned that children placed in that Home were not all necessarily placed there by the state or court. I have been told that a father could just drive up and leave his children and that would be that....gosh I have a hard time with that. But considering that I remember teh lawyer's office and my mother told me that my grandfather had legal custody of my half-sister, I am left to assume that some kind of judicial action to place. But the questions r! > emain, > did the State of Connecticut step in, did someone in the neighborhood make a complaint or just how it all came about remains a bit cloudy. Anyway, thanks so much and good luck in your own search. Margaret > > egodfrey wrote:I am fighting about the same battle-trying to get information our ot Ct > records. First, you have a legal right to certain record pertaining to > yourself. Have you tried obtaining a copy of your court records. They may > give you a few clues. I would try the New Haven (New Haven was the county > fro Naugatuck I believe. Check out State Of Conn web site, and then go thru > all of the web sites they offer. They will contain info on how to send for > records. Do you have a copy of any bible records to prove your have a > relationsihp with the ind. you are searching? Even getting a copy of any > newspaper clippings in the town that might anounce the birth of your > siblings and the names of parents might help you prove to the state you want > copies of the birth, adoption papers, etc. Also I believe there are > websites that will help anyone who is trying to get adoption records. > Bood luck. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Davis" > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:46 AM > Subject: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > > > > Hello, I am a new subscriber so let me introduce myself. I am Margaret > and although I live in Nevada, by roots are all in New England. I have > always been very interested in family history but it was only when I retired > that I found I could devote a lot of time to it. I have found many cousins > and friends and have been quite successful in several of my lines. I am > also, interested in more than the "bare bones" facts and figures. I always > want to know the 'why's, where's and 'when's' of my ancestors lives. With > that thought in mind I am asking for some suggestions on a very sad part of > my life. It was even worse for my mother. She was married twice and I am > the only child of her second marriage. There were five children by the first > marriage. The oldest three of those five children were placed in the > Gilbert Home in Winsted, ca 1926. The youngest were twins, and the little > boy died when he was about 18 mo's (sorry I don't have the data right in > front of me). The othe! > > r was the > > half-sister closest to me and her custody was given over to my > grandfather in Naugatuck, where they all lived. My sister told me she was > about 2 years old at the time, which is where I got the 1926 date. My > mother, told me a little about this and was always devastated by the loss of > her children. As I remember, she was that her husband had denied paternity > of the twins. She divorced him in Waterbury in 1929 on the grounds of > desertion. However, the children's father paid for their room and board at > the Gilbert Home and both parents made frequent visits. I think it's > understandable that this subject was not discussed openly (particularly at > that time) but I have always wondered what happened. All the principles in > the tragic drama are gone now and for my own peace of mind I would like to > put the matter to rest. I have no idea how this decision was made and by > what court or agency. I do remember my mother taking me to an attorney's > office in Naugatuck. She told me to! > > sit in > > the waiting room and while I sat there I heard you voice raised rather > loudly, and she was saying something like, "But WHY didn't you say so and > so, at that time". It must have been a hearing or court case of some kind. > Therefore, I am asking for ideas of where to look for a transcript of that > hearing or custody case. Any suggestions are most welcome. I have not > included names because although the people involved are gone, there > descendants remain in the area. If anyone thinks thinks they can help me > with this search I will be happy to provide names privately. Thank you so > much for taking to time to read this long post. I really didn't think it > would get this big. Margaret Bence Davis > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > > > > ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== > > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This > infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. 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HI, Thanks,that was nice, I was beginning to think nobody was going to respond. Yes, I can certainly prove my relationship to all of the people involved. After thinking a bit more about it, I realize that I need to get some data from the Gilbert Home, in order to discover just when they went there. Right now I have about a four year time span and that may be asking to much for a clerk somewhere to look. I am sure that is any legal judgements were made that it was done in Waterbury, so I will start there. However, I have just learned that children placed in that Home were not all necessarily placed there by the state or court. I have been told that a father could just drive up and leave his children and that would be that....gosh I have a hard time with that. But considering that I remember teh lawyer's office and my mother told me that my grandfather had legal custody of my half-sister, I am left to assume that some kind of judicial action to place. But the questions r! emain, did the State of Connecticut step in, did someone in the neighborhood make a complaint or just how it all came about remains a bit cloudy. Anyway, thanks so much and good luck in your own search. Margaret egodfrey <egodfrey@ttlc.net> wrote:I am fighting about the same battle-trying to get information our ot Ct records. First, you have a legal right to certain record pertaining to yourself. Have you tried obtaining a copy of your court records. They may give you a few clues. I would try the New Haven (New Haven was the county fro Naugatuck I believe. Check out State Of Conn web site, and then go thru all of the web sites they offer. They will contain info on how to send for records. Do you have a copy of any bible records to prove your have a relationsihp with the ind. you are searching? Even getting a copy of any newspaper clippings in the town that might anounce the birth of your siblings and the names of parents might help you prove to the state you want copies of the birth, adoption papers, etc. Also I believe there are websites that will help anyone who is trying to get adoption records. Bood luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davis" To: Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:46 AM Subject: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > Hello, I am a new subscriber so let me introduce myself. I am Margaret and although I live in Nevada, by roots are all in New England. I have always been very interested in family history but it was only when I retired that I found I could devote a lot of time to it. I have found many cousins and friends and have been quite successful in several of my lines. I am also, interested in more than the "bare bones" facts and figures. I always want to know the 'why's, where's and 'when's' of my ancestors lives. With that thought in mind I am asking for some suggestions on a very sad part of my life. It was even worse for my mother. She was married twice and I am the only child of her second marriage. There were five children by the first marriage. The oldest three of those five children were placed in the Gilbert Home in Winsted, ca 1926. The youngest were twins, and the little boy died when he was about 18 mo's (sorry I don't have the data right in front of me). The othe! > r was the > half-sister closest to me and her custody was given over to my grandfather in Naugatuck, where they all lived. My sister told me she was about 2 years old at the time, which is where I got the 1926 date. My mother, told me a little about this and was always devastated by the loss of her children. As I remember, she was that her husband had denied paternity of the twins. She divorced him in Waterbury in 1929 on the grounds of desertion. However, the children's father paid for their room and board at the Gilbert Home and both parents made frequent visits. I think it's understandable that this subject was not discussed openly (particularly at that time) but I have always wondered what happened. All the principles in the tragic drama are gone now and for my own peace of mind I would like to put the matter to rest. I have no idea how this decision was made and by what court or agency. I do remember my mother taking me to an attorney's office in Naugatuck. She told me to! > sit in > the waiting room and while I sat there I heard you voice raised rather loudly, and she was saying something like, "But WHY didn't you say so and so, at that time". It must have been a hearing or court case of some kind. Therefore, I am asking for ideas of where to look for a transcript of that hearing or custody case. Any suggestions are most welcome. I have not included names because although the people involved are gone, there descendants remain in the area. If anyone thinks thinks they can help me with this search I will be happy to provide names privately. Thank you so much for taking to time to read this long post. I really didn't think it would get this big. Margaret Bence Davis > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. 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I am fighting about the same battle-trying to get information our ot Ct records. First, you have a legal right to certain record pertaining to yourself. Have you tried obtaining a copy of your court records. They may give you a few clues. I would try the New Haven (New Haven was the county fro Naugatuck I believe. Check out State Of Conn web site, and then go thru all of the web sites they offer. They will contain info on how to send for records. Do you have a copy of any bible records to prove your have a relationsihp with the ind. you are searching? Even getting a copy of any newspaper clippings in the town that might anounce the birth of your siblings and the names of parents might help you prove to the state you want copies of the birth, adoption papers, etc. Also I believe there are websites that will help anyone who is trying to get adoption records. Bood luck. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Davis" <marbence2002@yahoo.com> To: <CTNEWHAV-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:46 AM Subject: [CTNEWHAV] 1926-Naugatuck Children Placed in Home > Hello, I am a new subscriber so let me introduce myself. I am Margaret and although I live in Nevada, by roots are all in New England. I have always been very interested in family history but it was only when I retired that I found I could devote a lot of time to it. I have found many cousins and friends and have been quite successful in several of my lines. I am also, interested in more than the "bare bones" facts and figures. I always want to know the 'why's, where's and 'when's' of my ancestors lives. With that thought in mind I am asking for some suggestions on a very sad part of my life. It was even worse for my mother. She was married twice and I am the only child of her second marriage. There were five children by the first marriage. The oldest three of those five children were placed in the Gilbert Home in Winsted, ca 1926. The youngest were twins, and the little boy died when he was about 18 mo's (sorry I don't have the data right in front of me). The othe! > r was the > half-sister closest to me and her custody was given over to my grandfather in Naugatuck, where they all lived. My sister told me she was about 2 years old at the time, which is where I got the 1926 date. My mother, told me a little about this and was always devastated by the loss of her children. As I remember, she was that her husband had denied paternity of the twins. She divorced him in Waterbury in 1929 on the grounds of desertion. However, the children's father paid for their room and board at the Gilbert Home and both parents made frequent visits. I think it's understandable that this subject was not discussed openly (particularly at that time) but I have always wondered what happened. All the principles in the tragic drama are gone now and for my own peace of mind I would like to put the matter to rest. I have no idea how this decision was made and by what court or agency. I do remember my mother taking me to an attorney's office in Naugatuck. She told me to! > sit in > the waiting room and while I sat there I heard you voice raised rather loudly, and she was saying something like, "But WHY didn't you say so and so, at that time". It must have been a hearing or court case of some kind. Therefore, I am asking for ideas of where to look for a transcript of that hearing or custody case. Any suggestions are most welcome. I have not included names because although the people involved are gone, there descendants remain in the area. If anyone thinks thinks they can help me with this search I will be happy to provide names privately. Thank you so much for taking to time to read this long post. I really didn't think it would get this big. Margaret Bence Davis > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > > > ==== CTNEWHAV Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Marie Bertha Keller b. abt 1885 Germany, daughter of George and Letta Keller. George A. Hahn b. 1883 CT s/o Fred & Jenny Lyon Hahn George Hahn married Marie Bertha Keller in 1906; both listed Bridgeport as their address in their 1906 certificate of marriage - and divorced shortly Appreciate contact from anyone knowing of this family. Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com

William Remsen b. abt 1879 married Jennie Hahn b. 1882 CT parents of Florence Esther Remsen b 1913 CT who married Harold H. Rose and Frances LeBlanc Florence died 10-8-1993, age 80 @ Fairfield County, CT Appreciate contact from any descendants. Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com

Hello, I am a new subscriber so let me introduce myself. I am Margaret and although I live in Nevada, by roots are all in New England. I have always been very interested in family history but it was only when I retired that I found I could devote a lot of time to it. I have found many cousins and friends and have been quite successful in several of my lines. I am also, interested in more than the "bare bones" facts and figures. I always want to know the 'why's, where's and 'when's' of my ancestors lives. With that thought in mind I am asking for some suggestions on a very sad part of my life. It was even worse for my mother. She was married twice and I am the only child of her second marriage. There were five children by the first marriage. The oldest three of those five children were placed in the Gilbert Home in Winsted, ca 1926. The youngest were twins, and the little boy died when he was about 18 mo's (sorry I don't have the data right in front of me). The othe! r was the half-sister closest to me and her custody was given over to my grandfather in Naugatuck, where they all lived. My sister told me she was about 2 years old at the time, which is where I got the 1926 date. My mother, told me a little about this and was always devastated by the loss of her children. As I remember, she was that her husband had denied paternity of the twins. She divorced him in Waterbury in 1929 on the grounds of desertion. However, the children's father paid for their room and board at the Gilbert Home and both parents made frequent visits. I think it's understandable that this subject was not discussed openly (particularly at that time) but I have always wondered what happened. All the principles in the tragic drama are gone now and for my own peace of mind I would like to put the matter to rest. I have no idea how this decision was made and by what court or agency. I do remember my mother taking me to an attorney's office in Naugatuck. She told me to! sit in the waiting room and while I sat there I heard you voice raised rather loudly, and she was saying something like, "But WHY didn't you say so and so, at that time". It must have been a hearing or court case of some kind. Therefore, I am asking for ideas of where to look for a transcript of that hearing or custody case. Any suggestions are most welcome. I have not included names because although the people involved are gone, there descendants remain in the area. If anyone thinks thinks they can help me with this search I will be happy to provide names privately. Thank you so much for taking to time to read this long post. I really didn't think it would get this big. Margaret Bence Davis --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search

HAHN SURNAME: George Marquis Hahn 1818 (Germany) - 1887 CT Frederick August Hahn 1860 Ct - 1914 CT George August Hahn 1883 CT - 1947 Chicago Jennie Doreta Hahn 1882 Ct - 1919 Ct married Wm. Remsen their daughter Florence Esther Remsen 1913 Ct - 1993 CT she married Rose and LeBlanc

Hello Everyone: I am looking for the grave of my gg grandfather, Gilbert S. Duryee, somewhere in New Haven County. On November 02, 1884, his stepdaughter, Clara Jane Holland Welton, and her husband, Oliver Welton, and their son, Herbert, moved from the Town of Mount Morris, Livingston County, New York, to join the First Congregational Church in Cheshire, New Haven County, Connecticut. I have written to this church and am awaiting a reply. I believe that Gilbert also migrated with them as he was listed in the 1889 - 1891 Waterbury, Connecticut Directories: Gilbert S. Duryee farmer off Cheshire road n shearshop Waterbury CT 1889 Gilbert S. Duryee farmer off Cheshire road n shear shop Waterbury CT 1890 Gilbert S. Duryee farmer off Cheshire road n shear shop Waterbury CT 1891 I have a question regarding these entries. They list him as a farmer off Cheshire road. What does the "n shearshop" mean? Was this a reference that he was also operating a shearshop or does it refer to a location off Cheshire Road? Gilbert S. Duryee was born in 1822 in Livingston County, New York. I have no idea when and where he died or was buried. I would really appreciate any information anyone may have on my gg grandfather and/or his stepdaughter and her family. I want to thank you in advance for your help. In Christ, Ron Powell

To all Connecticut researchers, Please take note that The Hubbell Family Historical Society has in its library in Hubbell Center in Des Moines, Iowa, a fine collection of over 175 books on the Connecticut shelf which may be useful to you in your research. While they are not available for circulation outside the library, Patricia Dawson, our librarian and curator, will look up items in the books for researchers, and either e-mail or fax copies to them for a nominal fee for copying, etc. The collection grows daily, and we always welcome donations of Connecticut related materials, as Hubbell Center is a not for profit, 501(c)(3) organization incorporated in Iowa under the auspices of the Hubbell Family. You may see the list of books on our web site at www.hubbell.org. When entering the site, look to the left column and click on Hubbell Center. Look to the left again and click on "Contents of the Connecticut Shelf" which will take you to the entire list. You may go directly there through this URL, http://hubbell.org/hubcent_CT.htm We hope that the collection is helpful to you and would welcome your comments. Carol Hubbell Boggs, President The Hubbell Family Historical Society www.hubbell.org HubbellGen@aol.com

Some years ago I copied a couple pages from a book entitled "Historical Sketches of the Town of Milford", printed in 1914. One page was a map of the town dated Sept 1835 (or 33, or 55) by E. R. Lambert. It shows all the streets, where the houses were, and who lived in them. My copy is 8 1/2 by 11" and the tiny print is extremely hard to read. I'm wondering if anyone knows of a website that has this map reproduced in a form that is large enough to read, or if any of the mapmakers have reprinted it in a chart-sized map that would likewise be more legible. I tried enlarging it on my copier but it is just too blurry to read. Thanks, Diane

I am looking for information on Dwight Hall, b. abt. 1814 and Hezekiah Hall, b. abt. 1817. I believe they were brothers and need parents and other siblings. They were farmers in Wallingford in 1850. Thanks, June

Hi, After I sent my 1st message earlier today concerning the surname BAKEIN and a look-up of 1900-1920 Census or City Directories, I sat looking at the surname and decided I just might need to consider maybe it was originally written phonetically and is, in reality, BACON. Sounds good to me because it would be more of a French name. Hope someone can help me out on this. Many thanks. Joan in NYS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/03

Hi, This is my 1st time on this list and am trying to track down a great aunt Sophronia (Fanny)Barreau/Borrow nee Petel, who allegedly moved to New Haven having married a gentleman by the name of N.Bakein from said place. This is as written in a baptismal record at Notre-Dame Ch., Malone, NY. He was her 2nd spouse. The time frame could be around 1890 - 1900. Would it be possible for SKS to do a census look-up for this period, or even a city directory look-up would be helpful. Many thanks for any assistance. Joan in NYS --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.522 / Virus Database: 320 - Release Date: 9/29/03

Is anyone out there really familiar with Milford's records, especially probate? I have a document that came out of a rev war pension file that was written by the Milford Probate court in Dec 1844. A name was crossed out in the document. In Jan 1845 the same document was rewritten but without the crossed out name. I was in CT this week and looked in the filmed Milford probate books, but they did not contain copies of either document, or, what I really wanted, an explanation for the rewrite. I was wondering if they have more than one set of books kept by the probate court, with the documents in question being recorded separately from all the wills, distributions, etc, that filled the book I looked in on film. I'm back in Oklahoma now and cannot go look in person in Milford. Any suggestions appreciated. Diane in OK BTW, I checked the New Haven probate books on film but no luck there either. I know Milford probate was once in the New Haven district.

Bethel, Fairfield Co., CT 1920 Census Charles H. Hahn, age 58, b. Michigan William A. Hahn, age 33, b CT Bridgeport, Fairfield Co., CT 1920 Census Phelix Hahn, age 35, b. Germany Gertrude Hahn, age 35, b. Vermont (this is 2nd wife of my great-grandfather, Frederick August Hahn - any information?) Arthur Hahn, ag 30, b. NY Darien, Fairfield Co., CT Robert NM Hahn, age 37, b. Bremen Greenwich CT Edith Hahn, age 44, b England Norwalk CT Joseph Hahn, age 61, b. NJ George Hahn, age 48, b. Germany in Stamford CT William Hahn, age 35, b. NY in Burlington CT Adolph J. Hahn, age 34, b. Mass in East Windsor CT Gustave Hahn, age 57, b. Sachen/Saxony in E. Windsor CT Hartford CT Margaret Hahn, age 68, b. Germany Mary Hahn, age 79, b. Switzerland Annie Hahn, age 52, b. CT Isaac Hahn, age 52 b Russia New Britain CT Charles Hahn, age 33, b. Magyarorszag; Austria Jacob D. Hahn, age 60, b. Ohio Frank R. Hahn, age 30, b. CT Henry Hahn, age 37 b. CT Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com Ford County, Il volunteer

in the 1920 New Britain, Hartford Co, CT census, I find: Henry Hahn, self, age 37, b. CT father b. Germany mother b. Germany Ella Hahn, wife, age 35 b. (looks like Sweden?) Millard?/Willard? daughter, age 11 b. CT Fred H. Hahn, son, age 7 Elove? Hahn, daughter, age 6 Math? Hahn, daughter, age 3-1/2 Newman Hahn, son, age 1-9/12 - all b. CT Any descendants/ information? Gail Hahn Hutchcraft ladybug@arends-sons.com