Hi Norris, I have not seriously chased this line back beyond these shores and only have "Spencers of the Great Migration" right now as source other than LDS which I take with a grain of salt until I can locate some serious, solid research. It sounds like you are as finicky as I am. However, Jerry England who is also a descendant has e-mailed me the marriage date from the records in Lynn, MA for Gerard and Hannah's marriage. I quote Jerry "On 17 Dec 1636 when Gerard was 22, he married (1) Hannah HILLS, in Lynn, Essex, MA. Born abt 1618 in England. Hannah died in Haddam, Middlesex, CT bef Oct 1683; she was 65." I am posting this to the list because these are the very things that need to be shared and discussed in an open forum to resolve questions. I would love to get more information rolling to the masses from original sources like the one Jerry just sent me. Where did you get the Lynn reference, Jerry? Gail Norris wrote: > > On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:01:27 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hi Dave, > > > >My line of descent is from: > > > >John (John, John, Robert, Henry, Thomas) Spencer, b. 1505, m. Anne > >Merrill, d 1560, he d. 1550. > > Spencers of the Great Migration, p 2, shows another Thomas between > Robert and Henry above??. > > It should also be noted that the placement of Henry and Isabella in > the above scheme conflicts, timewise, with the date of death of Henry, > husband of Isabella Lincoln, 1478, given in Ancestors of American > Presidents. AAP also does not show the Spencer brothers as cousins to > the four Spencer presidents in his book. The top two levels in SOTGM > are questionable, in my opinion. > > >Gerard Spencer, bpt 25 Apr 1614 at Stotfold, Bedfordshhire m.(1) Hannah > >Hills("The Spencers of the Great Migration"), d. before 1683 (Gerard's > >will), m.(2) in 1677 at Saybrook,CT, Rebecca(Porter)Clark, daughter of > >John and Anne(White) Porter, he d. ca 1685. ( It is possible he was > >marries to two different Hannahs first. One in 1635, and then Hannah > >Hills) > > It should also be noted that the surname Hills, in SOTGM, for Gerard's > wife, only comes from IGI records. Likely not a reliable record in > this case. This would mean that all the Spencer researchers heretofore > missed this in Vital Records?? I seriously doubt the use of the name > Hills for her. I am surprised the SOTGM would use the IGI as a source > in a published genealogy. > > As I understand it, the only "logic" used for having the second wife > is an unaccounted-for "Rebecca Spencer" who died in early days in > either Haddam or Norwich, I forget right now. An earlier researcher > concluded this must have been a Porter for some reason, and the only > "logical" place for her in the Spencer tree was with Gerard. No direct > evidence was given. Do you know of any more evidence for this second > wife? Do you know where does the date 1677 come from?? > > Thanks for your support. > > Norris > > -- > Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> > Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html > --------------------------------------- > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Middlesex County, CT Mailing List > List Owner - Jane Devlin JaneDevlin@netquest.com