It appears to be out of business for good since it was hacked over a year ago. Savage's Dictionary text files can still be found at http://www.usigs.org/library/books/ma/savage/savage.htm Debbie's and my Web-based (HTML) version of Savage at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/vt/state/savage/ currently is VERY slow to load -- usgennet is revamping its servers and installing another T-1 connection to the Net. This should be done in a couple of weeks and things should be faster than before. Debbie did a super job of designing the pages and honchoing their installation on usgennet. HTH Someone, Warren Wetmore