Carole, I noticed in your list of surnames, the name MACK. My ancestor, Joel FOX, possibly married a woman with this surname. Her name was Elathene or Alethia or something similar. Wondering if you have any possible matches from your family. They had at least 2 sons, Henry and Gustavus, born in 1806 and 1810 around Saybrook. Thanks, Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Buehler" <carolebuehler@sbcglobal.net> To: <CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] ROLL CALL:BRAINERD,GATES,CHAPMAN AND >I have many ancestors that were either born in or came to E.Haddam, >married > and died there. Would say have been fairly lucky in that these guys just > stayed in the same place or tended to stay in the state. My CHAPMAN line > started with Robert of Saybrook, then the line migrated to E Haddam, my > grandfather was Samuel C. CHAPMAN who did move on to Chaplin CT. I have > two > BRAINERD lines, from the same Brainerd parents, Daniel BRAINERD and Hannah > SPENCER. I also have two GATES lines, which if not mistaken go back to > Capt > George GATES and wife Sarah OLMSTEAD. VENTRES, ACKLEY, ANDREWS, KIRBY, > LEE, > SMITH, MACK, HUNGERFORD, ROWLEY, > FULLER ,WINSLOW, GRAY/GREEN, FLETCHER, PORTER, GRISWOLD, STEVENS CHURCH, > DOAN/E, > I also have Huldah MAINWARING, b. E. Lyme CT 1800, married Beri GATES > 1819, > in E Haddam,died E. Haddam 1866. Would appreciate any info on her > parents. All of these people were in the 1600's 1700's and 1800's. > Am sure I missed a few, but if anyone needs any info on any of these > names, > will be most happy to share what I have. > Carole CT

I am not positive that the information below is all correct, but I am trying to confirm that Benjamin HICKOX (son of John HICKOX and Mary GAYLORD) married Huldah HOLMES (daughter of Eliphalet HOLMES and Damaris WATERHOUSE); and that Benjamin and Huldah were the parents of Damaris HICKOX - b. about 1772 in Conway, MA. The HICKOX family appears to have started out in East Haddam, CT and then migrated up to the Conway and Williamsburg, MA area. Is anyone doing research on these families? Thanks. Darryl Brown/Santa Fe, NM Generation No.1 1. ELIPHALET4 HOLMES (JOHN3, THOMAS2, THOMAS1) was born July 12, 1722 in East Haddam, New London, Connecticut, and died November 30, 1743 in East Haddam, New London, Connecticut. He married DAMARIS WATERHOUSE January 25, 1741/42 in East Haddam, New London, Connecticut, daughter of BENJAMIN WATERHOUSE and DAMARIS WARD. She was born Abt. 1722. Children of ELIPHALET HOLMES and DAMARIS WATERHOUSE are: i. PATIENCE5 HOLMES, b. Abt. 1742. 2. ii. HULDAH HOLMES, b. August 19, 1743, East Haddam, New London, Connecticut. Generation No. 2 2. HULDAH5 HOLMES (ELIPHALET4, JOHN3, THOMAS2, THOMAS1) was born August 19, 1743 in East Haddam, New London, Connecticut. She married BENJAMIN HICKOX September 17, 1760 in Guilford, New Haven, Connecticut, son of JOHN HICKOX and MARY GAYLORD. He was born Abt. 1739 in Wallingford, New Haven, Connecticut. Children of HULDAH HOLMES and BENJAMIN HICKOX are: i. BENJAMIN6 HICKOX, b. October 08, 1762; m. HANNAH CLARK, February 06, 1786, Conway, Massachusetts. ii. HULDAH HICKOX, b. July 22, 1764. iii. CLARISSA HARLOW HICKOX, b. May 28, 1766; d. November 08, 1840, Williamsburg, Massachusetts; m. LUCIUS GRAVES, Aft. 1786, Williamsburg, Massachusetts; b. December 19, 1746, Hatfield, Massachusetts; d. May 27, 1810, Williamsburg, Massachusetts. iv. ELIPHALET HOLMES HICKOX, b. March 13, 1768, East Haddam, New London, Connecticut; m. RACHEL ALLIS, August 12, 1796, Conway, Massachusetts.v. DAMARIS HICKOX, b. Abt. 1772, Conway, Massachusetts; d. April 17, 1863, Erie County, New York; m. ASA CARY, June 24, 1790, Conway, Massachusetts; b. April 01, 1770, Hampshire County, Massachusetts; d. September 19, 1852, Erie County, New York.

I am researching the following family and am looking for descendents. I come from Moses and Abigail's son Aaron b.1729. I would like to find his wife's name. All I have is Meriles? I have a sizable file on all the Baldwin's and am willing to share. Judy Descendants of MOSES BALDWIN 1 MOSES BALDWIN b: April 15, 1705 in MILFORD, NEW HAVEN, CONN d: Abt. 1756 in SAYBROOK, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN . +ABIGAIL ROYCE m: Abt. 1728 in SAYBROOK, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN b: 1710 in WALLINGFORD, NEW HAVEN CO, CONN d: Aft. 1747 Father: ROBERT ROYCE Mother: ABIGAIL BENEDICT ... 2 AARON BALDWIN b: October 26, 1729 in DURHAM, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN d: Bet. 1775 - 1776 in KILLINGSWORTH, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN ....... +MERILES UNKNOWN m: Abt. 1749 in NEW HAVEN, CONN b: Abt. 1730 d: Aft. 1764 ... 2 MOSES BALDWIN b: July 06, 1731 in DURHAM, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN ....... +ELIZABETH UNKNOWN ... 2 HANNAH BALDWIN b: September 23, 1733 in DURHAM, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN ....... +UNKNOWN CRAMER ... 2 JAMES BALDWIN b: November 26, 1735 ... 2 ROYCE BALDWIN b: November 23, 1737 in DURHAM, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN ... 2 DAVID BALDWIN b: March 08, 1739/40 in SAYBROOK, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN d: September 01, 1808 in ATWATER, PORTAGE CO, OHIO ....... +PARNELL CLARK m: December 13, 1764 in CHESTER, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN b: November 23, 1742 in SAYBROOK, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN d: October 31, 1815 in ATWATER, PORTAGE CO, OHIO Father: JOSEPH CLARK II ... 2 JAMES BALDWIN b: May 20, 1742 in SAYBROOK, CONN d: 1818 in SAYBROOK, CONN ....... +RUTH SHIPMAN d: December 14, 1836 ... 2 NOAH BALDWIN b: April 13, 1745 in SAYBROOK, CONN d: January 19, 1818 in BRIDGEWATER, PA ....... +SALLY SCOTT m: December 05, 1776 b: Abt. 1745 ... 2 JOSEPH BALDWIN b: August 20, 1747 in SAYBROOK, MIDDLESEX CO, CONN ....... +ELIZABETH UNKNOWN

Looking for burial of Charles Bishop born 1744 & Martha Hickok Bishop born 1750 - they are parents of Charles Bishop born 1770 married to Phebe Parsons born 1774 - daughter Melinda Bishop born 1793 Durham - DeAnne

> About that Olmstead guy that designed Central Park, I had > the newspaper article. Not sure if I kept it, although I > do keep most things. Can check on it if you are > interested in reading it if you have not done so. Frederick Law Olmsted (1822-1903) is considered the father of landscape architecture in the United States. Among his projects were New York's Prospect Park (1865-1873), Chicago's Riverside subdivision, Buffalo's park system (1868-1876), the Niagara Reservation at Niagara Falls (1887), Boston's "Emerald Necklace" park system, and the 1893 Chicago World's Fair. Google his name (spelled Olmsted, not Olmstead) for a wealth of biographical material, as well as photographs of his work. Chris

Dear Chris: One line of the Saunders married into the Wolcutt family. Elizabeth Saunders, born in 1582 in Somersetshire, married Henry Wolcutt in 1606/7 and immigrated to the the states in 1630. Elizabth was the Daughter of Thomas of Lydiard, St. Lawrence, Somersetshire. He died in 1609. He was the son of John Saunders b. c. 1534. They first settled in Dorchester and then removed to Windsor, Ct. in 1636. I have some more information about the other Saunders; however, my files on them are in the 'shed', my husband's unheated office. I'll try to get out there w/i the next few days and see if I can find anything helpful for you. The name "Simon" was the name of one of Henry and Elizabeth's son, or grandson, which makes me think it could possibly be the same family. You might see if you can find some more information on this family by going into Rootsweb/WorldConnect. Marge near Philadelphia

I am attempting to confirm family memory concerning Hazel Beatrice BROWN who gave her birth as 26 Nov 1896. The parents she knew were William H. BROWN and his wife Cora Cordelia BROWN. When I asked about William and Cora BROWN in connection with an existing photo, my cousin, one of Beatrice's daughters told me that her father, Donald E. INGHAM, had told her that her mother, Beatrice, was adopted by the BROWNs. That her natural mother and father had worked for the BROWNs at CLARKHUST, that her natural father had been killed by a train and that her mother had chosen the BROWNs to adopt Beatrice. The name FLOOD was mentioned as a possible family name for the natural parents. The 1900 census for Haddam has the BROWNs, William, Cora, and Beatrice, living next door to the CLARKs, owners of CLARKHURST, with a servant name Emma FLOOD in the household. This all seems to fit but is still speculative. Where should I turn for firmer documentary evidence? Cora Cordelia (CLARK) BROWN's lineage clearly goes back to Daniel BRAINERD b. 1641. I'd like to trace William BROWN and Emma FLOOD back also. George Garrettson GWGPhila@aol.com

Regarding Roll Call, I have an ancestor from Middletown, named Otis Fisk (died Sept 7, 1855, age 51). I am interested in finding out who his parents were, and his wife's parents.. Otis' wife was Esther Hubbard Fisk. (Esther, b Jan 22, 1806, m. July 26, 1824) Otis was a coal merchant and had his own coal dock on the Connecticut River where the freeway is now. His son Frederick Otis Fisk (b Dec 25, 1828; died __, 27, 1899, age 70 yr 5 mo, 2 days, at Jersey City, N.Y., and was bd. there) moved west to California, during the gold rush, and fathered my Great Grandfather, Frederick Sovino Fisk. Frederick Otis returned to Middletown when his father died after injuries in a train accident. He later moved to Jersey City New Jersey and had at least one other son (Walter H.) by Georgiana Love Fisk (half brother to my ancestor Frederick Sovino Fisk) I would be interested in any additional information about this second family, or descendants of Frederick Otis' siblings (I have all of the siblings names, etc.) It is possible there is a connection to the Fisk Starr House in Middleton, either through Esther and Otis, or through one of their grandchildren. I would be interested in know who I should contact to find historical information about the house and the families who lived there. Also where would be the best place to look at newspapers from the early 1800's to 1890 for Middletown? Are they online anywhere? I visited Middletown years ago,to do research. Thanks, Linda Fisk McNeil Portland, OR > >| >| > >

Hi Warren, Yes she does and her parents were Mary White and Joseph Loomis. I know that Mary is the dau. of Robert White and Bridget. Somehow I tie up with their other dau. Ann, as well. Not sure at the moment, but do have the story of Robert White on file as well as copies of The history of Ancient Windsor vol 1 and 2. Do you know who Nicholas Olmstead's mother was? Have father as James. I tell you I have more of these "woven" families here. To top off my Gates, this is my mother's paternal line and on her maternal side, we have another Gates. I believe she goes back to Stephen of Hingham. I have Spencers coming an going. I will copy your info and put it in my files. I think at one time years back you and I decided we were in deed related. About that Olmstead guy that designed Central Park, I had the newspaper article. Not sure if I kept it, although I do keep most things. Can check on it if you are interested in reading it if you have not done so. Talk soon, Carole CT

In a message dated 1/8/05 10:43:28 AM, jablair@insightbb.com writes: > I am researching the SANFORD family . . . what I know so far is that > Zachariah Sanford married Lois Huntley in 1780 in New London Co., but believe > Zachariah was from Saybrook.  I am seeking more information regarding Zachariah > Sanford and am hoping to find out who his parents were.  I have a lead that > indicates a Samuel Sanford may have been his father, but I have no proof of that > and would love any input on this family. > There's an earlier Sanford family which may be related: Robert Sanford & Ann Adams of Hartford had a son Zachary Sanford, born about 1650, died 1714. He redeemed his grandfather Jeremy Adams' property (an inn) in 1685 and continued the occupational tradition. He married his first cousin Sarah Willett, daughter of Nathaniel Willett and Sarah Adams. I don't know his children or his line any further, but you might wish to consult the source: "Jeremy Adams of Hartford, Conn., and Some of His Descendants," Arthur Adams, Genealogies of Connecticut Families From The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol. 1, Ed.: Gary Boyd Roberts, Baltimore, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1983. Originally published in NEHGR, Vol 59 (July 1905), pp 315-320. Dona Ritchie

Your CHAPMANs weren't from Yorkshire, by any chance? My CHAPMANs were Yorkins in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick (Chignecto Isthmus). Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: <Tobebelle@aol.com> To: <CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Roll Call, 2005 Middlesex County, CT - extended Chapman,Molyneux | Hello, | My Joseph chapman was born in East Lyme, Connecticut., 1831 died 1901 age | 70.. Mother was Eunice Post, and father was Joseph Calulkins Chapman. | Thank you for any information that you can give me, | Jane USA | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | You can search the archives for the list at | http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CTMIDDLE | | ============================== | New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14 599&targetid=5429 | |

I am researching my Saunders family history and have come to a dead end with my upteenth great-grandfather, SIMEON SAUNDERS. I have found very little on him. Don't even have a birth or death date. I have found info on two sons and reference to other children, but no names. Below are a couple texts, one stating that say he moved to Wood County, WV from Caroline County, VA around 1796 and that he was "perhaps" originally from Connecticut. I have found two other researchers that have him in their databases because his children married into their direct ancestral line. One of the researchers shows he was from Haddom, Middlesex County, CT, but didn't record a source for that info. This is some of what I have found in WV, but don't know how to look for him in CT: From "Pioneers In Wood County, WV" Vol. 1 Biographical Sketches of Early Settlers in Wood Co. By John A. House, 1939 "SAUNDERS, SIMEON - to Wood County 1796 - perhaps from Connecticut and probably with Dr. Joseph Spencer*. (see below) He is likely the father of Abner Saunders, who died in 1838 (3 Will Book 337) leaving a widow, Mary, and of Captain Nimrod Saunders, who is said to have been from Prince William and Caroline Counties, VA." SAUNDERS, ABNER, lived around 1800 or later on the Kanawha River, near Newark. He was of Welsh descent. His father and older brothers were in the American army in the Revolution. He was born in Caroline County, in 1771 and died in Wood County, in 1838. He was married to Mary, daughter of Anthony Buckner, before his coming to Wood County. SAUNDERS, CAPTAIN NIMROD, was a brother to Abner. His wife was a Creel, and he came with the Creels to the Wicliffe patent on the upper side of the Little Kanawha River. He lived in 1800 on Little Stillwell. He was born in 1774, and is buried in the Cook graveyard in Parkersburg. His wife, Sarah Creel, was a native of Prince William County, Virginia, and was a widow for forty years, and lacked but six months of being 100 years of age when she died in 1883." From "The Memories and Writings of Harold David Somerville", Volume III Compiled by Pauline Somerville Smith and Lola Mae Smith [page 230 to 235] The Saunders Family Nimrod and Abner Saunders, brothers, came to the Kanawha Valley frontier at the dawn of the 19th century. They were of Welch stock on their mother's side. They had lived in Virginia for many years. On the parental side, they claimed descent from the celebrated Indian Chief, Powhatan, whose blood coursed that of the historic Princess Pocahontas. The uncles and elder brothers fought under General Washington in the Revolutionary War. Abner Saunders was born in Caroline County, Virginia, in 1771 and died on April 3, 1838. He married (Polly) Mary, daughter of Colonel Anthony Buckner. She was a sister of Clara Buckner, who married George Creel Jr., in 1798. She was born 1777 and died April 8, 1862. He was buried at Claysville and she at Newark. Abner Saunders resided on a farm opposite Newark, which was named, "Cool Spring." * Info I have received from descendants of Dr. Joseph Spencer, supposedly a friend of my ancestor, Simeon Saunders. "Dr. Joseph Spencer lived for a time in Compton, NH, and was town clerk there in 1772. He later returned to Connecticut and married "as early as 1767." He settled there about the same time in Lebanon in the practice of medicine. He was living there in 1780 but soon after moved to Lansingburgh, NY. A few years later he removed to Vienna, WVa, about six miles from Marietta, OH. He studied medicine, probably with his step-brother, Dr. Daniel Southmayd, or with Cr. Augustus Mather. According to tradition, he served in the Revolution as an aide to his father and as an assistant surgeon, but no record evidence of such service has been found. They removed ca. 1793 to Wood Co, VA. Vienna was founded in 1794 by Dr. Joseph Spencer, who brought his family to the area and settled a 5,000-acre land grant he received for services as a physician in the Revolutionary War. Spencer named his new community Vienna after Vienna, New Jersey, where he had once participated in a battle during the Revolution. The doctor's settlement did not prosper, and for many years it remained farmland." Birth: 22 Jul 1750 in Kinderhook, Columbia Co., NY Death: 11 May 1824 in Vienna, VA Baptism: 22 Jul 1750 East Haddam, CT (Millington) Occupation: Physician Father of Dr. Joseph Spencer: Joseph SPENCER, Major Gen., b. 3 Oct 1714 in East Haddam, CT Mother of Dr. Joseph Spencer: Martha BRAINERD, b. 1 Sep 1716 in East Haddam, CT **************************************************************************** **************** Chris Beck thebecks@ncn.net

Hi, Carole -- Does Sarah OLMSTEAD descend from Capt. Nicholas OLMSTEAD and Sarah LOOMIS? Sarah L was the GD of Robert WHITE and Bridget ALLGAR of Shalford, Co. Essex, ENG (my 10th G-GPs) and first cousin of my 8th G-GM Elizabeth GOODWIN m. John CROW > Mehitable m. Saml PARTRIDGE (BIRDS!) > Mary m. the Rev. Josiah DWIGHT > Anna m. the Rev. James WETMORE. YESSS! Sarah was their darling daughter. http://www.angelfire.com/folk/morgan/fam/fam06291.htm Name: Sarah OLMSTEAD Born: ABT 1641 at: Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut Married: ABT 1661 at: Of Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut Died: 17 Nov 1709 at: East Haddam, Middlesex, Connecticut Spouses: George GATES Hiya, Cuzzin! (Or had we figured that out a few years ago? LOL) I found a lot of WHITE cousins on the Conn River Valley list. The male Olmstead line included the guy who designed Central Park in NYC. Best, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Buehler" <carolebuehler@sbcglobal.net> To: <CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] ROLL CALL:BRAINERD,GATES,CHAPMAN AND | I have many ancestors that were either born in or came to E.Haddam, married | and died there. Would say have been fairly lucky in that these guys just | stayed in the same place or tended to stay in the state. My CHAPMAN line | started with Robert of Saybrook, then the line migrated to E Haddam, my | grandfather was Samuel C. CHAPMAN who did move on to Chaplin CT. I have two | BRAINERD lines, from the same Brainerd parents, Daniel BRAINERD and Hannah | SPENCER. I also have two GATES lines, which if not mistaken go back to Capt | George GATES and wife Sarah OLMSTEAD. VENTRES, ACKLEY, ANDREWS, KIRBY, LEE, | SMITH, MACK, HUNGERFORD, ROWLEY, | FULLER ,WINSLOW, GRAY/GREEN, FLETCHER, PORTER, GRISWOLD, STEVENS CHURCH, | DOAN/E, | I also have Huldah MAINWARING, b. E. Lyme CT 1800, married Beri GATES 1819, | in E Haddam,died E. Haddam 1866. Would appreciate any info on her parents. | | All of these people were in the 1600's 1700's and 1800's. | | Am sure I missed a few, but if anyone needs any info on any of these names, | will be most happy to share what I have. | | Carole CT | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | Visit the Godfrey Memorial Library Website | http://www.godfrey.org | Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT | | ============================== | Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. | Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx | |

I have many ancestors that were either born in or came to E.Haddam, married and died there. Would say have been fairly lucky in that these guys just stayed in the same place or tended to stay in the state. My CHAPMAN line started with Robert of Saybrook, then the line migrated to E Haddam, my grandfather was Samuel C. CHAPMAN who did move on to Chaplin CT. I have two BRAINERD lines, from the same Brainerd parents, Daniel BRAINERD and Hannah SPENCER. I also have two GATES lines, which if not mistaken go back to Capt George GATES and wife Sarah OLMSTEAD. VENTRES, ACKLEY, ANDREWS, KIRBY, LEE, SMITH, MACK, HUNGERFORD, ROWLEY, FULLER ,WINSLOW, GRAY/GREEN, FLETCHER, PORTER, GRISWOLD, STEVENS CHURCH, DOAN/E, I also have Huldah MAINWARING, b. E. Lyme CT 1800, married Beri GATES 1819, in E Haddam,died E. Haddam 1866. Would appreciate any info on her parents. All of these people were in the 1600's 1700's and 1800's. Am sure I missed a few, but if anyone needs any info on any of these names, will be most happy to share what I have. Carole CT

Hello, My Joseph chapman was born in East Lyme, Connecticut., 1831 died 1901 age 70.. Mother was Eunice Post, and father was Joseph Calulkins Chapman. Thank you for any information that you can give me, Jane USA

Hello, I don't know where Joseph Chapman was from. He did marry and died in Connecticut. He married Sophia Bogue and they are buried in Old Lyme, Connecticut.( I can't find them thou) Thank you for any information that you can give me, Jane USA

In a message dated 1/8/05 3:22:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Tobebelle@aol.com writes: Looking for information on my Great Grandfather's 1800 Joseph Chapman mine were from tolland, ct. however, i dont know if we had joseph at the moment-=names i know are barger, bates, boardman, ferris(all married in) and first names of smith, john, jeremiah and john several times. sarah, frances, and others. frances married owen brady -they are my gggp. linda

Looking for information on my Great Grandfather's 1800 Joseph Chapman John Molyneux Thanks, Jane USA

Looking for Joel FOX and sons, Gustavus b.1810, and Henry b.1806, possibly from Saybrook. Moved to New York, then Michigan, possibly through Canada. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Devlin" <janedevlin@ameritech.net> To: <CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: [CTMID] Roll Call, 2005 Middlesex County, CT - extended > There hasn't been a whole lot of activity on the roll call, so I'm going > to extend it for another week.. January 8th - 14th.. Jane

I am researching the SANFORD family . . . what I know so far is that Zachariah Sanford married Lois Huntley in 1780 in New London Co., but believe Zachariah was from Saybrook. I am seeking more information regarding Zachariah Sanford and am hoping to find out who his parents were. I have a lead that indicates a Samuel Sanford may have been his father, but I have no proof of that and would love any input on this family. Thank You, Jennifer Blair jablair@insightbb.com