Hello, I was wondering if you had a Sophia Bogue in your family line? Sophia was my great- great grandmother on my fathers side of the family. She was born in Lyme, Connecticut. She married Joseph Chapman. Thank you for any information that you can give me, Jane USA
Jane just finished putting on another deed from Robert CARTER. This time it adds another piece of evidence of one of his children as the deed is to his daughter, Mary. This deed is has a phrase that I have never seen used in these old records as he describes the consideration and Especially my parentallous and tender Regard to my Daughter. You can find this deed at _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/deeds/carter_carter_1735.htm_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/deeds/carter_carter_1735.htm) Regards, Janece Carter Streig streig3@aol.com _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/) "Genealogy is life in the past lane." Family Names: Amidon, Bogue, Buffington, Carter, Chapman, Darrow, DeHart, Dodge, Eaton, Elwood, Fairbanks, Fell, Firby, Grout, Hudson, Kelsey, McCracken, Mott, Painter, Reynard, Rodabaugh, Shottenkirk, Slaughter, Smith, Spencer, Stockdill, Swan, Trafton, Wollenberg, Wollenlurge, Woodbury, Wright, Wullbrandt
Janece, The Town Assessor will be the one with the plat maps. It might a good idea to first plot out as many deeds as you need to, until you know "what part of the town" you will need plats for. Hopefully you will learn from the parcel descriptions about one or more landmarks that will tell you this. Each town will probably have more plat maps than you expect. (I needed three for my area of East Haddam, after I knew where to look.) You might ask first if they have a "Key Map" showing what parts of the Town are covered by which plat maps. It's a sort of "map to the maps." In my case, I knew some deeds were for land at the juncture of the towns of East Haddam, Lyme, and Colchester. It was a bit confusing at first because the town line - and the lower boundary of Colchester - shifted north a bit when Salem was created around 1819. Plotting out my Rogers properties in East Haddam, CT, indicated a long 10-acre parcel owned by John Rogers (b 1734) was divided by a local road (nka Dolbia Road). A historical memoir about the roads and trails of the area made one brief mention that two Rogers' supposedly owned houses across the road from each other. As I knew who the neighbors were, and that Ralph and Gammon Rogers never owned land in the described location, it was pretty evident that those older two had to have been living on John Rogers' divided property. That was a clincher piece of evidence for me. People didn't necessarily have to been wealthy to have owned property, so we shouldn't assume they didn't. Sometimes even records for a 1/2 acre of ground and a house could be illuminating. - And even if you don't intend to plot out the properties, the deeds themselves often state family relationships. Deeds are a valuable source of information that is too often overlooked. (Start with the Town deed indexes on LDS micrfilm.) A recent correspondent told me just this week of a deed in Litchfield that proved his ancestor was the daughter of Elisha Borden, who had lived in East Haddam. Her birth had never been recorded there. He was very pleased. Best of luck to you.
Thank you for your explanation on plotting these deeds. For me, the reminder in your comments was that I needed to start with "todays" assessor plat maps. Can you tell me where these maps can be located in CT? I have done this before, in California. My husband & I had the maps and the property description and actually went to the sites. We were rewarded in one case by finding the actual house his grandfather built--it had been moved to a different location on the property. However, tracing back 100 years in CA is a lot easier than 300 years in CT. Again, thank you. It is a project that can be rewarding. Janece Carter Streig streig3@aol.com _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/) "Genealogy is life in the past lane."
Regarding the plotting out of family deeds, be ready for some real work. This is not meant to discourage anyone by any means, but if you have not plotted out early deeds in Connecticut before, it will be frustrating at times and require much more time and head scratching than you may expect. I have done this with my Rogers families in East Haddam (for the period ca 1740-1835), and it cracked a major brick wall. However, I either sketched or plotted out about 200 deeds to get the 12-15 owned by my family members. Why so many? Not only were many deeds very vague in their metes and bounds property descriptions, a significant number described the subject property by only naming the neighbors on each side. That means you will be needing to plot out the properties of the neighbors as well. To do this you will be following the "chains of title" for their property histories through the deed indexes too. As for plat maps, East Haddam is still rural, so "today's" assessor's plats formed the framework on which which my parcels were located. (I had to cut and paste various assessor plats to get what I needed.) Try to maintain the same scale as you work. Some property lines changed of course, but the basic patterns were there. Look for distinct land marks that locate ANY property, and start your jig-saw puzzle from there. Best of luck, and don't give up!
Jane has just finished uploading another deed from Robert CARTER. This deed is to his son Samuel CARTER. You can see this deed at _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/deeds/carter_carter_1723.htm _ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/deeds/carter_carter_1723.htm) What we have on-line at Jane's site are deeds from Robert to his sons: Samuel, Joseph, John and Nathaniel. Now all I need is William and my Benjamin for the sons. I still am missing the daughters. At Robert's death, there were 7 children alive that were allotted a portion of the estate; a reported 9 total were born that I have found (so far). Two possibly died without issue before Robert because he died intestate (without a will). The birth or baptism of all the children are not listed in vital or church records. This deed is another piece of evidence to link one generation to the next. There are those deeds that state "son" or "daughter" that are what we might call "son-in-law" or "daughter-in-law." In this specific case, this confirms other data that I have collected that Samuel was his son. Quite interesting... He certainly seemed to be well situated. Each of these deeds states valuable consideration with receipt in hand, but no fiscal amount is ever mentioned. Another item that I have seen mentioned several times was that in a deed, if a person made a mark (instead of a signature), that possibly they could not read or write. In some of these deeds, there is no mention of a "mark", while in another deed, a notation was made for "his mark." This could also mean that he had an injury to his hand where he could not write his name at the time of the execution of the deed. How many of us could sign our name with our non-dominant hand? On my to-do list is to get a copy of any plat maps that existed at this time period to verify the locations of these properties. Happy hunting, Janece Carter Streig streig3@aol.com _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/) "Genealogy is life in the past lane." Family Names: Amidon, Bogue, Buffington, Carter, Chapman, Darrow, DeHart, Dodge, Eaton, Elwood, Fairbanks, Fell, Firby, Grout, Hudson, Kelsey, McCracken, Mott, Painter, Reynard, Rodabaugh, Shottenkirk, Slaughter, Smith, Spencer, Stockdill, Swan, Trafton, Wollenberg, Wollenlurge, Woodbury, Wright, Wullbrandt
Jane has just finished putting up a deed from Robert CARTER to John BROOKER. This deed is dated October 17 1716 and is a very different deed than I have normally seen. You can access this deed at Jane's website: _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/deeds/carter-brooker_1716.ht m_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/deeds/carter-brooker_1716.htm) Janece Carter Streig streig3@aol.com _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jcstreig/) "Genealogy is life in the past lane." Family Names: Amidon, Bogue, Buffington, Carter, Chapman, Darrow, DeHart, Dodge, Eaton, Elwood, Fairbanks, Fell, Firby, Grout, Hudson, Kelsey, McCracken, Mott, Painter, Reynard, Rodabaugh, Shottenkirk, Slaughter, Smith, Spencer, Stockdill, Swan, Trafton, Wollenberg, Wollenlurge, Woodbury, Wright, Wullbrandt
Please re-send this message so that I can see the attachment. I have just changed my email settings to allow them to be displayed. Thanks for all you do to help us. SOMEONE out there gave me a LOT of good information the other day that I need to follow up. I may have found some of my relatives, lost (second, third, fourth, ?_-cousins. I'm looking forward to making contact with them. Have a great day. Stay safe, and may God bless. I wish you peace. Dan
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SAGE, SPOFFORD, KINGSBURY, COVERT, KELLY, PENNY, WILSON Classification: Biography Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xY.2ADI/776 Message Board Post: Hello, These are not my relatives. Information was found in the 1892 Portrait & Biographical Album of Genesee, Lapeer & Tuscola Counties, Chapman Bros. in Michigan. I hope that it helps someone with their history. Colleen Reuben W. Sage, the Postmaster of Mundy, Genesee County, was born in Erie County, N.Y., July 30, 1833. When about two years old he removed with his parents too Michigan, settling in Macomb County, and he lived their until he was some sixteen years old, passing his boyhood days upon the farm. At that age he came with his parents too Oakland County and settled in Addison, where he lived with them until 1852, at which time he purchased sixty acres in the south part of Mundy Township, and the following spring built a log house upon his property, which he occupied for twenty-five years. At the end of that time he erected a modern and attractive home, which is now his place of residence. Farming has been the chief business of Mr. Sage’s life and he now owns one hundred and sixty acres of rich and arable land. He was married in Addison, Oakland County, this State, October 30, 1854, too Fannie L. Kingsbury, who was born in Addison, August 3, 1837. The following children have blessed this home, Edwin A., who married Ardilla Covert; James L., who took too wife Nancy Kelley (now deceased); Charles W., who married Maggie Penny; and Elvert E., who was killed June 9, 1891, while assisting in raising a barn on his father’s farm in Mundy Township, being then nineteen years old. For eight years Mr. Sage has filled the office of Justice of the Peace and he was appointed Postmaster under Cleveland’s administration, in 1886, and has held that office since. He formerly acted with the Republican party, but of late years has been a Prohibitionist, and takes and active part in political movements. The Methodist Episcopal Church is the religious body with which Mr. and Mrs. Sage are connected and he has held the office of Class Leader since 1872. Mr. Sage enlisted in July, 1862, in Company C, Twenty-third Michigan Infantry, and served for three years, taking part in all the battles in which that regiment was engaged. Among them we may mention Campbell Station, siege of Knoxville, Resaca, Dallas, Lost Mountain, Kenesaw, the siege of Atlanta, Columbia, Franklin, Nashville, Spring Hill, Goldsboro, Ft. Anderson and Willmington. He was promoted too the rank of Corporal and was mustered out of the service at Salisbury, N.C., receiving his discharge at Detroit, and left the service with greatly impaired health. The father of Mrs. Sage was the Rev. Leonard Kingsbury, and her mother bore the maiden name of Esther Wilson. Both of them were New Yorkers, the mother being born at Crown Point. Mr. Kingsbury was a minister of the free Will Baptist Church. They both died in Addison, Oakland County, and left eight children, of whom Mrs. Sage is the youngest. The parents of Mr. Sage were James and Nancy (Spofford) Sage, the former a native of Connecticut And the latter a New Yorker. He was a weaver by trade, but devoted his life mostly too farming. He died in Addison, but his faithful companion, who survived him, expired at the home of her son, our subject, in Mundy Township. They were the parents of six children and their son, Rueben was the third in order of age. The beautiful home of Mr. and Mrs. Sage is the center of a delightful social life and the members of this family are deservedly popular and esteemed by their neighbors throughout the township and the county.
I think Dan might be referring to a message I posted on June 7, which contained a LINK to the FamilySearch.org website .... not an attachment. Apparently he is not aware that these rootsweb maillists do not allow attachments ... if a message you post contains one either the entire message will be deleted or the attachment will be stripped from it. Joe jwklaudi@comcast.net
When replying to a digest item, it would be useful to cut and paste that item into the reply -- so we'd know what you're talking about. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Frain" <danfrain@mchsi.com> To: <CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:15 AM Subject: [CTMID] Re: CTMIDDLE-D Digest V05 #60 | Thanks for forwarding this. | | My security settings DELETE email attachments so that one doesn't bring in a | bug of some sort. | | If you really want me to get it, paste it in or insert the file you want me | to have. | | Have a great day. | | Stay safe, and may God bless. I wish you peace. | | Dan | | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | Visit the Middlesex County GenWeb site | http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctmiddle/midlsxco.htm | | ============================== | View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find | marriage announcements and more. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx | |
Thanks for forwarding this. My security settings DELETE email attachments so that one doesn't bring in a bug of some sort. If you really want me to get it, paste it in or insert the file you want me to have. Have a great day. Stay safe, and may God bless. I wish you peace. Dan
Dan, Your family is listed on the 1880 census at http://www.familysearch.org/default.asp , the website of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ... the Mormons. Click on the 'search' tab at the top of the page > click on 'census' in the left hand column > choose the 1880 US census from the dropdown menu > type in the first and last name ( the surname is spelled Frayne on this census) > choose Connecticut for the state > Middlesex for the county and Middletown for the city and click on 'search' Click on the persons name and a window with his/her info will open. At the top right of the sceeen you will see a link .... 'Household' . Click it and a window showing all the members of that household will open. In your case, there is David, Nora his wife, six children including Thomas and a neice. Hope this helps, Joe
My Grandfather, Thomas Joseph Frain, was born in Middletown, Middlesex County, Connecticut, in 1873. I don't recall his mother's name; his father's name was David Frayne. According to the records of St. John's Church in Middletown, he was a sea captain. I don't know when the spelling of the naem was changed. There were brothers-I've heard the names Martin, John, Dominick, and Patrick or Paul. Family lore has it that my grandfather was sent back to Ireland. He returned in time to fight in the Spanish American War, and worked for "the railroad" in Minnesota, which is where he met my grandmother. They married and raised three sons. A fourth died of scarlet fever at the age of nine. My grandparents went "Down East" for a few years to try to find his father and brothers, but never found them. Any help you can provide will be appreciated. If I can help you with anything in the Western Illinois - Eastern Iowa area, please let me know. I'm new at this, though, so I may need a bit more hand holding than you're used to. Thanks in advance. Stay safe, and may God bless. I wish you peace. Dan
There is a Brown that runs the Swedish cemetery groundskeeping in Portland, CT. I don't know if it is the same family. Tracy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shelley Cardiel" <familia@sprintmail.com> To: <CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:35 AM Subject: [CTMID] BROWN Family Photograph > I've "rescued" an old photograph of Genevra Vivian BROWN which was taken at > the Moore Studio in Middletown, Connecticut. The photograph is dated 26 > June 1885 and notes her age as 4 years old. I'm hoping to locate someone > from this BROWN Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned > to its rightful place with family. > > If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please > contact me. > > Thanks, > Shelley > > > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Middlesex County GenWeb site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctmiddle/midlsxco.htm > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Dear Shelley, To help preserve the photograph properly and make it available to many researchers you may want to contact these CT libraries: The CT Historical Society, The CT State Library, and the Middlesex County Historical Society. If you need contact info let me know. Deborah Tajmajer --- In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:26:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, familia@sprintmail.com writes: I've "rescued" an old photograph of Genevra Vivian BROWN which was taken at the Moore Studio in Middletown, Connecticut. The photograph is dated 26 June 1885 and notes her age as 4 years old. I'm hoping to locate someone from this BROWN Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley
I've "rescued" an old photograph of Genevra Vivian BROWN which was taken at the Moore Studio in Middletown, Connecticut. The photograph is dated 26 June 1885 and notes her age as 4 years old. I'm hoping to locate someone from this BROWN Family so that this wonderful old photograph can be returned to its rightful place with family. If you are a member of this family, or know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Shay, Harris Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xY.2ADI/775 Message Board Post: Looking for information on Timothy Shay of Voluntown Ct.died 1763 Children William , Timothy and Mary Shay Thanks Geneva
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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xY.2ADI/766.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: hi, I was wondering if you have access to information on monument carvers or even funeral information from about 1850-1880 for E. Haddam area? Thanks in advance. Anne