Dear List Members, My Quinns were Irish immigrants, who lived in Higganum for a number of years. Does anyone know why the Irish would have gone to Higganum? Was there employment that would have drawn them there in the 1860'-1870's? These were Dubliners, not farmers or country folk, and it just seems a strange place for newly emigrated city people to go. Any help would be appreciated. - Monica

Looking for parents/siblings of Rev. Benjamin CHAPMAN b. c1724 birthplace unknown d. 1786 Southington, CT. Married Abigial Riggs 1756 in Derby, CT. Abigail's parents are Samuel and Abigial Gunn Riggs. Rev. Benjamin was the minister for 16 years for the Southington Congregational Church. He graduated Princeton (College of New Jersey) in 1754 and received a Honorary Degree from Yale in 1761. He was a friend of Aaron Burr. His children: Abigial R., Roswell Riggs, Sarah, Clarissa, Benjamin, Pamela (Parmela?) Samuel and Levi. Associated families are: Atwater, Upson, Falley, Ferguson, Carter, Stansbury, Knox, Armstrong, Bradley, Parsons, Herrington. deb chapman dchap11848@aol.com

Hi, ELISHA FERREE born 24 June 1792 Springfield, MA married 25 August 1817 Srpingfield CHLOE EGGLESTON, daughter of William Eggleston, born 8 May 1798 Springfield. William was born 29 December 1774 Middletown, CT. This family lived in Middletown, CT from about 1818 to 1868. All their children were born there. Starr Collection page F105 I would like information as to CHLOE's mother. Bob -- Robert H. & Doris A. Ferree P.O. Box 116 Grizzly Flats California 95636 U.S.A. robertf@innercite.com

Does anyone have anything on the JAMES COVEY, WILLIAM COVEY and JOHN COVEY who came to Wollystone, later Braintree, Massachuttes in 1639 or 1640. Hopefully anything will tie into what I have and possibly tell me more about John and William. Bill Covey Author of: Watson Is Where It Wuz http://home.att.net/~billcovey/index.html

Hi There: I have a branch of my family moved to and stayed in Connecticut from Rhode Island, Maryland or some danged place in the early 1700's or so. Does anyone know anything about the CT COVEYS? If so I would like for you to contact me. Bill Covey Fort Smith, Arkansas

Hi, I'd like to welcome everyone to the list and encourage you to post your ancestors and questions. We have over 60 members as of this evening! I've seen a number of my ancestors mentioned already in various messages - Gerard SPENCER, Lydia BACKUS, Daniel BRAINARD, William CLARK, and others. I'm still learning the ins & outs of managing a mail list, so please bear with me if I don't seem to know quite what I'm doing..<G>.. Thanks to all of you for subscribing and helping to make this list a success. Jane

My ancestor, Martin McNary came to CT at about 1740-50. He settled in Hadam. He served in 3 campaigns in the French and Indian War, and eventually married the widow of his fallen comrad, Richard Blake. Her name was Hepethba (sp) Johnson Blake. If there is anyone else researching the McNary family, I would dearly love to hear from you. Betty Fink http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/5934

Hello. I'm researching a SMITH family who lived in Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT from 1866 on. Joseph SMITH was born April 24, 1842 in Portsmouth. He may have had a brother named "Mawlin" SMITH, born abt. 1840. (I'm not sure of the spelling.) "Mawlin" SMITH married Mary Jane SKINNER, born abt. 1845 in Ontario. Joseph had a sister named Mary SMITH who married a man named NORRIS. Joseph's father was James SMITH, born in Scotland. Joseph SMITH came to the US (Connecticut) in 1866. He married Mary Elizabeth BANNISTER, born in 1847 in Canada, abt. 1872. He may have married someone before he married her because I found him on the 1870 census, living with Jane SMITH, born in CT. The fact that he married Mary Elizabeth BANNISTER in 1872 or 73 makes me think his first wife died. Joseph SMITH worked for the CT Hospital for the Criminally Insane for 50 yrs. - 1866 until his death in 1916. He belonged to Lodge I.O.O.F. and Christ Church. I believe that some of Joseph SMITH's family stayed in Ontario. In his obit. in 1916, it said his sister Mary NORRIS still lived in Portsmouth. Do you recognize this family? Please contact me. Thanks. Beth Smith BSmith7439@aol.com

> As I understand it, the only "logic" used for having the second wife > is an unaccounted-for "Rebecca Spencer" who died in early days in > either Haddam or Norwich, I forget right now. An earlier researcher > concluded this must have been a Porter for some reason, and the only > "logical" place for her in the Spencer tree was with Gerard. No direct > evidence was given. Do you know of any more evidence for this second > wife? Do you know where does the date 1677 come from?? > > Thanks for your support. > > Norris Hi Norris, The question of Rebecca is indeed a nebulous one coming from the illustrious IGI again, although that is better than the Ancestral Files! The remarks are made in SOTGM that Jacobus was uncertain if Rebecca was married to Gerard and Goodwin refers to her as Howard (an interesting aside for me!) The 1677 comes from a Saybrook record apparently. Since there were no offspring from this couple it probably has not been pursued as diligently as it might have if there were descendants. Gail

Hi Norris, I have not seriously chased this line back beyond these shores and only have "Spencers of the Great Migration" right now as source other than LDS which I take with a grain of salt until I can locate some serious, solid research. It sounds like you are as finicky as I am. However, Jerry England who is also a descendant has e-mailed me the marriage date from the records in Lynn, MA for Gerard and Hannah's marriage. I quote Jerry "On 17 Dec 1636 when Gerard was 22, he married (1) Hannah HILLS, in Lynn, Essex, MA. Born abt 1618 in England. Hannah died in Haddam, Middlesex, CT bef Oct 1683; she was 65." I am posting this to the list because these are the very things that need to be shared and discussed in an open forum to resolve questions. I would love to get more information rolling to the masses from original sources like the one Jerry just sent me. Where did you get the Lynn reference, Jerry? Gail Norris wrote: > > On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:01:27 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hi Dave, > > > >My line of descent is from: > > > >John (John, John, Robert, Henry, Thomas) Spencer, b. 1505, m. Anne > >Merrill, d 1560, he d. 1550. > > Spencers of the Great Migration, p 2, shows another Thomas between > Robert and Henry above??. > > It should also be noted that the placement of Henry and Isabella in > the above scheme conflicts, timewise, with the date of death of Henry, > husband of Isabella Lincoln, 1478, given in Ancestors of American > Presidents. AAP also does not show the Spencer brothers as cousins to > the four Spencer presidents in his book. The top two levels in SOTGM > are questionable, in my opinion. > > >Gerard Spencer, bpt 25 Apr 1614 at Stotfold, Bedfordshhire m.(1) Hannah > >Hills("The Spencers of the Great Migration"), d. before 1683 (Gerard's > >will), m.(2) in 1677 at Saybrook,CT, Rebecca(Porter)Clark, daughter of > >John and Anne(White) Porter, he d. ca 1685. ( It is possible he was > >marries to two different Hannahs first. One in 1635, and then Hannah > >Hills) > > It should also be noted that the surname Hills, in SOTGM, for Gerard's > wife, only comes from IGI records. Likely not a reliable record in > this case. This would mean that all the Spencer researchers heretofore > missed this in Vital Records?? I seriously doubt the use of the name > Hills for her. I am surprised the SOTGM would use the IGI as a source > in a published genealogy. > > As I understand it, the only "logic" used for having the second wife > is an unaccounted-for "Rebecca Spencer" who died in early days in > either Haddam or Norwich, I forget right now. An earlier researcher > concluded this must have been a Porter for some reason, and the only > "logical" place for her in the Spencer tree was with Gerard. No direct > evidence was given. Do you know of any more evidence for this second > wife? Do you know where does the date 1677 come from?? > > Thanks for your support. > > Norris > > -- > Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> > Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html > --------------------------------------- > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Middlesex County, CT Mailing List > List Owner - Jane Devlin JaneDevlin@netquest.com

On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:01:27 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Dave, > >My line of descent is from: > >John (John, John, Robert, Henry, Thomas) Spencer, b. 1505, m. Anne >Merrill, d 1560, he d. 1550. Spencers of the Great Migration, p 2, shows another Thomas between Robert and Henry above??. It should also be noted that the placement of Henry and Isabella in the above scheme conflicts, timewise, with the date of death of Henry, husband of Isabella Lincoln, 1478, given in Ancestors of American Presidents. AAP also does not show the Spencer brothers as cousins to the four Spencer presidents in his book. The top two levels in SOTGM are questionable, in my opinion. >Gerard Spencer, bpt 25 Apr 1614 at Stotfold, Bedfordshhire m.(1) Hannah >Hills("The Spencers of the Great Migration"), d. before 1683 (Gerard's >will), m.(2) in 1677 at Saybrook,CT, Rebecca(Porter)Clark, daughter of >John and Anne(White) Porter, he d. ca 1685. ( It is possible he was >marries to two different Hannahs first. One in 1635, and then Hannah >Hills) It should also be noted that the surname Hills, in SOTGM, for Gerard's wife, only comes from IGI records. Likely not a reliable record in this case. This would mean that all the Spencer researchers heretofore missed this in Vital Records?? I seriously doubt the use of the name Hills for her. I am surprised the SOTGM would use the IGI as a source in a published genealogy. As I understand it, the only "logic" used for having the second wife is an unaccounted-for "Rebecca Spencer" who died in early days in either Haddam or Norwich, I forget right now. An earlier researcher concluded this must have been a Porter for some reason, and the only "logical" place for her in the Spencer tree was with Gerard. No direct evidence was given. Do you know of any more evidence for this second wife? Do you know where does the date 1677 come from?? Thanks for your support. Norris -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

Hello: My name is Jim Botelle and I am a transplanted native of Cromwell. I now live in Maryland. I am researching infomation on my family and would appreciate any info you may have on the BOTELLE, RALPH and LINCOLN families. My earliest BOTELLE is Ellelar Botelle who was born about 1791 in Cromwell. He died March 11,1872 and married Aurelia _____? Three of his children were Henry E. Botelle, John Demming Botelle (who married Annie-Sarah Lincoln) and Wilbur L. Botelle. Henry (b. 1843) married Emma Josephine Ralph in Cromwell. He died in 1926. Any information would be greatly appreciated. I also have the Upper Houses of Middletown 2-vol. set and the book on Cromwell - "Cromwell, Connecticut - 1650-1990, the history of a river town" in my possession. Will do lookups as I have time. Jim Botelle Researching: BOTELLE, HULL, LINCOLN, RALPH, WILLIAMS

Hi Dave, My line of descent is from: John (John, John, Robert, Henry, Thomas) Spencer, b. 1505, m. Anne Merrill, d 1560, he d. 1550. Michael Spencer, b. 1531 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, Eng., m.22 Jan 1555/6 Agnes Lymer(Lorimer), bur. 23 Feb 1562, he died after 1599, prob buried at Biggleswade, Bedfordshire. Gerard Spencer, of Stotfold, Bedfordshire, bapt. 20 May 1576, m. 10 Nov 1600, Alice Whitbread, of Upper Gravenhurst, Bedfordshire, b. ca 1580 at Meppershall, Bedfordshire, d. May 1646, he died before 1646. Gerard Spencer, bpt 25 Apr 1614 at Stotfold, Bedfordshhire m.(1) Hannah Hills("The Spencers of the Great Migration"), d. before 1683 (Gerard's will), m.(2) in 1677 at Saybrook,CT, Rebecca(Porter)Clark, daughter of John and Anne(White) Porter, he d. ca 1685. ( It is possible he was marries to two different Hannahs first. One in 1635, and then Hannah Hills) Hannah Spencer, b. ca 1640, m. ca 1664, Daniel Brainard, b. 1641, d. 1 Apr 1715. Sources: Family records, "The Spencers of the Great Migration" Vol 1,by Jack Taif Spencer and Edith Woolley Spencer, Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore, MD, 1997 Thank you for making me do this out. I am handicapped by a computer crash lately and have to do these from hard copy right now. I needed someone to spur me on. Glad to meet a cousin, Gail

Hi everyone! I share Jerry England's Haddam families (Bailey, Brainard, Spencer, Shailor/Shaylor, Scoville etc.) I am descended from Oliver4 Bailey. Also descended from early Middletown settlers - Harris/Weld, Bacon, Miller, Ward, Wetmore, Atkins (Adkins), Bow, and families they intermarried with. Some of these families settled Middlefield and married into my Terrill family that returned from VT in the mid 1800s. I would love to exchange info with anyone connected with these families. I have visited both Jerry and Norris' web sites and would like you both to know that I find them impressive. Michael

Hello fellow Spencer Searchers; Maybe someone on this list might be of help to me. My Spencer I am looking for is Ellis L. Spencer. He was born July 31, 1853-54. He also had a twin brother. I am looking for his parents. According tohis death record his parents were Delia Smith and Harry Spencer. And it stated that he was born in New York. Now since I have been unable to find a birth record I started looking for his marriage record and I found his marriage record in Keokuk, Iowa as he married my greatgrandmother Dora A. Knox who was born in Hancock Co. Illinois which is directly accross the Mississippi River from Keokuk. On the marriage application it state his parents as Delia Smith and Perry (Percy) Spencer. It was not easy to decipher the first name. I also found another reference that Delia Smith may have been married to a Calvin Spencer. Ellis Spencer and Dora Knox Spencer had two children, the first a son was named Ellis Rodman Spencer who was born March 13, 1887 in Des Moines, Iowa. Their second child named Gladys Emma Spencer born on March 7, 1889 in Brantford, Ontario, CA They then settled in the Detroit, Michigan area and lived their lives there until they died. Does anyone have Ellis Spencer in their line. I also beleive that the sons' middle name Rodman is an ancestors name. I was able to find a Rodman Spencer in Cambridge Town, Washington County, NY in the 1790 Census, 1800 and 1810., after that he disappeared. Is there any help out here for me? Anuy and all help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Jean Payton Date forwarded: Mon, 8 Feb 1999 06:50:32 -0800 (PST) Date sent: Mon, 08 Feb 1999 10:01:27 -0500 From: Gail Howard <dardena@ime.net> Subject: Gerard Spencer Family To: CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Forwarded by: CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com Hi Dave, My line of descent is from: John (John, John, Robert, Henry, Thomas) Spencer, b. 1505, m. Anne Merrill, d 1560, he d. 1550. Michael Spencer, b. 1531 in Edworth, Bedfordshire, Eng., m.22 Jan 1555/6 Agnes Lymer(Lorimer), bur. 23 Feb 1562, he died after 1599, prob buried at Biggleswade, Bedfordshire. Gerard Spencer, of Stotfold, Bedfordshire, bapt. 20 May 1576, m. 10 Nov 1600, Alice Whitbread, of Upper Gravenhurst, Bedfordshire, b. ca 1580 at Meppershall, Bedfordshire, d. May 1646, he died before 1646. Gerard Spencer, bpt 25 Apr 1614 at Stotfold, Bedfordshhire m.(1) Hannah Hills("The Spencers of the Great Migration"), d. before 1683 (Gerard's will), m.(2) in 1677 at Saybrook,CT, Rebecca(Porter)Clark, daughter of John and Anne(White) Porter, he d. ca 1685. ( It is possible he was marries to two different Hannahs first. One in 1635, and then Hannah Hills) Hannah Spencer, b. ca 1640, m. ca 1664, Daniel Brainard, b. 1641, d. 1 Apr 1715. Sources: Family records, "The Spencers of the Great Migration" Vol 1,by Jack Taif Spencer and Edith Woolley Spencer, Gateway Press, Inc., Baltimore, MD, 1997 Thank you for making me do this out. I am handicapped by a computer crash lately and have to do these from hard copy right now. I needed someone to spur me on. Glad to meet a cousin, Gail ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== Welcome to the Middlesex County, CT Mailing List List Owner - Jane Devlin JaneDevlin@netquest.com

Sarah Bill of Middletown, born 10 Feb. 1762-3, married 1788 in Middletown to Tristram [Hall,Neill,Hull] depending on which source you use. Sarah died in Westfield,MA. in 1845. She was a widow at the time of her death. She had these children all supposedly born in Middletown---John,Samuel,Hiram,William,Sarah and Charles.Also a stillborn dau. on 20 Feb. 1793 to"Capt. Hull"[per Westfield Congregational Church records-page 273. I am descended from Hiram, born 24 Feb.1796,m. 1821 to Lucy Johnson. Would very much like to find out more about "Capt. Hull" as at present I am only making wild suppositions. I am guessing a birth date of 1750-60 and he would have died prior to 1845. According to marriage notices he was from Newport. Son Samuel went to Indiana,John m. P. Pomeroy and Sophia ?? in reverse order,William apparently stayed in Middletown,Sarah m. Ralph Lay, and Charles m. Mercy Ann Ward and lived i Westfield. Can anyone help nail down my elusive "Capt. Hull"??? Sandi Fish

I am looking for any information on my Ggrandparents who lived in Cromwell, CT. between 1900-1911. Their names are Josef and Rose(PRUSINOWSKI) LENDA. I have seen LENDA also spelled LADA,LENA and LUNDA. Josef and Rose were marred in St. Mary's Church in 1900. Their children include Ignathius, Frank, William and Helen. Frank and Helen were born in Portland, CT. Both Josef and Rose were born in Poland. Any information would be appreciated. Please Email: XxNancy248@aol.com Nancy Thomas

Hi: My Middlesex, Conn connection is Gerard Spencer. I am from his daughter Sarah, who married Stephen Backus and they lived in Canterbury, Windham, Co. Direct Descendants of Gerard Spencer 1 Gerard Spencer 1614 - 1685 .... +Hannah [Hills?] 1618 - 1683 2 Sarah Spencer 1644 - 1707 .... +Stephen Backus 1641 - 1695 3 Sarah Backus 1668 - 1742 .... +David Knight 1656 - 1744 4 Joseph Knight 1705 - 1739 .... +Sarah Read 1711 - 5 Anna "Hannah" Knight 1735 - 1809 .... +Daniel Baldwin II 1731 - 1816 6 Elijah Baldwin 1756 - 1841 *2nd Wife of Elijah Baldwin: .... +Polly 'Patty' Richardson 1768 - 1812 7 Ezra Baldwin 1805 - 1892 *2nd Wife of Ezra Baldwin: .... +Lydia Eaton 1810 - 1872 8 Henry Gilbert Baldwin 1836 - 1894 .... +Eleanor Serepta Fisher 1843 - 1924 9 Arthur Willis Baldwin 1876 - 1961 .... +Inez Evangeline Hallock 1886 - 1976 I have some Backus, Knight, and Spencer material at my web page, here: http://members.tripod.com/~ntgen/bw/index.html And some Connecticut history and links, here: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/hrtg/ct.html Norris Taylor Norris -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

Hello to Cousin Jerry and all Middlesex Co, Haddam and East Haddam are the source of my roots for this list. Surnames are RUSSELL, ACKLEY, SPENCER, BRAINARD, SELDEN, FULLER, ROWLEY, BLAKESLY(BLACKLY), DOOLITTLE, CHURCH, DUDLEY, RICHARDSON, and CHATFIELD. Some of these I have complete lines and some I have nothing more. At some point I will post some lines to the list. For now I just want to say hello to all the cousins out there. Here's to solving more genealogy mysteries by sharing information! Gail in Maine

Hi Middlesex Listers: My ancestors had deep roots in early Middlesex County, especially Haddam, CT. I am descended from five of that town's original founders: John Bailey, Daniel Brainerd, William Clark, Capt. Thomas Shailer, and Gerrard Spencer. I would like to share information with anyone who has the same interests. I am seeking biographical information and photocopies of any source material for the following ancestry: JOHN1 BAILEY [Haddam Founder] was born about 1618 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England, and died June 17, 1696 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. He married Lydia BACKUS who was born 31 DEC 1637 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England She died about 1696 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. She is the daughter of WILLIAM BACKUS [Saybrook and Norwich Founder] who was born about 1606 in Sheffield, Co. Yorkshire, England. He died 7 JUN 1664 in Norwich, New London, CT. JOHN2 BAILEY was born 1656 in Hartford, Hartford, CT, and died September 28, 1734 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. He married Elizabeth GERARD who was born about 1666 possibly in CT; she died AFT 1719 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. She is descended from: Robert GERARD, Elizabeth BECKWITH, Matthew BECKWITH [Saybrook Founder], and Elizabeth Mary LYNDE. EPHRAIM3 BAILEY was born January 01, 1690/91 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, and died March 27, 1761 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. He married (1) ELIZABETH. He married (2) Deborah BRAINERD who was born 3 APR 1698 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. She died about 1745 in CT. She is descended from: James BRAINERD, Deborah DUDLEY, Daniel BRAINARD [Haddam Founder], Hannah SPENCER, William DUDLEY Jr., Mary ROE, Gerrard SPENCER [Haddam Founder], Hannah Joannis HILLS, William DUDLEY Sr. [Guilford Covenant], Jane LUTEMAN, and Hugh ROE Jr. OLIVER4 BAILEY [Rev. War] was born June 25, 1738 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, and died 14 October 1822, Granville Center, Bradford County, Pennsylvania. He married Hannah SCOVILLE who was born 11 APR 1739 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. She died 18 OCT 1828 in Granville Center, Bradford, PA. She is descended from: William SCOVILLE Jr., Hannah SHAILER, William SCOVILLE Sr., Martha BAILEY, Capt Thomas SHAILER [Haddam Founder], Catherine CLARK, John SCOVILLE, Sarah BARNES, Thomas SHAILER, Alice Marah SPENCER, Joseph CLARK, Ruth SPENCER, Richard SCOVILLE, Mary Magdaline COOKE, Gerrard SPENCER [Haddam Founder], Hannah Joannis HILLS, WILLIAM CLARK [Haddam Founder], and Katherine BUNCE. THOMAS5 BAILEY was born February 11, 1765, Haddam, Middlesex, CT, and died about 1854. He married ESTHER SMITH at the New Haven Second Church in Jan.1788. Haddam. Middlesex County. Book One , Page 51. Nothing is known about Esther Smith, but I believe she may be descended from Simon SMITH [Haddam Founder]. SMITH6 BAILEY was born 03 November 1789, Haddam, Middlesex, CT, and died 07 June 1862, Davis Co., Iowa. He married Rosemanty ROGERS who was born 24 SEP 1789 in Catskill, Green, NY. She died 2 DEC 1843 in Washington Twp., Franklin Co., OH at 54 years of age. She is descended from: Zepheniah ROGERS [Rev. War] who was born 18 MAR 1747 in Mendon, Worcester, MA [Vital Records of Mendon, MA: Pg 97 Hayward, Zepheniah, son of Abigail 18 Mar 1746 (1746-7 Town Copy). Transcient person], Elizabeth ROOD, Abigail HAYWARD, Unknown1 Rogers, and Isaac ROOD. Orange7 BAILEY; PA>OH>IA David Solomon8 BAILEY; OH>IA>NE; GAR - 3d IA CAV David Jackson9 BAILEY; NE>ID Frank Jackson10 BAILEY: NE>ID>MT>ID>CA Velma Veda11 BAILEY; MT>ID>CA Jerry12 ENGLAND; CA Adios, Jerry England trails@ni.net http://www.cowboyup.com (Home) http://www.cowboyup.com/Back_Trail.html (Genealogy) Surnames: AVERY, BACKUS, BAILEY, BECKWITH, BOYD, BRAINERD, BROWN, BUNCE, CLARK, DUDLEY, ELLIS, GARDINER, GERARD, GROOMS, HALLOWELL, HAYWARD, HEAD, MC NEIL, NANNEY, PIERCE, PLIMPTON, POTTS, ROGERS, ROOD, SCOVILLE, SHAILER, SMITH, SPENCER, TILL, TYSON, WAGGONER, WILKIE