Hi Jerry, This is one of my lines, too, again! The information I have was received from a CT cousin and researcher and also backed up by "The History of the Dudley Family" by Dean Dudley. If you look below you will see I have changed your information by adding what I have. Jerry England wrote: > > Hi Listers, > > Can anyone give me some source material on this family? > > William1 DUDLEY, m. 24 Aug 1636, d.16 Mar 1683 and Jane LUTEMAN had the following child: > > + i.DEACON William2 DUDLEY was born 8 JUN 1639. > > Second Generation > >Deacon William2 DUDLEY (William1, David1) was born in at Sea 8 JUN 1639. Deacon William2 > died 17 MAY 1701 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT. > > He married Mary ROE in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT, 4 NOV 1661. Mary was born > in Weymouth, MA in 1643. She was the daughter of Hugh Jr. ROE. Mary died 23 > SEP 1727 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT. > > Deacon William2 DUDLEY and Mary ROE had the following child: > > + i. Deborah DUDLEY was born in Saybrook, CT, 11 NOV 1670. Deborah died 22 > JUL 1709 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, at 38 years of age. She married James > BRAINERD in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, 1 APR 1696. James was born in Haddam, > Middlesex, CT 2 JUN 1669. He was the son of Daniel BRAINARD, b1641, m ca1664, d.1 Apr 1715 and Hannah SPENCER, b ca 1640, daughter of Gerard SPENCER and Hannah (possibly HILLS). James died 10 FEB 1742 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, at 72 years of > age. >From your Cousin once more, Gail

On Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:44:59 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Hi Listers, > >Can anyone give me some source material on this family? > >William1 DUDLEY and Jane LUTEMAN had the following child: I didn't find this particular family, but genealogylibrary.com gives 304 hits for "William Dudley". I did find a later Daniel Dudley in Saybrook.... where there's smoke....?? _______________ History of the Dudley Family with Genealogical Tables, Pedigrees, & C 10. DANIEL2 DUDLEY(*) (William;2 William1), of Saybrook, Conn., was born there in 1680, and was a freeman there in 1704. He married Deborah Buell of Killingworth, Conn., Sept. 2, 1714 (marriage recorded at Saybrook), and they had the following children, as appears by the Saybrook Town Records, copied for me by Rev. Dr. D. D. Field in 1858, Liber II., page 132. I have since seen the original records myself at "Deep River," town clerk's office, near Saybrook: i. LUCIA,4 b. Aug. 19, 1715; d. June 29, 1730, unm. 22, if. DANIEL, Jr., b. July 29, 1719; d. Feb. 1, 1811, at Newport, N. H., aged 92; m. Susanna Chatfield of Killingworth. iii. DEBORAH, b. March 27, 1725. iv. LUCY, b. Jan. 24, 1731-2. 11. JOSEPH8 DUDLEY (Joseph,2 William1) was born June 11, 1671, at Guilford, and was elected a Deputy to the General Court in 1705. He married Abigail Hubbard, July 27, 1704, who died June 28, 1740. He died Feb. 22, 1726. The Probate Records are as follows: (*) In 1712 he calls himself. "Daniell Dudley of Say-Brook in the County of New London, and Colony of Connecticut, Weaver." See Vol. 2, p. 326, Saybrook Town Records. On page 129 of said Records is a deed of land from his brother, William Dudley, recorded June 2, 1705, and on page 131 is his own deed of land to the same brother, William Dudley. His marriage is recorded on page 132. Dea. William Dudley of Saybrook mentions this son Daniel in his will, which I found at New London, Conn., proved May 29, 1701. Daniel Dudley is mentioned in a list of the freemen of Saybrook in 1704. The baptism of his children I found in the parish Records of the oldest church of Saybrook, kept now at Saybrook Junction. Page 349 -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

Hi Listers, Can anyone give me some source material on this family? William1 DUDLEY and Jane LUTEMAN had the following child: + i. William2 DUDLEY was born 8 JUN 1639. Second Generation William2 DUDLEY (William1, David1) was born in at Sea 8 JUN 1639. William2 died 17 MAY 1701 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT. He married Mary ROE in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT, 4 NOV 1661. Mary was born in Weymouth, MA in 1643. She was the daughter of Hugh Jr. ROE. Mary died 23 SEP 1727 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT. William2 DUDLEY and Mary ROE had the following child: + i. Deborah DUDLEY was born in Saybrook, CT, 11 NOV 1670. Deborah died 22 JUL 1709 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, at 38 years of age. She married James BRAINERD in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, 1 APR 1696. James was born in Haddam, Middlesex, CT 2 JUN 1669. He was the son of Daniel BRAINARD and Hannah SPENCER. James died 10 FEB 1742 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, at 72 years of age. Adios, Jerry England trails@ni.net http://www.cowboyup.com (Home) http://www.cowboyup.com/Back_Trail.html (Genealogy) Surnames: AVERY, BACKUS, BAILEY, BECKWITH, BOYD, BRAINERD, BROWN, BUNCE, CLARK, DUDLEY, ELLIS, GARDINER, GERARD, GROOMS, HALLOWELL, HAYWARD, HEAD, MC NEIL, NANNEY, PIERCE, PLIMPTON, POTTS, ROGERS, ROOD, SCOVILLE, SHAILER, SMITH, SPENCER, TILL, TYSON, WAGGONER, WILKIE

Does anyone have the lineage back on Sidney BUSHNELL, b. @1799 in Old Saybrook, CT, the son of Ethan and Polly (?) BUSHNELL? Thank-you, Jennifer L.

Tracy: Did Jared SPENCER have a son named John? "The Founders of Saybrook Colony and Their Descendants: 1635-1985" says the following on John (fought with Lion Gardiner) SPENCER. "John Spencer probably had no children, since his nephew, John SPENCER was his heir and no wife or children were mentioned in his will." Jennifer L.

In a message dated 2/10/99 12:45:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, trails@ni.net writes: > Can anyone give me some source material on this family? > > William1 DUDLEY and Jane LUTEMAN had the following child: > > + i. William2 DUDLEY was born 8 JUN 1639. > > Second Generation > > William2 DUDLEY (William1, David1) was born in at Sea 8 JUN 1639. William2 > died 17 MAY 1701 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT. > > He married Mary ROE in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT, 4 NOV 1661. Mary was born > in Weymouth, MA in 1643. She was the daughter of Hugh Jr. ROE. Mary died 23 > SEP 1727 in Saybrook, Middlesex, CT. > from " Families of Early Guilford, CT" by Alvan Talcott page 331 William Dudley, died 16 March 1684. he married 24 August 1636 Jane Lutman who died 1 May 1674. From Oakley, England to Guilford, Conn, 1639. Children: 1. William, b. at sea 8 June 1639; died May 1701; mar. 4 Nov 1661 Mary Stow whose will is dated 15 June 1725. She married/2 Richard Dart of New London, CT. William was a shoemaker. Lived in Saybrook, CT. 2. Joseph, b. 24 April 1643; died 3 June 1712; mar 6 October 1670 Ann Robinson. He was a cooper. Lived in Guilford, CT (page 332) 3. Ruth, b 20 April 1645; mar 20 June 1664 John Whittlesey of Saybrook, CT 4. Deborah, b 20 September 1647; died October 1681; mar/1 Ebenezer Thompson, mar/2 Thomas Scranton m/3 (_____) Tracy

Hello I have seen the postings on John Spencer. I was reading the CT Nutmegger, volume 24, page 438 regarding Lion Gardiner and the Pequot Indians/War 1636/7 " From the fall of 1636 to when the Connecticut General Court ordered war against the Pequots in May of 1637, Gardiner wrote that he had already lost eight men from Indian attack. Along with Gardiner, Thomas Hurlbut and John Spencer were wounded by arrows. It is said that John Spencer returned to England in 1637 and died shortly thereafter." Can anyone tell me if this John Spencer is the brother of Jared Spencer? Tracy

Greetings from Helen in Kelowna, BC (that's Canada) I am looking for the wife of Phineas Knight (1731-1806) Rev. War Patriot who md Abigail - - -? Did he marry Abigail Birchard????? and was she a daughter of Lydia Backus & David Birchard? All help appreciated. Helen C

On Tue, 09 Feb 1999 07:45:53 -0800, you wrote: >Greetings from Helen in Kelowna, BC (that's Canada) >I am looking for the wife of Phineas Knight (1731-1806) Rev. War Patriot >who md Abigail - - -? >Did he marry Abigail Birchard????? >and was she a daughter of Lydia Backus & David Birchard? >All help appreciated. >Helen C Hi Helen: I can't help with your specific question. I have a Phineas Knight, b August 16, 1730 to David and Abigail (Crane) Knight. Is this he? I have him, I believe, from YOUR book on the Knights! Thanks. I share five immigrant ancestral couples with the 8/16/1730 Phineas: Knight, Rogers, Spencer, Backus, Tracy (He is also a Crane, but I'm not a Crane). If anyone needs those other lines on him, I can furnish that. Norris PS: Do you have any copies of your Knight book left? -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

Hi Norris, I, too, like solid sources but I trust information 50 years after the date more than assumptions 300+ years after the date. Good research is an excellant idea but I am a little leary also of the "babies being thrown out with the bath water" today because there isn't tangible physical evidence. My grandmother had no birth record and that was in 1897! Luckily there were school records so she could prove she was born to the Social Security people. They just didn't bother to record her birth. I am not sure those school records will be around in three hundred years so the only sources will be secondary, no primary ones, and they will be stuck with only my say so in the family book. I am sure this happened far more often in the sixteen hundreds! My other grandmother was not recorded until almost nine months after her birth because they were not sure she would live. That was in 1890! There is a whole family of children of Nathaniel Richmond who, because the Mayflower Society cannot find a birth record attributing them to Nathaniel were orphaned by them and only membership through his wife is allowed. There is record of them being his children in Joshua Bailey Richmond's "The Richmond Family" but they disallow that because there are mistakes elsewhere in the book. This is dangerous because we are losing our only sources on some lines and they are valid ones. The further we get from the fact the less we will have and in some cases we are in danger of changing history rather than clarifying it. Do not expect primary sources for everything in a world that had little paper and few who could read and write. They just do not exist. We still calculate age from date of death in many instances, even today. As for Jacobus (outstanding work!) and others, they were limited by time and space far more than we are now with our computers. I can sit here in Maine and check original sources all over the country. In their time it was grueling work to go to the towns themselves and dig the facts out. It is the way I started doing genealogy over 35 years ago and it takes untold hours of searching and sifting and recording. I am serious about some research needing to be done in the Lynn, Salem area. The land was sold as Salem land and I don't know how much searching has been done in that area. Time for one of those grueling trips, I guess (Yipee! yay! alright!). I love the Phillips Memorial Library in Salem! Gail This appears to be something > written sometime after she had died (1683), maybe from a county > history book? Who wrote it? How would they know about an event of 50 > years earlier (if it was written as early as 1683?) Why didn't Jacobus > and the army of other Spencer researchers since the 1850's ever find > it?

I'm so glad to see this list. My line is Simon, Simon, David, James, Hubbard, Silas, James Eugene, Clyde, Roger SMITH. Connecting to Spencer, Bailey, Shailor, Brainerd, Clarke, Tyler, Wells, Brooks, Arnold in Haddam; Hubbard and Payne in Middletown (Chatham); Gillett in Windsor. James went to Harpersfield, Delaware Co., New York by 1793; Silas returned to Haddam and Hartford by 1846 or so. I was delighted to see Haddam's web page by Timothy Tucker last year. I, however, have some differences with him in connection with Simon SMITH's data. Have not been able to reach him to resolve these, and don't really like to have data out there on the Web that I have not seen a source for. Since there was so much intermarrying in the early years of these settlements, we are going to have a grand time connecting! Averill

Congratualtions and 7,000 thanks to whomever set up this list! Those researching Clinton relatives from the 1900's may be interested to know that the Clinton Recorder published the vital records of the town for the year just ended in the first issue of the new year. Births, marriages and deaths for all but the end of December 1942, for example, appear in the Jan 7, 1943 issue. State legislation passed in 1943 prohibited the publication of birth records for 1943 to present. I just found the following years in an old trunk and made photo copies. For a few weeks I'll be able to do quick look-ups if you know the year and if it's birth-marriage or death. But this is a limited-time offer. Vital Statistics Available for years: 1919-22, 24-26, 28, 32-37, 40, 42-43, 46-48, 50, 52-57, 59. Other years should be available at the Henry Carter Hull Library, now on Rt 81, near the entrance to Exit 63 (and the outlet malls!) of I-95. (See Clinton Home page for hours). Happy Hunting, everyone. Martha Byrnes (MILLER, KELSEY, STANDARD, CARTER, others)

Hello cousins!! I think this list is a great idea!!! Here are some of the Middlesex County/New London County names I am researching: BRAINERD, YOUNG, HOUSE, SPENCER, BROOKS, PRENTIS, PRATT, RISLEY, DUDLEY, WINTHROP. Does any have Richard Brainerd's addressor E-mail? I am interested in attending the Brainerd family reunion in Haddam, CT this summer. Thank-you! I look forward to doing research with you all. Jennifer L.

Hi Listers, "Merrill Reich" <mreich@rocsoft.net> WROTE: >You might try Genealogies of Connecticut Families, Vol. I, pub. >Genealogical Publishing Co., Balt., 1983. John Bailey is treated on pp. >66-70. According to this article (from NEHGR) John Bailey m. prob. Lydia >Smith, dau. of Thomas Smith of Haddam; however, there is a brief article on >p. 70 that questions that assertion. According to this source his son John >(John, Jr.) m. Elizabeth Bate, dau of John and Elizabeth (Beckwith) Bate. >Their first son, John, was born in 1688. This birth date is consistent >with the marriage in 1687 cited in your query. As I am descended from this >John Bailey, Jr., I am interested in ensuring that I have the correct data. > Could you please cite the source of the marriage of John, Jr. to >Elizabeth Gerard in 1687 and list the children of the marriage. If the NEHGR article is wrong, I need to know it. My Reply: I also encountered the same conflict when I first discovered my BAILEY Family in Bradford Co., PA. A file from that Counties Historical Society stated, "Footnote Bailey, Genealogies of Connecticut Families from The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, Vol. I, p. 70: 1.) "In the article on John Bailey of Haddam, Conn., ante, page 60, is a statement, for which the author was not responsible, that the wife of John1 Bailey was probably a daughter of Thomas Smith of Haddam. Dr. James B. Field of Lowell, Mass., writes: "I doubt if Thomas Smith of Haddam had any daughter or any relative living in Haddam. To be sure, he left his land to John Baily's wife, but he also left his household stuff to Daniel Brainwood's wife, and the rest of his property to several of his townsmen. The most reasonable assumption is that the women had cared for him in his last illness, and the men were his personal friends. In this theory the late Charlotte Goldthwaite, an accurate and painstaking genealogist, agreed. In the partition of the land several years after Thomas Smith's decease, there is no more hint of his relation to any of the beneficiaries than there is in his will." I have gradually come to believe the information on the HADDAM Founders web site by Timothy Tucker is correct, See: "http://haddam.com/tucker/", "2. JOHN2 BAILEY (JOHN (HADDAM FOUNDER)1) was born 1656 in Hartford, Hartford, CT, and died September 28, 1734 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT. He married ELIZABETH GERARD 1687 in Haddam, Middlesex, CT, daughter of Robert Gerard and Elizabeth Beckwith. Notes: John is the only Bailey buried at Haddam with a head stone. He was burried near the southeastern border of the old ground laid out by his father. On January 20, 1732, John Bailey deeded his wife Elizabeth, half of his house, 2 acres of land, and all his personal effects if she do not again marry. Children of John Bailey and Elizabeth Gerard are: 8. i. JOHN JR.3 BAILEY, b. October 12, 1688, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; d. February 03, 1767, Haddam, Middlesex, CT. 9. ii. EPHRAIM BAILEY, b. January 01, 1690/91, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; d. March 27, 1761, Haddam, Middlesex, CT. 10. iii. ELIZABETH BAILEY, b. October 24, 1694, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; d. November 17, 1726, Milford, New Haven, CT. iv. LYDIA BAILEY, b. March 16, 1695/96, Haddam, Middlesex, CT. v. MEHETABEL BAILEY, b. June 04, 1698, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; d. January 20, 1731/32; m. BENJAMIN WEST, January 11, 1719/20. 11. vi. JONATHAN BAILEY, b. August 16, 1700; d. 1776. vii. DOROTHY BAILEY, b. July 11, 1703, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; m. JONATHAN SMITH, September 22, 1721. viii. MARY BAILEY, b. March 19, 1705/06, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; m. JOHN BEVIN, September 10, 1724. ix. DAVID BAILEY, b. August 08, 1710, Haddam, Middlesex, CT; d. July 1771; m. (1) JEMIMA; m. (2) JANE, July 20, 1730." I am still looking for a good source. I have been promised a copy of "The Ancestry of Emily Jane Angell_1844 -1910" by Dean Crawford Smith and Melinde Lutz Sanborn, New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, 1992, pp. 223-230. Elizabeth (BECKWITH) GERRARD appears on pp. 228-229 with her husbands and children, but don't have it yet. Can anyone else offer solid source material for these folks? Adios, Jerry England trails@ni.net http://www.cowboyup.com (Home) http://www.cowboyup.com/Back_Trail.html (Genealogy) Surnames: AVERY, BACKUS, BAILEY, BECKWITH, BOYD, BRAINERD, BROWN, BUNCE, CLARK, DUDLEY, ELLIS, GARDINER, GERARD, GROOMS, HALLOWELL, HAYWARD, HEAD, MC NEIL, NANNEY, PIERCE, PLIMPTON, POTTS, ROGERS, ROOD, SCOVILLE, SHAILER, SMITH, SPENCER, TILL, TYSON, WAGGONER, WILKIE

Hi: The descendant registers of the founders of Haddam are here: http://haddam.com/tucker/haddam_founders.htm The Haddam Home Page is here: http://haddam.com/ Norris -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 19:47:57 -0500, you wrote: >Hello to all, > >Having started looking into the Spencers in more depth, I am wondering >why brother John was left out of the group. SOTGM talks about the FOUR >brothers and their sister coming to Massachusetts Bay. There was a John >in Ipswich in 1634 and he was there until 1636. Who was that John and >was he the left out brother? It is generally "accepted" that the John Spencer in America was not the John Spencer, sibling to the Spencer immigrant siblings. He is covered in p 115 of the SOTGM. Jacobus addressed him as well. Jacobus concluded John, the sibling, died young. He was not named in the Spencer's uncle's will (1646), as the other siblings were. One source (C. E. Banks) says that John, the American immigrant, was from Kingston-on-the-Thames. There has apparently been no documents found that link this John together with the other Spencers. Although they were contemporaries. I don't want to discourage you from looking any further, but this fella has been pursued for over 150 years by others, including the dean of New England genealogists, Jacobus, with no results to date. Did this John have descendants? If he didn't, the motivation for linking him up with the Spencer siblings isn't very high. Norris -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 11:29:09 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Norris, > ><snip> However, >Jerry England who is also a descendant has e-mailed me the marriage date >from the records in Lynn, MA for Gerard and Hannah's marriage. I quote >Jerry "On 17 Dec 1636 when Gerard was 22, he married (1) Hannah HILLS, >in Lynn, Essex, MA. Born abt 1618 in England. Hannah died in Haddam, >Middlesex, CT bef Oct 1683; she was 65." Thanks for the information. However, the above does not appear to be a "town record", as in vital record. This appears to be something written sometime after she had died (1683), maybe from a county history book? Who wrote it? How would they know about an event of 50 years earlier (if it was written as early as 1683?) Why didn't Jacobus and the army of other Spencer researchers since the 1850's ever find it? I would be interested in the source of the above quotation?? And, the sources they have for an event that happened 50 years before it was written?? Sorry to be so finicky, but I remain unconvinced. Thanks for your support. Norris -- Silver Bullet <nmt1@ix.netcom.com> Home Page: http://members.aol.com/ntgen/index.html ---------------------------------------

Hello to all, Having started looking into the Spencers in more depth, I am wondering why brother John was left out of the group. SOTGM talks about the FOUR brothers and their sister coming to Massachusetts Bay. There was a John in Ipswich in 1634 and he was there until 1636. Who was that John and was he the left out brother? SOTGM has a John listed as born in 1604 and brother to the others on page 54. I can't find further mention of him. Also it mentions the land Gerard owned in Lynn and didn't sell until 1679 as being close to the Salem line. Having done some research in Salem I know that the line between Lynn and Salem can get "foggy" sometimes. There was much traffic between Ipswich and Salem at the time. Could John have lived on his brother's land after he went to CT? Whatever did happen to poor John? I wonder if we should check with Perley in Salem on this since at the time of the land sale it is described as being in Salem. Gail

I am searching for the ancestors of RICHARD FOUNTAIN b. 5 Jun 1823 England, d. 8 Sep 1867 Middletown, CT, m PHEBE PETTIT, d of SAMUEL PETTIT and REBECCA SELDEN bef. 1848. (birth of 1st child 1849) Buried in Farm Hill Cem. Only surviving child CHARLES FOUNTAIN b 1851, Middletown d 1936 Middletown, m FANNY EMMA FAY, d of JAMES PARDON FAY and ANNIE F. HUBBARD 1906. I was told a third cousin of CHARLES was FREDERICK B. FOUNTAIN b 1898. FRED was a prominent Middletown citizen (Councilman, Park Commissioner, F B Fountain & Co, Omo Mfg, The Stewart Press. His parents, from his S-S-5, are HENRY FOUNTAIN and HANNAH (ANNA) E. WOODS I am hoping some one of his descendents can tell me what the relationship is exactly and if HENRY had a brother who was a father of RICHARD FOUNTAIN. FRED's children were: FREDERICK IRVING, ARNOLD, CAROLYN, (m VANDERLIP) Dolores Strickland bndmstra@aol.com

Hi Everyone! I am looking for information on Phineas Allen or Alling, born in Wallingford, Waterbury, New London, or New Haven area's on October 5, 1754. I would like to know who his parents were, and anything at all about his background. He died in 1840 in Camden, Oneida Co, New York. He & his wife, reported to be Rebecca Alling (were they related?), had Persons P. Allen about 1781 in Connecticut. We don't know where in CT but would sure like to! We just know 1850, 1860, census indicate he was born in CT. He married Chloe Tuttle in Camden NY in 1805. They had several children, Royce, Mary (who is my Gr. Gr. Grandmother), Chloe P, and Andrew Tuttle Allen. Royce was born in 1817, 12 years after their marriage, so I think it's possible there are other brothers' & sisters too! Chloe's brother Andrew Tuttle, one of the first resdents in Camden NY, married Persons sister Philome Allen or Alling. Any thing you might know will be a big help Phineas & Persons seem to be a little bit of a mystery, along with Rebecca Alling!!! I am also looking for information about the Darby's from Canterbury Ct. We know that John Darby & Mary Blanchard Darby married in Dunstable about 1797, had William, and James who moved to Canterbury before 1720. Probably about 1717. James is my ancestor. He married Eleanor Shepherd and I would lik to have information about her family also. Right now I know James was born in Dunstable Mass 1701/2, moved to Canterbury about 1717. He married Eleanor in Dunstable Mass before 1724 when their son James Jr. was born. That's it!!! I have no birth date on Eleanor, no family! They had other children Samuel, Eleazer, & Jesse, & Eleazor is my ancestor. Eleazor married Anna Doubledee Aug 22, 1754 in Canterbury, and they had Rufus, Lucy, Mary, Susannah, Anna Sibyl & Joseph who was born Before August 23, 1772, his baptism date. I would love to know more about Anna Doubledee also, as this is all I know, just like Eleanor Shepherd. I don't have birth date, any family for them at all! Joseph married Anna Grow, daughter of Thomas Grow from Hampton CT. They moved to Cortland NEW YORK about 1802 with their son Lyman & Dau Dillie. If anyone has an information about this CT family, especially the early Darby's, I'd sure appreciate knowing it!!! Anything anyone comes up with will be appreciated! Thank you so much!!!