I've just become aware that there was something called the 'Susquehanna Company' about 1754-1803 that has something to do with land grants and migration from CT to PA. These are books listing names of CT folks that went 'west' to PA in the late 1700s? Does anyone have access to copies of these books? And would you be willing to search for any reference to LAWRENCE, Henry, Benjamin and Jonathan, and BAILEY, Robert, and Griffin. We know our LAWRENCEs say, on the PA census, that they came from CT to PA, but don't know why and can't find them in CT - yet! Thanks for any help - good searching to all! Linda LAWRENCE Laguna, NM -- ÐÏࡱá

Dear Dave and Neal: The "Middlesex County Biographical Record" says that George Hubbard and Elizabeth Watts had eight children: Mary (who married Thomas Ranney- "who was born in Scotland in 1616; he was a wealthy man and the only one of his family to come to America.") was the first, and Nathaniel was the sixth. There seems to be a lot on the Hubbard family in this record. Jennifer L.

Hi to all, I must unsubscribe for a while while I go take care of my Dad. Any important messages can go to my private e-mail but will sit until I get back I'm afraid. Dad doesn't have the computer bug so I will not have one available. Thanks for all the wonderful info so far and keep this great list going. I'll read the archhives when I return. Gail

Hi Folks, I try not to get into discussions on virus hoaxes but this one is NOT a hoax. It is listed and details given at the Symantec Virus site. I actually got one of these delivered in my mail. DO NOT OPEN or RUN it!!! I didn't and just deleted it. You have to empty your trash after deleting to be sure it is off your hard drive and won't get clicked on by accident. All was well with me because I followed the rules of NEVER opening an executable file when you don't know the source and haven't asked for it. Even so I had someone check my e-mail to be sure I was not sending it out to others. This thing attaches and can be sent without you knowing it to others but ONLY if you open it. Rootsweb protects us by blocking attachments and the source of my experience was not from a rootsweb list so rest easy on this list - the list Mom gets the joy of sorting through all that. Gail in Maine GMBird wrote: > > I have forwarded the e-mails I have received on Happy99 to MSN for > verification. I hope this is another hoax. > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Welcome to the Middlesex County, CT Mailing List > List Owner - Jane Devlin JaneDevlin@netquest.com

I have forwarded the e-mails I have received on Happy99 to MSN for verification. I hope this is another hoax.

Greetings, I'm new to the list and need to know where to look for shipping records between 1850 and 1890. Which port is the likely point of arrival for a ship sailing from Glasgow if the ultimate destination of an immigrant or passenger was Middletown? New London or New Haven were established ports by then, I believe, but were they likely for immigration purposes? James CRAIG came from Glasgow in 1850 or 1851. His family followed in 1851, he made at least one trip back to Scotland by about 1869 and a niece came to stay with the family for all of 1884. Can you help me narrow down the search for shipping records? Thanks, Tim Millar Cape Cod, MA

Alice, Are you the SYSOP, er -List Owner<G>? I just joined the list and will echo your warning about "Happy99". I *finally* heard from my researcher in Scotland last night after over a month of no messages. She explained that it really nailed her system and she's only now getting back to normal. She said it was making the rounds in some of the Scottish newsgroups. This is not technically a virus, but a Trojan Horse, or Worm, and is described and documented in the Symantec site you listed below. I know these warnings should only be transmitted through a List Owner, so I hope everyone will forgive the new guy if I've jumped the protocol. Tim Millar Cape Cod, MA Searching the family of James Craig, SCT > Middletown 1850-1851 > Symantec Anti Virus Research Center > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/

======================================================= With all the hoaxes and fake virus warnings that we see being passed around, it is easy to forget that there are real viruses out there with the capability to do real damage. One of the new viruses that is making the rounds on some mailing lists is the Happy99.exe or W32/Ska. This has infected several genealogy mailing lists and making a general nuisance of itself. For more information on the Happy99.exe worm, visit: http://beta.nai.com/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/w32ska.htm For information on other viruses, here are some helpful sites: McAfee's Virus Information Library http://vil.mcafee.com/villib/query3.asp Dr. Solomon's Virus Central http://www.drsolomon.com/vircen/index.cfm Symantec Anti Virus Research Center http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/

Hello I have been looking for years for the wife of John NORTON who was born Oct 8, 1686 in Saybrook, CT. He died Dec 24, 1764 in Durham, CT. He married Elizabeth (_________) prob. about 1710 in or around Saybrook. She died in Durham, CT May 13, 1751, age 68. I would GREATLY appreciate if anyone know her last name. Thank you. Tracy Tomaselli

Hello to All, Happy Valentine's Day! Here is my ACKLEY line. Thank you so much for the responses on the other lines. It has added so much to my records! Sources for this line are Connecticut Nutmegger, Family Records, town records and a wonderful visit to East Haddam to the site of the original Ackley house. The house has been replaced three or four times but the foundation is original. It is in the hands of direct descendants as it always has been. A question - Does anyone know what the origin of FORDHAM in Julia's name might have been? Julia Ann Fordham ACKLEY, b. 1 Sept 1819, d. 13 Aug 1882, m. 30 Aug 1840, Stephen Russell, b 1818, d. 14 Dec 1900. Nathan ACKLEY, b. 16 Apr 1781, d. 3 Jul 1854, m. Elizabeth FULLER( if anyone has her line I would love to have it!) Amasa ACKLEY, b. 17 Feb 1747/8, d. 3 Jun 1808, m.11 Nov 1766, Sarah FULLER(I have this line.) Elijah ACKLEY, b. 28 Mar 1719, d. 1804, m. 7 Jun1753, Abigail BLAKESLEY, dau of Samuel and Elizabeth (DOOLITTLE) BLAKESLEY. Samuel ACKLEY, b. ca1665, d. 27 Apr 1745, m.24 Nov 1727, Bethia ________. Nicholas ACKLEY, m. Hannah BENTON

Neal: Beer's "Biographical Record" of Middlesex County says Jonathan Burr was a decendant of Benjmain Burr- one of the first settlers of Hartford. The line goes Benjamin- Samuel- Jonathan, "born in 1679, married Abigail, daughter of Nathan Hubbard, and a granddaughter of George Hubbard, of Middletown. Jonathan settled early at Middletown." >From there the book traces only the line of Nathaniel, son of Jonathan and Abigail. Jennifer L.

Thanks Tracey, re march/april births---must be Mr. Burr was doing more in the summer than planting corn. :-) Neal TCT222@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 2/12/99 9:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, > ncarrier@dreamscape.com writes: > > > I'm looking for info on Hannah Burr b-1723 Middlesex d-1761 E. Haddam > > Married Daniel Fox 1747 > > Daughter of Jonathan Burr 1678-? and Abigal Hubbard 1685-? > > >From CT Nutmegger Vol 2, page 83 Middletown Birth Records > > Burr: > > Abigail, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 12, 1720/1 > Ebenezer, s. Jonathan & Abigail, Jan. 24, 1710/1 > Elizabeth, d. Jonathan & Abigail, Apr. 23, 1719 > Hannah, d. Jonathan & Abigail, Apr. 23, 1723 > Jonathan, s. Jonathan & Abigail, Mar 21 1712/3 > Mary, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 18, 1708/9 > Nathaniel, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 28. 1716/7 > Thankful, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 12, 1720/1 > > (I have to laugh at all the March and April births, makes me wonder if > Jonathan Sr. was born in June or July?) > > I hope this helps. > > Tracy > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Middlesex County GenWeb site > http://www.flash.net/~hmwalden/midlsxco.htm -- Neal F. Carrier Holland Patent, NY ncarrier@dreamscape.com Listowner CARRIER-L Mail List Rootsweb.com Contributor

Jane suggested I post this to the list. I have belonged to all of them. The Godfrey is the only one that is on line-hope the others will someday have a website. ********** Jane Glad to be of help. Here are some addresses that may prove helpful to those on this list. The Godfrey Memorial Library (Nancy Doane, is the director) http://www.godfrey.org They are located in Middletown, CT. The Godfrey has been in existence since the 1940s I believe. They are the publishers of THE AMERICAN GENEALOGICAL- BIOGRAPHICAL INDEX (AGBI), which now can be found on the Ancestry.com website. The Haddam Historical Society Hayden Hill Road Haddam, CT 06438 The Middlesex County Historical Society 151 Main Street Middletown, CT 06457 860-346-0746 The Director is Di Longley I could not find the address for the East Haddam Historical Society. Hope this is some help. Janice

In a 11 Feb 1999 message to CTMIDDLE-L Gail Howard wrote: >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 11:55:32 -0500 >From: Gail Howard <dardena@ime.net> >To: CTMIDDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <36C30B83.F3EE02E4@ime.net> >Subject: CHURCH line >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi Tracy, > >Sorry to take so long. Here is one line at least. These facts have NOT >been checked by me so I am not guaranteeing the accuracy of anything >here. >The sources are Connecticut researchers though, and fairly trustworthy >as far as my mother and I were concerned. Essentially the same information appears in "American Ancestry of L. Warren Church I -- Covering 44 New England Settler Families Including Karner, Younglove, Belden, Kellogg, and Terry" by Warren Church and Glenn W. Church (1984). I don't have the entire work, only copies of the title page and pages 58-63, which someone copied for me from an LDS microfiche. (Possibly anyone having access to a Family History Center could view or copy the same information there.) I did note a few small differences between the above work and Gail's posting which I have noted below, enclosed in [] marks. > >CHURCH: > >Rebecca CHURCH, b. ca 1654, d. 9 Jun 1726, m. 11 Feb 1666 (Check >out today's date!) to Joseph SELDEN, Bpt. 2 Nov 1651. [Page 62 of the above work also indicates she d. June 9, 1726, but also that Joseph was bpt. 2 Nov 1651 and d. July 14 1724/5, and was the son of Thomas.] > >Edward CHURCH, b. ca 1628, d. 1704, m. Mary _________. [Page 62 also indicates Edward was b. Feb 26,1628; d. Sept. 10 or 19, 1704 at Hatfield {MA?}; ma. Mary Hopkins who was b. 1637. Authors also note some disagreement re. her dod.] > >Richard CHURCH, b, 6 Feb 1610 at Braintree, Essex, Eng., d. Dec 1667, >m. 18 May 1627 in London, Eng., Anne MARSH, b. 10 Oct >1600 at Braintree, Essex, Eng., d. 10 Mar 1684, Hadley >MA. [On p.58 the above authors indicate this Richard was b.{same date}but in London, ENG; d. 16 Dec 1667 in Hatfield, MA; ma. Anne Marsh 18 May 1627 in Barnstable, EN. She was. b. 1600 {in where? ENG} and d. Mar 10 or 12 1684 or in Oct of that yr.in Hatfield.] > >Richard CHURCH, b.9 May 1570, Eng., m. 15 Dec 1592 at Bishop Court, >Alice ______, b. 1572, Braintree, Essex, Eng. > [On p. 61 the authors indicate he was a tailor and that he settled in Braintree, Essex Co. ENG in 1613.] >John CHURCH, b. ca 1548 at Samford, Essex, Eng., d. before 4 Nov 1593, >m. Joan TITYERELL, b. ca 1550 [On p. 61 the authors spell her name as Joan TITERELL.] > >John CHURCH, m. Catherine SWAN [On p. 61 the authors also say he ma. Catherine SWAN, but say about 1547.] > >Robert CHURCH, m. _______. [On p. 61 authors say Robert was b. about 1505.] > >Reynold CHURCH, m. Margaret GREENE, dau of Robert GREENE. [On p. 61 authors say he ma. 1496 to Margaret, dau. of Robert GREEN.] [On p. 60 the authors show another John CHURCH in the lineage, but do not give anything further on him, or the name of his wife.] > >John CHURCH, Jr, m Agnes ________. On p. 60 the authors indicate a John CHURCH who was b. 1365; d. 1450; ma. Agnes {__?__}. This John was elected Burgess of Parliament and Mayor of Leicester 1402-1422.] > >John CHURCH, b. 1365, d. 1450, m. Catherine ________. [On p. 60 authors do NOT show this John.-- but see John at CHURCH below.] > >John-at-CHURCH (I love this one!), b. 1335 at Great Parndon, Essex, >Eng, d. 1396, m. 1360, Catherine >Winchester, dau of Richard >Winchester. [On p. 60 the authors show the same info. I assume the at-Church indicates these people descended from a Welsh family, i.e. atte Church] [The above authors cited the source for the above lineage as, Church, Charles Washburn, "Simeon Church", 1913, pp. 3-7, but I have not seen that work, Apparently, however a reprint is available from Higginson Book Co. for $45.] > >A note of caution here! Medieval lines are being worked on and updated >often these days so it is important to keep checking the latest research >to keep the lines as accurate as possible. I would very much like to hear from anyone on the list, or any of the CCs to this message, who might have additional (or more accurate) info. on this lineage. Higginson Book Co. also lists copies of several other books re. the CHURCH line, but I don't know if any of them would contain additional or more-reliable information. Do any of you? BTW, in case anyone is interested, my line is from Mary CHURCH, sister of the above Edward (1628-1704.) According to the above authors (p.63) this Mary was b. Nov 2, 1632; d. 9 Jun 1695; ma. Sergeant Isaac GRAVES. One of their dau.Mehitable GRAVES ma. (2nd) William WORTHINGTON of Colchester (CT?). They were my ggggg-grandparents. > >Here is a site to East Haddam. It is really great to have Haddam and >East Haddam online. >Have fun! > >Gail > I certainly agree! Dexter Dexter Edge Jr. Olympia, WA

Hi.. Could those of you who have been researching this area for a while provide a list of books and CDs that cover the towns and families found in Middlesex County for the benefit of those just starting their search? It would be nice if in addition to titles and authors, a short review could be provided - i.e. what makes this book one that people should own or go searching for at a library or FHC? Is it worth the price being charged? And so on.... Thanks.. looking forward to some interesting posts. Jane

In a message dated 2/12/99 9:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, ncarrier@dreamscape.com writes: > I'm looking for info on Hannah Burr b-1723 Middlesex d-1761 E. Haddam > Married Daniel Fox 1747 > Daughter of Jonathan Burr 1678-? and Abigal Hubbard 1685-? >From CT Nutmegger Vol 2, page 83 Middletown Birth Records Burr: Abigail, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 12, 1720/1 Ebenezer, s. Jonathan & Abigail, Jan. 24, 1710/1 Elizabeth, d. Jonathan & Abigail, Apr. 23, 1719 Hannah, d. Jonathan & Abigail, Apr. 23, 1723 Jonathan, s. Jonathan & Abigail, Mar 21 1712/3 Mary, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 18, 1708/9 Nathaniel, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 28. 1716/7 Thankful, d. Jonathan & Abigail, March 12, 1720/1 (I have to laugh at all the March and April births, makes me wonder if Jonathan Sr. was born in June or July?) I hope this helps. Tracy

Hi Listers, I took the advice of a couple of Listers and joined the GenealogyLibrary.com site. I agree it is a gold mine for early Puritan ancestry. Now, I'm seeking the parents of +David Dudley, born Abt. 1579 in Darking, Surrey, England; died 1646 in England. He married Joanna?? Arnold May 16, 1604 in Darking, Surrey, England. His father may be Squire Thomas Dudley b. abt 1586 in Darking, Surrey, England. Adios, Jerry England trails@ni.net http://www.cowboyup.com (Home) http://www.cowboyup.com/Back_Trail.html (Genealogy) Surnames: AVERY, BACKUS, BAILEY, BECKWITH, BOYD, BRAINERD, BROWN, BUNCE, CLARK, DUDLEY, ELLIS, GARDINER, GERARD, GROOMS, HALLOWELL, HAYWARD, HEAD, MC NEIL, NANNEY, PIERCE, PLIMPTON, POTTS, ROGERS, ROOD, SCOVILLE, SHAILER, SMITH, SPENCER, TILL, TYSON, WAGGONER, WILKIE

Hello Michael, By any chance is your Harris/Weld line Daniel Harris 1612/1701 and Marah Weld 1629/1711? How about William Ward 1632/1690 and wife Phebe (perhaps Fenner) 1633/1691? Even if they are not, have you found any good sources of information about the people from Middletown? My family was there from the beginning until about 1822 and I really need to find better source information. Louise Temples pc_genie@ix.netcom.com MGray64564@aol.com wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I share Jerry England's Haddam families (Bailey, Brainard, Spencer, > Shailor/Shaylor, Scoville etc.) I am descended from Oliver4 Bailey. > > Also descended from early Middletown settlers - Harris/Weld, Bacon, Miller, > Ward, Wetmore, Atkins (Adkins), Bow, and families they intermarried with. > Some of these families settled Middlefield and married into my Terrill family > that returned from VT in the mid 1800s. > > I would love to exchange info with anyone connected with these families. I > have visited both Jerry and Norris' web sites and would like you both to know > that I find them impressive. > > Michael > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Middlesex County GenWeb site > http://www.flash.net/~hmwalden/midlsxco.htm

Hello all I'm looking for info on Hannah Burr b-1723 Middlesex d-1761 E. Haddam Married Daniel Fox 1747 Daughter of Jonathan Burr 1678-? and Abigal Hubbard 1685-? Seeking to solve a family mystery. thanks -- Neal F. Carrier Holland Patent, NY ncarrier@dreamscape.com Listowner CARRIER-L Mail List Rootsweb.com Contributor

Janice I have an Elisha b 1767 m Mary Fuller in 1795 in East Haddam Conn. Elisha's mother was Rebecca Sears of East Haddam. Most likely this one may be the father of the Elisha your asking about. I have a lot of ancestor info on Elisha but no descendant info. Let me know If I can help out. Neal Whigmaster@aol.com wrote: > Nicki > Working on my SCOVILLE line I have run across the name Carrier. Elisha Carrier > m. Lodemia Scoville 1813 in Goshen, CT. However, the Scovilles were from East > Haddam, Haddam, Middletown, Lyme, so I am thinking that Elisha came from the > East Haddam/Haddam Carrier line, although I have nothing to prove it. > > If you ever come across this name in your research I would love to hear from > you. I am not a descendant of this name, but it is an important piece in my > research. > > By the way, I was born and raised in Middletown and still work there. Perhaps > you are thinking of the CT River? Have your tried contacting the Haddam or E. > Haddam Historical Societies? Let me know and I can get their address for you. > > Janice > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Middlesex County GenWeb site > http://www.flash.net/~hmwalden/midlsxco.htm -- Neal F. Carrier Holland Patent, NY ncarrier@dreamscape.com Listowner CARRIER-L Mail List Rootsweb.com Contributor -- Neal F. Carrier Holland Patent, NY ncarrier@dreamscape.com Listowner CARRIER-L Mail List Rootsweb.com Contributor