Warren....Thank you for the information, as well as phone numbers. I see I have a mission Mon. A.M. I appreciate the help. One question, if I may? What type of industry would have attracted immigrants in the late 1880's (c. 1883) to New Britain? Sharon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Warren Wetmore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Churches in New Britain > Try this one: > > FIRST LUTHERAN CHURCH OF THE REFORMATION, 860-224-2475 > 77 FRANKLIN SQUARE, NEW BRITAIN CT 06051 > > Call 'em up -- "First" implies the oldest, if the Lutherans employ the same > nomenclature as we Presbyterians. > > Except there appears to be another one: > > St Matthews Lutheran Church Missouri Synod > 20 Franklin Square, New Britain, CT 06051 > (860) 223-3503 > > which is nearby but may be a different flavor of American Lutheran. Which > might throw the nomenclature out of whack. St. Matt's, like many Lutheran > churches, has a parish school. > > HTH, > > Warren > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sharon sterle" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:37 PM > Subject: [CTMID] Churches in New Britain > > > | Does anyone know if there is a Lutheran church in or near New Britain > | dating back to 1882? I'm attempting to find family information after > having received confirmation of my family living there after the first of > the year, 1883 to ?. > | Thank you. > | Sharon > | > | > | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > | Visit the Godfrey Memorial Library Website > | http://www.godfrey.org > | Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT > | > | ============================== > | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > | > | > > > ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== > Visit the Godfrey Memorial Library Website > http://www.godfrey.org > Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Try this one: FIRST LUTHERAN CHURCH OF THE REFORMATION, 860-224-2475 77 FRANKLIN SQUARE, NEW BRITAIN CT 06051 Call 'em up -- "First" implies the oldest, if the Lutherans employ the same nomenclature as we Presbyterians. Except there appears to be another one: St Matthews Lutheran Church Missouri Synod 20 Franklin Square, New Britain, CT 06051 (860) 223-3503 which is nearby but may be a different flavor of American Lutheran. Which might throw the nomenclature out of whack. St. Matt's, like many Lutheran churches, has a parish school. HTH, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "sharon sterle" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: [CTMID] Churches in New Britain | Does anyone know if there is a Lutheran church in or near New Britain | dating back to 1882? I'm attempting to find family information after having received confirmation of my family living there after the first of the year, 1883 to ?. | Thank you. | Sharon | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | Visit the Godfrey Memorial Library Website | http://www.godfrey.org | Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

I have permission to pass this on to the list. If this is of interest to anybody, send a message to the owner of the photo. Harry Walden, Georgetown, TX http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctmiddle/midlsxco.htm http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hmwalden [email protected] http://www.rootsweb.com/~txwcgs/wcgs.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 1:55 PM Subject: photo > I have a 5 x 7 photo of the 7th Grade Class of the grammar school on > Freestone Avenue, Portland, Connecticut, for the school year 1927-1928; > the class photo consists of 31 pupils - and a dog! If anyone would like > an e-mailed copy of this photo, please contact me: Karlynn J. > Gustafson, email [email protected] My father, Alf Gustafson, now > age 86 was a member of this class. > >

Hi, Cuz -- I have been told in no uncertain terms that there is no documentation to show that John was the father of Francis/1 and Thomas/1. And Thomas spelled his name using some variant of WETMORE before settling on WHITMORE in his will. I don't know if there is anything firm connecting Thomas/1 with Francis/2, more than the latter's move to Middletown. The two girls, supposedly their sisters, married and stayed in MA. The youngest, John (Jr.), went with this father and stepmother in the Rev. Denton's hegira to Stamford in 1641. John Sr. was killed by Mohegan Indians in 1648, as you know. I've never heard about any will. Alas, until some evidence of their origins is turned up in the UK we're probably stuck. Supposedly they took ship from Bristol, and curiously that's where there is the densest collection of WETMOREs in ENG today. Best, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT | In a message dated 1/17/02 5:39:10 PM, [email protected] writes: | | << Thomas, of course, was uncle to Francis/2 and that's probably why | Francis/2 moved to Middletown out of all the towns in Colonial New England. | >> | | John Whitmore, father of both Francis Sr & Thomas as well as others, was | first recorded in Wethersfield 1639; may have lived first in MA, though no | record. Removed abt 1641 to Stamford CT as one of first settlers there; chose | representative to New Haven Assembly 1647 for Stamford. So perhaps others of | the siblings were in CT near Middletown, too. | | Dona Ritchie |

What type of work would have been offered to immigrants in Tinicum in c. 1883?

This is what I have on the Elizabeth who was the daughter of John and Mary: 1.  JOHN3 WETMORE  (THOMAS2, JOHN1) was born Abt. September 06, 1646 in Hartford, CT(Source: Hartford, CT Vital Records.), and died August 31, 1696 in Middletown,CT (Source: Middletown, CT Vital Records.).  He married (1) ABIGAIL WARNER 1680.    Hemarried (2) MARY SAVAGE April 01, 1686 in Middletown, CT (Source: Familyof John Savage of Middletown, CT - James Francis Savage 1894.), daughter ofJOHNSAVAGEand ELIZABETH DUBBIN.  She was bornJune 25, 1663 in Middletown, CT (Source: Family of John Savage ofMiddletown, CT - James Francis Savage 1894.), and died October 20, 1723 inMiddletown, CT (Source: Family of John Savage of Middletown, CT - JamesFrancis Savage 1894.).         Children of JOHN WETMORE and MARY SAVAGE are: 2.                i.       ELIZABETH4 WETMORE, b. March20, 1686/87, Middletown, CT; d. Aft. 1724.                   ii.       MARY WETMORE, b. January 18, 1691/92.                  iii.       JOHN WETMORE, b. May 21, 1694; d. February 02, 1723/24.                  iv.       EBENEZER WETMORE, b. September 17, 1696, Middletown, CT; m. ELIZABETH CORNWALL. Generation No. 2 2.  ELIZABETH4 WETMORE (JOHN3, THOMAS2, JOHN1) was born March 20, 1686/87 in Middletown, CT (Source:(1) My Own record of the Descendants of John Whitmore/Wetmore - Raeola FordCooke 1987., (2) Middletown, CT Vital Records .), and died Aft.1724.  She married RICHARD ELTON July 06,1708 in Middeltown, CT (Source: (1) My Own record of the Descendants of JohnWhitmore/Wetmore - Raeola Ford Cooke 1987., (2) Middletown, CT VitalRecords.), son of JOHN ELTON and JANE HALL.  He was bornApril 1679 in Middletown, CT (Source: Middletown, CT Vital Records.),and died 1758 in Middletown, CT. I don't have any inof on the children of Francis. Michael        

Does anyone know if there is a Lutheran church in or near New Britain dating back to 1882? I'm attempting to find family information after having received confirmation of my family living there after the first of the year, 1883 to ?. Thank you. Sharon

Here's another one for the archives....... Rev. Cyrus Hyde Fay's Record of Marriages "In this city Mar.22, 1860, Mr. Charles C. Hubbard of Middletown, Conn., and Miss Mary A. Blossom of Providence." NEHGS Register 1923, Volume 77, Page 178, July

In a message dated 1/17/02 5:39:10 PM, [email protected] writes: << Thomas, of course, was uncle to Francis/2 and that's probably why Francis/2 moved to Middletown out of all the towns in Colonial New England. >> John Whitmore, father of both Francis Sr & Thomas as well as others, was first recorded in Wethersfield 1639; may have lived first in MA, though no record. Removed abt 1641 to Stamford CT as one of first settlers there; chose representative to New Haven Assembly 1647 for Stamford. So perhaps others of the siblings were in CT near Middletown, too. Dona Ritchie

In a message dated 1/17/02 12:06:18 PM, [email protected] writes: << The e-version of the J Carnahan Wetmore genealogy has an Elizabeth as the child of John WHITMORE/WETMORE and his second wife, Mary SAVAGE, d/o John SAVAGE and Mary DUBBIN, I think. From his first marriage to Abigail he had Thomas and Abigail, says JCW. Any idea of which is right? >> In a message dated 1/17/02 5:17:48 PM, [email protected] writes: << The children of Francis Jr. are named in this will and there is no Elizabeth among them. However, Francis Sr. died in 1750 and she died 1743. >> I, too, have the information on Elizabeth, b Middletown 20 Mar 1686 (Barbour Collection), daughter of John Wetmore & second wife Mary Savage. Mary married John 1 Apr 1686 in Middletown, and after John's death in 1696 married Obadiah Allen. I don't have other children listed for either marriage, though there probably were some. For the other Elizabeth, daughter of John Whitmore & Abigail Warner, I have only a death date of 31 Jan 1743. Looking back at A.W. Savage's references for his facts on this Elizabeth, I find he cites Adams, "Middletown Upper Houses", p 159, for the death date and Savage, "Family of John Savage", p 10, for her parentage and first marriage to Daniel Clark. As for Francis Wetmore Sr, in his will he does mention a daughter Elizabeth, amongst others. I take it you're suggesting that these Elizabeths are the same, and the John Whitmore/Wetmores mentioned are the same, leading to the question of which wife was mother of Elizabeth--Abigail Warner (first wife) or Mary Savage (second wife). Susan replied with good information on the Elizabeths and the various marriages. I really have no other information to add. But I'd like to ask where is that online version of the Wetmore genealogy? Dona Ritchie

A few more marriage in HARTFORD involving Middlesex County people: BRAINARD M A, of Chatham, m A B YANCY, Oct 24, 1843, by Rev John Moore BROWN Elisabeth, Mrs., of Hartford, m Lorenzo MASON of Middle Haddam, Dec 7, 1843, by Rev J W C Pennington. Int. pub. James C, of Saybrook, m Mary Ann USBURN of Hartford, Sept 23, 1850, by Rev Henry J Fox Samuel, m Jennett RANSOM of Middletown, Aug 2, 1835, by Rev G F Davis BUCKMINISTER Otis E, of Middletown, m Martha Hardy GETSTON of Coventry, Dec 1, 1852, by Rev Charles R Fisher BURNHAM, BURNAM, BURNHUM J A, of East Hartford, m Mary G CHILDS of Haddam, Feb 18, 1841, by Rev John Moore Mary, of Windsor, m Leonard HOSMER of Middletown, Oct 15, 1826, by Rev T Spicer BURR, BUR Jane E, of Hartford, m Robert JOHNSON of Middletown, July 3, 1833, by Rev Horace Bushnell BURROUGH, BURROWS Cyrus, m Elizabeth GRAHAM of Middletown, Sept 30, 1832, by Rev Matthew H Smith CADWELL, CADWELE Edward Starr, of Hartford, m Emily Maria WATSON of Middletown, June 7, 1848, by Rev A C Coxe Cheers, Coralynn

Wow, thanks, Multicuz Susan! I'll certainly save this. Looks like there is still a mystery. Best, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Taylor" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT | Hi Warren! | | A WETMORE posting on the list gets my attention. | | >The e-version of the J Carnahan Wetmore genealogy has an Elizabeth as the | >child of John WHITMORE/WETMORE and his second wife, Mary SAVAGE, d/o John | >SAVAGE and Mary DUBBIN, I think. From his first marriage to Abigail he had | >Thomas and Abigail, says JCW. | > | >Any idea of which is right? | | Here's my 2 cents on the subject and it might not even be worth that. | | Sources: | | 1. Barbour Collection, Connecticut Vital Records of Middletown, | Births-Marriages-Deaths, 1651-1854, (Hartford: Connecticut State Library, | 1923), Vol. I-Z, p. 482. | | WETMORE/WETTMORE section | | Only Elizabeths in the 1680s time frame: | "Elizabeth, d. John & Mary, b. Mar. 20 1686 LR1:32" | "Elizabeth, d. Thomas, b. Sept. 2, 168[ ] LR1:22" | | As neither of these DOBs seems to be 1684 - the 2nd one may be but | illegible to the transcriber, whether either is the Elizabeth in question | is beyond me. The John & Mary, the first ones parents, may be John WETMORE | and Mary SAUNDERS (per Middletown VR) who were married in Middletown on Apr | 1, 1686. Savage, Wetmore Family, and Families of Hartford (Barbour) has | Mary's maiden name as SAVAGE while Barbour Collection of Middletown VRs has | it as SAUNDERS. Torrey notes the error with p. 810, "Mary Savage (Sanders | wrong)." Their marriage along with John's first wife is listed in the | Middletown Barbour Collection: | | I-Z:484: | "John m. Abigaill Warner, Dec. 30, 1680 LR1:32" | "John m. Mary Saunders, Apr. 1 1686 LR1:32" | | The JC Wetmore's, WETMORE Family genealogy, p. 27, agrees on these marriage | dates. Do note the same ledger and page number for the 1st Elizabeth and | John's 2 marriages. If this Eliz. is dau. of this John and Mary, then they | probably married with a shotgun to John's head - note the dates. Of course | double dating may enter in here?? Savage, IV:527 says Elizabeth dau. of | John and Mary was born 20 Mar 1687. Sooo her DOB probably should read 20 | Mar 1686/87??? | | Here's Abigail's death listing in 1685 which is in line for a 2nd marriage | the following year: | I-Z:481: | "Abiga[i]ll, w. of John, d. May 5, 1685 LR1:32" | | There is no marriage listing for Elizabeth and a CLARK in the | WETMORE/WETTMORE or the WHITMORE sections of BarbourMiddletown. | | --- Susan | | | | | | | | >Best, | > | >Warren | > | > | >----- Original Message ----- | >From: <[email protected]> | >To: <[email protected]> | >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:29 PM | >Subject: Re: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT | > | > | >| In a message dated 1/16/02 10:47:44 PM, [email protected] writes: | >| | >| << Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK | >| http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm | >| Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? >> | >| | >| The information I have says Elizabeth was daughter of John Whitmore & | >Abigail | >| Warner and she married first Daniel Clark, son of Sgt. John Clark and | >| Elizabeth White. She married second Capt. William Savage, son of John | >Savage | >| & Elizabeth Dubbin. She married third -- Williams. See "The New England | >| Ancestry of Albert Wilcox Savage, Jr.", Vol I & II by Albert W. Savage, | >Jr. | >| (Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1988 & 1994). | >| | >| Capt. William Savage, one of my ancestors, was married first to Christian | >| Mould. Two of his siblings, John Savage and Sarah Savage, are also my | >| ancestors. I have no further information about John Whitmore and Abigail | >| Warner. | >| | >| Dona Ritchie | >| | >| | >| ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | >| For anyone who missed them, Robert Squire has posted images of | >| Middlesex County section of John Warner Barber's Connecticut Historical | >Collections at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ctimages/ | >| | >| ============================== | >| To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, | >go to: | >| http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | >|

Prentiss Glazier in Clark-Clarke Families of Early Connecticut, 1973manuscript in CT State Library gives the following: Daniel CLARK (John2, Wm.1) b. 1680, Middletown; m. there 1704, Elizabeth, dau. Franics WHITMORE or WETMORE. He died there in March 1725, and his wid. m (2) William Savage, who d. soon therafter. She d. Jan. 31, 1743. His will, naming wife and children, refers also to land inherited from "my grandfather Harris". Church records at Middletown. I have a wife of Francis, Sr. as being Hannah HARRIS. I also surmise from Daniel's probate records that Elizabeth married a WILLIAMS after the death of William SAVAGE. The will of Daniel CLARK has been posted by our list mom at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/wills/clark_daniel1725.htm Also she has posted the will of Francis WHITMORE at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/wills/whitmore_francis1750.htm The children of Francis Jr. are named in this will and there is no Elizabeth among them. However, Francis Sr. died in 1750 and she died 1743. This is not my direct CLARK line. David >From: "Warren Wetmore" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT >Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:42:58 -0600 > >Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK > >http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm > >Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? > >Best, > >Warren Wetmore > > >==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== >For anyone who missed them, Robert Squire has posted images of >Middlesex County section of John Warner Barber's Connecticut Historical >Collections at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ctimages/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

Thanks, David. That was my first suspicion. The man I call Francis "Jr." is Francis/2 WHITMORE, son of Francis/1 WHITMORE of Cambridge, MBC -- who was brother to my Thomas/1 WHITMORE/WETMORE. Thomas, of course, was uncle to Francis/2 and that's probably why Francis/2 moved to Middletown out of all the towns in Colonial New England. Looks like there were too many ELIZABETHs running around Middletown. Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Hoffman" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT | | Prentiss Glazier in Clark-Clarke Families of Early Connecticut, | 1973manuscript in CT State Library gives the following: | | Daniel CLARK (John2, Wm.1) b. 1680, Middletown; m. there 1704, Elizabeth, | dau. Franics WHITMORE or WETMORE. He died there in March 1725, and his wid. | m (2) William Savage, who d. soon therafter. She d. Jan. 31, 1743. His | will, naming wife and children, refers also to land inherited from "my | grandfather Harris". Church records at Middletown. | | I have a wife of Francis, Sr. as being Hannah HARRIS. | | I also surmise from Daniel's probate records that Elizabeth married a | WILLIAMS after the death of William SAVAGE. | | The will of Daniel CLARK has been posted by our list mom at | http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/wills/clark_daniel1725.htm | | Also she has posted the will of Francis WHITMORE at | http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/wills/whitmore_francis1750. htm | | The children of Francis Jr. are named in this will and there is no Elizabeth | among them. However, Francis Sr. died in 1750 and she died 1743. | | This is not my direct CLARK line. | | David | | | | | >From: "Warren Wetmore" <[email protected]> | >Reply-To: [email protected] | >To: [email protected] | >Subject: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT | >Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 00:42:58 -0600 | > | >Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK | > | >http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm | > | >Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? | > | >Best, | > | >Warren Wetmore | > | > | >==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | >For anyone who missed them, Robert Squire has posted images of | >Middlesex County section of John Warner Barber's Connecticut Historical | >Collections at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ctimages/ | > | >============================== | >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, | >go to: | >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | > | | | _________________________________________________________________ | MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: | http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | Welcome to the Middlesex County, CT Mailing List | List Mom - Jane Devlin [email protected] | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

Jane, Do you know if there is a simular mailing list like this one for CT, for your state of Michigan? Please advise---Dave Bruna [email protected]

Hi Warren! A WETMORE posting on the list gets my attention. >The e-version of the J Carnahan Wetmore genealogy has an Elizabeth as the >child of John WHITMORE/WETMORE and his second wife, Mary SAVAGE, d/o John >SAVAGE and Mary DUBBIN, I think. From his first marriage to Abigail he had >Thomas and Abigail, says JCW. > >Any idea of which is right? Here's my 2 cents on the subject and it might not even be worth that. Sources: 1. Barbour Collection, Connecticut Vital Records of Middletown, Births-Marriages-Deaths, 1651-1854, (Hartford: Connecticut State Library, 1923), Vol. I-Z, p. 482. WETMORE/WETTMORE section Only Elizabeths in the 1680s time frame: "Elizabeth, d. John & Mary, b. Mar. 20 1686 LR1:32" "Elizabeth, d. Thomas, b. Sept. 2, 168[ ] LR1:22" As neither of these DOBs seems to be 1684 - the 2nd one may be but illegible to the transcriber, whether either is the Elizabeth in question is beyond me. The John & Mary, the first ones parents, may be John WETMORE and Mary SAUNDERS (per Middletown VR) who were married in Middletown on Apr 1, 1686. Savage, Wetmore Family, and Families of Hartford (Barbour) has Mary's maiden name as SAVAGE while Barbour Collection of Middletown VRs has it as SAUNDERS. Torrey notes the error with p. 810, "Mary Savage (Sanders wrong)." Their marriage along with John's first wife is listed in the Middletown Barbour Collection: I-Z:484: "John m. Abigaill Warner, Dec. 30, 1680 LR1:32" "John m. Mary Saunders, Apr. 1 1686 LR1:32" The JC Wetmore's, WETMORE Family genealogy, p. 27, agrees on these marriage dates. Do note the same ledger and page number for the 1st Elizabeth and John's 2 marriages. If this Eliz. is dau. of this John and Mary, then they probably married with a shotgun to John's head - note the dates. Of course double dating may enter in here?? Savage, IV:527 says Elizabeth dau. of John and Mary was born 20 Mar 1687. Sooo her DOB probably should read 20 Mar 1686/87??? Here's Abigail's death listing in 1685 which is in line for a 2nd marriage the following year: I-Z:481: "Abiga[i]ll, w. of John, d. May 5, 1685 LR1:32" There is no marriage listing for Elizabeth and a CLARK in the WETMORE/WETTMORE or the WHITMORE sections of BarbourMiddletown. --- Susan >Best, > >Warren > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:29 PM >Subject: Re: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT > > >| In a message dated 1/16/02 10:47:44 PM, [email protected] writes: >| >| << Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK >| http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm >| Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? >> >| >| The information I have says Elizabeth was daughter of John Whitmore & >Abigail >| Warner and she married first Daniel Clark, son of Sgt. John Clark and >| Elizabeth White. She married second Capt. William Savage, son of John >Savage >| & Elizabeth Dubbin. She married third -- Williams. See "The New England >| Ancestry of Albert Wilcox Savage, Jr.", Vol I & II by Albert W. Savage, >Jr. >| (Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1988 & 1994). >| >| Capt. William Savage, one of my ancestors, was married first to Christian >| Mould. Two of his siblings, John Savage and Sarah Savage, are also my >| ancestors. I have no further information about John Whitmore and Abigail >| Warner. >| >| Dona Ritchie >| >| >| ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== >| For anyone who missed them, Robert Squire has posted images of >| Middlesex County section of John Warner Barber's Connecticut Historical >Collections at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ctimages/ >| >| ============================== >| To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >| http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >| >| > > >==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== >You can search the archives for the list at >http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=CTMIDDLE > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, Cuz Dona -- Thanks very much. The e-version of the J Carnahan Wetmore genealogy has an Elizabeth as the child of John WHITMORE/WETMORE and his second wife, Mary SAVAGE, d/o John SAVAGE and Mary DUBBIN, I think. From his first marriage to Abigail he had Thomas and Abigail, says JCW. Any idea of which is right? Best, Warren ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) Middletown, CT | In a message dated 1/16/02 10:47:44 PM, [email protected] writes: | | << Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK | http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm | Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? >> | | The information I have says Elizabeth was daughter of John Whitmore & Abigail | Warner and she married first Daniel Clark, son of Sgt. John Clark and | Elizabeth White. She married second Capt. William Savage, son of John Savage | & Elizabeth Dubbin. She married third -- Williams. See "The New England | Ancestry of Albert Wilcox Savage, Jr.", Vol I & II by Albert W. Savage, Jr. | (Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1988 & 1994). | | Capt. William Savage, one of my ancestors, was married first to Christian | Mould. Two of his siblings, John Savage and Sarah Savage, are also my | ancestors. I have no further information about John Whitmore and Abigail | Warner. | | Dona Ritchie | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | For anyone who missed them, Robert Squire has posted images of | Middlesex County section of John Warner Barber's Connecticut Historical Collections at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ctimages/ | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

In a message dated 1/16/02 10:47:44 PM, [email protected] writes: << Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? >> The information I have says Elizabeth was daughter of John Whitmore & Abigail Warner and she married first Daniel Clark, son of Sgt. John Clark and Elizabeth White. She married second Capt. William Savage, son of John Savage & Elizabeth Dubbin. She married third -- Williams. See "The New England Ancestry of Albert Wilcox Savage, Jr.", Vol I & II by Albert W. Savage, Jr. (Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1988 & 1994). Capt. William Savage, one of my ancestors, was married first to Christian Mould. Two of his siblings, John Savage and Sarah Savage, are also my ancestors. I have no further information about John Whitmore and Abigail Warner. Dona Ritchie

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Elizabeth WHITMORE (1684-1743) m. CLARK http://www.artdsm.com/clark/database/2956.htm Is she a daughter of Francis WHITMORE, Jr.? Best, Warren Wetmore