This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xY.2ADI/61.187 Message Board Post: Just found this message board and hope you can give me some answers. I have a LYDIA BLAKESLEE who married JARED THOMPSON 12 Oct.1786 in North Haven, New Haven ,Conn They had 6 children from1787-1794. One, Malinda Lorinda Thompson went on to become my ancester. If you want more info just e-mail me. I would like to find out more about this Lady. thanks nan

http://www.go.ednet.ns.ca/~neil/new-englander.htm Many were from CT -- perhaps some from Middx. County. Some of you may not know of the uprisings in St. John and the Chignecto Isthmus (it links NS to NB) by Patriot sympathizers from New England. My Yorkshire planters, newly arrived in 1774, must have got caught in the middle of that one. Yrs aye, Warren Wetmore

Hi Lois Thank you so very much for all that information. (and to all the other's too) I have a much better understanding of the Federalist papers and party. Thanks Tracy

I've never seen CN as an abbreviation, but it makes sense. I do remember seeing license plates back in the Fifties where the state was abbreviated as CT, just as it is now. FWIW, the New York Times uses the old abbreviations for states: Conn., in this case. Best, Warren Wetmore ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Where was Killingsworth CN? | I have seen both Killingworth and Clinton referred to as CN, which was long | before the post office started the two character abreviations. CN would be | Connecticut. | | Regards, | Janece | [email protected] | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | Visit the Godfrey Memorial Library Website | http://www.godfrey.org | Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

I have seen both Killingworth and Clinton referred to as CN, which was long before the post office started the two character abreviations. CN would be Connecticut. Regards, Janece [email protected]

Killingsworth....was a neighbor town to Clinton...CT...Conn...do u mean this town...CN...refers to what state...? My ancesters were from Killingsworth..foundning fathers (Redfields).... i have no idea why he traveled...but...many did...marriages were often arranged by the church...etc...hope this helps...Annie Richardson...

In a message dated 2/1/02 6:20:19 AM, [email protected] writes: << Where was Killingsworth? And can anyone explain why a man from NW CN would travel back fhere to marry and then end up in central CN a year later? >> Killingworth (note spelling) is only about 15 miles or so from Middletown, a short trip down the CT River. It is on Rt 81 now, in Middlesex Co). The usual explanation for people traveling great distances (about 75 miles these days) to marry is that they were from that area originally, had relatives there, or met the bride through her relatives in Caanan. You'd need to investigate the families of both to see what the most likely explanation is in this case. The early CT settlers eventually spread out from the first settlements along the coast and along the rivers to farther areas in order to find more land, better land, etc. Check the history of Caanan for clues to the origin of its settlers. Dona Ritchie

> Even more Middlesex County folks who went to Hartford to get married. > (If you have Mass or NY ancestors who you suspect might be in this category > as well, and believe me, there are a lot of them), do a search for Mass, NY, > and New York over on Jane's website where all of this data ends up). I'll be getting the D-F surnames coded and on the website this weekend. Jane Records from CT, MA, & MI + family lines: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Cook Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xY.2ADI/399 Message Board Post: Interested in lineage of John Edwin Cook, a henchman of abolitionist John Brown. Cook was hanged in Charleston (West) Virginia 1859, and is said to have been born in Haddam ca 1830: Was he related to the Cook's of Wallingford, Ct?

Even more Middlesex County folks who went to Hartford to get married. (If you have Mass or NY ancestors who you suspect might be in this category as well, and believe me, there are a lot of them), do a search for Mass, NY, and New York over on Jane's website where all of this data ends up). Coralynn DOW DOWE Ezra A, of Hartford, m Jane E BELDEN of Middletown, Apr 5, 1849, by Rev Robert Turnbull DOWD Martha W, of Saybrook, m S Dwight BOWERS of Brooklyn, N.Y., Nov 18, 1852, by Rev William T Eustis of New Haven EDY Russell, of Middletown, m Mary Ann ADAMS, Dec 26, 1831, by Rev Gustavus F Davis EGER Max, of Cromwell. m Rosina MANN of Hartford, Apr 6, 1854, by Rev Charles R Fisher ELY, ELEY Theodore, of Haddam, m Amanda LEWIS of Wolcott, Oct 20, 1834, by Rev H Stanwood ETHERIDGE Frances R, of Hartford, m John B BOWERS of Middletown, Sept 8, 1849, by Rev Robert Turnbull EVARTS, EVERTS Emily M, of Hartford, m Oliver F GROVER of Middletown, Feb 27, 1854, by Rev Warren G Jones FAIRCHILD Lucy, m Joseph RICHARDS of Haddam, July 9, 1826, by Rev John Bisbe FENTON Amanda M, of Hartford, m Elisha G ELY of Portland, Jan 17, 1852, by Rev M Hill FIELD Mary H, of Hartford, m William A HARRINGTON of Middletown, June 10, 1842, by Rev Edmund Turney FONTAIN Maria, m John HUTCHINGS of Middletown, Oct 20, 1850, by Rev J N Murdock FOURNESS Elisabeth, of Hartford, m William PERRY of Portland, Nov 21, 1854, by Rec Charles R Fisher FREEMAN Lewis H, of Greenfield, Mass., m Mary BOARDMAN of Middletown, Sept 14, 1843, by J W C Pennington GABRIEL Charles, of Suffield, m Mary DICKINSON of Middletown, Mar 7, 1841, by Rev John Morse GATFIELD James, of New York, m Lucy STOCKING of Middletown, July 4, 1840, by Rev Joseph Law GETSTON Martha H, of Coventry, m Otis E BUCKMINISTER of Middletown, Dec 1, 1852, by Rev Charles R Fisher GILBERT, GILBERTT, GILBERD, GILLBERTT, GILLBARTT, GILLBERD Eliza, of Middletown, m Amos CROSS of Griswold, Sept 6, 1832, by Rev Gustavus F Davis William I, of Middletown, m Nancy BARBER of Hartford, Nov 29, 1827, by Rev Barnas Sears GOFF Timothy D, of Chatham, m Emeline N COOK of Hartford, Mar 4, 1838, by Rev Henry Jackson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kingman, Latimer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xY.2ADI/398 Message Board Post: My ancestor Mitchell Kingman b Canaan, Litchfield, CN m Keturah Latimer, Killingsworth CN in Killingsworth in 1770. Their first child was b in Wethersfield, Hartford, CN. Where was Killingsworth? And can anyone explain why a man from NW CN would travel back fhere to marry and then end up in central CN a year later?

Looking for Lucy_____, m. Samuel Hubbell circ. 1800. They lived around Oxford but there is no record of her in any of the towns around there. She m. 2nd Lyman Mansfield from Middletown. Who was she?? Saundra [email protected]

I found the same sort of community migration when I visited New Durham, NY while on the way to a conference in Saratoga Springs. I asked if it was settled by folks from Durham, CT and was told that it was, several families from Durham moved there together. Carol Boggs

> It's interesting about William Lord being in Hamilton, Madison Co., NY, from > about 1810 onward. That is where my Ancestor Roswell Rogers was listed in > the 1830 US Census. He and his family were also from East Haddam. (They > lost their E. H. property around 1822, after postponing foreclosure on > secured mortgages dating back to the War of 1812 era.) Families often > traveled to where they already knew people. I would assume other East Haddam > folk were there too. William LORD was the only one identified with a Middlesex Co. origin, but there were lots of other names without locations. They can be found at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/ Early Settlers of Madison Co. If anyone spots more Middlesex Wanderers, let me know. I'm still gathering them for a page on the website. Jane

Jane, It's interesting about William Lord being in Hamilton, Madison Co., NY, from about 1810 onward. That is where my Ancestor Roswell Rogers was listed in the 1830 US Census. He and his family were also from East Haddam. (They lost their E. H. property around 1822, after postponing foreclosure on secured mortgages dating back to the War of 1812 era.) Families often traveled to where they already knew people. I would assume other East Haddam folk were there too. - Jim Rogers

Hi Alan Thanks so much for your information. Tracy

Just came across this while searching for ancestors in Hamilton, Madison Co., NY: Listed among the early setters from about 1810 is William LORD, East Haddam, CT. Jane list mom http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jdevlin/

Jefferson and Madison were Democratic Republicans -- the archrivals of the Federalists. John Adams was the last Federalist president. The D-Rs were in favor of local rule and against a strong central govt -- they believed it would lead to tyranny. HTH, Warren Wetmore ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 4:38 PM Subject: Re: [CTMID] Federalist Party | Hi | The Federalist party was founded after the revolution, and was a proponent of | a federal as opposed to Confederated form of Government. The Federal | principle was a geographical distribution of Power with a very strong central | government, as opposed to the Confederation, which was in power at the time | and had a very weak central goverment, with the Stsates retain the greater | powers of authority/regulation. Your local library should have a copy of the | Federalist Papers, which were a series of articles published in various | colonial Newspapers to promote the Federalst aims. James Madison, Thomas | Jeffferson was a major mover in the party, and largely through his efforts, | the Constitutional conventions were convened, and the Constitution ratified. | If you go to Google search engine, and request Federalist, it will provide | you with a very nice site that discusses the Federalist, anti-Federalist | thinking. | Alan | | | ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== | Visit the Middlesex County GenWeb site | http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctmiddle/midlsxco.htm | | ============================== | To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: | http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 | |

Hi The Federalist party was founded after the revolution, and was a proponent of a federal as opposed to Confederated form of Government. The Federal principle was a geographical distribution of Power with a very strong central government, as opposed to the Confederation, which was in power at the time and had a very weak central goverment, with the Stsates retain the greater powers of authority/regulation. Your local library should have a copy of the Federalist Papers, which were a series of articles published in various colonial Newspapers to promote the Federalst aims. James Madison, Thomas Jeffferson was a major mover in the party, and largely through his efforts, the Constitutional conventions were convened, and the Constitution ratified. If you go to Google search engine, and request Federalist, it will provide you with a very nice site that discusses the Federalist, anti-Federalist thinking. Alan

Tracy, My guess would be neither. In general, federalists are those who want the central (federal) government to have more power, more control over the group of states, rather than allowing the individual states to have more control over what goes on within their own borders. By 1787, the Revolutionary War was over, so loyalty to Britain was no longer an issue. At this time the arguments concerned the structure and philosophy of the government that would prevail in the new nation, the USA. The 13 former colonies wanted to avoid the tyrannical situation they had just fought so hard to be rid of. That is why Rhode Island held out, and was the last to ratify the new constitution -- there was great support for independence as individual states. A federation is an association of states that are controlled by a central government, but retain some of their individual rights, as opposed to a democracy or a republic, which give more powers to the citizens and/or the individual states, yet still allow for some degree of centralization, such as the power to organize the military, promote free trade among the states, maintain a highway system, etc. When the delegates adjourned the Constitutional Convention, people clamored to know what kind of government had been decided on. It has been reported that Ben Franklin said, "You have a republic, if you can keep it." It is a struggle that has continued to this day. The Civil War was primarily over states' rights, although slavery was the precipitating issue. Some people feel that the federal government has taken over more and more of what should be the states' rights and responsibilities, such as the Supreme Court ruling certain laws unconstitutional at the state level, or Congress passing laws that negate some state laws, or an agency in Washington telling states how and what to teach its students, for example. While we don't have a Federalist Party today, the Democratic Party in general places more emphasis on the control of centralized government, while the Republic Party emphasizes the rights and responsibilities of individual states and persons. Both parties obviously mean well, and probably have the same ultimate objective -- the good of the nation-- but the Democrats tend to see strong central control as a necessity to "fix" our problems (more money to Washington for various federal programs), while Republicans see the solution in personal initiative (tax cuts or lower taxes to give working people the opportunity to invest, start new businesses, pay to educate their kids, and otherwise get ahead in life). The question is, does the system as envisioned in 1787 still work for the huge nation we have become today? Maybe others can add to or clarify what I've said . . . Lois -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:28 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [CTMID] Federalist Party Hello I am looking for information on the Federalist Party founded in 1787. Was it a political party for the colonists pro-revolution or a political party that wanted to remain loyal to England? Thanks Tracy ==== CTMIDDLE Mailing List ==== Visit the Godfrey Memorial Library Website http://www.godfrey.org Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237