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    1. [CTMIDDLE] End of an Era - Rootsweb Mailing List's Last Day (Connecticut)
    2. W David Samuelsen
    3. Today marks the last day Rootsweb mailing lists working. Tomorrow, the Rootsweb mailing lists are no more. All messages that had been posted here are saved and archived, will continue to be accessed and read. Subscription, no more Postings, no more Replies, no more BUT ! Successor lists are here, but at another place The successor list for this list is: https://genconnecticut.groups.io/g/main County lists had been formed within this. See under "Subgroups" for specific county lists. Go to the site and "join this group". This is easy step. David Samuelsen, subscriber

    03/01/2020 07:45:06
    1. [CTMIDDLE] New Connecticut Mailing List
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Good news! There has been a group setup for the whole state of Connecticut. Here is the link>> https://groups.io/g/GenConnecticut Hope this helps. Happy Hunting! Susan -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/17/2020 11:33:03
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Leave a Farewell Message
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Leave a Farewell Message*_/ This post was by Judith to MODAVIES: suggestion: People may want to post a "farewell" message on the mailing list before it goes to archive, and in this message include an email you plan to keep for the foreseeable future. A separate email could be set up expressly for this purpose if it is more convenient/secure. (You'll want web-based, not provider-based.) That way, if someone peruses the archive & finds a possible connection, they would have a way to get in touch with you privately. I have been on a couple of lists that went archival at some point, and I really wish I had done that, as our old email was provider-based and - once that provider went defunct, people looking through the defunct mailing list had no way to contact me (nor I them) It's easier to track people down these days, but I'd still suggest this. I think this to be an excellent idea, wish I thought it. I would like to expand to suggest that a post to include Your name, best address to reach you (one that might be dedicated to your genealogy research), a list surname(s) of interest, a list to places of interest (country, region, state, county), subject of interest, snail mail address (at your own risk), telephone number (again at your own risk), web address if you have a website, where you “moved.” Please keep in mind these to be suggestions and you should only provide what you would be comfortable for “ibots” to find. Might not want to wait to last minute. This would give system to process information and have it posted. With this in mind, please do not be concerned when you see my post to the nearly 300 (took inventory; final count was 298 – just sharing) mailing lists I admin. I will be leaving my time capsule to the list(s) in the coming days. But I will be here til Roots Web turn off the lights and lock the door. Let me take a few lines to acknowledge all the “thank-you” I have received. I started with a few surnames and expanded to counties more recently. But you are all “welcomed.” I try serve with the volunteer spirit and a happy heart. Please overlook my frustration that may boil to the top in the coming days. Susan

    01/13/2020 12:31:22
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Ramblings from the Backseat
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Ramblings from the Backseat*_/ Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. I have already announced that as of March 2^nd , when Roots Web ceases to function as a mailing list that I will be hanging up my administrator's hat. These are my observations and suggestions going forward. First and foremost, someone needs to step-up to be new administrator, chairman, leader, whatever title you like. Next a decision should be made whether to remain a mailing list or a bulletin board. Of course, what is to say both could be established. I personally have not read, but Dick Eastman has endorsed Group.io as a venue for mailing list. From what little time I have had, I would lean toward Group.io to maintain mailing list format. I have no experience with bulletin boards therefore I have no input. I am hearing Facebook, but I have issues with privacy and whether someone would make the site secure enough. I am sure there are other venues for bulletin board format. Can not stop someone setting up FB account, just do not bother to invite me. Also, Ancestry has an established bulletin board area, it is functioning. Due to the activity on most state lists, my next suggestion would be that county mailing lists consolidate to form one state list. When activity is established divide into regions. Too much activity then establish a county list (start at the top and drill down). Under the blanket of a state list posting could use subject line to keep the identity of the county ie; SUBJECT: [AL-SUMTER] Looking for … Surname lists are a horse of a different color. Suggestion here would be to make use of subject line. Kinda like reading a newspaper, the subject line is like a headline of a newspaper. Personally I pay attention to an informative subject line. A worry in the back of my mind is with the “mass exodus” from Roots Web to other venue on whether that venue can handle the new activity or whether “we” will cause that venue to crash and burn. Here's hoping that is a needless concern. Once the list is established … there needs to be centralized place where a directory or a place of registration that searching community would go to find the list. Since I am US based, USGenWeb comes to mind. This maybe more difficult step. USGenWeb sites are individually maintained. Hearing rumblings that this may be solved in the near future. Last concern (for the moment) would be “being nice and playing well with others.” Personally, have not experienced this problem. Frustration, maybe. Especially when Roots Web fell apart and returned “fixed” with continuing problems. For example, I still have to push through a post from someone using AOL. AOL users … this is why your post takes a little longer to be seen. Sorry, I do my best with the tools I have to work with. Patience is probably going to be the keyword in days to come. Patience with the leaders that will step forward. They are going to be putting a lot on their plates and will need support in establishing a new venue and getting it working, establishing their rules, etc. Congratulation to those lists that have found a “new home.” From what I see you are in good hands! Will try to make this last posting to those newly adopted lists. (Posting to all lists today.) At this point in time, Family Trees, Message Boards, Web Sites, & Wiki at Roots Web are not effected to my knowledge. Of course, Message Boards are already part of Ancestry. So open conversation. Work on finding a volunteer to lead the list forward. I'm gonna stop rambling for the moment. I'm here till they turn off the lights and lock the door. Susan

    01/12/2020 01:16:25
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. mary32818
    3. F.A.G. now has ads and a new host server tied to Ancestry. -------- Original message -------- From: Vital Records Admin <Admin@MA-VitalRecords.org> Date: 01/11/2020 7:27 PM (GMT-05:00) To: "The CTMIDDLE Mailing List is an e-mail list for genealogical research of Middlesex County Connecticut. We are interested in any time period and all surnames pertaining to this geographic area." <ctmiddle@rootsweb.com> Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***What about Find-A-Grave?John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records ProjectIn memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.orgFrom: mary32818 via CTMIDDLESent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 14:53To: The CTMIDDLE Mailing List is an e-mail list for genealogical research of Middlesex County Connecticut. We are interested in any time period and all surnames pertaining to this geographic area.Cc: mary32818Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web*** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***Genealogy for $$$$$$. Without ability to edit false data. That is my experience with Ancestry. Census and other gov records, lists and soon Find a Grave. Shameful!!    -------- Original message --------From: Susan Penn Groover <glazier.historian@gmx.us> Date: 01/10/2020  9:45 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com, CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com, CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com, CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com, DEKENT@rootsweb.com, GLASIER@rootsweb.com, NYONONDA@rootsweb.com, NYULSTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***/_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this toanswer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.”Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conceptionof Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others)BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it isnow known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing listof many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were freeto its users/subscribers.MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc.with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free.I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to sufferhealth issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host wasunable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a yearplus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithfulsubscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey theirpassages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internethave occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable toparticipate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that somefolks have lost connection with Roots Web,DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Listsfunctionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer beable to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally,administration tools will no longer be available to list administratorsand mailing lists will be put into an archival state.BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information asto where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added.Hope this helps.Susan Penn Groover_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/12/2020 06:32:18
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. W David Samuelsen
    3. It was not that being main reason. The reason was the inept programmers shutting down lists for long periods since Randy Winch's death. Randy was a wizard when it come to making excellent Mailman programming codes. David Samuelsen On 1/11/2020 8:57 PM, Vital Records Admin wrote: > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > I understand you completely. That’s what I said about RW when Ancestry became their sponsor. I’m surprised it has stayed free for so long. Lots of us left RW because there was a clause that said everything we put up on RW/Ancestry would become the property of Ancestry. We weren’t waiting to test that out. That’s why I pulled my vital records off of freepages. WorldConnect is screwed up. I have twice sent messages requesting the link to the advanced search page and no reply. > > John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project > In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 –http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org

    01/11/2020 10:16:16
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. W David Samuelsen
    3. They improved findagrave considerably. I was one of testers of new features before release to public. Much better than before. Different programmer teams for different parts of Ancestry. David Samuelsen On 1/11/2020 8:48 PM, Susan Penn Groover wrote: > > John, > > Just speculation.  Ancestry owns Find-A-Grave.  Since they have > wrecked Roots Web, I personally look for Find-A-Grave to be next. > Please forgive my sarcastic remarks, but what's the old saying ...  > nothing in life is free. > > Susan

    01/11/2020 10:12:30
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Vital Records Admin
    3. I understand you completely. That’s what I said about RW when Ancestry became their sponsor. I’m surprised it has stayed free for so long. Lots of us left RW because there was a clause that said everything we put up on RW/Ancestry would become the property of Ancestry. We weren’t waiting to test that out. That’s why I pulled my vital records off of freepages. WorldConnect is screwed up. I have twice sent messages requesting the link to the advanced search page and no reply. John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org From: Susan Penn Groover Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 19:49 To: Vital Records Admin; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** John, Just speculation.  Ancestry owns Find-A-Grave.  Since they have wrecked Roots Web, I personally look for Find-A-Grave to be next. Please forgive my sarcastic remarks, but what's the old saying ...  nothing in life is free. Susan On 2020-01-11 7:27 PM, Vital Records Admin wrote: > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > What about Find-A-Grave? > > John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project > In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org > > From: mary32818 via CTMIDDLE > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 14:53 > To: The CTMIDDLE Mailing List is an e-mail list for genealogical research of Middlesex County Connecticut. We are interested in any time period and all surnames pertaining to this geographic area. > Cc: mary32818 > Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > Genealogy for $$$$$$. Without ability to edit false data. That is my experience with Ancestry. Census and other gov records, lists and soon Find a Grave. Shameful!! > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Susan Penn Groover <glazier.historian@gmx.us> > Date: 01/10/2020 9:45 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com, CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com, CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com, CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com, DEKENT@rootsweb.com, GLASIER@rootsweb.com, NYONONDA@rootsweb.com, NYULSTER@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***/_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this toanswer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.”Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conceptionof Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others)BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it isnow known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing listof many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were freeto its users/subscribers.MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc.with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free.I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to sufferhealth issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host wasunable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a yearplus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithfulsubscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey theirpassages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internethave occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable toparticipate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that somefolks have lost connection with Roots Web,DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Listsfunctionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer beable to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally,administration tools will no longer be available to list administratorsand mailing lists will be put into an archival state.BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information asto where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added.Hope this helps.Susan Penn Groover_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. _______________________________________________ Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 08:57:09
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. John, Just speculation.  Ancestry owns Find-A-Grave.  Since they have wrecked Roots Web, I personally look for Find-A-Grave to be next. Please forgive my sarcastic remarks, but what's the old saying ...  nothing in life is free. Susan On 2020-01-11 7:27 PM, Vital Records Admin wrote: > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > What about Find-A-Grave? > > John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project > In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org > > From: mary32818 via CTMIDDLE > Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 14:53 > To: The CTMIDDLE Mailing List is an e-mail list for genealogical research of Middlesex County Connecticut. We are interested in any time period and all surnames pertaining to this geographic area. > Cc: mary32818 > Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > Genealogy for $$$$$$. Without ability to edit false data. That is my experience with Ancestry. Census and other gov records, lists and soon Find a Grave. Shameful!! > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Susan Penn Groover <glazier.historian@gmx.us> > Date: 01/10/2020 9:45 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com, CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com, CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com, CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com, DEKENT@rootsweb.com, GLASIER@rootsweb.com, NYONONDA@rootsweb.com, NYULSTER@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***/_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this toanswer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.”Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conceptionof Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others)BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it isnow known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing listof many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were freeto its users/subscribers.MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc.with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free.I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to sufferhealth issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host wasunable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a yearplus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithfulsubscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey theirpassages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internethave occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable toparticipate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that somefolks have lost connection with Roots Web,DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Listsfunctionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer beable to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally,administration tools will no longer be available to list administratorsand mailing lists will be put into an archival state.BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information asto where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added.Hope this helps.Susan Penn Groover_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/11/2020 08:48:39
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: [CTFAIRFI] GenConnecticut at Groups.io
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Absolutely wonderful!  Looks like four mailing lists just found a new home! Oh, I'm doing my happy dance!  Husband likes I have lost it, but he's been wanting to commit we for years... Susan On 2020-01-11 7:35 PM, W David Samuelsen wrote: > *** Fairfield County Connecticut [CTFAIRFI] Mailing List *** > > https://groups.io/g/GenConnecticut > > scroll down to blue tag "Join this Group" > > Just like that. > > However,  in order to post, your first post to the new list, I must > approve, thereafter no more approvals required. > > You can use hashtags as appropriate if desired. They are listed for > each of Connecticut's 8 counties. > > David Samuelsen > > _______________________________________________ > Fairfield County Connecticut [CTFAIRFI] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] > https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Fairfield_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/cofairfield/ > > [RW Message Board] > https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.fairfield/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctfairfi@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal > RootsWeb community -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/11/2020 08:39:59
    1. [CTMIDDLE] GenConnecticut at Groups.io
    2. W David Samuelsen
    3. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails.  Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state.  Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on RootsWeb In light of this... new list set up to cover entire state. https://groups.io/g/GenConnecticut scroll down to blue tag "Join this Group" Just like that. However,  in order to post, your first post to the new list, I must approve, thereafter no more approvals required. You can use hashtags as appropriate if desired. They are listed for each of Connecticut's 8 counties. David Samuelsen

    01/11/2020 05:59:42
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Vital Records Admin
    3. What about Find-A-Grave? John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org From: mary32818 via CTMIDDLE Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 14:53 To: The CTMIDDLE Mailing List is an e-mail list for genealogical research of Middlesex County Connecticut. We are interested in any time period and all surnames pertaining to this geographic area. Cc: mary32818 Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** Genealogy for $$$$$$. Without ability to edit false data. That is my experience with Ancestry. Census and other gov records, lists and soon Find a Grave. Shameful!! -------- Original message -------- From: Susan Penn Groover <glazier.historian@gmx.us> Date: 01/10/2020 9:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com, CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com, CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com, CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com, DEKENT@rootsweb.com, GLASIER@rootsweb.com, NYONONDA@rootsweb.com, NYULSTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***/_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this toanswer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.”Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conceptionof Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others)BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it isnow known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing listof many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were freeto its users/subscribers.MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc.with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free.I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to sufferhealth issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host wasunable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a yearplus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithfulsubscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey theirpassages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internethave occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable toparticipate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that somefolks have lost connection with Roots Web,DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Listsfunctionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer beable to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally,administration tools will no longer be available to list administratorsand mailing lists will be put into an archival state.BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information asto where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added.Hope this helps.Susan Penn Groover_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 05:27:36
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. mary32818
    3. Genealogy for $$$$$$. Without ability to edit false data. That is my experience with Ancestry. Census and other gov records, lists and soon Find a Grave. Shameful!! -------- Original message -------- From: Susan Penn Groover <glazier.historian@gmx.us> Date: 01/10/2020 9:45 PM (GMT-05:00) To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com, CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com, CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com, CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com, DEKENT@rootsweb.com, GLASIER@rootsweb.com, NYONONDA@rootsweb.com, NYULSTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List ***/_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this toanswer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.”Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conceptionof Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others)BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it isnow known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing listof many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were freeto its users/subscribers.MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc.with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free.I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to sufferhealth issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host wasunable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a yearplus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithfulsubscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey theirpassages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internethave occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable toparticipate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that somefolks have lost connection with Roots Web,DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Listsfunctionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer beable to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally,administration tools will no longer be available to list administratorsand mailing lists will be put into an archival state.BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information asto where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added.Hope this helps.Susan Penn Groover_______________________________________________Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS:[WIKI]  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut[FamilySearch.org Research WIKI]  https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy[CTGenWeb]  http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/[RW Message Board]  https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx_______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.comPrivacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY  Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blogRootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 03:45:23
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Vital Records Admin
    3. That poses a question in itself. If the records are to become read only, will the owners be able to modify them? Will new ones be able to be created? John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org From: Susan Penn Groover Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 06:30 To: CL38911@cox.net; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** Coralynn Brown, Your records will remain on Roots Web.  Roots Web will become "read only" on March 2nd.  Yes, just the mailing list function is going away, as I understand.  The bigger question for me is how long? Susan Groover On 2020-01-11 9:07 AM, CL38911@cox.net wrote: > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > March 2 ALL the Rootsweb (freepages.rootsweb) are going away? is that correct? > IF SOMEONE used Rootsweb as a platform for vital records, like I did, are these going away too, or is it just the mailing lists?? > Some of us are posting on Facebook Groups, which hopefully won't be trashed at some future date! > There's a Group for a whole raft of surnames & locations as well. > MY QUESTION: do I have to move all the vital records I transcribed years ago somewhere other than Rootsweb, b/c, if so, I need to do it NOW. > > Coralynn Brown >> On January 10, 2020 at 10:15 PM Vital Records Admin <Admin@MA-VitalRecords.org> wrote: >> >> >> *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** >> >> I remember when our mailing lists were extremely lively. Sometimes too much so. Then there was an occasion when a number of people were suspended because of the way they talked to others in ways that weren’t about genealogy. All of a sudden, the activity on the lists dropped to a tiny fraction of what it had been. This is mostly Massachusetts related lists, but there were others. Since that time the activity never recovered. Then there’s David McCann (sp?). His definition of what is and isn’t allowable is so strict that no one can say anything. He wouldn’t let me post because I accept donations on the MA Vital Records Project site. I used to be the assistant state coordinator for MA on GenWeb, county coordinator for Essex county, town coordinator for Ipswich and Bradford and other things. Now I just try to work on my vital records site I have some CT records but no time to do them. My records have to be in a particular format so that I can put them online. I may not have as big a following as many others, but I’m satisfied. >> >> John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project >> In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org >> >> From: Susan Penn Groover >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 18:56 >> To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com; CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com; CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com; DEKENT@rootsweb.com; GLASIER@rootsweb.com; NYONONDA@rootsweb.com; NYULSTER@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web >> >> *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** >> >> /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ >> >> >> Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to >> answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” >> >> >> Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception >> of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) >> >> >> BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is >> now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list >> of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free >> to its users/subscribers. >> >> >> MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. >> with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. >> >> >> I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer >> health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was >> unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year >> plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful >> subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their >> passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet >> have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to >> participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some >> folks have lost connection with Roots Web, >> >> >> DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists >> functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be >> able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, >> administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators >> and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. >> >> >> BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as >> to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> Susan Penn Groover >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: >> >> [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut >> >> [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy >> >> [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ >> >> [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: >> >> [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut >> >> [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy >> >> [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ >> >> [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living. _______________________________________________ Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 09:35:07
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Vital Records Admin
    3. Hi, Coralynn. Did you get my e-mail the other day? I asked about the Genealogical Gleaners Award Page. There seem to be several broken links. One of those is for my MA Vital Records Project. You still have the link pointing to freepages. The correct address has been http://ma-vitalrecords.org since 2007. As my site never exchanges information with my visitors I do not need https protocol. I may investigate what needs to be done at some time in the future. But, with the 100’s of 1000’s of pages that I have, the task might take me years. John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org From: cl38911@cox.net Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 06:23 To: The CTMIDDLE Mailing List is an e-mail list for genealogical research of Middlesex County Connecticut. We are interested in any time period and all surnames pertaining to this geographic area.; Vital Records Admin Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** March 2 ALL the Rootsweb (freepages.rootsweb) are going away? is that correct? IF SOMEONE used Rootsweb as a platform for vital records, like I did, are these going away too, or is it just the mailing lists?? Some of us are posting on Facebook Groups, which hopefully won't be trashed at some future date! There's a Group for a whole raft of surnames & locations as well. MY QUESTION: do I have to move all the vital records I transcribed years ago somewhere other than Rootsweb, b/c, if so, I need to do it NOW. Coralynn Brown > On January 10, 2020 at 10:15 PM Vital Records Admin <Admin@MA-VitalRecords.org> wrote: > > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > I remember when our mailing lists were extremely lively. Sometimes too much so. Then there was an occasion when a number of people were suspended because of the way they talked to others in ways that weren’t about genealogy. All of a sudden, the activity on the lists dropped to a tiny fraction of what it had been. This is mostly Massachusetts related lists, but there were others. Since that time the activity never recovered. Then there’s David McCann (sp?). His definition of what is and isn’t allowable is so strict that no one can say anything. He wouldn’t let me post because I accept donations on the MA Vital Records Project site. I used to be the assistant state coordinator for MA on GenWeb, county coordinator for Essex county, town coordinator for Ipswich and Bradford and other things. Now I just try to work on my vital records site I have some CT records but no time to do them. My records have to be in a particular format so that I can put them online. I may not have as big a following as many others, but I’m satisfied. > > John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project > In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org > > From: Susan Penn Groover > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 18:56 > To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com; CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com; CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com; DEKENT@rootsweb.com; GLASIER@rootsweb.com; NYONONDA@rootsweb.com; NYULSTER@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ > > > Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to > answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” > > > Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception > of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) > > > BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is > now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list > of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free > to its users/subscribers. > > > MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. > with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. > > > I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer > health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was > unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year > plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful > subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their > passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet > have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to > participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some > folks have lost connection with Roots Web, > > > DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists > functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be > able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, > administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators > and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. > > > BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as > to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. > > Hope this helps. > > > Susan Penn Groover > > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 09:33:06
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Unsubscribing from Mailing List(s)*_/ With the upcoming changes to Roots Web, some have decided to “leave early.” Which I personally understand. Since I am busy, I would like to ask for your help. Should you make the decision to close your membership to list please do the following: Insert or substitute listname before dash. To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to listname-request@rootsweb.com <mailto:wvlogan-request@rootsweb.com> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. OR A link is provided at the bottom of individual and digests. Help in this area will be completely appreciated and will be considered an act of kindness.

    01/11/2020 09:16:18
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. Coralynn Brown, Your records will remain on Roots Web.  Roots Web will become "read only" on March 2nd.  Yes, just the mailing list function is going away, as I understand.  The bigger question for me is how long? Susan Groover On 2020-01-11 9:07 AM, CL38911@cox.net wrote: > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > March 2 ALL the Rootsweb (freepages.rootsweb) are going away? is that correct? > IF SOMEONE used Rootsweb as a platform for vital records, like I did, are these going away too, or is it just the mailing lists?? > Some of us are posting on Facebook Groups, which hopefully won't be trashed at some future date! > There's a Group for a whole raft of surnames & locations as well. > MY QUESTION: do I have to move all the vital records I transcribed years ago somewhere other than Rootsweb, b/c, if so, I need to do it NOW. > > Coralynn Brown >> On January 10, 2020 at 10:15 PM Vital Records Admin <Admin@MA-VitalRecords.org> wrote: >> >> >> *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** >> >> I remember when our mailing lists were extremely lively. Sometimes too much so. Then there was an occasion when a number of people were suspended because of the way they talked to others in ways that weren’t about genealogy. All of a sudden, the activity on the lists dropped to a tiny fraction of what it had been. This is mostly Massachusetts related lists, but there were others. Since that time the activity never recovered. Then there’s David McCann (sp?). His definition of what is and isn’t allowable is so strict that no one can say anything. He wouldn’t let me post because I accept donations on the MA Vital Records Project site. I used to be the assistant state coordinator for MA on GenWeb, county coordinator for Essex county, town coordinator for Ipswich and Bradford and other things. Now I just try to work on my vital records site I have some CT records but no time to do them. My records have to be in a particular format so that I can put them online. I may not have as big a following as many others, but I’m satisfied. >> >> John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project >> In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org >> >> From: Susan Penn Groover >> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 18:56 >> To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com; CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com; CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com; DEKENT@rootsweb.com; GLASIER@rootsweb.com; NYONONDA@rootsweb.com; NYULSTER@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web >> >> *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** >> >> /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ >> >> >> Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to >> answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” >> >> >> Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception >> of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) >> >> >> BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is >> now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list >> of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free >> to its users/subscribers. >> >> >> MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. >> with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. >> >> >> I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer >> health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was >> unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year >> plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful >> subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their >> passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet >> have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to >> participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some >> folks have lost connection with Roots Web, >> >> >> DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists >> functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be >> able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, >> administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators >> and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. >> >> >> BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as >> to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> Susan Penn Groover >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: >> >> [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut >> >> [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy >> >> [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ >> >> [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: >> >> [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut >> >> [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy >> >> [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ >> >> [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx >> _______________________________________________ >> Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref >> Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com >> Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 >> Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog >> RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community -- --- Genealogy: Where you confuse the dead and irritate the living.

    01/11/2020 07:29:45
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. March 2 ALL the Rootsweb (freepages.rootsweb) are going away? is that correct? IF SOMEONE used Rootsweb as a platform for vital records, like I did, are these going away too, or is it just the mailing lists?? Some of us are posting on Facebook Groups, which hopefully won't be trashed at some future date! There's a Group for a whole raft of surnames & locations as well. MY QUESTION: do I have to move all the vital records I transcribed years ago somewhere other than Rootsweb, b/c, if so, I need to do it NOW. Coralynn Brown > On January 10, 2020 at 10:15 PM Vital Records Admin <Admin@MA-VitalRecords.org> wrote: > > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > I remember when our mailing lists were extremely lively. Sometimes too much so. Then there was an occasion when a number of people were suspended because of the way they talked to others in ways that weren’t about genealogy. All of a sudden, the activity on the lists dropped to a tiny fraction of what it had been. This is mostly Massachusetts related lists, but there were others. Since that time the activity never recovered. Then there’s David McCann (sp?). His definition of what is and isn’t allowable is so strict that no one can say anything. He wouldn’t let me post because I accept donations on the MA Vital Records Project site. I used to be the assistant state coordinator for MA on GenWeb, county coordinator for Essex county, town coordinator for Ipswich and Bradford and other things. Now I just try to work on my vital records site I have some CT records but no time to do them. My records have to be in a particular format so that I can put them online. I may not have as big a following as many others, but I’m satisfied. > > John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project > In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org > > From: Susan Penn Groover > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 18:56 > To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com; CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com; CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com; DEKENT@rootsweb.com; GLASIER@rootsweb.com; NYONONDA@rootsweb.com; NYULSTER@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web > > *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** > > /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ > > > Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to > answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” > > > Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception > of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) > > > BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is > now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list > of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free > to its users/subscribers. > > > MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. > with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. > > > I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer > health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was > unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year > plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful > subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their > passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet > have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to > participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some > folks have lost connection with Roots Web, > > > DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists > functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be > able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, > administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators > and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. > > > BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as > to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. > > Hope this helps. > > > Susan Penn Groover > > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: > > [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut > > [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy > > [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ > > [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/11/2020 07:07:42
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Re: Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Vital Records Admin
    3. I remember when our mailing lists were extremely lively. Sometimes too much so. Then there was an occasion when a number of people were suspended because of the way they talked to others in ways that weren’t about genealogy. All of a sudden, the activity on the lists dropped to a tiny fraction of what it had been. This is mostly Massachusetts related lists, but there were others. Since that time the activity never recovered. Then there’s David McCann (sp?). His definition of what is and isn’t allowable is so strict that no one can say anything. He wouldn’t let me post because I accept donations on the MA Vital Records Project site. I used to be the assistant state coordinator for MA on GenWeb, county coordinator for Essex county, town coordinator for Ipswich and Bradford and other things. Now I just try to work on my vital records site I have some CT records but no time to do them. My records have to be in a particular format so that I can put them online. I may not have as big a following as many others, but I’m satisfied. John Slaughter, Owner/Administrator, MA Vital Records Project In memory of our son, Brennan, 11/10/88-5/31/01 – http://Brennan.MA-VitalRecords.org From: Susan Penn Groover Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 18:56 To: CTFAIRFI@rootsweb.com; CTMIDDLE@rootsweb.com; CTNEWHAV@rootsweb.com; CTNEWLON@rootsweb.com; DEKENT@rootsweb.com; GLASIER@rootsweb.com; NYONONDA@rootsweb.com; NYULSTER@rootsweb.com Subject: [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web *** Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] Mailing List *** /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover _______________________________________________ Middlesex County Connecticut [CTMIDDLE] LINKS: [WIKI] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut [FamilySearch.org Research WIKI] https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Middlesex_County,_Connecticut_Genealogy [CTGenWeb] http://www.ctgenweb.org/county/comiddlesex/ [RW Message Board] https://www.ancestry.com/boards/localities.northam.usa.states.connecticut.counties.middlesex/mb.ashx _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/ctmiddle@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/10/2020 08:15:31
    1. [CTMIDDLE] Genealogy of Roots Web
    2. Susan Penn Groover
    3. /_*Genealogy of Roots Web*_/ Since most of us are genealogists or family historians, I write this to answer the primary questions I am receiving in “genealogy speak.” Mailing lists were scattered about the Internet prior to the conception of Roots Web (ie: AOL, Prodigy, Compuserve, and others) BIRTH: Sometime in 1996, Karen & Brian Leverich, conceived what it is now known as Roots Web. Roots Web grew to host uncountable mailing list of many subjects, surnames, places, etc. These mailing lists were free to its users/subscribers. MARRIAGE: June 2000. Roots Web was married (purchased by) Ancestry, Inc. with prenuptial agreement that mailing list services would remain free. I believe to be sometime in 2015, our beloved Roots Web began to suffer health issues. My speculation is outgrew its existence and its host was unable to keep up without a major and costly overhaul. After a year plus, Roots Web reopened its doors, but a lot of her faithful subscribers had lost interest or found other vehicles to convey their passages of information. During this time, other updates on the Internet have occurred. These changes have caused some subscribers unable to participate. Not qualified to expand on this other than to say that some folks have lost connection with Roots Web, DEATH: 2 March 2020. Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. Additionally, administration tools will no longer be available to list administrators and mailing lists will be put into an archival state. BURIAL: Archives will be available to peruse. No further information as to where, how long, or whether a price tag will be added. Hope this helps. Susan Penn Groover

    01/10/2020 07:45:49