Hi Jeanne, I noticed that in the recent Turney messages you wrote: <<Mary Odell's parents are John ODELL,B. 1577 and Joan BINGLEY. Joan's father is Thomas BINGLEY, b. 1556. John's parents are Richard ODELL b. 1540 and Elizabeth PERST. That's as far back as I get with Mary, so far. >> I wonder if you would please mention the source for Mary's parents, and others? This is a line that we are researching for a book in progress on Hubbell ancestors, and I was glad to see this discussion turn up. Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol Hubbell Boggs