Genealogy Message Searcher: http://images.gencircles.com/message/searcher It does a better job than either of their own search engines. Most especially, it does an AND of your search terms, not like Ancestry's almost useful OR of terms! Try it. I think that you will like it. -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://dav4is.8m.com 241 ancestral families, mostly 17th-19th century New England, total population: 57,956 Also: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ PS: apologies for the cross-postings, but I thought it important to get the news out as fast as possible -r.