Could you post the reply (if there is one) to the list? I, too, descend from this couple. Thanks, Linda Burkell > Do you have any informatin in your Hawley book on Ann Hawley, wife of > Philip Groves? See the following: thanks joan > > > Philip GROVES > d. 1676, Stratford, CT. > & Ann HAWLEY (SMITH)? > m. bef 1644