In a message dated 05/27/2001 6:55:18 AM Central Daylight Time, genwbffld@snet.net writes: > The BURR name is quiet famous in the town of Fairfield. > > Yes, they are, I have a book by Charles Burr Todd: In Olde Connecticut Published 1906 also: Author of "The True Aaron Burr. " "The History of Redding, Connecticut And I have seen the names through out the records, and webpages that are growing everyday. Good luck!

Can anyone tell me if the First Church of Fairfield and the First Congregational Church at Fairfield are one and the same? Patty Tiller ----- Original Message ----- From: <CTFAIRFI-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CTFAIRFI-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 12:00 AM Subject: CTFAIRFI-D Digest V01 #116

Just a note to say I'm working on these families and if anyone else is maybe we can share info. and get somewhere... Gary

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------FE1F7CC3DFD4D1F5AC2B0B6D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear List Members, Mr. Mallory very kindly sent me a post privately for which I was remiss in not thanking him. So I will thank him now. But the reason I am forwarding my reply and his original post is to show how secondary sources can trip you up, even if they are by noted and highly competent genealogists and to show a discrpency in reports concerning the Foote family. Kay Allen AG --------------FE1F7CC3DFD4D1F5AC2B0B6D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3B19099B.4A4E715D@pacbell.net> Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 08:43:23 -0700 From: Kay Allen AG <allenk@pacbell.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Allen John Mallory <allen.mallory@snet.net> Subject: Re: [CTFAIRFI] FOOTE Ancestors References: <cd.753dae5.28492cb3@aol.com> <3B182E00.D97CEB4B@pacbell.net> <01f301c0eb64$596dd100$f9ebfea9@ccqn801> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a problem here. I cited TAG 53:206 for Robert, because that is what TAG 53:206 said. If Robert Charles Anderson claims that 53:206 says Nathaniel, he is mistaken unless he can show that a later issue of TAG states that 53:206 has a typographical error of Robert, when it should be Nathaniel or that there was a typographical error which was not caught. Unfortunately, he chose to cite 53:206 which does not state what he says it states and does not state that 53:206 is a typographical error which is shown by CCCR1:463. When I wrote that post, I had the germane pages in front of me. Specifically this is what p. 206 says, "In addition to onomastic evidence which is striking, baptisms of the two eldest children have now been found at Shalford, Essex, St. James's, as follows: daughter Elizabeth on 14 Jan. 1617/8 [married 1638, first child b. 1639], and Robert, 5 March 1619/20 [aet. 25 in 1644]." So either George E. McCracken, late editor of TAG, made an error or Robert Charles Anderson made a mistake. In Mr. Anderson's case, there are two possibilities, he mistook Robert for Nathaniel or failed to point out the previously existing error. This well illustrates the problems in using secondary materials, even by highly competent and noted genealogists. Kay Allen AG Allen John Mallory wrote: > Your citation to TAG has been supplanted by the latest "The Great Migration" > vol. 2 (C-F) page 542, to wit: > Nathaniel Foote, bp. Shalford, Essex, 5 March 1619/20 [TAG 53:206] (aged "24 > years" on 20 November 1844 [CCCR 1:463]; m. by 1647 Elizabeth Smith, > daughter of Samuel Smith {1634, Watertown} (eldest known child b. > Wethersfield 10 January 1647 [WetVT Barbour 107, citing "LR1:12"); on 23 > September 1655, the eldest child of Nathaniel was "Nathaniel, aged 7" > [Manwaring 1:113]; his will of 23 June 1680, Samuel Smith of Hadley included > a bequest to "my daughter Elizabeth Gull" [HamCCR 1:213-14]). She m. (2) by > 1657 William Gull [NEHGR 152:175]. > > Allen John Mallory > Danbury, Connecticut > allen.mallory@snet.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay Allen AG" <allenk@pacbell.net> > To: <CTFAIRFI-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: [CTFAIRFI] FOOTE Ancestors > > Questions, comments, and corrections interspersed below. > > Up2Nutrix@aol.com wrote > > > OK; you asked for it -- here goes! (I've run this as the ancestors of > > Elizabeth Foote, who was the child of Nathaniel Foote, Jr., who shows up > in > > my husband's line) > > > > Doris Stanford in Colorado > > > > Ancestors of Elizabeth FOOTE > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > Snipped to save bandwidth. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. Nathaniel FOOTE, Jr.5, born March 05, 1619/20 in St. James Parish, > > Ipswich, Suffolk, England6; > > In The American Genealogist, October 1977, 53:206, this birthdate belongs to > his > brother Robert. Also it is St. James' Parish, Shalford, Essex, not Ipswich, > Suffolk. > > He married > > > 3. Elizabeth SMITH June 07, 1655 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT6. > > What is your evidence for the marriage? I have their son Daniel as being > born > 1652. > > > > > 3. Elizabeth SMITH7, born Abt. 1627 in Hadleigh, Suffolk, England8; > > Elizabeth was baptized 28 January 1627 at Hadleigh, Suffolk. > > > died > > 1711 in Hadley, Hampshire County, MA8. She was the daughter of 6. > Lieutenant > > > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 4. Nathaniel FOOTE, Sr.9, born September 21, 1592 in Shalford, > > Colchester, Essex, England10; > > What is your citation for this birth date? Could it be a baptismal date? > Usually > what is seen are baptismal dates as birth records do not exist that early. > Shgalford and Colchester are not the smae. Shalford is a parish in its own > right. > > He married 5. Elizabeth DEMING January 1614/15 in Colchester, > > Again, what is your evidence for this marriage, marriage date, and place? I > have not seen where is is definitely proven that Nathaniel's wife was a > Deming, > even though she called Jonathan Deming brother in her will. > > > Snipped. > > > > > 7. Elizabeth SMITH, born 1602 in England; died March 16, 1685/86 in > > South Hadley, Hampshire County, MA. > > Married Lt. Samuel Smith 6 October 1624, St. Margaret's, Whatfield, Suffolk. > Her birth date is estimated from her age in the passenger list of 1634. TAG > 32. > The Connecticut Nutmegger 6:297 etseq. has more on this family. On p. 300, > it > states that Samuel Smith of Ipswich, Suffolk had two sons, one of whom was > Samuel baptized 19 July 1575 who was the fathe of Lt. Samuel. As of 1973, > this > had not been verified. > > > > > > > Generation No. 4 > > > > 8. Robert FOOTE II, born Abt. 1553 in Royston, Cambridgeshire, or > > Shalford, Essex, England14; died Bef. February 15, 1607/08 in Shalford, > > Essex, England14. > > He probably died in London between 27 January 1608/9 when his will was made > in > London and 15 February 1608/09, when it was proved (PCC 21 Dorset). He was > buried at Shalford 16 Feb. 1608/09. TAG 53:201. > > > > > 9. Joan BROOKE, born Bef. May 11, 1555 in St. Leonard's, Eastcheap, > > London, England; died Aft. 1609. > > She was baptized as Johan, 11 May 1555 at St. Leonard's Eastcheap, London. > TAG55:203. October 1979. She might have been baptized on the day of her > birth, > so you are making an assumption, which may or may not be warrented, as to > when > she was born. > > Snipped. > > > Generation No. 5 > > > > 16. John FOOTE, Sr., born 1523 in Royston, Hertfordshire or > > Cambridgeshire, England14; died Bef. July 18, 1558 in Bassingbourn, > > Cambridgeshire, England14. > > I do not know of any evidence which gives a specific date or place of birth > for > John. Also I do not know of any evidence which shows he died in > Bassingbourne. > > > > > snipped. > > > > > He married 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman May 08, 1554 in St. > > Leonard's, Eastcheap, London, England. > > 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman, born Abt. 1536 in Cletchingley, > Surrey, > > England; died June 1599 in London, England. > > The name is Whatman, also spelled Whetman. This name is found in > Bletchingley, > Surrey. > > > snipped. > > > > Generation No. 6 > > > > 34. Richard WARREN, born Abt. 1501 in England; died Bef. May 02, 1557 > > He was more probably born about 1505 according to an article in The > Genealogists' Magazine September 1935. His name was Warren alias Waller. > The > family was of Long Stowe and Bassingbourne, Cambridgeshire. He also had an > inquision post mortem. > > > > > > > 35. Alice JENAWAY, born Abt. 1505 in England; died Unknown. > > The Jenaways were probably of Long Stowe. She had an uncle John, to whom her > husband left a bequest. > > > > > 36. Robert BROOKE, born Abt. 1495 in England; died July 11, 1551 in > > England. > > Hw was buried as "an Aged man" on 28 June 1551. > > > He married 37. Katheryn WOODDE Abt. 1516. > > There is no way to positively calculate a marriage date. > > > > > 37. Katheryn WOODDE, born Abt. 1500 in Kent, England; died March > 1565/66 > > in London, England. > > There is absolutely no proof that she was born a Woode. She mentions a Woode > in > her will, but that does not indicate that she was a Woode. Her maiden name > is > unknown, as is her birth date. It should read possibly about 1500. She was > probably born in Milton or Iwade, Kent. > > > > > > > Generation No. 7 > > > > 68. William WARREN, born Unknown; died Unknown. He was the son of > 136. > > Anthony WARREN > > William was alive in 1541 and d. 1557. I know of no proof or evidence that > his > father was named Anthony. > > > > > snipped. > > Kay Allen AG > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB --------------FE1F7CC3DFD4D1F5AC2B0B6D--

Questions, comments, and corrections interspersed below. Up2Nutrix@aol.com wrote > OK; you asked for it -- here goes! (I've run this as the ancestors of > Elizabeth Foote, who was the child of Nathaniel Foote, Jr., who shows up in > my husband's line) > > Doris Stanford in Colorado > > Ancestors of Elizabeth FOOTE > > Generation No. 1 > > Snipped to save bandwidth. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. Nathaniel FOOTE, Jr.5, born March 05, 1619/20 in St. James Parish, > Ipswich, Suffolk, England6; In The American Genealogist, October 1977, 53:206, this birthdate belongs to his brother Robert. Also it is St. James' Parish, Shalford, Essex, not Ipswich, Suffolk. He married > 3. Elizabeth SMITH June 07, 1655 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT6. What is your evidence for the marriage? I have their son Daniel as being born 1652. > > 3. Elizabeth SMITH7, born Abt. 1627 in Hadleigh, Suffolk, England8; Elizabeth was baptized 28 January 1627 at Hadleigh, Suffolk. > died > 1711 in Hadley, Hampshire County, MA8. She was the daughter of 6. Lieutenant > > > Generation No. 3 > > 4. Nathaniel FOOTE, Sr.9, born September 21, 1592 in Shalford, > Colchester, Essex, England10; What is your citation for this birth date? Could it be a baptismal date? Usually what is seen are baptismal dates as birth records do not exist that early. Shgalford and Colchester are not the smae. Shalford is a parish in its own right. He married 5. Elizabeth DEMING January 1614/15 in Colchester, Again, what is your evidence for this marriage, marriage date, and place? I have not seen where is is definitely proven that Nathaniel's wife was a Deming, even though she called Jonathan Deming brother in her will. > Snipped. > > 7. Elizabeth SMITH, born 1602 in England; died March 16, 1685/86 in > South Hadley, Hampshire County, MA. Married Lt. Samuel Smith 6 October 1624, St. Margaret's, Whatfield, Suffolk. Her birth date is estimated from her age in the passenger list of 1634. TAG 32. The Connecticut Nutmegger 6:297 etseq. has more on this family. On p. 300, it states that Samuel Smith of Ipswich, Suffolk had two sons, one of whom was Samuel baptized 19 July 1575 who was the fathe of Lt. Samuel. As of 1973, this had not been verified. > > > Generation No. 4 > > 8. Robert FOOTE II, born Abt. 1553 in Royston, Cambridgeshire, or > Shalford, Essex, England14; died Bef. February 15, 1607/08 in Shalford, > Essex, England14. He probably died in London between 27 January 1608/9 when his will was made in London and 15 February 1608/09, when it was proved (PCC 21 Dorset). He was buried at Shalford 16 Feb. 1608/09. TAG 53:201. > > 9. Joan BROOKE, born Bef. May 11, 1555 in St. Leonard's, Eastcheap, > London, England; died Aft. 1609. She was baptized as Johan, 11 May 1555 at St. Leonard's Eastcheap, London. TAG55:203. October 1979. She might have been baptized on the day of her birth, so you are making an assumption, which may or may not be warrented, as to when she was born. Snipped. > Generation No. 5 > > 16. John FOOTE, Sr., born 1523 in Royston, Hertfordshire or > Cambridgeshire, England14; died Bef. July 18, 1558 in Bassingbourn, > Cambridgeshire, England14. I do not know of any evidence which gives a specific date or place of birth for John. Also I do not know of any evidence which shows he died in Bassingbourne. > > snipped. > > He married 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman May 08, 1554 in St. > Leonard's, Eastcheap, London, England. > 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman, born Abt. 1536 in Cletchingley, Surrey, > England; died June 1599 in London, England. The name is Whatman, also spelled Whetman. This name is found in Bletchingley, Surrey. > snipped. > > Generation No. 6 > > 34. Richard WARREN, born Abt. 1501 in England; died Bef. May 02, 1557 He was more probably born about 1505 according to an article in The Genealogists' Magazine September 1935. His name was Warren alias Waller. The family was of Long Stowe and Bassingbourne, Cambridgeshire. He also had an inquision post mortem. > > > 35. Alice JENAWAY, born Abt. 1505 in England; died Unknown. The Jenaways were probably of Long Stowe. She had an uncle John, to whom her husband left a bequest. > > 36. Robert BROOKE, born Abt. 1495 in England; died July 11, 1551 in > England. Hw was buried as "an Aged man" on 28 June 1551. > He married 37. Katheryn WOODDE Abt. 1516. There is no way to positively calculate a marriage date. > > 37. Katheryn WOODDE, born Abt. 1500 in Kent, England; died March 1565/66 > in London, England. There is absolutely no proof that she was born a Woode. She mentions a Woode in her will, but that does not indicate that she was a Woode. Her maiden name is unknown, as is her birth date. It should read possibly about 1500. She was probably born in Milton or Iwade, Kent. > > > Generation No. 7 > > 68. William WARREN, born Unknown; died Unknown. He was the son of 136. > Anthony WARREN William was alive in 1541 and d. 1557. I know of no proof or evidence that his father was named Anthony. > > snipped. Kay Allen AG > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Posted on: Fairfield Co. Ct Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ct/Fairfield/13495 Surname: ------------------------- I am a decendent of their son, John. I would appreciate the information. Thanks

Posted on: Fairfield Co. Ct Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ct/Fairfield/13494 Surname: Wood, Snell ------------------------- Hello from England For years I have been doing my family tree until 2 years ago when I hit a brick wall! Over this weekend it has started to crumble, and I was wondering if anyone has a link to the following or is able to help me with a few searches as I cannot do this from the U.K. I have found Isabella and daughter Lily May Allchin (widow) on the Adriatic Sept 1919 visiting son John William and family as follows at address 182 Hewitt St Bridgport Conn. wife Annie b 1875 Sheffield Dorothy. b.1900 Leeds Richard b.1902 Wigan Charles b. 1905 Wigan George b. 1908 Bridgport Lillian b.1910 Wigan Stanley b. 1912 Nottingham Lester b 1913 Nottingham Raymond b 1917 Bridgport On 1920 census Lillian (Lily) May has married a Harry Snell b. 1894 Coventry Searched Ellis Island and found John & family sailed on Mauretania Aug 1913 visiting his cousin George Henry Wood at 505 Park Ave. Bridgeport Conn. Anyone connected to my WOOD or SNELL family? Can anyone help with finding George Henry Wood naturalisation in 1891 and John William applied for it in 1914 but don't know when he got it. Thanks for staying with me on this Carol Wigan Lancashire England United Kingdom

In a message dated 06/01/2001 6:49:28 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cbrennan@cableone.net writes: > Let us know. I'd be interested. OK; you asked for it -- here goes! (I've run this as the ancestors of Elizabeth Foote, who was the child of Nathaniel Foote, Jr., who shows up in my husband's line) Doris Stanford in Colorado Ancestors of Elizabeth FOOTE Generation No. 1 1. Elizabeth FOOTE1, born November 10, 1654 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT2; died September 16, 1696 in Deerfield, Franklin County, MA2. She was the daughter of 2. Nathaniel FOOTE, Jr. and 3. Elizabeth SMITH. She married (1) Daniel BELDING3 November 10, 1670 in Wethersfield, CT4. He was born November 20, 1648 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT4, and died August 14, 1731 in Deerfield, Franklin County, MA4. He was the son of William BELDEN and Thomasine SHERWOOD. Generation No. 2 2. Nathaniel FOOTE, Jr.5, born March 05, 1619/20 in St. James Parish, Ipswich, Suffolk, England6; died 1655 in Hadley, Hampshire County, MA6. He was the son of 4. Nathaniel FOOTE, Sr. and 5. Elizabeth DEMING. He married 3. Elizabeth SMITH June 07, 1655 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT6. 3. Elizabeth SMITH7, born Abt. 1627 in Hadleigh, Suffolk, England8; died 1711 in Hadley, Hampshire County, MA8. She was the daughter of 6. Lieutenant Samuel SMITH and 7. Elizabeth SMITH. Generation No. 3 4. Nathaniel FOOTE, Sr.9, born September 21, 1592 in Shalford, Colchester, Essex, England10; died Bef. December 20, 1644 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT10. He was the son of 8. Robert FOOTE II and 9. Joan BROOKE. He married 5. Elizabeth DEMING January 1614/15 in Colchester, England10. 5. Elizabeth DEMING11, born October 1595 in Shalford, Colchester, Essex, England; died July 28, 1683 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT. She was the daughter of 10. John or Jonathan DEMING and 11. Elizabeth GILBERT. 6. Lieutenant Samuel SMITH11, born 1602 in England12; died December 1680 in Hadley, Hampshire County, MA12. He married 7. Elizabeth SMITH October 06, 1624 in St. Margaret's, Whatfield, Suffolk, England12. 7. Elizabeth SMITH, born 1602 in England; died March 16, 1685/86 in South Hadley, Hampshire County, MA. Generation No. 4 8. Robert FOOTE II, born Abt. 1553 in Royston, Cambridgeshire, or Shalford, Essex, England14; died Bef. February 15, 1607/08 in Shalford, Essex, England14. He was the son of 16. John FOOTE, Sr. and 17. Ellen WARREN/WARYN. He married 9. Joan BROOKE June 18, 1576 in St. Leonard's, Eastcheap, London, England14. 9. Joan BROOKE, born Bef. May 11, 1555 in St. Leonard's, Eastcheap, London, England; died Aft. 1609. She was the daughter of 18. John BROOKE, Sr. and 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman. 10. John or Jonathan DEMING, born Unknown; died January 08, 1598/99. He married 11. Elizabeth GILBERT Unknown. 11. Elizabeth GILBERT, born Unknown; died Unknown. She was the daughter of 22. Thomas GILBERT and 23. Elizabeth BELCHER. Generation No. 5 16. John FOOTE, Sr., born 1523 in Royston, Hertfordshire or Cambridgeshire, England14; died Bef. July 18, 1558 in Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England14. He married 17. Ellen WARREN/WARYN Abt. 1547 in Hertfordshire, England14. 17. Ellen WARREN/WARYN, born Abt. 1529 in Bassingbourn, Cambridgeshire, England; died Aft. 1555. She was the daughter of 34. Richard WARREN and 35. Alice JENAWAY. 18. John BROOKE, Sr., born Abt. 1525 in London, England; died Bef. July 08, 1584 in England. He was the son of 36. Robert BROOKE and 37. Katheryn WOODDE. He married 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman May 08, 1554 in St. Leonard's, Eastcheap, London, England. 19. Elizabeth WHATMAN or Waterman, born Abt. 1536 in Cletchingley, Surrey, England; died June 1599 in London, England. 22. Thomas GILBERT, born 1556; died 1642. He married 23. Elizabeth BELCHER Unknown. 23. Elizabeth BELCHER, born Unknown; died 1645 in Wethersfield, Hartford County, CT. Generation No. 6 34. Richard WARREN, born Abt. 1501 in England; died Bef. May 02, 1557 in England. He was the son of 68. William WARREN and 69. Name UNKNOWN. He married 35. Alice JENAWAY Unknown. 35. Alice JENAWAY, born Abt. 1505 in England; died Unknown. 36. Robert BROOKE, born Abt. 1495 in England; died July 11, 1551 in England. He married 37. Katheryn WOODDE Abt. 1516. 37. Katheryn WOODDE, born Abt. 1500 in Kent, England; died March 1565/66 in London, England. Generation No. 7 68. William WARREN, born Unknown; died Unknown. He was the son of 136. Anthony WARREN and 137. Name UNKNOWN. He married 69. Name UNKNOWN Unknown. 69. Name UNKNOWN, born Unknown; died Unknown. Generation No. 8 136. Anthony WARREN, born Unknown; died Unknown. He married 137. Name UNKNOWN Unknown. 137. Name UNKNOWN, born Unknown; died Unknown.

Hi Scott and List, Thanks for your comments. While I have 3 direct Sherman lines, I'm not an expert on Edmund and the pre-immigrants. My source was the "Shermans of Yaxley Society" who claim proof back to Edmund's grandfather. Linda

I don't believe it has been proven that Edmund SHERMAN (b. abt 1572, Dedham, Essex, England; d. 1641, New Haven, Connecticut) married Joan MAKIN, daughter of Tobias MAKIN of Fingringhoe, England. In fact, Jacobus (HISTORY AND GENEALOGY OF THE FAMILIES OF OLD FAIRFIELD) writes: "He may have m. Joan Makin, dau. of Tobias of Fingringhoe, but the evidence seen does not seem conclusive." Unless new evidence has been found, Jacobus is difficult to dispute. While many early genealogies indicate Edmund SHERMAN m. Joan MAKIN, none, unfortunately, document their information. Some of the these genealogies reference the will of Tobias MAKIN. However, none of these contain transcriptions or quotations of the will. Since Jacobus would have had access to all of these writings, including Tobias Makin's will, one is left to question what the will actually says, or doesn't say. Reportedly, as I have not personally read the material, the July/Oct., 1985 issue of The American Genealogist contains an article by Myrtle S. Hyde entitled "Was Tobias Makin an Ancestor of the New England Shermans?" which, apparently, disproves the MAKIN connection to either Edmund SHERMAN or his brother John, to whom Joan Makin's sister Grace Makin supposedly married. On the MAKIN GenForum is a posting which, referencing The American Genealogist, Vol. 61, states: "I read the TAGs (The Americian Genelogist)1985, Vol 61 which proves by brother Tobias Makin Jr's 1621 will that Grace Makin bc 1585 married an 'unknown' Sherman,(not John who died bef. 1716) 'unlikely' to be Edmund and 'no supporting evidence found'. Her sister Joan Makin bc 1595 married bef. 1621 Richard Stone. John Sherman's wife was proven,(in 1986)to be Grace Ravens (my anc.) not Grace Makin. Tobias Makin Sr's wife was Elizabeth (Westbrome)Makin of Abberton, Essex. d 1596, dtr of Thomas." While none of the above, as presented, either proves or disproves the marriage of Edmund SHERMAN to Joan MAKIN, it certainly leads one to question the validity of the said marriage. Maybe another reader possesses copies of the TAG articles and will share with us their contents. --- Scott Foster In a message dated 5/30/01 2:51:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, AnnieL2436@aol.com writes: > A couple additions/corrections to the recent postings on these lines. > > Gideon Allen & Sarah Prudden (dau. of Rev. Peter Prudden & Johanna Boyse) > also had a daughter Abigail (1680-1755), who married John Shephard. > > Quite a bit of research has been done on the Sherman family: > Edmund Sherman (1572 - ~ 1642) married Joan Makin and had 9 children > including: > Hester Sherman (1606-1666), m. Andrew Ward (11 children) > Rev. John Sherman (1613- ) > Hon. Samuel Sherman (1618-1700) m. Sarah Mitchell (9 children) >

In a message dated 05/31/2001 12:27:11 PM Mountain Daylight Time, gencon@harborside.com writes: > Daniel 4) FOOTE > Daniel 3) FOOTE & Sarah 3) CHAPIN > Nathaniel 2) FOOTE & Elizabeth 2) SMITH > Nathaniel 1) FOOTE & Elizabeth 1) > DEMING If the party who submitted this information (or anyone else on the list) is interested, I have a further ascendancy of the Foote, Deming, and Smith families, which would expand out that ancestry. If anyone's interested, please let me know. Doris Stanford in Colorado (Up2Nutrix@aol.com) "He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose." -- Jim Elliot, missionary and martyr

Hi Wilma and List, > John 4) SHEPARD b 1 Nov 1681 Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut d at Milford, > New Haven, Connecticut [no date] he md May 1732 at Milford, New Haven, > Connecticut > TO Abigail ALLEN d/o Gideon ALLEN [[snip]] > Abigail ALLEN was b 9 Sep 1699 at Milford, New Haven, Connecticut, she d 19 > Dec 1750/59 at Newtown, Fairfield, Connecticut - I have 5 ch for them- While I have basically the same Shephard info, my dates for Abigail Allen & John differ. I have Abigail ALLEN bapt 5 Jan 1680\81 and married 9 Oct 1707 to John SHEPHARD. Children: 1. John Shephard, b. 26 Oct 1708. 2. Rebecca SHEPHARD, b. 1 Nov 1710, m. Joseph PECK, 20 Jun 1732 in Newtown. Their daughter Grace PECK m. Jotham SHERMAN. [[one of my direct lines]] 3. Abigail Shephard, b. 22 Oct 1713 4. Hannah Shephard, b. 11 Nov 1715 5. Timothy Shephard, b.22 Mar 1717/18 After John Shephard died, Abigail married Daniel FOOTE. Sources: Genealogies of Connecticut Families, Vol. 1-3, Vol iii, "Descendants of Edward Shephard, Mariner, Cambridge, Mass. 1639", p. 390, #17. Newtown's History and Historian, page 399. I think the Abigail ALLEN born in 1699 was to Abigail Allen Shephard's brother Gideon Allen. Linda

While I have basically the same Shephard info, my dates for Abigail Allen & John differ. I have Abigail ALLEN bapt 5 Jan 1680\81 I think the Abigail ALLEN born in 1699 was to Abigail Allen Shephard's brother Gideon Allen. Linda ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi every one - Just shows what happens when you type something in fast and don't proof read it - You are so right, I did make an error when I put Abigail ALLEN as being b 1699 that is wrong - Here's the dates - Abigail ALLEN bp 9 Sep 1688 at Milford, New Haven, CT. d 19 Dec 175- at Newtown, Fairfield, Connecticut - she was over 70y md 8 Oct 1707 at Milford, New Haven, CT She was the d/o Gideon and Sarah [PRUDDEN] ALLEN and granddaughter of Rev. Peter PRUDDEN- Abigail md2) 8 Sep 1723 at Newtown, Fairfield, Connecticut TO Daniel 4) FOOTE the widower of Dorothy BLACKMAN - he was the s/o Daniel 3) FOOTE & Sarah 3) CHAPIN [d/o David 2) CHAPIN & Lydia CRUMP and granddaughter of Samuel 1) CHAPIN & Cicely 1) PENNY] Daniel 4) FOOTE Daniel 3) FOOTE & Sarah 3) CHAPIN Nathaniel 2) FOOTE & Elizabeth 2) SMITH Nathaniel 1) FOOTE & Elizabeth 1) DEMING ~~~~~~~~~ As far as Abigail being the wife of Gideon the s/o Gideon & Sarah [PURDDEN] ALLEN- that is not the case - Gideon's wife was Ann 3) BURR b c 1675 Fairfield, Fairfield, CT d 1748 New Haven county, Connecticut md 20 Jan 1696 Fairfield TO Gideon ALLEN s/o Gideon & Sarah [PRUDDEN] ALLEN Ann BURR'S line is like this: Ann 3) BURR c1675-1748 & Gideon 3) ALLEN Nathaniel 2) BURR 1635/7-1712 & Sarah 2) WARD Jesus 1) BURR c1600-bef 1654 & Miss CABLE WARD LINE Sarah 2) WARD 1637-1692 & Nathaniel 2) BURR Andrew 1) WARD 1597-1659 & unknown wife SOURCE: SHEPARD - Shepard Families of New England pg 16-17 entry #18 ALLEN - same for her husband BURR - History and genealogy of the families of Old Fairfield, Connecticut - vol 1 pg 117 & 122; Robert Charles Anderson's "The Great Migration Begins" vol 1 pg 278 Hope this clears up the mess I made- Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com Hi Wilma and List, > John 4) SHEPARD b 1 Nov 1681 Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut d at Milford, > New Haven, Connecticut [no date] he md May 1732 at Milford, New Haven, > Connecticut > TO Abigail ALLEN d/o Gideon ALLEN [[snip]] > Abigail ALLEN was b 9 Sep 1699 at Milford, New Haven, Connecticut, she d 19 > Dec 1750/59 at Newtown, Fairfield, Connecticut - I have 5 ch for them- bornand married 9 Oct 1707 to John SHEPHARD. Children: 1. John Shephard, b. 26 Oct 1708. 2. Rebecca SHEPHARD, b. 1 Nov 1710, m. Joseph PECK, 20 Jun 1732 in Newtown. Their daughter Grace PECK m. Jotham SHERMAN. [[one of my direct lines]] 3. Abigail Shephard, b. 22 Oct 1713 4. Hannah Shephard, b. 11 Nov 1715 5. Timothy Shephard, b.22 Mar 1717/18 After John Shephard died, Abigail married Daniel FOOTE. Sources: Genealogies of Connecticut Families, Vol. 1-3, Vol iii, "Descendants of Edward Shephard, Mariner, Cambridge, Mass. 1639", p. 390, #17. Newtown's History and Historian, page 399.

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Posted on: Fairfield Co. Ct Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ct/Fairfield/13491 Surname: SHOVE ------------------------- For those who are interested in this family, one of the oldest gravestones that still exists in the City of Danbury is for Rev. Seth Shove. It reads: Here lyes buried ye body of ye Revd Mr Seth Shove ye pious & faithful Pastor of the Church in Danbury 39 years who died Octo 3d Anno Dom 1755 aged 68 years

Posted on: Fairfield Co. Ct Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ct/Fairfield/13490 Surname: SHOVE ------------------------- For those who are interested in this family, one of the oldest gravestones that still exists in the City of Danbury is for Rev. Seth Shove. It reads: Here lyes buried ye body of ye Revd Mr Seth Shove ye pious & faithful Pastor of the Church in Danbury 39 years who died Octo 3d Anno Dom 1755 aged 68 years

Gideon Allen & Sarah Prudden (dau. of Rev. Peter Prudden & Johanna Boyse) also had a daughter Abigail (1680-1755), who married John Shephard. ~~~~~~~~ Hello everyone - I thought I would add my 2¢ to the SHEPARD line - I have the SHEPARDS as one of my direct lines- from 1542 to 1896... John 4) SHEPARD b 1 Nov 1681 Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut d at Milford, New Haven, Connecticut [no date] he md May 1732 at Milford, New Haven, Connecticut TO Abigail ALLEN d/o Gideon ALLEN and Sarah PURDDEN [Gideon the s/o George 1)ALLEN and his 2nd wife Katherine 1) STARKES - I come thru George 1)ALLEN & his 1st wife Miss. H. S. SMITH they were my 9th great grandparents] Abigail ALLEN was b 9 Sep 1699 at Milford, New Haven, Connecticut, she d 19 Dec 1750/59 at Newtown, Fairfield, Connecticut - I have 5 ch for them- John 4) SHEPARD was the s/o John 3) SHEPARD b 22 Jan 1658 at Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, d Mar 1736 at Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut, he md 12 May 1680 at Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut- TO Hannah 2) PECK the d/o Paul 1) PECK and Martha 1) HALE - Hannah PECK was b 1660 Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut- she d 1689/95 at Hartford- they were parents of 7 children- John 3) SHEPARD md2) 19 March 1712/13 at Hartford, as the 3rd husband of Mary BENTON the d/o Andrew 1) BENTON and Hannah STOCKING- Mary was md 1st to Nathaniel COLE, she md2) Jonathan BIGELOW - there was no issue by John and his 2nd wife Mary BENTON. John 3) SHEPARD was the s/o John 2) SHEPARD was born 1623 at Lawford Parish, Essex, England, he died 12 June 1707 at Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut he md 4 Oct 1649 at Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts TO Rebecca 2) GREENHILL the d/o Samuel 1) GREENHILL and Rebecca 1) TAYLOR [widow 1st of [John?] BASTIAN in England] Rebecca GREENHILL was born 1630 at Staplehurst, Kent, England - she d 22 Dec 1689 at Hartford- She had a brother Thomas who never married- Rebecca's mother Rebecca [TAYLOR] was widowed once again by Samuel GREENHILL- Rebecca then md for her 3rd husband Jeremy 1) ADAMS and had 4 more children- Rebecca and John 2) SHEPARD were parents of 11 ch. John 2) SHEPARD was the s/o Edward 1) SHEPARD was born 1596 at Elmstead Parish, Tendring, Essex, England, he died June 1680 at Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts, he md1) 6 Dec 1620 at Erwarton Parish, Suffolk, England TO Violet CHARNOLD the d/o John -1) CHARNOLD and Joan .....; Violet was one of 5 children- Violet was born 26 Sep 1596 at Mistley Parish, Essex, England, she d 9 Jan 1648/9 at Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts - they were parents of 6 ch- Edward 1) SHEPARD md2) Mrs Mary POND, the widow of Robert 1) POND- Edward 1) SHEPARD was the s/o Edward -1) SHEPARD b 1570 Elmstead Parish, Tendring, Essex, England, he died 1608 in county Essex, England - he md 7 Dec 1595 at Little Bentley, Essex, England TO Catrin / Katherine BECHAM the d/o Richard -2) BECHAM & Margaret -1) REVEL- Catrin/Katherine was bp 13 Apr 1572 at Nayland Parish, Suffolk, England I don't know when she died, they were parents of 5 ch. Edward -1) SHEPARD was the s/o John -2) SHEPARD b abt 1542 at Elmstead Parish, Tendring, England - he d 1601 there - he md there abt 1569 TO Alice - she d 1588 there - they were parents of 4 children- Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com Quite a bit of research has been done on the Sherman family: Edmund Sherman (1572 - ~ 1642) married Joan Makin and had 9 children including: Hester Sherman (1606-1666), m. Andrew Ward (11 children) Rev. John Sherman (1613- ) Hon. Samuel Sherman (1618-1700) m. Sarah Mitchell (9 children) Hope this helps someone, Linda Burkell ============================== Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history learning and how-to articles on the Internet. http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library

A couple additions/corrections to the recent postings on these lines. Gideon Allen & Sarah Prudden (dau. of Rev. Peter Prudden & Johanna Boyse) also had a daughter Abigail (1680-1755), who married John Shephard. Quite a bit of research has been done on the Sherman family: Edmund Sherman (1572 - ~ 1642) married Joan Makin and had 9 children including: Hester Sherman (1606-1666), m. Andrew Ward (11 children) Rev. John Sherman (1613- ) Hon. Samuel Sherman (1618-1700) m. Sarah Mitchell (9 children) Hope this helps someone, Linda Burkell

Does anyone where these people are buried: Charles RANDALL,b. 05 May 1764 in Greenwich, CT; m. Nov. 1784 in Ridgefield, Polly (Mary) BRADLEY, dau. of Stephen and Ruth (LEE) BRADLEY. She was b. 18 Sept. 1763; died 23 Oct. 1840. Thanks. Kathy