Appreciate your reply, Kim, despite my possibly going down in flames. I waited to reply to your post until I could check my sources. Obviously, you had some big guns. B-) My source had been a lady named Maxwell in California several years ago, whose material I came across through another genealogist who was interested in the Churchills. At that point we had it all documented, etc., back to Josiah, but no further. Some place (it's been a while back) we came across some one who said that they had this information, but that they had not verified it themself. The originator, a Ms. Maxwell, with complete e-mail and address, etc. had sent it to this person. I know you are supposed to verify every thing by primary records, etc. if you can, but this particular information took the whole thing back to the 1200's .... and of course contained the famous Churchill family with the early Winston, John, the famous Duke of Marlborough, etc. Well, in corresponding with Ms. Maxwell within the last few days, she showed her material, but the part where the Churchills came in evidently came from a lady who has died just a few years ago, and she did not get her sources before she died. So, maybe she had the goods ... maybe she didn't. I realize that with all the information you gave and the corraboration by many (I'm sure) emininent or at least verifying genealogists, that you certainly have a reason to state your case. It's quite possible that you are correct. However, I plan to keep the information that I have at present. I have asked Ms. Maxwell if there is any possibility there might be some papers left by her source, genealogical friends, etc. and we will go from there. As I said, you quite possibly are right, but you never know when someone will pop up with true and validated information that doesn't go along with what was formerly known. So until then, I will keep the information that you posted, but will still keep in mind the other earlier material that I had until I see what happens down the line. BTW - my husband is descended from Josiah and then Joseph 1649-1715 Nathaniel 1677-1716 Nathaniel 1703 - ? Nathaniel 1731 - ? Nathaniel 1756 - ? Nathaniel 1784 - 1861 William 1817 - 1907 dtr. Helen Theresa Churchill m. Eugene Cleveland 1845-1923 Phillips 1841 - 1911 Ernest Churchill Phillips Sr. 1876 - 1959 Ernest Churchill Phillips Jr. 1928 - Won't go into more details unless you want me to. Too long for here and probably not really necessary. Thanks at least for telling me nicely, Betsy Phillips --------------------- > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 07:10:39 -0400 > From: branagak@twcny.rr.com > To: CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [CRV] Re: CHURCHILL, JOSIAH / 1615-1659 / > Wethersfield, CT > > Betsy, > > Here is the information I have on Josiah Churchill. > I am descended through his grandchild, Captain > Benjamin Church. I hope this email helps you. > > Kim > > > First Generation > > 1. Josiah CHURCHILL1,2,3 was born about 1614.2,4 > He emigrated about 1636 from England to New > England.5 He lived in Wethersfield, Hartford Co., > CT about 1641.4,5,6,7 Samuel J. Churchill claims > that Josiah emigrated from England to Wethersfield > in 1635. > > While in Wethersfield, Josiah held positions of > responsibilility and trust, including Constable in > 1657 and 1670 and town surveyor. In 1680, he drew > 18 acres in the land division at Wethersfield. He > signed a will on 17 Nov 1683.7,8 He died about 1 > Jan 1686 in Wethersfield, > Hartford Co., CT.6,7,9,10 > > A DIGEST OF THE EARLY CONNECTICUT PROBATE RECORDS. > 1677 to 1687. > Ancestry.com > > Page 246 Name: Josiah Churchill Location: > Wethersfield > Invt. �618-12-06. Taken 5 January, 1686-7, by Mr. > James Treat, John Buttolph. Will dated 17 November, > 1683. > I Josiah Churchill of Wethersfield do make this my > last Will & Testament: I give unto my wife Elizabeth > Churchill the use of all my Estate, whether Real or > Personal, during her natural life, excepting such > parcels of Land as shall hereafter be excepted, she > paying all my Just > Debts. And after her decease my Will is that all my > Land & other Estate of mine she shall then stand > possessed of, to be divided as follows: I give unto > my son Joseph the House & Homelott he now liveth on, > with all other Buildings thereon, and one Lott in > the Little West Field, > containing 10 acres, and another Lott containing 6 > acres. I give unto my son Joseph my 50-acre Lott at > the West End of Wethersfield Bounds. I do give unto > my son Joseph, after the decease of my wife, > Elizabeth, 5 acres in the Great Swamp, & 2 acres of > Meadow lying toward the > lower End of sd. Meadow, & half of my 5-acre Lott at > the upper End of the Great Meadow. I give unto my > son Benjamin Churchill 6 acres in the Little West > Field, also 10 acres more in the West Field. I give > unto my son Benjamin, after the decease of my wife, > my now Dwelling House > & Homelott & other Buildings upon sd. Lott, & 7 > acres of Land in the Great Swamp, & 4 acres in > Beaver Meadow, & half my 5-acre Lott at the upper > End of the Great Meadow. My Will is that all the > rest of my Moveable Estate be equally divided > betwixt my daughters Marah Church, > Elizabeth Buck, Ann Rice and Sarah Wickham. My Will > is that my wife be sole Executrix. > Witness: Samuel Talcott, John Deming. > Josiah Churchill. Ls. > Court Record, Page 128--3 March, 1686-7: Will > Proven. > > He served in the military in Pequot War.5 According > to The Churchill Family in America, Josiah's > parentage or birthplace has not been ascertained. > There is no evidence that he was related to either > John of Plymouth, who was his own age, nor to > William, the ancestor of the New > York branch of the Churchill family. > > The original Churchill family was from the southeast > of London, England, with some branches gravitating > to other districts. There is documentation that > Josiah Churchill came from Ipswich, Suffolk County, > in the east of England and bounded by the North Sea. > Essex County was > just to the south, where there was a strong Royalist > presence 'but generally was firmly held and > administered on Parliament's behalf by a group of > Puritan gentlemen.' (History of Essex. Eddwards, > A.C., Phillimore & Co., Ltd., Chichester, West > Sussex, England, 1994, p. 63.) > > Josiah has been described by researchers as "a > gentleman of more than a medium estate for the time > in which he lived, and of reputation in the Colony." > He did not hold positions of power, but he did play > an active part in public affairs. He served > numerous times as a juror, > was chosen constable in 1657 an 1670 and was elected > as one of the two town surveyors in 1666 and 1673. > > Josiah CHURCHILL and Elizabeth FOOTE were married in > 1638 in Wethersfield, Hartford Co., > CT.4,5,6,7,8,9,11,12,13 Elizabeth FOOTE (daughter > of Nathaniel FOOTE and Elizabeth DEMING) was > baptized on 14 Jan 1616/17 in Shalford, Essex, > England.13 She died on 8 Sep 1700 in > Wethersfield, Hartford Co., CT.4,6,7,8,9,10,14 > Josiah CHURCHILL and Elizabeth FOOTE had the > following children: > > +2 i. Mary CHURCHILL (born on 24 Mar 1639). > +3 ii. Elizabeth CHURCHILL (born on 15 May 1642). > +4 iii. Hannah CHURCHILL (born on 1 Nov 1644). > +5 iv. Ann CHURCHILL (born in 1647). > +6 v. Sergeant Joseph CHURCHILL (born on 2 Dec > 1649). > +7 vi. Lieutenant Benjamin CHURCHILL (born on 16 > May 1652). > 8 vii. Henry CHURCHILL15 was born about 1659 in > Wethersfield, Hartford Co., CT.3 He died about > 1660.3 > +9 viii. Sarah CHURCHILL (born on 14 Nov 1657). > > > Second Generation > > 2. Mary CHURCHILL16 (Josiah-1) was born on 24 Mar > 1639 in Wethersfield, Hartford Co., > CT.7,9,10,13,17,18 She died in 1690.14,17,18 Mary > is the mother of Benjamin Church, who m. Miriam > Hovey, Hannah Dickinson and Sarah Perkins. > > Mary CHURCHILL and Captain Samuel CHURCH were > married before 1659.9 Captain Samuel CHURCH (son of > Richard CHURCH Jr. and Anne MARSH) was born in 1636 > or 1638.14 There is some doubt as to Samuel's date > of birth. It may be that he is the twin of John > born in 1636. He was born > in 1636.19 He removed to Hadley, Hampshire Co., MA > about 165914,17 Samuel served as selectman in 1672, > surveyor in January 1673, and constable in 1681. > Tithingmen in Massachusetts were first ordered in > 1667, and Hadley chose four, including Timothy Nash, > Samuel Moody, Samuel > Church and Chileab Smith. These men inspected the > conduct of liquor sales, Sabbath breakers, night > walkers, tipplers, etc., and reported such > disorderly conduct to the magistrate. > > Samuel took the oath of allegiance in Hadley on 8 > Feb 1678. He died on 13 Apr 1684 in Hadley, > Hampshire Co., MA.17,19,20,21 Samuel Church died > intestate. The inventory of the estate of Samuel > Church of Hadley was taken on 28 Apr 1684, and > stated that Samuel died on 12 Apr > 1684. The inventory, taken by son-in-law Lieutenant > Philip Smith (another of our ancestors), Chiliab > Smith and Samuel Partrigg, totaled 408-14-08.5. He > lived in Wethersfield, Hartford Co., CT.22 Mary > CHURCHILL and Captain Samuel CHURCH had the > following children: > > +10 i. Mary CHURCH (born on 23 Jan 1665). > +11 ii. Samuel CHURCH (born on 19 Aug 1667). > +12 iii. Richard CHURCH (born on 9 Dec 1669). > +13 iv. Mehitable CHURCH (born on 11 Jan 1672). > +14 v. Josiah CHURCH (born on 10 Apr 1673). > 15 vi. Joseph CHURCH was born on 26 May 1678 in > Hadley, Hampshire Co., MA.3,15,20,23,24 "Simeon > Church" quotes date of birth as 25 May 1678. He > died in 1721 in Sunderland, Hampshire Co., > MA.17,20,23,24 > +16 vii. Captain Benjamin CHURCH (born on 1 Sep > 1680). > +17 viii. Ensign John CHURCH (born on 24 Dec 1682). > > 3. Elizabeth CHURCHILL (Josiah-1) was born on 15 > May 1642 in Wethersfield, Hartford Co., CT.7,9,10,15 > > Elizabeth CHURCHILL and Henry BUCK were married on > 31 Oct 1660.9,10,15 Henry BUCK was born in 1626 in > England.15 He died on 7 Jul 1712.15 > > 4. Hannah CHURCHILL (Josiah-1) was born on 1 Nov > 1644 in Wethersfield, Hartford Co., > CT.6,7,9,10,15,25 She died about 1689 in > Wallingford, New Haven Co., CT.9 > > Hannah CHURCHILL and Deacon Samuel ROYCE were > married on 9 Jan 1666/67 in New London, New London > Co., CT.9,15,26 Deacon Samuel ROYCE (son of Robert > ROYCE II and Mary NLN (ROYCE)) died in 1711 in > Wallingford, New Haven Co., CT.9,11 Hannah > CHURCHILL and Deacon Samuel ROYCE had > the following children: > > +18 i. Robert ROYCE (born on 27 Jan 1669). > +19 ii. Josiah ROYCE (born on 14 Feb 1670). > +20 iii. Samuel ROYCE Jr. (born on 17 Apr 1673). > === message truncated === __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com