I am descended from John Carter/Jean Chartier and his son Jean Baptiste who is the only one of his sons who remained in Canada. I have been delighted to find two third cousins on line in addition to many more distant relatives. We connected through the Chartier Families of North America Association whose US representative has much information.The Chartier's in this line are also known as Sharkey and Chortie in the US. Other captive names I have seen are Nims, Rising, Littlefield (from Maine and married into our extended Canadian family), Stevens (Permaquid, Me.),,Catlin,Corse,French, Kellogg,Hinsdale, Williams and ,as mentioned recently on this list, Stebbins. This information is from a website with notes from James Nohl Churchyard in 1995. I have misplaced the address.

Marilyn, (hope Ihave the right name) Would you or someone please send out a memo to all to please use the reply all. I am duplicating efforts and am exspending a great deal of time. I just sent out a msg. re Gillett if it is not listed let me know and I'll repeat it. There are articles of info on Kelloggs, 31 in NECCC, 3 in New England Outpost, 20 in the Uredeemed Captive, 8 in true Stories. Here is an example: Subject is about redemption of some captives: 1713-- At the head of the commission, was Captain John Stoddard of Northampton, son of the minister of that place. Mr. Williams accompanied. Martin Kellogg, one of the Deerfeld captives, who had finally escaped with Baker from Montreal, went as interpreter. His son martin Jr. was an interpreter later on. This is from True Stories....... This is too much to copy, but if you send me your address I'll find the time to photocopy it for you. Also: it would be nice to know where our cousins and friends are from. Some do give a state. Richard

Do you have a James Clement?

Pg, 200, New England Outpost, Richard Melvoin, W.W. Norton Co. has:\ Then, on September 16, 1696 the enemy surprised Deerfielders John Smead and John Gillett in the woods near town, capturing Gllett, And then attacked the home of Daniel Belding outside the fort. Contact the Pocumtuck Library in Old Deerfield. They are helpful. maybe on line by now. Richard

On the morning of February 10th, 1500 Indians are said to have attacked the town in five different places at once. The Rowlandson garrison came under strong attack and was the only garrison overrun. Mary Rowlandson, wife of the minister, was taken prisoner and some weeks later ransomed back to her family. She wrote a fascinating account of this period in The Narrative of the Captivity and Restoration of Mrs. Mary Rowlandson. In it she writes, "Quickly it was the dolefullest day that ever mine eyes saw." After some hours and several attempts, the garrison was finally set on fire. Forty-two people were in the building. Many were shot or tomahawked as they tried to escape the flames. Those women and children who got out alive were herded off into the woods to be later sold for ransom if they did not die from their wounds or were killed for traveling too slowly (see below). Very early in the attack a house was overrun by the Indians before the inhabitants could escape to the garrison. "There were five persons taken in one house. The father and the mother and a sucking child they knocked on the head; the other two they took and carried away alive." This was the family of a tailor named John Ball.[2/3,65] John Ball's estate was administered by his son John of Watertown 1 Feb. 1677-8.[4] The Ball homestead and the Rowlandson garrison were in the south part of Lancaster.[6/105] John's lands were never described in the town's Book of Lands although he was one of the first inhabitants. His lands were sold in 1682 to Thomas Harris.[6/288](per Michael Roman's website) Does the book contain any BALL information? Thanks, Cherryl

I am descended from the Waite family who was carried off to Canada by Indians from Deerfield in 1704. The story of their daring rescue is told in Waite family histories. Two books written about the Williams family, also abducted, are THE BOY CAPTIVE OF OLD DEERFIELD (part of a series) by Mary P. Wells Smith, originally published in 1904 but still in print, and THE UNREDEEMED CAPTIVE by John Demos, 1994. Both are available in the Deerfield book/gift shop. Kearby

Sorry! none of them does.

I've been looking for a Gillet for someone in California who was supposed to be here in the 1600's This is an early Gillett. Joseph Gillett, 1641-1675, was killed at the Battle of Bloody Brook. The immigrant was Jonathan Gillett who immigrated on the Mary and John, and was declared freeman in May, 1635, at Dorchester. He removed to Windsor, CT, in 1636 with his wife and three oldest children. He died in Windsor, on Aug 27, 1677. Abby

Among the editorial staff of the GENEALOGICAL AND FAMILY HISTORY OF THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT listed on the cover page of Vol. I is, " Edward Henry Clement, Editor 'Boston Transcript,' 1881-1906." I read the Boston Transcript at the DAR Library - not on microfilm but for real! Kearby Easton, MD

Richard, Are there any members of the Gillet, Gylet (or any similar spelling) family mentioned in the books. I am particularly interested in family lines not associated with Deerfield. However, I sure there are members of this family that would be interested in the Deerfield line. I've been looking for a Gillet for someone in California who was supposed to be here in the 1600's, but no one can find any mention of him any where. The only thing I know is he probably came into this country through Boston. Also are there any stories about the Kellogg family. I think I read somewhere that a Kellogg living in the general area of Deerfield, not sure of the town, was taken captive. I think the person eventually ended up living in central CT after his release. Marilyn CT Richard Le Maire wrote: > > Marilyn, > There are about 125 from Deerfield alone and that doesn't include, > Hatfield, Hadley and other surrounding towns like Northfield etc. then > there are the New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine captives plus. > Many of the names were "francofied" and there is alist of those alone. > There are 57 entries alone for Stebbens > If Someone has a French line and the names don't seem French, there is a > strong possibility the name has been changed through transliteration or > who knows what. > Farnsworth/Phaneuf > John Carter/Jean-Joseph Cartier > elisabeth Corse/Corsonquit, Coursin, Cursinwhitt > Deerfield itself shows up as Guerfille > Those of you who have French lines check them out. > Also names like Langlois, Langlais mean the English one. > Who said it was easy? > Richard > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Any misbehaving on this list will be warned --ONCE--no second chances.. > THIS WARNING ONLY APPEARS ONCE > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/

Richard: know what you mean. I am researching the Grenier family and the Ludington/Luddington/Ludenton/Ludinten family. I would appreciate it if you could look and see if any of these appear in your book. Fred Jones Bremerton, Washington ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Le Maire <rclwps@webtv.net> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [CRV] New Eng. Captive-Elizabeth Howe > Marilyn, > There are about 125 from Deerfield alone and that doesn't include, > Hatfield, Hadley and other surrounding towns like Northfield etc. then > there are the New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine captives plus. > Many of the names were "francofied" and there is alist of those alone. > There are 57 entries alone for Stebbens > If Someone has a French line and the names don't seem French, there is a > strong possibility the name has been changed through transliteration or > who knows what. > Farnsworth/Phaneuf > John Carter/Jean-Joseph Cartier > elisabeth Corse/Corsonquit, Coursin, Cursinwhitt > Deerfield itself shows up as Guerfille > Those of you who have French lines check them out. > Also names like Langlois, Langlais mean the English one. > Who said it was easy? > Richard > > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Any misbehaving on this list will be warned --ONCE--no second chances.. > THIS WARNING ONLY APPEARS ONCE > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ >

Richard, Who are some of the other captives mentioned in the book. Some people may not realize that an ancestor of theirs was one of those captives. Marilyn CT Richard Le Maire wrote: > > thanks for new site. I only copied the entire entry for teasers in the > hopes more will get into the Captives. > I gave a lecture on this to 50+ at the Southern California Genealogical > Society iin Butbank and only one other person was descended--a Phaneuf > (farnsworth) > Richard

Read: The Unredeemed Captive by John Demos 1994 New England Outpost -War and Society in Colonial Deerfield 1989 Pioneers of New France in New England heritage reprint originally 1894 True Stories of New England Captives C. Alice Baker Heritage reprint original ly 1897 And the Emma Coleman classics New England Captives Carried to Canada. i bought all these at different times at the store in Old Deerfield located town center by the Inn.

Marilyn, There are about 125 from Deerfield alone and that doesn't include, Hatfield, Hadley and other surrounding towns like Northfield etc. then there are the New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine captives plus. Many of the names were "francofied" and there is alist of those alone. There are 57 entries alone for Stebbens If Someone has a French line and the names don't seem French, there is a strong possibility the name has been changed through transliteration or who knows what. Farnsworth/Phaneuf John Carter/Jean-Joseph Cartier elisabeth Corse/Corsonquit, Coursin, Cursinwhitt Deerfield itself shows up as Guerfille Those of you who have French lines check them out. Also names like Langlois, Langlais mean the English one. Who said it was easy? Richard

Dear Geri, John Pettibone, whose family may have come from Wales to Windsor but were not founders of Windsor, married Sarah Eggleston in Windsor 16 Feb 1664, as the posting from HISTORY OF SIMSBURY,... by Phelps states. They became founders of Simsbury. GENEALOGY OF THE PETTIBONE FAMILY by I. Fayette Pettibone, published in 1885, lists 9 children for John and Sarah: John, b. 15 June 1665, m. Mary Bissell Sarah, b. 24 Sept 1667, m. John Mills and John Humphrey Stephen, b. 3 Oct. 1669, m. Deborah Bissell Samuel, b. 2 Sept. 1672, m. Judith Shepard (my ancestors - I did not xerox beyond here) Rebecca, b. 9 Mar 1675, Henry, b. 20 June 1677 Ann, b. 11 Mar 1679 Benjamin, b. 28 May 1682 Joseph, b. 11 Mar 1688 The Barbor Collection of Simsbury vital records has dates for many, including your Rebecca. The GENEALOGICAL AND FAMILY HISTORY OF THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT, edited by Cutter, et al, Vol. 1, p. 30 gives the "Pettibone Line." The "line" is John and Sarah, including their origins in Windsor, and then down through their son Samuel. A DIGEST OF THE EARLY CONNECTICUT PROBATE RECORDS by Manwaring, Vol. III, Hartford District contains the wills for Rebeckah (Pettibone) Holcomb and Capt. Thomas Holcomb on p. 64. Vibert's THREE CENTURIES OF SIMSBURY CT, 1970 mentions Capt. Thomas Holcomb serving in various capacities, including the legislature, with members of the Pettibone family. Contact me if you would like copies of any of this. I don't have any of these books - just parts I have xeroxed. Kearby

Richard, <<see inserted note>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:18:42 -0700 (PDT) rclwps@webtv.net (Richard Le Maire) writes: > Most of my research has been on the French-Candian side but the > crossover was ineviable. Ihave John the father's will (copy) , > Jean-Baptiste's baptism 1739, article from the Gfld. Courieur-now > the > Gfld Gazette- from the Stebbins file at the Pocmtuck Valley > Historical > Society, Deerfield, Mass. re "Thankful Stebbins > An Unredeemed stebbins" give by Alice Baker, Feb 24, 1891 (copy), > French-Canadian and Acadian Genealogicalreeview article-Ernest monty > with short pedigree ofthe Alexanders<<<(Richard- I would like to know how you disagree with Monty. Not much is known of the Alexanders.)>>> with which I am not in full > agreement, map of homelots on Longmeadow St. showing lots of Sam > Stebbins, other Stibbinge, Stubbing, Stebbing, Stebbynges in this > country and per de Stebbing , Stebenne, Steben etc. in Canadacopy of > baptism of Abigail stebben signed by Vaudreuil, meriel pretre, > marguerite stebbens in her hand and others,article from Hacock > Herald > (NY) 21 March 1963, by Pierre De Nion re Pierre de Noyon aka Aaron > ,copy > of first several pages from "the Original Lists of Persons of > quality" > 1600-1700 with their ages, the ocalities where they formerly lived > etc."Brief Sketch ot the first settlement Deerfield, Mass. (48pages > brief)and snotes I had taken from the Essex library in Salem MA plus > pedigree charts for my own family. Josette Stebenne was my > grandfather's grandmother. > To others, please indicate from which child you descend. That gives > me > a better starting place. Richard > PS I am from Turners Falls now living in Palm Springs. Little Joe > went > far and wide. > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Thanks, Peter, et al for some really neat stories. A-M Coke

Hi Sherrie, The keeper of the Ancestry file for STEBBINS is Capt. Rod STEBBINS. His E-mail address: CaptRod@weak-industries.com. He has 63,000+ names all Stebbins cousins. I am only ONE. Howard STEBBINS (CT) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Wed, 09 Aug 2000 18:43:19 EDT "Sherrie Patterson" <judpatterson@hotmail.com> writes: > Richard, > > Hello, Since I too am a descendant of Stebbins line, that was taken > captive > by the Indians and taken to(?) Deerfield, I would like to hear what you > have? > > Sherrie, > > > From: Howard A Stebbins <stebbhs@juno.com> > > Hi Richard, > If you have lots of info on captives from New England dropped off at > the > Indian Village perhaps some of the readers on here would be > interested. How > about sharing? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:57:13 -0700 (PDT) rclwps@webtv.net (Richard Le > Maire) writes: > > Could this be Caughnawaga an Indian village near Montreal and > dropping off > point for captives from New England. I have lots of info on them. > > Richard/CA > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > The Connecticut River Valley List covers the history and genealogy > of the Connecticut River Valley. > http://searches.rootweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl put > Ct-River-Valley in the box > http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogy library for Conn River > area) > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > Howard (CT) PLAIN Text only. NO ATTACHMENTS. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

I searched the referenced website: > http://genweb.net/~captivity/> and found an interesting tale. One of the stories is titled "Rogers Rangers Revenge". The American author, Kenneth Roberts, based one of his novels on this incident. His novel follows closely the story told in the website. Robert's books are to be recommended for showing the early history of the CT Valley and pre-revolutionary and revolutionary New England. Another of Roberts' books is about the invasion of Canada by Arnold shortly after the start of the Revolutionary War. Arnold was indeed an American hero in spite of his later treason at West Point. Carl Hommel hommel@sundial.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Vanderbrouk <rpckvv@swbell.net> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [CRV] New Eng. Captive-Elizabeth Howe > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Richard Le Maire <rclwps@webtv.net> > To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 5:21 PM > Subject: Re: [CRV] New Eng. Captive-Elizabeth Howe > > > > Howe, Elizabeth, of Marlborough. > > Richard, thanks I have seen this work and copied the pages you quoted. I > hope this will lead to further discussion regarding "English" captives. The > following is a related website: > http://genweb.net/~captivity/> > >

Two other books (which I read as a child, living in Springfield, MA, just S. of Deerfield and descended on my mother's side from very early New England roots) are: "The Redemmed Captive (Returning to Zion)", by John Williams, Minister of the Gospel in Deerfield, and "The Boy Captive of Old Deerfield", by Mary P. W. Smith. I remember very graphically as a child visiting the old Frary House in Deerfield and seeing the hatchet in the front door. ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Le Maire <rclwps@webtv.net> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [CRV] New Eng. Captive-Elizabeth Howe > thanks for new site. I only copied the entire entry for teasers in the > hopes more will get into the Captives. > I gave a lecture on this to 50+ at the Southern California Genealogical > Society iin Butbank and only one other person was descended--a Phaneuf > (farnsworth) > Richard > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > List your sources when giving information > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > http://www.quadrangle.org (Conn River Valley Gen.Library) > http://www.acpl.lib.in.us [Allen county library] > http://www.nehgs.org [New Eng His.Genealogical Society] > List owner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ >