9/5/2000 Looking for the parents of Lucinda CLARK "of Westminster, VT" b. abt. 1776, d. Aug. 5, 1824, married Sept. 12, 1796 to Simeon ALDRICH "of Saxtons River, VT". Please send messages to PontegwaTrail@juno.com Charles B. Wright PO Box 519 Walpole, NH 03608 PontegwaTrail@juno.com

Not part of CT, although many settlers came from there. VT was contested by NH and NY as a part of their states, however. Sylvia Bugbee Assistant Archivist University of Vermont On Sun, 3 Sep 2000, Anne E. Wellman wrote: > VT was once part of CT which may explain the discrepancy in his birthplace. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Becky McIntire <beckymac@neo.rr.com> > To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2000 9:54 AM > Subject: Re: [CRV] Grandfather in War 1812 > > > > Hi Bonnie > > I tried that site it doesn't help me. I have his 1812 enlistment papers > and pension papers. Right now I am trying to find out > > where he was born and who his parents were. He seems to have appeared in > 1812, his birth would have been in 1797, then there > > is no record of him until after the war when he gets married in VA. My > problem is that everything says he was born in VT. > > census, marriage application etc. but his enlistment papers say CT. So I > am not even sure about the state. > > Becky > > > > bweber wrote: > > > > > Becky > > > Have you tried the Olive tree > > > www.rootsweb.com/~ote/1812.htm > > > Bonnie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Shirley Hulett <marcompro@juno.com> > > > To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 3:44 PM > > > Subject: Re: [CRV] Grandfather in War 1812 > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bonnie...I'd appreciate a lookup. > > > > some family records indicate that my > > > > 4 gr grandfather ,, Gad Blakeslee, served in the War of 1812 for a > > > > very brief period. (2 weeks) > > > > At the time of service he would have been listed > > > > as a resident of Plymouth/Thomaston Conn. > > > > (Same town, but changed it's name) or > > > > perhaps nearby Waterbury, Conn. > > > > Name: Gad Blakeslee > > > > In advance, thanks > > > > Shirley in San Diego > > > > On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 14:59:16 -0400 "bweber" <bweber@attcanada.ca> > writes: > > > > > Hi Becky > > > > > Maybe one of us could help you if you gave a name for this person. > > > > > Several people on the list have various resources, but of course we > > > > > can't > > > > > help if we don't know who you are looking for. > > > > > This is not a reprimand, I like to help when ever I can. > > > > > Bonnie > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > (on first page,put in box: Ct-River-Valley > > > > http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogical lib.for Ct-River-Valley > area) > > > > listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > > > Conn.River Valley Genealogical Research Library: > http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogical library for Conn River area) > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > > > http://www.nehgs.org New Eng.Hist.Genealogical Society > > > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > > > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > http://www.quadrangle.org [CRV musuem and genealogy library] > > List owner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > > > ============================== > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > (on first page,put in box: Ct-River-Valley > http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogical lib.for Ct-River-Valley area) > listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. > >

Have never seen good information on exactly what Vermont soldiers role was in the War of 1812. Our Howe ancestors were in for 3 mo. from Grafton in Windham Co. VT. but cannot find where they went. Please, what would be a good resource for following a town's company? anne ----- Original Message ----- From: Sherrie Patterson <judpatterson@hotmail.com> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: [CRV] Vermont Information > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_5007_539d_4073 > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > ------=_NextPart_000_5007_539d_4073 > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns;mail.hotmail.com > Received-From-MTA: dns;mail.hotmail.com > Arrival-Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:59:41 -0700 > > Final-Recipient: rfc822;CT-RIVER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.1.1 > Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550 5.1.1 <CT-RIVER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com>... User unknown > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_5007_539d_4073 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; > Mon, 4 Sep 2000 13:59:41 -0700 > Received: from 205.188.196.43 by lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 04 Sep 2000 20:59:40 GMT > X-Originating-IP: [205.188.196.43] > From: "Sherrie Patterson" <judpatterson@hotmail.com> > To: CT-RIVER-VALLEY@rootsweb.com > Subject: Vermont Information > Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 16:59:40 EDT > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > Message-ID: <F34wyJR5cTNrOXlMjK600006d09@hotmail.com> > X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2000 20:59:41.0190 (UTC) FILETIME=[0B5BDA60:01C016B3] > > Hello group, I was talking to my cousin this afternoon about vermont and she > told me that she had some information that she send to me and I want to > forward it on to all of you.. > > > Vermont had its beginnings in a land controversy. Near the middle of the > eighteenth century, both Benning Wentworth, the colonial governor of New > Hampshire, and Lt. Governor Cadwallader Colden, representing the colonial > government of New York, claimed territory in what is now Vermont. > Massachusetts claimed a small part along Vermont's southern border. Each > government petitioned the king to validate their boundaries to include the > disputed Vermont land. However, the process of petitioning did not stop > either New Hampshire or New York from issuing grants for the same land to > their own proprietors and the proprietors in turn selling the land to > settlers. > > Settlers from lower New England and New York began to arrive in â€oThe > Grants,” as they were called, in the 1760s. Previous residents of the and > included a few French settlements in the northern part of the state, the > remainder of the Native American population in the region after the French > and Indian Wars, and some early New England settlers around Fort Dummer on > the Connecticut River. By 1760, most of these settlers, with the exception > of the remaining Abenaki tribe, had moved back to more populated areas in > New England and Canada. Life for those settling â€oThe Grants” consisted > of clearing rock-laden forests. The settlers were also faced with the > uncertainty as to whether the land they were homesteading was really theirs > or belonged to someone else who also thought they had a legitimate claim. > > The Vermont land controversy between New York and New Hampshire about the > grants was complicated by different types of land ownership practiced by the > two colonial governments. Those who received grants from New York were > generally from the upper classes and leased their land on a rental basis to > others who farmed it for them. New Hampshire grants were generally given to > middle class farmers and civic leaders, who in turn sold the land outright > to those who settled it and farmed it. England settled the controversy in > favor of New York in 1764â€"a decision unpopular with most Vermonters. > > This land controversy, the French and Indian War in the early 1750s, and the > onset of the American Revolution kept the number of actual settlers coming > into Vermont low. Vermont declared itself independent in 1777, not > answerable to England or the governors of New York or New Hampshire. Vermont > recognized the land grants made by New Hampshire only and began issuing > grants of its own for land previously not claimed. Settlement began in > earnest once the Revolution was concluded in 1783. At the same time, Vermont > attempted, with a good deal of ambivalence according to some historians, to > become part of the union, eventually achieving statehood in 1791. > > Initially, after statehood, population soared. Geography played a critical > role in the state's settlement. The Green Mountains run north-south through > the center of the state, leaving the rivers as the major east-west conduits > for travel and dividing the state into mountainous areas and river valleys, > flood plains, and rock-laden terrain. Lake Champlain, running along most of > the state's western border provided means of western migration to New York > and beyond. > > Today's roads generally follow the same migration trails as were cut during > the settlement period. Small farms, nestled among the valleys and in the > Lake Champlain region, and small industries using Vermont's forest resources > constituted the major economic life of the state. Merino sheep and Morgan > horses have also played their part in the attempt to create a reliable > economy. > > Following the War of 1812 a series of economic and meteorologic calamities > occurred, including the â€oYear of No Summer(1816). A major migration of > those leaving the state was the result. An influx of new settlers > French-Canadians, Italians, and Irish among them during the > mid-nineteenth century changed, somewhat, the population's ethnic > constitution. Vermont contributed more per capita from its treasury and from > its population of young men in the Civil War than any other state in the > Union. Between the 1860s and the 1970s there was little population growth. > In the twentieth century, a devastating flood in the central part of the > state in 1927 and the national depression in the 1930s made it difficult for > Vermont to recover economically. Tourism became a strong draw in the late > twentieth century, with recreational industry and a desire to retreat from > urban and suburban living as part of the impetus for new settlement today. > > The first settlers of Vermont carried on the early New England tradition of > recording events at the town level. The vital records are incomplete before > mandatory registration began in 1857. It is not uncommon to find an entire > family recorded as a family group before 1820. In some cases, although the > event was recorded in a particular town, it may have actually occurred in > another town or state where the family previously resided. Not all the > births were recorded, even for families that did report some. Marriages and > deaths in the pre-1857 period were less likely to be recorded. > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_5007_539d_4073-- > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Any misbehaving on this list will be warned --ONCE--no second chances.. > THIS WARNING ONLY APPEARS ONCE > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >

John CLOUGH, John WARREN, jnr, all FLAGGs, all BIGELOWs, Michael BARSTOW, mine all mine ! Thank you for writing this out............

page 1018 History of Watertown,Mass by Bond, 1860 1638 John Pearce [Pierce] Nicholas Busby David Fiske Isaac Mixer Henry Kemball Henry Dow Daniel Pierce 1639 John Dwight Henry Phillips Robert Daniel Samuel Freeman Nicholas Guy Edmund Blois Roger Porter John Cross Robert Tucke Robert Sanderson 1640 William Paine Thomas Ruck Timothy Wheeler Henry Green William Godfrey Thomas Arnold Peter Noyes?? William Potter Samuel Morse** 1641 Ellis Barron William Parker George Bullard 1642 John Clough John Wetherill Samuel Thatcher Isaac Cummings Robert Pierce 1643 Nathan Fiske George parkhurst Nathaniel Norcross 1644 John Gay Herbert Pelham?? John Stimson Lambert Chinery Robert Jennison John Warren, jr 1645 Joseph Underwood 1646 Benjamin Crispe Henry Thorpe George Woodward Charles Sterns John Wincoll 1647 William Bridges John Stebbin John Whitney,jr** David Fiske,jr Thomas Boyden Richard Hassell 1648 Bartholomew Pierson 1649 garrett Church Joshua Stubbs John Knowles John Ball Robert Pearse 1651 Richard Whitney** William Hamlet ?? 1652 John Sawin Richard Norcross 1653 Jeremiah Norcross Simon Stone,jr Samuel Stratton 1654 Joseph Child 1656 John Chadwick 1657 Justinian Holden Anthony Beers 1660 Hugh Clarke Henry Spring 1663 Robert Harrington Nathaniel Holland Daniel Pearce ?? Lawrence Waters 1665 Isaac Sternes,jr ** John Stone John Grout 1666 John Benjamin,jr Thomas Fitch Henry Dow,jr 1668 John Benjamin [probably a repetition] Nathaniel Coolidge Jonathan Whitney** Jonathan Browne Benjamin Bullard [then of Meadfield] Thomas Philbrick [then of Hampton] my note: probably NH 1669 John Morse of Groton** John Sherman John Prescott [then of Lancaster] 1670: John Warren 1671 John Banard Samuel Livermore John Bright 1672 Nathan Fiske,jr John Morsse 1673: Stephen Cooke [then of Mendon] 1674: Gershom Flagg [then of Woburn] 1678: Obadiah Perry [ then of Billerica] 1679: John Marrion [then of Cambridge] 1682 John Flagg Abraham Gale Nathaniel Barsham** William Bond Samuel Jennison 1683 Samuel Parris [ then of Boston] Theophilus Rhodes [then of Boston] 1684: John Whitney [then of Roxbury]** 1685: Uriah Clark [then of Roxbury] Lt. William Bond jr Ebenezer Prout Abiah Sherman Caleb Church Samuel Eddy 1690 Nicholas Wyeth Thomas Rider Eliezer Flagg [then of Concord] John Tarbell [then of Salem Village] my note: now Danvers John Mason [then of New Cambridge] my note: now Newton Ebenezer Stone [then of New Cambridge] Stephen Cooke [ of New Cambridge] Josiah Jones John Livermore Thomas Woolson Joseph Garfield Josiah Treadway John Woodward Benjamin Wellington John Bond John Fiske Joseph Harrington Thomas Hammond Michael Barstow Joseph Pierce,sr John Bigelow sr John Wright ?? Daniel Harrington Roger Wellington William Shattuck John Chinery John Parkhurst Nathaniel Bright Samuel Hager Palsgrave Wellington Thomas Harrington Nathaniel Bond John Kemball Jonathan Smith John Bisco Willam Goddard Samuel Thatcher,jr John Bacon Thomas Whitney** Richard Child,jr Benjamin Pierce Joseph Underwood Thomas Kidder Richard Cutting,sr ** Henry Spring,jr Jonathan Stimson Samuel Bigelow Benjamin Flagg Benjamin Garfield Richard Child Daniel Warren John Stearns [then of Billerica] Joseph Mason John Warren,jr Thomas Straite Samuel Bigelow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- END of Freemen of Watertown ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ?? questionable by author [author notes in bracketts] ** indicates my lines if one wants to exchange info. Cynthia Moderator of : Ct-River-Valley-L@rootsweb.com CTHartfo-L@rootsweb.com MANorfol-L@rootsweb.com Ma-Bay-Colony-L@rootsweb.com Rootsweb sponsor

Lists: Here is a list of freemen of Watertown dated as shown: [** is my line if anyone wants to exchange info] Remember: queries use LookUpsNE@hotmail.com History of Watertown by Bond; 1860.....page 1017 1631,May: George Phillips Richard Browne Capt .Daniel Patrick Serj. John Strickland John Oldham Edmund Lockwood John Page John Doggett Ephraim Child Robert Seely William Clarke Robert Feake Samuel Hosier Charles Chadwick Jonas Weede Richard Staltonstall jr William Jennison Daniel Abbott John Warren Daniel Finch John Masters Isaac Sterne [Stearns]** John FIrmin John Gosse Francis Smith ------- 1632: Abraham Browne John Benjamin 1633 John White John Smith 1634 Thomas Cakebread Edward How [Howe] John Hayward Andrew Ward Thomas Mayhew Bryan Pendleton Anthony Pierce John Bernard Martin Underwood Samuel Smith [?] John Browne John Eddy Robert Abbot Robert Coe Nathaniel Foote Robert Reynolds 1635 Hugh Mason George Munning Edward Dix Thomas Bartlett John Prince John Wolcott Barnabas Wines John Reynolds Henry Bright Thomas Hastings John Livermore John Batchelor John Tompson John Gay Richard Kemball Daniel Morse Edward Garfield Richard Woodward 1636 John Knight William Hammond Nicholas Jacob John Whitney ** William Swain John Kingsbury Michael Barstow Mathias [?miles]Ives Edward Goffe Edmund Lewis John Stowers John Smith jr John Eaton Edmund Sherman John Coolidge Gregory Stone Simon Stone John Loveran William Wilcocks ? Edward White ? thomas Brooks 1637 AbrahamShaw Robert Lockwood William Barsham** Richard Beers ** Thomas Carter Edward Waite Thomas Brigham Simon Eire John Lawrence Thomas Smith John Sherman John Rogers Miles Nutt ---------------------------------------------- No spelling has been altered, I listed names under the year only......the month and day was left out as it would make it tooooo long. Cynthia Moderator of : Ct-River-Valley-L@rootsweb.com CTHartfo-L@rootsweb.com MANorfol-L@rootsweb.com Ma-Bay-Colony-L@rootsweb.com Rootsweb sponsor

This is mainly for the Ma-Bay-Colony list but will include my other lists as well. I have an old book: .......the dates in the book start from 1630 . " Bond's Genealogies and History of Watertown,Mass; Early Settlers of Watertown including Waltham and Weston" author: Henry Bond, MD pub. New England Historic-Genealogical Society, Boston; 1860 2d edition I will do look ups.......however.......many of the "look ups" will be in a great deal of detail and I mean too much for email....and what I suggest is: 1. be specific whom you are searching....... 2. include dates if possible 3. if you know the family surname, ask for specfic person if known 4. if the info is brief, I will email it to you. ......if not....... .we can discuss postage and copying fees[25 cents per page]. I cannot be specific on the postage or copying fees as some are only few lines long while others have pages of information. I have set up a new mailing address specifically for this.......... LookUpsNE@hotmail.com This will keep my email from getting mixed up with the queries . DO NOT USE my NewEnglander1621@msn.com for QUERIES as I will NOT respond to it. Cynthia Moderator of : Ct-River-Valley-L@rootsweb.com CTHartfo-L@rootsweb.com MANorfol-L@rootsweb.com Ma-Bay-Colony-L@rootsweb.com Rootsweb sponsor

I wish I could take credit for the emigration info that was sent out. I just ask the question. I wasn't the one who sent the info out. This is the best list I have ever been on, everyone is so helpful even to answer some of my dumb questions. Thanks for being so helpful Becky "Anne E. Wellman" wrote: > See the correction- it wasn't CT but NH and NY. Becky McIntire's list of > emigration info is VERY informative. Thanks Becky- it was the best summary > I've seen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Lwsylvstr@aol.com> > To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:46 PM > Subject: Re: [CRV] Grandfather in War 1812 > > > In a message dated 09/03/2000 2:24:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > > annewellman@mindspring.com writes: > > > > << VT was once part of CT which may explain the discrepancy in his > birthplace. > > >> > > Hi! Anne, > > > > I didn't know that. Is there a website that shows the New England states > > boundaries over time? I've only been on this email list about a month > and > > have learned so much. Thanks for your time. > > > > Lynn > > Georgia, USA > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > > Any misbehaving on this list will be warned --ONCE--no second chances.. > > THIS WARNING ONLY APPEARS ONCE > > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > > > ============================== > > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > This list covers genealogy and history of The Connecticut River Valley > Accuracy is important--double check your spelling and dates . > Got information to share-----share them.....list sources > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogical lib for Ct-River-Valley area) > http://www.acpl.lib.in.us [research lib in Indiana] > listowner; NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/

Thanks Anne, its a possiblity I will have to check out. Thanks for your help. This is one of the best and helpful list I have ever been on. Becky "Anne E. Wellman" wrote: > Some of Grafton VT , Windham County immigration came from Paxton MA. There > was one Richardson listed as Benjamin Richardson who mar. Patience EArle I > presume in > Paxton- was born Nov 24 1703. > Don't know if they went to VT. > Perhaps they were relatives of your Richardson? May be worth a shot. this > is from the book The History of Paxton. That was the only Richardson I > could find. > anne wellman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Becky McIntire <beckymac@neo.rr.com> > To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 11:26 PM > Subject: Re: [CRV] Where do I find records 1796/7 : Vt? NH? Conn ??? > > > Thanks for the info, maybe I'm looking in the wrong states, although I > > understand NY. records are hard to come by. Thanks > > Becky > > > > NewEnglander1621 wrote: > > > > > This is a brief "history" of Vt that may help ....... > > > > > > One needs to know the history of the boundary changes in Vt and NH > > > as well as Mass and Conn to know where to look for records > > > > > > Vermont was under the jurisdiction of NY for a while and NH as well > until > > > Vt became independent state in 1791. which means depending on the date > of > > > occurrence, the record could be in NY, NH, or Vt. > > > > > > 1760-1780: there were 2 Connecticut migrations- > > > --eastern Vermont was populated by conservative, law-abiding, colonist > and > > > Congregationalist from eastern Conn [Windham Co.,Conn had a big > migration to > > > Vt] > > > --western Vt were from the western Conn families who were less > conservative, > > > sectarian, and religious doubters, Baptist, Church of England, radical > in > > > religion and government. > > > ---BOTH groups came for new cheap land > > > --smaller migrations from western and central Massachusetts and > Connecticut > > > BORDER towns, also Rhode Is., New Hamp,.and NY[Dutchess > > > County]---all these areas were adjoining [state of]Connecticut. > > > ---hence the term "new Connecticut".......but VT was never part of > > > Connecticut. > > > ---settlements started in the south and moved north, generally in the > winter > > > when the "roads" were smoother and ice made river travel easier > > > --1773....Scots arrived in Ryegate and Barnet > > > --1770-80: tories were ousted, many fled to Canada with some NY and > Nova > > > Scotia. In advance of the British army and guerrilla expeditions on > Lake > > > Champlain and up the Connecticut River, many patriots panicked and moved > > > back south > > > ----------------------------- > > > 1783-1803 > > > ----migrations "exploded".....settlers from Connecticut still was the > major > > > source of population growth following by Mass., NH. RI, and eastern NY. > > > ------------------------------- > > > 1800-1808 > > > ---town life begins to blossom and then fade > > > ---every town had at least one distillery and it's rival, organized > religion > > > ---a lot of enthusiasm for organized religion: > > > 7 Methodist circuits > > > State wide Universalistic association > > > 20 free will Baptist churches > > > bickering among churches as within churches > > > ----12 circulating libraries and 14 weekly papers.......[3 inWindsor > alone] > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > People began leaving despite no outstanding depression, disease or > > > controversy..........it was migration of surplus youth.......3/4 of the > Vt > > > population was under 30....... > > > > > > -----land in Canada was good, cheap and easy to reach > > > ----northern NY became attractive for farming where winter travel by > sled > > > made the Vermonters first settlers in all northern NY counties ! > > > ---Genessee fever...started in 1795 in central and western NY with > > > advertised > > > lands in the Military Tract, Phelps and Gorham Purchase, Holland > Purchase. > > > It was a chance to join relatives from Mass and Conn after probably > being > > > separated a generation or two. It's estimated that 500 sleds passed > Albany > > > on one winter day in 1795 and 15-20 boats up the Mohawk River on a > summer > > > day. > > > ----hundreds moved down the Susquehanna Valley to the Delaware Gap area > and > > > northeastern Pennsylvania > > > ----by 1800....the Western Reserve, southern Ohio, and the Gulf states. > > > northern NY > > > ------------------------------------------------- > > > 1820-1830...increased Emigration.......... > > > ----as always.....land > > > --Lake Champlain Canal completed in 1822 became a water route to the > Hudson > > > River > > > ---Erie Canal in NY......routes east and west > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > 1830-1840 > > > after 1836 emigration became a public issue........as a response VT > became > > > committed to a single crop---sheep.....more than the south was committed > > > to cotton > > > ----1,500,000 sheep kept grazing and ate back the forest > > > ---most of the emigrants during this time were poor farmers whose land > had > > > given out, as well as educated youth, craftspeople, etc. > > > ----wagon trails followed the old water routes [and canals] > > > ----5 popular states of choice at this time : NY, Ohio, Michigan, > Illinois, > > > and Wisconsin, with some choosing eastern seaboard cities and some went > to > > > deep south. > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > > 1850-1860 > > > Railroads........... > > > --------------------------------- > > > Hope this will help some of you folks who are doing searches in the New > > > England area, especially in the Conn River Valley area of VT,Mass,NH, > and > > > Conn. > > > --------------------------------------- > > > >From my own experience , the folks who migrated from Windham County in > Conn > > > settled Windham Co in Vt > > > > > > Many of the towns in Vt have the same names as towns in Mass and Conn > > > > > > Many of Worcester county area folks migrated to "western" part of > NH.....in > > > the towns of Cheshire and Sullivan counties........as well as Windsor > ,VT > > > ----------------- > > > If you are searching in the areas I listed above.....there is a book > called > > > " Collecting Vermont Ancestors" by Alice Eichholz,Ph.d, C.G. ; printed > > > by New Trails! in Monteplier,Vt 1993...........excellent book > > > > > > Cynthia > > > listowner > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Peter Vanderbrouk" <rpckvv@swbell.net> > > > > I have an ancestor, who from all census info.said he > > > > was born in VT. Guess what? He was b. in NH!!! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Becky McIntire <beckymac@neo.rr.com> > > > > > I don't know if you are addressing me, but my problem with my > > > > gggrandfather is > > > > > his enlistment papers for the War of 1812 says his birthplace was > CT. > > > > Everything > > > > > else including the census from 1850, marriage application, etc. all > say > > > > VT. I > > > > > have looked both places and still haven't found Joel Richardson. > Since > > > he > > > > served > > > > > as a soldier from VT. I assume that's where he was born, but I am > not > > > > sure. His > > > > > birth year would be 1796 or 1797. I am really not sure of anything > about > > > > him. > > > > > Any suggestions on where to look? > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Vanderbrouk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > <VT was once part of CT which may explain the discrepancy in his > > > > birthplace> > > > > > > > > > > > > are you certain of this? On Jan. 15, 1777, Vermont settlers > declared > > > > their > > > > > > territory an independent republic, naming it "New Connecticut". > In > > > > July, > > > > > > 1777, Vermont adopted its first constitution and its present name. > To > > > > my > > > > > > knowledge, Vermont was never part of CT. > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > > > List your sources when giving information > > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > http://www.quadrangle.org (Conn River Valley Gen.Library) > > > http://www.acpl.lib.in.us [Allen county library] > > > http://www.nehgs.org [New Eng His.Genealogical Society] > > > List owner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > > > > > ============================== > > > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > > > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > > Conn.River Valley Genealogical Research Library: http://www.quadrangle.org > (genealogical library for Conn River area) > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > > > http://www.nehgs.org New Eng.Hist.Genealogical Society > > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > > > ============================== > > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Conn.River Valley Genealogical Research Library: http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogical library for Conn River area) > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > http://www.nehgs.org New Eng.Hist.Genealogical Society > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ > Brought to you by RootsWeb.com.

John WARREN - mine through his daughter Elizabeth who married Benjamin Hills - love it! Julie EPTexian@aol.com wrote: > John CLOUGH, John WARREN, jnr, all FLAGGs, all BIGELOWs, Michael BARSTOW, > mine all mine ! Thank you for writing this out............ > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > (on first page,put in box: Ct-River-Valley > http://www.quadrangle.org (genealogical lib.for Ct-River-Valley area) > listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Genealogy calendars, guestbooks and more: > Visit RootsWeb's Resource Center at > http://resources.rootsweb.com/

Still looking...wondering if anyone's made progress on James Culver in particular: The earliest CULVER I have is James, presumed married to Mary WEAVER, (dau. of John?) lived in Tolland, CT until 1800 when they moved to Norwich, VT. Their 8 children were all presumably born in CT: James, Lyman, Elisha, Solomon, David, Einis, Pheby, and Polly. I descend thru Lyman (also recorded Simeon), b. 15 Oct 1789, Willington, Tolland, CT. He married Fanny HOVEY, 21 Nov 1811, in VT. I have scattered info on the HOVEY line back to Daniel, 1618 (could always use more!) Lyman and Fanny's son Isaac Hovey CULVER m. Emily J. HATCH, April 05, 1840, Williamstown, VT, dau. of Asa HATCH and Jane BLACK. I have scattered info on Hatch line back to Thomas and his son Jonathan of Falmouth, but have nothing on Jane Black, nor specifics on the migrations of these families. I'm hoping this line connects w/Colver/Culver of Mystic....any suggestions? I'd appreciate any info you could provide. Thanks! Researching in various locations: Barry, Bollinger, DeFlumeri, DePalma, DiPaolo, Ferriero, Gagliardi, Gutner, Hines, Johnn, Joyce, Lepore, Loungo, McCarthy, Scheidel, Scopa. Also researching: in New Brunswick, CAN: Hartshorn, Ibbetson (?), Muzzeroll, Nash, Walsh; in Quebec: Gagne, Gagnon, Lapointe in PEI, CAN: Bradley, Goodwin, Lawless, McCarthy, McMahon, Mulligan, O'Sullivan; in Ireland: Glynn, Hines,Minnihan, Murphy; in upstate NY: Charbonneau, Chatel, Lapointe in New England, colonial to present: Allen, Austin, Ayre, Barlow, Barker, Bateman, Blood, Brooks, Brown, Browne, Burbank, Buttrick, Carr, Cass, Carter, Chatel, Clark, Collins, Coxon, Culver, Daby, Dane, Eames (?), Emery, Evans, Farwell, Fields, Fitch, Foote, Foster, Frost, Fuller, Gage, Gagne, Gagnon, Gardner, Gawkroger (Platts), Gibson, Glynn, Goodwin, Greene, Harlow, Harris, Hartshorn, Hastings, Hatch, Hemingway, Hewes, Higgs, Hixon, Hixson, Hobbs, Hopkins, Hough (Howe), Hovey, Humphrie, Hyde, Ibbetson (?), Iyde, Joslin, Kimball, King, Knowlton, Lane, Lapointe, Larrabee, Lawless, Lee, Leete, Linton, Littlefield, Makepiece, Marlowe, Moore, Morse, Mousall, Nichols, Nutt, Page, Parkhurst, Partridge, Peirce, Pemberton, Pierce, Prescott, Prisse, Richards, Richardson, Robey (Roby), Rowley, Royal, Russell, Rust, Sawtell, Sawyer, Scott, Sharp, Shatswell, Sibley, Smith, Stanhope, Stearns, Stevens, Stewart, Tracy, Tucker, Turner, Upton, Wadd, Walker, Ward, Warner, Waters, Watkins, Weaver, Weeks, Wells, Wheeler, Whitcomb, White, Whotlocke, Wilder, Wyman. DJ Glynn in Boston DGlynn97@aol.com

Much land in the state was originally granted by either Vermont, New Hampshire, or New York; some were in competing claims. When Vermont declared itself independent in 1777, all land came under its jurisdiction. Consequently, there was no other way to obtain an initial grant of land except through the auspices of the legislature, which first granted the town to a group of individuals called proprietors. The proprietors then met, although not necessarily in the town or even in Vermont, devised a plan for dividing up the land, and drew lots to determine who owned which lots. From then on, that piece of land was identified in deeds (if the descriptions are detailed enough) as the “original right” of that proprietor. Original right is a term found often in deeds, often delineated as being the first, second, third, fourth, or sometimes fifth division right of the proprietor since not all of a town was divided up at one time. A division usually contained lots of equal acreage. For example, first division lots might be 100 acres, second division lots 50 acres. Some lots were set aside for the ministry, schools, and the governor to use at their discretion,though most of that was later sold in tax sales or leased by the town selectmen. Occasionally, towns were divided up in a grid of ranges and lots and would be identified, for example, as Lot #5 in 6th range. Once the general plan for numbering the lotwhether by divisions or ranges was made, land tended to be sold as portions of the lot such as south half of Lot #5. Metes and bounds descriptions were added later when land divisions did not fall neatly into portions of the original lot. Such metes and bounds descriptions often indicated names of roads, streams, or neighbors. The town is the primary legal jurisdiction for land records in Vermont. Consequently, original copies of land records are at the town clerk's office (see Town Resources). Each town has separate indexes for the grantees and grantors. Very few women owned land in their own right. They occasionally witnessed deeds but sometimes were asked to release their dower's right. A few land records were recorded by counties and are available at the county courthouse (see County [Probate] Resources), although they are primarily for those towns as noted in the Town Resources that have no formal organization. With no statewide master index or abstract of land records in the 251 towns, this valuable genealogical information has to be searched out town by town, but it can be done centrally with microfilm copies. Land records for towns whose records were extant in the 1940s had those deed books and indexes microfilmed from inception through 1850. They are available and at the Vermont Public Records Division, Route 2, Middlesex, Vermont (mailing address: State Administration Building, 133 State Street, Montpelier, Vermont 05633-7601) and through the FHL. Only a few towns had lost their land records in fires or floods by that time. The Vermont Public Records Division is always expanding its microfilm holdings of town records beyond those done in the 1940s, and its collection now includes many town records from 1850 to the present. These are not necessarily in the FHL microfilm collection. Probate Records were filed by probate district and not town, and probate districts do not strictly follow county lines. For Vermont's fourteen counties (see County [Probate] Resources), there have been twenty probate districts. One of those districts, New Haven, disbanded in 1962. By percentage, few Vermonters who died in the state have probate records filed. Many people disposed of their holdings to one or more children in land transactions before death. Probate records are only indexed by district. Neither a statewide index nor district-wide abstracts exist. District offices have indexes filed by decedent only. Microfilm indexes are available at Vermont Public Records Division (see Land Records) and the FHL. Unlike the land records, the Vermont Public Records Division has not extensively continued the microfilming program of probate records. With some exceptions, only the official probate proceedings books were microfilmed to about 1850. Much more information exists in the original probate files that are held in the district itself, along with the probate records after 1850. A complete probate search involves using all the files that are available in addition to the record books. Insolvent estates are not uncommon. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Federal Population Schedules. Indexed 1790 (1791), 1800, 1810, 1820, 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860 Soundex 1880, 1900, 1920 Unindexed 1870, 1910 Industry and Agriculture Schedules. 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880 Mortality Schedules. 1850, 1860, 1870, 1880 (all indexed) Union Veterans Schedules. 1890 (indexed) > >Because Vermont joined the union as the fourteenth state in 1791, it missed >the first federal census by one year. Although labeled 1790, the census was >actually taken one year later. Families in other states may be listed on >that state's 1790 census and again in Vermont's a year later, having >migrated in the interim. The Vermont Historical Society published the full >1800 census, which was reissued in a reprint edition in 1972 by >Genealogical Publishing Company. Countywide 1870 census heads-of-household >indexes for Windham and Windsor were privately published by Joan M. Morris >in seperate volumes (1977, 1980). The 1810 and 1820 censuses for some Vermont towns include a tally of such things as the number of yards of material made on the premises and the amount of lumber milled. When using the census records, care should be taken to consider alternate spelling, especially for French-Canadians, Italian, and Greek names of new immigrants after 1850. Original and microfilm copies of the 1850, 1860, 1870, and 1880 population, industry, and agriculture schedules and microfilm of the mortality schedules are located at Vermont Department of Libraries, State Office Building, 109 State Street, Montpelier, Vermont 05609-0601, although originals are restricted for general research purposes. The so-called 1771 Census by Jay Mack Holbrook (Oxford, Mass.: Holbrook Research, 1982) is not an official census. It is a collection of names associated with Vermont in 1771 drawn from several sources in New York, New Hampshire, and Connecticut as well as Vermont. Many of the names listed were granted land but never lived in Vermont. Checking the appearance of the name in the original source should help clarify this. Background Sources: Bassett, T. D. Seymour, ed. Vermont: A Bibliography of Its History. 1981. Reprint. Hanover, N.H.: University Press of New England, 1983. This comprehensive bibliography includes numerous local, state, and town histories, and commemorative publications. Montpelier, Vt.: New Trails!, 1986. A genealogical handbook focusing specifically on the availability of the extensive original records in Vermont. A listing of available lot maps for towns (see Maps) is included. Hemenway, Abby Maria. Vermont Historical Gazetteer. 5 vols. Burlington, Vt., and others, 1867–91. Hemenway enlisted the assistance of at least one knowledgeable resident of each town to research and write the histories included in these volumes. Since those people tended to know the individuals about whom they wrote, the information is reasonably good oral history. An index covering all towns except those in Windsor County was published in 1923 by Tuttle Company, in Rutland, Vermont, and indicates town as well as volume and page number for person named. Jones, Matt Bushnell. Vermont in the Making. Cambridge, Mass.: Harvard University Press, 1939. This is probably the most detailed and easy to read account of the Vermont land controversy and its role in the Revolution and formation of the United States. Lindberg, Marcia Wiswall. Genealogist's Handbook for New England Research. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1985. An essential guide for planning a research trip in Vermont, but because of its date of publication, call ahead to confirm hours, location, and record availability. O'Callaghan, E. B. Documentary History of the State of New York. 4 vols. Albany, N.Y.: Weed, Parson & Co., 1849–51. This work contains much history regarding the land controversy between New York and Vermont. Volume 4 contains a large number of Vermont-related document transcriptions. Vermonters are included in Holbrook, 1771 Census (see Census Records). Stilwell, Lewis Dayton. Migration from Vermont. Montpelier, Vt.: Vermont Historical Society, 1948. This is a superbly documented description, generally using secondary sources, of migration in and emigration from Vermont as it related to social and economic problems encountered by Vermonters through 1860. Swift, Esther Munroe. Vermont Place-Names: Footprints of History. Brattleboro, Vt.: Stephen Greene Press, 1977. Swift adeptly portrays the complicated history of Vermont's changing jurisdictions during the land controversy and gives fine descriptive accounts of thousands of place-names in Vermont, including Native American sources and surnames. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

What was recorded, with some exceptions, has been extracted from the originals in the towns and indexed in a central file held by the Vermont Public Records Division. All events indexed before 1980 can be found at the division's new facility on Route 2, Middlesex, Vermont (Exit 9 on Interstate 89). The mailing address is General Services Administration, Drawer 33, Montpelier, Vermont 05633-7601. No thorough survey has ever been taken to determine whether some towns' early vital records were inadvertently missed in the statewide index. It is known that Holland, Sheffield, Maidstone, and Troy vital records were not included, and some vital records from Burlington in the 1870s seem to be missing entirely. Anyone can search the microfilm at the Public Records Division, or a search can be requested by mail for a charge of $5 per event. This includes a certified copy of the microfilmed index card, if found, containing a reference for locating the original record in the individual town records. The microfilmed card index is broken down into eight time periods: 1760-1870; 1871 1908; 1909 1941; 1942 1954; 1955 1979; 1980; 1981; and 1982. Separate cards for births, marriages (both bride and groom), death, and cemetery records are in the index. Cemetery cards, however, appear only in the 1760 1870 microfilm grouping. The statewide index was created about 1919, and in the process, the state surveyed all the cemeteries in Vermont to record deaths before 1857, the year mandatory recording began. Generally, only those gravestones that were still standing in 1919 and mentioned deaths before 1857 were included in the survey. Microfilm copies of the first two time periods (1760–1870, 1871 1908) are additionally available at the New England Historic Genealogical Society (see page 9) and through the FHL. After 1857, many births were recorded before a child was named. Unnamed infants are listed in reverse chronological order in the front of that surname's listing in the card index. The index is filed in strict alphabetical order. Variants in spellings must be checked thoroughly. While the state issues a certified copy of the microfilmed index card as its official record, the original record in the town clerk's office, often recorded with other family vital records, may provide additional information helpful in research. Once the index card has been located with the reference for the original record, it is often important to obtain a copy of the event as it appears in its original form. The reference on the index card will indicate where to locate the event in the town's original records. Since a large majority of the town's original records are also on microfilm in the Public Records Division, microfilm copies of the originals can be researched there. Vermont's town records before 1850 are also on microfilm through the FHL, although the holdings are not as complete as at the Public Records Division. Vital records after 1982 are found at the Vital Records Office, 108 Cherry Street, P.O. Box 70, Burlington, Vermont 05841. Files are open to the public but accessed by a clerk. The cost, either in person or by mail, is presently $5 per event. At the Public Records Division, a separate statewide microfilm index to divorce decrees covers 1861–1968. The decree books themselves are also microfilmed and available there. Summary divorce papers from 1968 1979 are arranged alphabetically by surname in one group at the division. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Vermont had its beginnings in a land controversy. Near the middle of the eighteenth century, both Benning Wentworth, the colonial governor of New Hampshire, and Lt. Governor Cadwallader Colden, representing the colonial government of New York, claimed territory in what is now Vermont. Massachusetts claimed a small part along Vermont's southern border. Each government petitioned the king to validate their boundaries to include the disputed Vermont land. However, the process of petitioning did not stop either New Hampshire or New York from issuing grants for the same land to their own proprietors and the proprietors in turn selling the land to settlers. Settlers from lower New England and New York began to arrive in. The Grants,as they were called, in the 1760s. Previous residents of the land included a few French settlements in the northern part of the state, the remainder of the Native American population in the region after the French and Indian Wars, and some early New England settlers around Fort Dummer on the Connecticut River. By 1760, most of these settlers, with the exception of the remaining Abenaki tribe, had moved back to more populated areas in New England and Canada. Life for those settling “The Grants” consisted of clearing rock-laden forests. The settlers were also faced with the uncertainty as to whether the land they were homesteading was really theirs or belonged to someone else who also thought they had a legitimate claim. The Vermont land controversy between New York and New Hampshire about the grants was complicated by different types of land ownership practiced by the two colonial governments. Those who received grants from New York were generally from the upper classes and leased their land on a rental basis to others who farmed it for them. New Hampshire grants were generally given to middle class farmers and civic leaders, who in turn sold the land outright to those who settled it and farmed it. England settled the controversy in favor of New York in 1764 a decision unpopular with most Vermonters. This land controversy, the French and Indian War in the early 1750s, and the onset of the American Revolution kept the number of actual settlers coming into Vermont low. Vermont declared itself independent in 1777, not answerable to England or the governors of New York or New Hampshire. Vermont recognized the land grants made by New Hampshire only and began issuing grants of its own for land previously not claimed. Settlement began in earnest once the Revolution was concluded in 1783. At the same time, Vermont attempted, with a good deal of ambivalence according to some historians, to become part of the union, eventually achieving statehood in 1791. Initially, after statehood, population soared. Geography played a critical role in the state's settlement. The Green Mountains run north-south through the center of the state, leaving the rivers as the major east-west conduits for travel and dividing the state into mountainous areas and river valleys, flood plains, and rock-laden terrain. Lake Champlain, running along most of the state's western border provided means of western migration to New York and beyond. Today's roads generally follow the same migration trails as were cut during the settlement period. Small farms, nestled among the valleys and in the Lake Champlain region, and small industries using Vermont's forest resources constituted the major economic life of the state. Merino sheep and Morgan horses have also played their part in the attempt to create a reliable economy. Following the War of 1812 a series of economic and meteorologic calamities occurred, including the Year of No Summer(1816). A major migration of those leaving the state was the result. An influx of new settlers French-Canadians, Italians, and Irish among them during the mid-nineteenth century changed, somewhat, the population's ethnic constitution. Vermont contributed more per capita from its treasury and from its population of young men in the Civil War than any other state in the Union. Between the 1860s and the 1970s there was little population growth. In the twentieth century, a devastating flood in the central part of the state in 1927 and the national depression in the 1930s made it difficult for Vermont to recover economically. Tourism became a strong draw in the late twentieth century, with recreational industry and a desire to retreat from urban and suburban living as part of the impetus for new settlement today. The first settlers of Vermont carried on the early New England tradition of recording events at the town level. The vital records are incomplete before mandatory registration began in 1857. It is not uncommon to find an entire family recorded as a family group before 1820. In some cases, although the event was recorded in a particular town, it may have actually occurred in another town or state where the family previously resided. Not all the births were recorded, even for families that did report some. Marriages and deaths in the pre-1857 period were less likely to be recorded. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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Near the middle of the eighteenth century, both Benning Wentworth, the colonial governor of New Hampshire, and Lt. Governor Cadwallader Colden, representing the colonial government of New York, claimed territory in what is now Vermont. Massachusetts claimed a small part along Vermont's southern border. Each government petitioned the king to validate their boundaries to include the disputed Vermont land. However, the process of petitioning did not stop either New Hampshire or New York from issuing grants for the same land to their own proprietors and the proprietors in turn selling the land to settlers. Settlers from lower New England and New York began to arrive in “The Grants,” as they were called, in the 1760s. Previous residents of the and included a few French settlements in the northern part of the state, the remainder of the Native American population in the region after the French and Indian Wars, and some early New England settlers around Fort Dummer on the Connecticut River. By 1760, most of these settlers, with the exception of the remaining Abenaki tribe, had moved back to more populated areas in New England and Canada. Life for those settling “The Grants” consisted of clearing rock-laden forests. The settlers were also faced with the uncertainty as to whether the land they were homesteading was really theirs or belonged to someone else who also thought they had a legitimate claim. The Vermont land controversy between New York and New Hampshire about the grants was complicated by different types of land ownership practiced by the two colonial governments. Those who received grants from New York were generally from the upper classes and leased their land on a rental basis to others who farmed it for them. New Hampshire grants were generally given to middle class farmers and civic leaders, who in turn sold the land outright to those who settled it and farmed it. England settled the controversy in favor of New York in 1764—a decision unpopular with most Vermonters. This land controversy, the French and Indian War in the early 1750s, and the onset of the American Revolution kept the number of actual settlers coming into Vermont low. Vermont declared itself independent in 1777, not answerable to England or the governors of New York or New Hampshire. Vermont recognized the land grants made by New Hampshire only and began issuing grants of its own for land previously not claimed. Settlement began in earnest once the Revolution was concluded in 1783. At the same time, Vermont attempted, with a good deal of ambivalence according to some historians, to become part of the union, eventually achieving statehood in 1791. Initially, after statehood, population soared. Geography played a critical role in the state's settlement. The Green Mountains run north-south through the center of the state, leaving the rivers as the major east-west conduits for travel and dividing the state into mountainous areas and river valleys, flood plains, and rock-laden terrain. Lake Champlain, running along most of the state's western border provided means of western migration to New York and beyond. Today's roads generally follow the same migration trails as were cut during the settlement period. Small farms, nestled among the valleys and in the Lake Champlain region, and small industries using Vermont's forest resources constituted the major economic life of the state. Merino sheep and Morgan horses have also played their part in the attempt to create a reliable economy. Following the War of 1812 a series of economic and meteorologic calamities occurred, including the “Year of No Summer(1816). A major migration of those leaving the state was the result. An influx of new settlers French-Canadians, Italians, and Irish among them during the mid-nineteenth century changed, somewhat, the population's ethnic constitution. Vermont contributed more per capita from its treasury and from its population of young men in the Civil War than any other state in the Union. Between the 1860s and the 1970s there was little population growth. In the twentieth century, a devastating flood in the central part of the state in 1927 and the national depression in the 1930s made it difficult for Vermont to recover economically. Tourism became a strong draw in the late twentieth century, with recreational industry and a desire to retreat from urban and suburban living as part of the impetus for new settlement today. The first settlers of Vermont carried on the early New England tradition of recording events at the town level. The vital records are incomplete before mandatory registration began in 1857. It is not uncommon to find an entire family recorded as a family group before 1820. In some cases, although the event was recorded in a particular town, it may have actually occurred in another town or state where the family previously resided. Not all the births were recorded, even for families that did report some. Marriages and deaths in the pre-1857 period were less likely to be recorded. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------=_NextPart_000_5007_539d_4073--

Just interested inCt. alone. Looking for someone who might have known Frank Mcmahon born in Plainefield,Ct. in 1863died in R.I. in 1945

I found this record of a Richardson Family who lived in Corinith, Vermont. Caleb Richardson was one of the earliest settlers and it is not know whether they are related to later Richardson families who lived in Corinth. Nothing is known about them. They may have stayed for a time, then moved on in true pioneer fashion. Caleb and his wife Martha had 12 children: Alice, b 23 Mar 1778 Sarah Libby, b 14 Oct 1782 Caleb, Jr. b 24 Jun 1785 Martha, b 6 May 1787 Henry, b 20 May 1789 Polly, b 27 May 1791 John, b. 2 Jun 1793 Benjamin, b 27 Apr 1796 Catherine, b 8 Feb 1801 Chariety, b 25 Dec 1802 Lois, b 6 Feb 1805 Susan, b 15 Apr 1809 There was also a John Richardson who came from Andover, MA and established a cloth dressing mill at West Corinth about 1800 about 1800. There was also a James Richardson, son of Robert, was b. in Goffstown, NH on 9 Sept 1770, m there 1st Abigail Martin, 26 Sept 1793, She was b 17 Mar 1777 and d. in Orange, VT 9 Mar 1813. He married 2nd Mary McKeen Johnson. Children by first wife: Nathaniel, b in Goffstown Robert, b 9 May 1795 Goffstown Samuel, b 18 Jan 1797 in Chester, NH Betsy, b 7 Jan 1799 in Chester, NH Ira Day, b 15 Jan (or Jul) 1801, Orange, VT William B, b 20 Aug 1803, Orange, VT Jerusha, b 12 Sep 1806. Orange, VT Daniel Martin, b 24 Oct 1808, Orange, VT George Washington, b 13 Oct 1810, Orange, VT Children by second wife Henry, b 26 Oct 1817, Corinth, VT Abigail, b 8 Jan 1819, Corinth, VT Julia, b 27 Jan 1821, Corinth, VT James, b. 6 Apr 1823, Corinth, VT Hope this helps someone out there. Dot

Becky, Another place to search for VT ancestors who "disappear". Look in western NY state, and adjoining lands. This territory was freed up after the war of 1812 pushed the Indians West and North. Settlement in this region,was strongly encouraged at that time, land was free or very cheap, and many young men leaving the military following the war look this direction to make a home for themselves, and their families. I've found several lost people, from different family lines, in this area Good luck with your searching, Diane

See the correction- it wasn't CT but NH and NY. Becky McIntire's list of emigration info is VERY informative. Thanks Becky- it was the best summary I've seen. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lwsylvstr@aol.com> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 8:46 PM Subject: Re: [CRV] Grandfather in War 1812 > In a message dated 09/03/2000 2:24:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > annewellman@mindspring.com writes: > > << VT was once part of CT which may explain the discrepancy in his birthplace. > >> > Hi! Anne, > > I didn't know that. Is there a website that shows the New England states > boundaries over time? I've only been on this email list about a month and > have learned so much. Thanks for your time. > > Lynn > Georgia, USA > > > ==== CT-RIVER-VALLEY Mailing List ==== > Any misbehaving on this list will be warned --ONCE--no second chances.. > THIS WARNING ONLY APPEARS ONCE > Listowner: NewEnglander1621@msn.com > > ============================== > Search ALL of RootsWeb's mailing lists in real time. > RootsWeb's Personalized Mailing Lists: > http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >