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Warren Wetmore My hat's off to an intellegent lister. Please no more ridiculous politics from those who do know understand them. Jan

Fellow Listers, The phrase, I demand a recount was just a lead in phrase. I was not demanding a recount. Maureen p.s.Either side would have demanded a recount. It was a close race.

Fellow Listers, I apologize to the list. I did not realize that we could not have a quiet discussion about what is happening. I am sorry, Maureen

----- Original Message ----- From: <Ckirkfirst@aol.com> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 8:43 AM Subject: Re: [CRV] Re: [Ma-Bay-Colony] President? > I agree with you 100%. This is our country, the people, and we should all > stand TALL for what we believe. Everyone is talking about Bush > outnumbered(small numbers) in Florida. The fact is Gore before the counting > of Florida was over 300,000 votes ahead of Bush. Will this election be based > on what the people want or on the twist of the play? We as Americans should > recapture our spirit that we build this country on not a money game or > tricks. Oh, geez <bangs head on computer table>. Do try reading Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution -- algore's nationwide popular-vote plurality of 300,000 means *nothing* when it comes to electing a president. Only the electoral vote counts. http://deoxy.org/fz/consti.htm#2.1 as modified by the 12th and 20th Amendments. Follow the links for subsequent amendments that modify Article II, Section 1. Now, can we PLEASE get back to genealogy? No elections later than 1700! ********************************************************** Yrs aye, Warren Wetmore

I agree with you 100%. This is our country, the people, and we should all stand TALL for what we believe. Everyone is talking about Bush outnumbered(small numbers) in Florida. The fact is Gore before the counting of Florida was over 300,000 votes ahead of Bush. Will this election be based on what the people want or on the twist of the play? We as Americans should recapture our spirit that we build this country on not a money game or tricks.

Hi, I just have to say that I totally disagree with you, but you have a right to your opinion! I don't feel that using a mailing list to send everyone your thought on who should or shouldn't be President is right!!! If this happens again, I will unsubscribe. Thank you, Lynn

-----Original Message----- From: Maureen <abc@empire.net> To: MA-BAY-COLONY-L@rootsweb.com <MA-BAY-COLONY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 30, 2000 6:02 AM Subject: [Ma-Bay-Colony] President? >Feed Back please >I demand a recount!! >I think this presidential race was so close that neither side will give in. >We should let Al Gore become the next President. After all his family comes from a long line of people well groomed for the position. >He pretty much knows all the leading heads of state and countries because of being in the White House the last eight years. >He does want to do right by this country.Environment, Medical, by the people and for the people. >Actually I think President Clinton did such a wonderful job while in office. >I do not think his affair should have been brought into what he was doingFOR OUR COUNTRY. After all he was not elected a pope , priest, rabbi, minister, or GOD. >He should not have been judged on a MORAL issue in the public eye.This is DIRTY politics. >How many people do you know that are married that cheat on their spouses? >They do not lose their jobs because of it.They do not have to get up in the public eye and apologize to their fellow workers, or the world. >Do not get me wrong, I do not go along with someone who is morally wrong, BUT ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. >How many Prseidents that were in office had affairs. It was not disclosed until AFTER they left the Presidency. >We need to resolve this presidental race. >I think Al Gore IS the next President and DIRTY politics has taken over in the count!!! > If it can not be resolved then maybe Governor Bush should be made Vice President. > Or maybe because we are going into a new age, that we SHOULD leave President Clinton in office for the next four years. >He has done a lot of good for the people while he has been there. >We are not a weak country, but we might be looked at this way with all this dirty politics going on, i.e. the throwing away of votes from overseas,the punching of more than one (dimple?)while under Jebs watchful eye. Giving one area of electoral votes and then taking away another area. This is all DIRTY politics. The slandering of OUR president Clinton while still in office, because of a MORAL issue that only God should judge.If you would notice please, was it not a BUSH that was running against President Clinton. Now we have another member of the family attacking our next GOOD PRESIDENT. HELLO PEOPLE WAKE UP. >I would have voted for peace and prosperity. I do not believe in gambling our resources or putting them on the line, to try and make gain.You could lose ALL. >Everyone must know that Al Gore won this race, but because DIRTY politics took over, he is not in office. >And we all thought that DIRTY politics was cheating on your spouse in the public eye. >Please do not attack me, for what I write is the TRUTH. >We need to take a good look at why our next President Al Gore is not in office. > >Feed back please, but ONLY on LIST. >This is now a formal DEBATE. No fighting please, I just want to hear other views and opinions. >Our country was formed By the People and For the people. One Nation under GOD. > >God would NOT be acting like these people are with the lying and DIRTY politics. > >We have freedom of speech, but only if it is HEALTHY. > >Maureen > > >==== MA-BAY-COLONY Mailing List ==== >Connecticut River Valley area of Mass,Conn,NH,VT > Ct-River-Valley-L@rootsweb.com > >============================== >Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! >http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

maggie have 5th granddaughter named Bethaney Ann Green born 8:40pm nov 29

Hello, I am becoming more and more convinced that my Smith family was a part of the Baptist migration, from CT into NY and Mass. ---mid-1700's. Can anyone offer some good resources? I like to try and get books via inter-library loan. If anyone has any suggestions, I would really appreciate it. I would hope to find something with surnames. Thank you!!! Margaret in NV

Seeking information on Sarah DOUGLAS, m. 29 Jan 1700 at Saybrook, James POST (b. 14 Mar 1670/1 at Saybrook and d. 21 Sep 1735 at Westbrook). Sarah probably the Sarah DOUGLAS mentioned in the will of Alexander DOUGLAS of Hartford (will dated 8 Sep 1687). The above information from the New England Historical and Genealogical Register, July 1992, "The Colonial Post Family of Saybrook and Hebron, Connecticut: Abraham Post and his Descendants." SSMc

by Laura Chase Smith, Dutton Press, 1903 Chapter XVII The New Bishop At Work To quote again from the "Reminiscences". the Bishop says: "With what mingled emotions of fear, hope and joy I set off for Ohio from Philadelphia on horseback, as I came, is quite impossible to tell. I remember the cold, the piercing wind, the snow and the slippery roads up and down the Alleghenies. My horse became so strained that I was obliged to buy another, fresh and young. With this faithful animal I kept pace with the stage coach, then passing to Greensburg, not far from Pittsburgh." But to what did the Bishop return?? On the 3d day of March, 1819, he arrived at his home in Worthington, Ohio. His young wife was in her early grave. He was the Bishop of a great diocese in extent, without salary and with practically so few clergy as to make the cause of the Church almost hopeless, five only in number, a vast emigration rushing in to buy the fertile land, ...................What was he to do? An affecting circumstance occurred previous to his journey to Philadelphia, which was the means of bringing great comfort to the home at Worthington. A niece of Mr. Chase, a young widow, who had recently emigrated from Vermont, and soon after lost her husband, came to her uncle's home with her little daughter. Welcome indeed at the time was her presence to the lonely man; and ever, until the Bishop's death, did this lovely woman remain faithful, tender, loving friend of himself and his children, a character as marked as his own devotion to the Church of her love. It was she who welcomed the Bishop when he returned from his consecration to his home, and who cared for his infant son in his absence, and, as he long after said, became one of the chief instruments in founding both Kenyon and Jubilee. There are still some who remember "Aunt Lucia' well as the incarnation of loving-kindness........... After the Bishop's return, Mrs. Russell's presence was a great relief to him in his home, and he immediately arranged his domestic affairs, to enter entirely at his own charge upon his diocesan duty. He hired a trusty man to take charge of his farm, and went on his way, as in the early days of the Church, preaching, baptizing, administering confirmation and the Lord's Supper to many; and wherever he went a blessing seemed to follow him." ............... He believed in his work; it was to him the great and absorbing passion of his life. Nothing else was so important; everything else must give way to the needs of this one cause. .................. Thus in these early days of hardship and toil he became, as has been truly said of him. "one of the makers of our country." .................. .............. During the early visitation St. Paul's Church, Steubenville, Ohio, was organized. The destitute churchmen in Virginia across the river were visited, and a parish at Wheeling was formed. The first diocesan journey over, the Bishop returned to his home to meet clergy in convention for the first time as their Bishop. He was welcomed to his diocese with words of loving kindness which not only touched his heart, but cheered and encouraged hi his hopes. A part of this address is as follows: "With no ordinary feelings, Right Reverend and dear sir, do we advert to the present situation of the Church in the West. It is a rose planted in the wilderness, may it be watered with the dews of Heaven; may it be nourished by the continued blessing of Him who is the foundation of goodness, until it blooms in beauty and perfection." To which the Bishop replied in kind, touching with much earnestness upon the subject so near to his heart, --- the need of more laborers in the field ready and willing to go forth, giving of their best to the great work so urgently needed. Immediately after this convention at Worthington, Benjamin Birge, of Lexington, Kentucky, was admitted to the holy order of deacons, and the same day seventy-nine persons were confirmed by the Rt. Rev. Bishop Chase. This was the convention of 1819, after which the Bishop divided his time among his domestic, parochial, and diocesan duties. ................................. The Rev. E. Searles held a position at the north, embracing more than a hundred miles in circumference. The Rev. Samuel Johnston was in the south, residing in Cincinnati. The Rev. Mr. Doddridge, of Virginia, officiated a part of the time in the eastern counties of Ohio. The Rev. Intrepid Morse ********(Bishop's nephew, son of Abigail (Chase) and John Morse), now admitted to priest's orders, took the town of Zanesville, the newly formed parish of Steubenville and several other places as missionary ground under his care. ............................ In this year 1819, Bishop Chase was married to Sophia May Ingraham, daughter of Duncan and Susanna Ingraham, of Philadelphia. Mrs. Chase was a sister of Mrs. Leonard Kip, the mother of Rt. Rev. Wm. Ingraham Kip, the first Bishop of California; she was also the sister of Mrs. Sparrow, the wife of the Rev. Professor Sparrow of Kenyon, afterward of Alexandria. A curious incident occurred in the same year; Jack, the negro, who slipped away from his comfortable home with Mr. and Mrs. Chase, while they lived in New Orleans, is the hero of an interesting episode in the bishop's history. As before stated, Jack had sailed away in the year 1807. In the year 1819, he returned to New Orleans, was identified, and was imprisoned to await the arrival of the legal powers, to be sold for the benefit of the master. At this juncture, Dr. Dow, the Bishop's old friend, apprised him of these facts, which put a new face upon an old picture. As much as he needed money, the Bishop would never consent to sell the unfaithful Jack but wrote immediately to Dr. Dow and other friends to emancipate Jack and let him go whither he wished, provided he would pay his prison fees and costs of suit. The reason why Jack's story is again referred to will be revealed later, when he became an important person, though only a poor faith less servant; for he proved an instrument in the hand of Providence of rescuing the Bishop of Ohio from great distress in London. End Chapter XVII Harriet M. Chase hatchase@uswest.net

Hello Listers, I am a new subscriber and I hope someone on this list may be able to help with the most difficult of all names, as seen in the subject line. My 3xgrandfather, was John Smith, b. ca 1769, in NY (1850 census). He married 1st Mindwell/Minewell WADHAMS, 2nd Sophia (CHAPMAN) CROCKER, d. Mar. 1852 He lived in Hancock and Williamstown, Berkshire Co. MA and is interred with both wifes in Mott Cemetery, Lebanon Springs, NY. John and Mindwell had four sons (no children by second marriage). 1. William wife unk 2. Sylvester (my line) m. Aurelia/Amelia SMALLEY 3. Enos m. Charlotte SHUMWAY 4. David, m. 1st Catherine THOMPSON, 2nd Polly SQUIRES His will which is very faded indicates that he had at least one brother George. I am very interested in learning about John's parents and other siblings. The family was Baptist and I suspect they were part of the Baptist migration from CT. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated and of course, I would be happy to share any information and sources I may have. Thank you! Margaret in NV

Dear Researchers of the Connecticut River Valley Mailing List, with Special Thanks to Fred Jones, First of all, I would like to thank researcher Frank Jones for his insightful response to my query regarding a native of Georgia, born about 1839, migrating to Hartford County, Connecticut by 1858. The Civil War and its prelude did cause many families to move, for a number of reasons. Thank you, Mr. Jones. Second, I have done some more digging and have found a couple more details on this issue of Southerners migrating to Suffield, Connecticut. Another Georgia native was living in Suffield, Connecticut, at least in 1850. His name was Arthur B. GRAVES/GREEVES, who was 14 years old in the 1850 Census of Suffield, Hartford County, Connecticut, page 120. Arthur GRAVES was living in dwellinghouse 495, the home of Reverend Dwight IVES, who was the minister of the Second Baptist Church of Suffield (from 1839 to 1874). Why was a young man who was born in Georgia living in a Baptist minister's home in Suffield, Connecticut in 1850? A possible answer lies in the Connecticut Baptist Literary Institution, in Suffield, which was founded in 1833. In 1835, the name was changed to the Connecticut Literary Institute. Arthur GRAVES may have been a student at the Institute. Add to this, that four houses from Reverend Dwight IVES lived a nine-year-old girl Henrietta CASE, who was born in Tennessee. And, not far from this house lived Ann JONES, nine years old, born in Alabama. There was at least one more Baptist clergyman in Suffield in 1850. He was Reverend Thomas R./B. PALMER, age 34, born in CT, residing in dwellinghouse 498, three houses from Reverend Dwight IVES. If anyone has more information on the Connecticut (Baptist) Literary Institute, or would like to discuss any of the people mentioned in this post, please don't hesitate. Thanks! Randal W. Cooper

In a message dated 11/27/00 1:36:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, WebMerlin@Megsinet.net writes: << They couldn't have known it at the time, but CT -> KY was out of the frying pan and into the fire. Kentucky became the scene of bitter guerilla warfare in which many innocent civilians were killed. >> Hi Warren, My goodness....how sad, huh? I REALLY wish I hadn't daydreamed my way through high-school American History! There seems to be a wealth of information I missed. Thanks for your post as well..... Annie

It certainly was helpful and provided many clues!!!!!!! Many thanks, Charlie <snip> >Charlie, >Here's a clue...see #5 Cynthia... >History of Hartford, Vermont >Page 445 <snip> >Hope it helps.... >Cherryl _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

Everyone that has requested a lookup - I will try to fit them in to my schedule but it may be sometime (a few days) before I respond. I monitor several lists and do lookups for several sites...not to mention, work, family, my own research, etc... Well, you all know the drill. None-the-less, I would like to help you all but will probably not have time until this weekend. Cherryl

by Laura Chase smith, Dutton Press, 1903 Chapter XVI Labor and Sorrow Of this time, the fall of the year 1817, Mr. Chase says: "The declining health of Mrs. Chase was the subject of the deepest solicitude and incessant watchfulness, which, joined to the care of building and furnishing a comfortable home for my family during the coming winter, caused the circle of my duties as missionary to be somewhat confined. Worthington was given half my services, and Delaware and Berksire each its portion. In these alone I baptized more than one hundred, and before winter the communicants had increased from a very few to sixty-five." On the 5th of January, 1818, there was holden, according to previous notice, a Convention of the Protestant Episcopal Church at Columbus, Ohio, nearly in the centre of the state. It consisted of two clergymen in full orders and nine delegates only; and though few in number, they proceeded with the order and regularity required in the most numerous assemblies. They had met together in the name of the Lord and His blessing they implored. A President and Secretary were appointed, and the following resolution was unanimously adopted previously to all other business. "Resolved: that we, the members of the Convention, are in communion with the Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States of America, and also that we do unanimously adopt the general constitution and canons of said Church." At this convention. a diocesan constitution was adopted, a report made on the state of the Church, and a committee of respectable persons appointed, whose duty it should be to raise means for the support of a bishop. At the close of the proceedings of the convention, is the following record: "Resolved: That the members of this Convention view with lively emotions of pleasure the flourishing, though infant state of our Church in Ohio, and that the committee earnestly recommends to the several parishes in the state that each send at least one delegate to the convention to meet in Worthington on the first Monday in June. Philander Chase, President of Convention "David Prince, Secretary" This was indeed the day of small things, as shown in the above Convention, but the spirit of its members, its unanimity, its hopefulness promised well for what has been accomplished in the Church of the Living God, since this event, now eighty-four years in the past. In the mind of the dear wife and loving mother, whose year of life with her husband , in this new land, was now drawing to a close, this meeting of the small number of churchmen was in reality the planting of a standard in this Western world, which would gather the soldiers of the Cross to contend for the "faith once delivered to the Saints" to the end of the world. To quote from the "Reminiscences": "To her eye it was like the cloud arising from the sea betokening abundance of rain in spiritual showers upon a dry and parched land. All therefore who were present at this convention were treated by her with the utmost respect, as instruments in God's hands of planting the Church; she honored them and gave them all the attention, personally, her feeble frame would permit." >From that time she failed; her prayers that she might be spared the agony of losing her dear son were granted. Not in the way her friends would have chosen. She went on her way to the world of light to the will of God, blessing her husband and children with her last breath when, on the fifth day of May, 1818, she found her rest. A little less than a year ago, she had left her dear home in Hartford, where her life had been surrounded by the loving presence of congenial friends, and where her sons now in college could spend their holiday with her. This happy circle was now broken, her first born son who had been kissed for the last time on the day she left, she never saw again; and her son at Harvard, the beloved Philander, also never meet his mother again in this life. Within a few years these beautiful boys too had passed beyond. The little son Dudley, who could not feel his loss, was alone left of those whom she had loved, and for whose welfare her life had been one continual prayer. There were other friends, dear brother and sisters in Vermont, who all would have ministered to her comfort, and who by the stern necessities of life were deprived of this privilege. And thus this beloved woman died, and was buried under the chancel window of the new church at Worthington. Her prayer was answered that she might never be called upon to find a second home, or to endure the sorrow of parting again from those she loved. The tablet to the memory of Mary Chase, in the church at Worthington, bears the inscription: SACRED TOO THE MEMORY OF MARY CHASE. FIRST WIFE OF THE FIRST BISHOP OF OHIO PHILANDER CHASE, SEN. D.D. AND DAUGHTER OF DANIEL AND MARY FAY BORN AT BETHEL, VERMONT, 1779 MARRIED JULY 19TH, 1796 DIED MAY 5TH, 1818. ............... To the husband and father, there was little time for the luxury of sorrow, stern realities were before him. The strong man buried his dead, cared for his infant son as best he could, and faced the facts of his almost hopeless condition. The Convention, called for the Primary meeting in Columbus, was close at hand, and it met at Worthington on June 3, 1818, not a month since Mrs. Chase's death. At this meeting Mr. Chase was elected to the bishopric of the Diocese of Ohio. Proper notices of this event were sent to the standing committees of the various dioceses, and the Bishop-elect started off for his consecration <on horseback> at Philadelphia. And now comes one of the most inexplicable and malicious, almost diabolical events, which cannot even now be accounted for, except by the agency of some evil spirit from the nether world. It is difficult to imagine a man or men bad enough to give harbor to such evil thoughts against an innocent man whose life and work distinctly gave the lie to the infamous story. Upon his arrival at Baltimore, Bishop Kemp informed Bishop Chase that there was opposition to his consecration as bishop. What rendered the matter peculiarly distressing was that the Standing Committee refused to act on this case, except by withholding their consents. Bishop White observed that if there were a majority of the standing committees in other dioceses beside Pennsylvania, the consecration might take place, but in that case he should decline being one of those who would join in the consecration. To this Mr. Chase replied that he himself, would never think of proceeding a step in pursuit of consecration until all were satisfied of its lawfulness and propriety; yea more, he would think it his duty to cease from preaching and ministering in holy things altogether; for, understanding that the objections affected his moral character, it was obvious that, if true, they unfitted him for the discharge of his duties as presbyter, as they did for those of bishop To meet the objections, therefore, was both his wish and his indispensable duty. "Then, " said Mr. Chase, " I request a meeting of the General Convention, and stand pledged that the Diocese of Ohio will demand the same; for it seems unreasonable that a Bishop-elect of any diocese should, by reason of agitation affecting his character, be sacrificed for want of a proper tribunal before whom he can meet his accusers and repel their charges." The justice of this position was obvious. The Standing Committee took the matter in hand, and after due investigation, all was found satisfy actory by the board. Bishop White was present at every meeting, and when all was brought to a close, that venerable prelate was heard to say he was "satisfied that the gentleman who had opposed the consecration of the Bishop-elect of Ohio would do well to consider if, upon a similar charge, their own lives would bear a like investigation." And thus, without even naming his assailants, Mr. Chase records the fact that this shameful scheme to ruin the life of a true man came to an ignominious end. He also remarks, apropos, of this defeated plot, that he is "grateful to a Divine Providence that there are some now living who can bear witness to the truth of this statement." This event occurred more than eighty years ago; now, of course, there is no man living who can fully explain the true inwardness of this plot,so cunningly prepared and which so nearly succeeded, -- the courage of its victim alone preventing its accomplishment. As was stated in a previous chapter, the foundation of this incredibly malicious effort to destroy the Bishop of Ohio was the fact that, at the request of a respectable gentleman of New Orleans, Mr. Chase, then a resident, admitted two sick negros taken from a slave ship into the servants quarters of his home as an act of mercy. The gentleman to whom the cargo was consigned was evidently not a monster of a cruelty, but a man of conscience enough to care for the comfort of two wretched human beings, utterly helpless and without friends. Mr. Chase was requested to give shelter to these poor wretches in their extremity, to which request he acceded. After weeks of suffering, cared for by the family, one of the men died and the other recovered. This is all the accusation brought forward, so far as known, against the bishop-elect of Ohio, to prevent his consecration. One can only wonder how such a base transaction could have been so far successful that even Bishop White had evidently pre-judged the matter and practically decided against the Bishop-elect, until the latter brought home to him the obvious injustice of the scheme, when Bishop White could not but consent to give Mr. Chase the opportunity to refute the charges brought against him. In the end Mr. Chase simply refers to it in these words: "To an ardent mind, thus assailed in a strange city, with few or no acquaintances and far from home, the delay of nearly four months required to answer the most futile and malicious accusations was long and painful." And then he goes on to say what few men could say under such galling circumstances: "But I am thankful it was then so ordered, for it taught me patience, and by the grace of God, qualified me for far greater trials which were in store for me." On the 11th of February, 1819, the concentration of the Bishop-elect of Ohio took place in the city of Philadelphia, by the Rt. Rev. William White, D.D.; Bishops Hobart of new York, Kemp of Maryland, and Croes of New Jersey, being present and assisting. The Rev. Dr. Beasley preached the consecration sermon, in St. James's Church. In connection with this simple record of little known events, which will never be fully explained, we find the following affecting words written long after; "blessed be the Hand that covered the events of the future and the suffering afterward endured in Ohio. One opposition by God's grace had been overcome; yet the fact of its being of an unrighteous and cruel character, groundless as well, and evidently at every step of danger, and the necessity of unremitting prayer and vigilance." At this time, eighty-four years ago, the gentle wife and mother had gone to her early grave only a few months previous. Even now one may be thankful that she at least was spared this trial, which was borne in such spirit by the lonely man, who very human as he was, able to overcome all his enemies by that faith which sustained him unto death. End Chapter XVI Harriet M. Chase hatchase@uswest.net

Cheryl - Just like Harriet Chase, I have the same reasons for wanting to know more about families who at one time lived in Hartford, Windsor County, Vermont. They are: Alger, Dewey, Powell, Richardson, Tilden, Woodward. Thank you, Charlie Anderson <snip> >I access the book via genealogylibrary.com a paid subscription service. >If you send me a few names I will look them up as I have time. >Cherryl <snip> >Cheryl >could you please tell me as to the availability of the book on History of >Hartford ,Vermont, which you referenced. There are just too, too many >in-laws of mine to let this go by, i.e. Hatch, Burton, Baxter, Dutton and >of >course interested in any Norwich names. >thank you >Harriet Chase hatchase@uswest.net _____________________________________________________________________________________ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

----- Original Message ----- From: <Arrowfreez@aol.com> To: <CT-RIVER-VALLEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [CRV] Charles H. COOPER's Wife Amelia, Born in Georgia: Residence Hamden,... > In a message dated 11/26/00 5:54:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, > bugler103@home.com writes: > > << A lot of the folks from the South who were > Northern sympathisers moved north to escape the rath of their neighbors, > just as the Southern sympathisers from the North moved South (A couple of my > ancestors did this in 1859 - Connecticut to Kentucky) There was a lot of > movement by families during this time so your Amelia and her family were > more than likely Northern sympathizers and moved to get away. >> > > Hi Fred! > How interesting! I never thought about that. I had kin move around then too, > and wondered why! It just hadn't occurred to me, and answers some > questions.....thanks for your post. > > Annie > upstate NY They couldn't have known it at the time, but CT -> KY was out of the frying pan and into the fire. Kentucky became the scene of bitter guerilla warfare in which many innocent civilians were killed. Yrs aye, Warren Wetmore