This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/65.3 Message Board Post: You will find information on your KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE family of Centre Co., PA and back to 1592 on the films of my KRUMREIN/KRUMRINE, etc. records made by the Family History Library (Mormon). There are six films in all and you have to go to any branch Mormon Libary and order the ones that you need for your line. These Films are Numbers 1597596 through 1597601. Your Stephen and his ancestors and information who they married are on the following numbers: 1597596: Index to names of KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE and their spouses 1597597: KRUMREIN Family in Germany - church records taking the line back to 1592 in what is now Germany 1597598-1597599: Georg Lenhart KRUMREIN's descendants 1597600: Last of Georg Lenhart KRUMREIN's descendants and beginning of Hans Michael KRUMREIN's descendants (including your Stephen) 1597601: Rest of Hans Michael KRUMREIN's descendants; other KRUMREIN immigrants to 1900; KRUMREIN research by States; KRUMREIN church records in this country. In addition to the above, Dr. Frank Kocher of State College, PA (prob. now retired as a professor at Penn State) wrote a small book on your Hans Michael KRUMREIN that you might find in a library somewhere. I don't have my copy now as I took it to Utah for the Mormons to film. I don't know if it's on film or not. Hope this helps.