This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/69 Message Board Post: Help! Am looking for information on Samuel & Dora Ann Anthony Crumrine. Children were: William,James,Charles, Gertrude,Norman,Emma,Jess. Trying to find out about Dora. Can anyone up there in Pa. help? Thanks, Linda

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crumrine Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/34.1.1 Message Board Post: I sent you a private reply, however was interested in pictures. Would you have a pic of Arvel and Letha that you could scan and send me? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, D.Rice

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/34.1 Message Board Post: I am responding to your message regarding seeking decendants of Arvel Crumrine. Arvel was my Grandfather, biologically my Great Grandfather. My father was adopted by his own grand parents Arvel and Letha. My father was born to Arvel and Letha's daughter Gereldine.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Weyer, Crumrine, Clickner, Williams, Ashton, Hooper, Lovejoy, Thomas, Beamer, Roberts Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/68 Message Board Post: I'm seeking information on Virgil Crumrine, who married Ellen Ida Walters in 1897. They had two daughters, Goldie Mae and Nora. Nora Crumrine is my grandmother. She married George Weyer. I can't find anything else beyond Virgil Mansfield Crumrine. Any help would be appreciated!! Thank you, Kimberly Paul

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/67.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I have nothing on the BUCHERT, etc. family...just on the CRUMRINEs. I found 82 different spellings of the KRUMREIN name in my research....and I'm sure that there are many more.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/18.26.27.46.48 Message Board Post: I too show Eva Marie's last name was Burkhard.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crumrine, Krumrein Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/64.1 Message Board Post: Delores M. Crumrine Fort Wayne Delores M. Crumrine, 78, of Fort Wayne, a member of Bethlehem Lutheran Church, died Tuesday, Oct. 9, 2001, at Lutheran Hospital. The Fort Wayne native was a homemaker. Surviving are daughters Joleen B. North of Gwinn, Mich., Darlene J. Rose of Roanoke and Doreen D. Rains of Puyallup, Wash.; a son, Russell B. Jr. of Fort Wayne; a sister, Evelyn Hedstrom of Fort Wayne; a brother, Donald Gebhard of Fort Wayne; 11 grandchildren; and 11 great-grandchildren. She was preceded in death by her husband, Russell B. Sr., and a daughter, Lisa A. Services are 10 a.m. Saturday at D.O. McComb& Sons Foster Park Funeral Home, 6301 Fairfield Ave., with calling from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. today. Burial will be at Greenlawn Memorial Park. Memorials are to Bethlehem Lutheran Church or Roanoke Brethren Church. Information provided by D.O. McComb& Sons Foster Park Funeral Home, 6301 Fairfield Ave., 426-9494.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Bushart, Bushert, Buzzard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/67.1.1.1 Message Board Post: My great-great grandmother was Mary Magdalena Crumrine, b. April 2,1795. Married Jacob Bushert (Bushart),Sr.Possibly recorded as Buzzard.Mary and Jacob lost two sons in the Civil War, my great-grandfather Samuel Bushart(note spelling) being their only remaining son.See various Crumrine spellings:Krumrine,Krumrein,Krummrein.Seeking information on parents of Jacob Bushert, Sr.,b. December 9,1795, probably Bucks Co., PAThanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/67.1.1 Message Board Post: I am so pleased to have this information. The family bible records her death as September 24, 1879 in Moultrie County, IL, as does the headstone at the Bethany Cemetery, Moultrie Co, IL where she is buried. I am confident of her husband's last name (spelled Bushert and Bushart), although earlier it was spelled Bushert, Bushart, Busart, Busshart, Bushcart, Buschert, Buschart (take your pick!!). They were the parents of 8 children. Thanks again for your information.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/67.1 Message Board Post: Your Mary Magdalena CRUMRINE was the dau. of Christian KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE and his 3rd wife, Maria Catharina SHOUP. M.M. was b. Anna Maria Magdalena CRUMRINE on 2 Apr 1795 and baptized on 28 Jun 1795 at the New Jerusalem Lutheran Church in Loudoun Co., VA. (from a LDS Microfilm of the church records) Sponsors at her baptism were Peter BELTZ and Maria Mag....(off edge of pg., but probably Magdalena). The record does not state whether Maria Mag.... was Peter's wife or not, but she may have been. Usually the records state if it is the wife...or give a last name for the woman (which was not done in this case). M. M. CRUMRINE's husband was reported to me as Jacob BUZZARD, but I see that you have it as BUSHERT/BUSHART which could be the correct one. M. M. and Jacob were md. on 29 Jul 1822 in Perry Co., OH (Somerset Co.) where her parents had migrated. (Marriage record found in the magazine OHIO RECORDS & PIONEER FAMILIES, Vol. XIII, No. 1, p. 29) The records that I received indicate that M.M. died sometime before 1832....is this correct? Hope this helps....Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/66.1 Message Board Post: Yes, your Joshua was the one who was in the Civil War. His records and pictures of him and his family are on FHL Microfilm #1597596 of the series of films on my KRUMRINE/ CRUMRINE records. These were shared with me years ago by Mattie and Anna Crumrine (now deceased) of Lawrence, Kansas. There are also a lot of records (census, family letters, etc.) for that family on this film.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/65.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No, I have not done any research on that spelling. I may have done some research into the Summit Co., OH records, but cannot remember. If I did, those records would probably be on the last microfilm with the other OHIO records. If I did do some research in that county, I probably would have picked up only the CRUMRINE spelling....but they might be related to your friend.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Krumrine, Phillips, Philips, Yearick, Runkle Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/65.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for all of your work and help. I do not mean to be a pest. I will find the LDS material when I have time - sometime. Another question - have you come across the surname "Krumroy" during your research. Specifically, in Summit County, Ohio. I am not certain of the time frame, but assume after 1850. We have a relative who insists that her family (grandmother, I think) used "Krumroy", instead of "Krumrine". I assume that it was just an Americanization of the original German - whether intentional or unintentional. Your thoughts? Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/67 Message Board Post: I'm looking for information on Mary Magdalena Crumrine born 1795 in Virginia; m Jacob Bushert (Bushart); died in Illinois. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Reply to email address: [email protected] I am a Crumrine descended from Georg (arrived Phila 1748). Jacob was one of his sons or grandsons, I'm not too clear on that at the moment. It's been a year since I last looked at any of this. Here is information from "A History of the Jefferson College Class of 1860" by Rev. James W. Wightman, D.D. (class historian), printed in 1911. Georg's grandson Boyd graduated from W&J in Washington, PA in 1860 then served in the Pennsylvania militia throughout the civil war, as quartermaster for the county, I believe. I would like to subscribe to the listserv with a new email address. I am using [email protected] After August 31 [email protected] won't work anymore. If someone could send me the site for subscribing I would be grateful. I would also like to find out more about the Crumrines in Reno, NV who have the jewelry & belt buckle company. "... In the office of the Secretary of the Commonwealth at Harrisburg are preserved the original lists of over thirty thousand German immigrants into Pennsylvania within the period 1727-1776... These lists are in Rupp's "Collection of Thirty Thousand German Immigrants," published some years ago and found also in Vol. 17, Second Series, of the "Pennsylvania Archives." ... In this collection of thirty thousand names there are but two "Krumreins."...And on September 5, 1748, "the ship 'Edinburgh,' James Russell, Master, from Rotterdam, last from Portsmouth," landed with one hundred and twenty-seven person. In this list of names is that of "George Lenhart Krumrein"... The Lutheran Church Registry at Dottingen, in Wurtemberg, Germany, shows that "Hans Michael Krumrein" was born in Yungholzhausen, between the rivers Rhine and the Necker, not far from Stuttgart, in Wurtemberg, on June 13, 1713... The same registry shows the name of "George Leonhardt Krumrein" as born at the same place on September 7, 1719, and after as a communicant for the last time in 1746, after which his name is no more to be found... There are records in the heart of Germany yet to be received, by which the family name "Krumrein" may be traced back to 1592. (Footnote) It will be interesting, at least to the descendants of Mr. Crumrine, to know that his genealogy, as far back as learned, is now shown by a table made up from the Parish Records of the Lutheran Church at Dottingen, in Wurtemberg, Germany, and certified by the pastor in charge; from which, beginning with Thomas Krumrein, born in 1592, and, adding his ancestry in America through the immigrant, his line is as follows: Thomas Krumrein, born at Yungholzhausen in 1592; had son Georg, born 1629; who had son Georg, born 1667; who had son Georg Philipp, born 1696; who had son Georg Leonhardt, born 1719, who, in 1748, emigrated to America and settled in Old Baltimore County, Md., and had a son Abraham, who had a son George, who had a son George and also a son Daniel, and one of Daniel's sons was our classmate, Boyd Crumrine. ...George Lenhart Krumrein settled in Baltimore County, Md., which then extended westward as far as York County, PA. And in the year 1800, George Crumrine, a son of Abraham, who was a son of George Lenhart, passed from Baltimore county, Md. near Melrose, now Carroll County, Md., over the Alleghanies [sic] into the valley of the Monongahela, and settled upon a farm on the east side of Plum Run, in East Bethlehem Township, Washington County, Pa. (The rest is about George Crumrine's descendants in Washington County.) There is another Crumrine cousin named Delores Rutherford who did so much research it filled a room of her house and she gave it all to the Mormon library. She sent me the file numbers for all of that material. She included photos of Georg Lenhart's original farm in Maryland and of Yungholzhausen in Germany. This is from Delores: >In my research, I found that my gr-grandfather and his [Boyd Crumrine Patterson] were brothers, both sons of George KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE who had gone to Wash. Co., PA about 1800-1801 from Baltimore/now Carroll Co., MD. His (and your) ancestor was George's son, Daniel, and mine was George's son, Abraham. >Boyd Crumrine left a wonderful legacy that got me going on this family. He was quite accurate, but I found that he misread old Georg KRUMRINE's will when I ordered a copy of it. [Old] Boyd read part of it as "my named children" (having named six of them), but I read it as "my nine children" and went about checking all of the probate records involved. I found that there were three other children by his who were underage when he died: Peter, George and Michael. Previous to this, Gale Crumrine (whose name and address I sent to you yesterday) had been unable to fit his Peter in to any CRUMRINE family. These probate records fit Peter and his brother Michael who had gone first to Greene Co., PA and then to Darke Co., OH in to our Georg's family. (Boyd Crumrine Patterson was the son of Boyd Crumrine's daughter Louise.) Here is Delores' information on the Mormon files: >You will find your CRUMRINE ancestry on Mormon Microfilm Nos. 1597596 through 1597601. The Index to the charts is on the first microfilm. These films will take you back to 1592 (all proven) for your CRUMRINE/KRUMREIN family and there is lots of biographical information on them (census, deeds, church records, etc.). For further information on the earliest generations of this family, see my two articles in THE PENNSYLVANIA GENEALOGICAL MAGAZINE: Volume XXXVI (36), No. 4 (1990) Volume 41, No. 4 (Fall/Winter 2000) Please write more about your family interest. I just love finding Crumrines past and present. We had a family reunion in June in Washington, my grandmother turned 100! Patricia Bishop (nee Crumrine)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crumrine, Young, Sittler Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/18.19.32.38.40 Message Board Post: I am a Crumrine cousin also. My g-grandmother was Abigail Crumrine, born in Darke Co. OH , 1864,to Jacob Crumrine and Nancy Young. I believe his father was also Jacob and was possibly married to a Susan ? Any info on the Jacobs? Thanks.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/66 Message Board Post: I am a descendant of the Crumrine line from Peter who was born in Baltimore Co. Md ca. 1774. He had a grandson, Joshua Crumrine (1834-1899) of Darke Co., OH and Pennville, IN. He md. Mary Catharina (or Christina?) HENNING (1835-1893) dau. of Johannes HENNING and his wf. Christina STOEBER. I found a listing for a Joshua Crumrine who served in the 69th Ohio Infantry for the Union during the Civil War. Is this the same Joshua? The Joshua in my line is the father of Delmar Franklin Crumrine, who is the father of Arvel B. Crumrine. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, D.Rice

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/65.1 Message Board Post: In 1989, the Family History Library in Utah (Mormon) filmed all of my KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE records gathered over a 24 year period. They included the family of Hans Michael KRUMREIN who immigrated to this country from Jungholzhausen in what is now Wuerrtemburg, Germany in 1732. There are six 35 mm. films (Nos. 1597596 through 1598601) of these records and they include family group charts, personal research into county records, a book on Hans Michael by Dr. Frank Kocher of State College, PA and the German church records proving Hans Michael's ancestry back to 1592 and much information on his descendants. Hans Michael's records (including those of his only son, Stephen, are mainly on Films #1597600 and #1597601 although his ancestral records are on 1597597. There are letters from descendants as well on these films. If there is a branch Mormon Library near you, you can order and read these films there. Good luck in your search.

Is anyone researching Crumrine in Centre County, PA.? I am looking for primary source material for the children of Stephen (1737-1812), Adam (1772-1845) and Frederick (1800-1878) for starters. Adam and Frederick were buried in Centre County. Thanks.

Hi, All the answers to your questions are on the Mormon Microfilm Nos. 1597596 through 1597601. You should order the first film to get the chart numbers of your ancestors and then you can order the ones that deal with them later. There is lots of biographical information on these films of my research from the mid-1960's onward. If you live near York, PA, you can see the originals (with the Index to them) in the York County Historical Society Library. Included are family letters and pictures that I received from my correspondents and all of my research into census, deeds, court, probate, histories, etc. on all of the families. Many of these records are on the individual charts to whom they pertain, but others are on the last film of the series along with those persons whom I could not place with their correct families. See my other message posted on this List today which tell you of the two articles that I have written on this family that have been published in the magazine of the Pennsylvania Genealogical Society. Another of my articles about the old KRUMREIN house in Carroll Co., MD appeared in the Carroll Co., MD Historical Society magazine the CARROLLTONIAN in their Dec., 1991 issue. Mrs. Clay's book is a great help for those CRUMRINEs who fit into her lineage and you will want to contact here for information on the book. You might also want to contact Gale D. Crumrine whose address I can give you if you contact me personally at my E-Mail address. He has written a number of books on this family. I don't have his E-Mail address, but perhaps someone else on this List can give it to you. For those of you who are descendants of Hans Michael KRUMREIN who came to this country in 1732 from Jungholzhausen, Wuerrtemberg in what is now Germany, there are records of him and his descendants also on those Mormon microfilms of my records....also of other KRUMREIN immigrants down to 1900 who came to this country. Please keep in mind that, when my records were filmed by the Family History Library in Utah, the whereabouts of our ancestor Georg Lenhardt KRUMREIN from 1748 to 1766 were not yet known and I was not willing to accept the immigrant of 1748 as our ancestor without that information. So those records do not accept that this was our ancestor. Then, in 1993, Nancy Knight of San Diego, CA (herself not a CRUMRINE descendant, but knowing that we were looking for earlier records of him and while searching for her German ancestor) found our Georg in New Jersey and told us about it. That solved the problem and so I wrote my second article for the PENNSYLVANIA GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY to bring everyone up-to-date on it. Because I no longer have my CRUMRINE records and cannot rely upon my memory to remember all of the persons therein, please do not write and ask me for information on your ancestor. A message to this List and to other CRUMRINE/KRUMRINE researchers and the microfilms described here will most likely answer your questions. Good hunting!!! Dolores