This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crumrine Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/82 Message Board Post: If anyone could assist further, what kind of culture was and is prevelant in the area of Jungholtzhausen where the Krumrein name is first found? What is/was their religion, what do the local people look like, how did they dress, what was/is the culture like, etc. Also, is the name thought to have originated in the 1500's or much earlier; or is that just the first Krumrein that appears on record? If there are earlier Krumrein's mentioned somewhere, what is the earliest mention? Is there a family motto or coat of arms or anything distinct about the early origins of the family? Thanks for the help so far, any more would be much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/81.4 Message Board Post: THE KRUMREIN-KRUMRINE-CRUMRINE HISTORY Thomas Krumrein (Spelled in German), means 'crooked Rhine', born in 1592 at Yungholzhausen, a town lying between the rivers Rhine and Necker, not far from the city of Stuttgart in Wurtenberg, Germany. He was twice married. First wife Apolionia, married Feb.12, 1622: Second wife Katherine Strecker, a widow whom he married on July 4, 1632. (No record of what happened to first wife). Died on Feb.3,1675. He had eight children, all by his first wife. 1. Ursula 2.Johannes, b.11.16.1632 d.03.31.1696 3.Anna 4.Urula 5.Barbara 6.Michael 7.George Krumrine b. 03.31.1632, d. 05.10.1703 m. 05.04.1658 to Margarete, d.07.01.1709. Six children.. 8. ?? No2. Johannes - son Michael b. 05.31.1674, d. 10.10.1724 s.Hans Michael b. 12.13.1713 at Yungholzhausen. Landed at Philadelphia, "The Ship Pennsylvania" - 09.11.1732. Lived in Phila. area until 1741, moved to Northampton Co., Pa. and finally into Center Co. Lots of descendants!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/81.3 Message Board Post: THE KRUMREIN-KRUMRINE-CRUMRINE HISTORY Thomas Krumrein (Spelled in German), means 'crooked Rhine', born in 1592 at Yungholzhausen, a town lying between the rivers Rhine and Necker, not far from the city of Stuttgart in Wurtenberg, Germany. He was twice married. First wife Apolionia, married Feb.12, 1622: Second wife Katherine Strecker, a widow whom he married on July 4, 1632. (No record of what happened to first wife). Died on Feb.3,1675. He had eight children, all by his first wife. 1. Ursula 2.Johannes, b.11.16.1632 d.03.31.1696 3.Anna 4.Urula 5.Barbara 6.Michael 7.George Krumrine b. 03.31.1632, d. 05.10.1703 m. 05.04.1658 to Margarete, d.07.01.1709. Six children 8. ?? No2. Johannes - son Michael b. 05.31.1674, d. 10.10.1724 s. Hans Michael b. 12.13.1713 at Yungholzhausen. Landed at Philadelphia, "The Ship Pennsylvania" - 09.11.1732. Lived in Phila. area until 1741, moved to Northampton Co., Pa. and finally into Center Co.Pa. Lots of descendants!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/81.1.1 Message Board Post: My research has led me to the same conclusion regarding the Krumrein origins along the Rhine. Perhaps the family originated along the Rhine to the West, and migrated to the area of Jungholtzhausen later. Could you describe the culture of Jungholtzhausen, like the religion, what kind of beers they drink (if any), what the people look like, etc. Thank You for your help.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/81.2 Message Board Post: I would like to add that I was told by the burghomeister of the town that the name JUNGHOLZHAUSEN means "young wood houses" and that those who settled there in the 16th Century had come from ALTHAUSEN to the north. ALTHAUSEN means "old wood houses". However, I have been unable to find the town of ALTHAUSEN in order to see if there are any extant church records there. Has anyone else?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/81 Message Board Post: My mother's maiden name is Crumrine, and I know it is of German origin, but I was wanting to know about the history of the name, like what it is supposed to mean in German, what part of Germany the name originates in, and the most ancient origin of the name. Any help on this would be much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/79.2 Message Board Post: Abraham and Judith (BERGER) KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE lived just about two miles south of the York Co., PA border into what is now Carroll Co., MD (was Baltimore Co. at that time). Abraham and his son George built a lovely quaried stone house near Melrose, MD. Abraham (b. 1753 in NJ) was the son of the immigrant Georg Lenhart KRUMREIN who arrived in Philadelphia in 1748 from Jungholzhausen, Wuerrtemberg, in what is now Germany but what, at that time, just a collection of Principalities under different rulers. The old church records in nearby Doettingen were obtained by Boyd Crumrine of Washington, PA in 1910 and these prove Georg's lineage back to 1592. Georg first went to Salem Co., NJ where he md. the widow Barbara RIDMAN in 1761. Her maiden name is unknown at this time, but it was not RIDMAN. Abraham and several other children were born there. In 1766, Georg purchased 225 acres of land in northern Baltimore Co., MD where he built a log cabin and lived out his days. About that time, or shortly before, Barbara died and Georg md. 2) Margaret (maiden name unknown at this time) and had three more children. Georg died in Balt. Co., MD in 1779 leaving a will, but his estate could not be settled until the youngest child was "of age". My KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE records were filmed by the Family History Library (Mormon) in the 1980's and there are six films of them. If there is one of their many branch libraries near you, you could go and order the pertinent films to read there and see more about your family. I have made a listing of what records on each film and, if you would send me your snail mail address (by private E-Mail), I will send the list to you. That way, you would know which films to order to get your complete CRUMRINE lineage. Of course, you would also have to give me your direct ancestry also so that I could indicate on the listing just which films you should order. Over the period of many years, I researched census, deed, probate, history, tax and many other records for most of the descendants of Georg and of his distant cousin Hans Michael and they are all on these films. Also included in these records is my correspondence with many CRUMRINE relatives and family researchers who shared their family information and research. This could put you in touch with others in your particular line. These films will give you lots of biographical information on your CRUMRINE ancestors. Good Luck with your search and have fun!!! Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CRUMRINE, BERGER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/79.1 Message Board Post: Were they from York County, Pennsylvania?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/1.3 Message Board Post: mY GRANDMOTHER WAS DAISY CRUMRINE FROM CARROLTIN, OHIO. SHE WAS MARRIED TO ROSS PALMER. DO YOU KNOW THEM. NINA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Phillips, Chorpening, Kirk, Crumrine Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/80 Message Board Post: Obituary for Pleasant A. Phillips Pleasant A. Phillips died at his home on Nova, Ohio Monday evening at 6:30 after an illness of several months. Mr. Phillips, the oldest son of George and Calista Chorpening Phillips, was born on September 4, 1880, in Oragne township. He spent most of his life in Nova, where as a young man he was associated with his brother Addison, in the lumber business. He was away from Nova for approximately ten years, during which time he was engaged in various occupations. At the time of his death he was an employee of the Perry-Fay Company in Elyria. On November 26, 1910 he was married to Amy Thorpe, who survives him. Also surviving are two daughters, Mrs. Christine Kirk of Montrose and Mrs. Charlene Crumrine of Ashland: One granddaughter Cheryl Anne Kirk: two brothers, Ernest L. of Akron and Chester A. of Nova: and a number of nieces and nephews. He was preceded in death by his parents, three sisters and one brother. Funeral services will be held at his home in Nova Thursday afternoon at 2 o'clock with Rev. M. L. Hartman officiating. Burial will me made in the Nova cemetery. Arrangements are in charge of the Fitch Funeral Home in New London. Friends and relatives may call at the late home at any time. The Ashland Times Gazette, Tuesday, March 6, 1951. Ashland County, Ohio. Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CRUMRINE, BERGER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/xdQ.2ACIB/79 Message Board Post: Please note my new email address. I am still researching the families related to Judith Berger and Abraham Crumrine of York County, Pennsylvania. Sue

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/78.1 Message Board Post: Your Richard CRUMRINE was probably the son of John Wesley CRUMRINE and his wife Ellen who were in the 1880 Census of Chase Co., KS with three children: Richard W. CRUMRINE, age 4, b. KS - son William H. CRUMRINE, age 3, b. KS - son Mary CRUMRINE, age 1, b. KS - dau. John W. CRUMRINE may be the following man.....(following is the same message that I posted on another List) I have found another John CRUMRINE, age 30 (b. OH) in Warren Co., IA in the 1860 Census. He is evidently the same man as the John W. CRUMRINE who md. Elizabeth PARRISH on 22 May 1859 in Warren Co., IA. They were md. by Walter Ashley, M.G.. In the 1860 Census, Elizabeth's age was 17 and she was b. in IN. This John CRUMRINE is under #UN-328 in the microfilm #1597601 of my KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE records as filmed by the Family History Library (Mormon). He may be the same man as I have also numbered UN-347 in these records. I used the "UN" to denote "Unplaced"----my numbering for those persons whose ancestry I had not determined as yet when these records were filmed. This John W. CRUMRINE of Warren Co., IA is also listed in the "Roster of Iowa Soldiers, War of Rebellion", Vol. III and he gave his age as 32 when he enlisted in 1862 and said he was b. in OH. I offer this is a possible place for further research on your John Wesley CRUMRINE although this may be a different man. Could your John W. CRUMRINE have been md. before he md. Ellen???? If you think that this may be your John W., you might check the 1870 Census of Warren Co., IA for him. If you find anything new, please post your results here.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/3.29.32.1.1 Message Board Post: Your Christi(a)na was no doubt named for Henry KRUMRINE's mother Christina who was living right next door to Henry in the 1850 Census and was age 73.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/3.29.32.1 Message Board Post: Judy, I went to the local genealogy library today and looked up the census for the Henry KRUMRINE who I've been saying all along to you that I thought was your Christiana's father. I checked the 1850 and 1860 Censuses of Centre Co., PA and found Henry KRUMRINE and his wife Susan(nah) in both censuses with their family. The 1850 Census has their dau. Christina as age 2 yrs. and the 1860 Census has that dau. called Christian, age 12, but calls her a "male" rather than a female....but she is a "female" in the 1850 Census. In order to be certain that this is your Christi(a)na, you should try to order a probate (will or other record) for this Henry KRUMRINE from Centre Co., PA. If he died there, there will be some record of his estate if he owned any land and did not deed it away before his death. I would be more comfortable with this placement for your Christi(a)na if we had some other record than the census to prove a connection between them. If this is Christi(a)na's parents, then we have the line back to 1592 in what is now Germany, but was then a collection of provinces each ruled by a different prince. If this is correct, then you should try to get to a branch Mormon Library where you can order and read all of the information that I have on your KRUMREIN (the way it was spelled in Germany) ancestors. The Frederick that you mentioned in your message was the brother of this Henry and I have their ancestry in the above microfilms back to 1592. They descend from Hans Michael KRUMREIN who came to this country in 1732. Good luck! Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/3.29.32 Message Board Post: Hi, Looking for a Krumrine/Crumrine family that came from Germany. Don't know their fathers name but sons were Frederick, William or Henry. One of them had a daughter by the name of either Catherine Christiana, of just Christiana? They were supposed to have located in PA. Would like birth records for Christiana, and or marriage records to Benjamin Franklin Phillips. I Thank you

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crumrine, Richard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/5519/xdQ.2ACIB/78 Message Board Post: I'm looking for the PARENTS of Richard Crumrine (my great grandfather) he was born Feb. 25, 1916. His parents are probably from Kansas.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/77.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dolores, Do you happen to have a listing for Valentine Crumrine m. Elizabeth Wilson. Beers says he was from East Bethlehem twp. Trying to find Wilson descendants to learn more on my ggrandfather George Kinder who married Elizabeth's sister, Esther . Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/77.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Mary, In checking my CRUMRINE records, I find the following for your family: Joseph CRUMRINE, was listed in the following censuses: 1860 - E. Bethlehem Twp., Washington Co., PA - Post Office: Bealsville - taken 4 August - p. 34 - Dwelling and Family #238: Joseph Crumrine, age 26 - laborer - b. PA Lanah Crumrine, age 25, b. MD 1870 Census - Blanchard Twp., Putnam Co., OH - Post Office: Gilboa - taken 17 Jun - p. 294a & b - Dwelling & Family #106: Joseph Crumrine, age 26 (should be 36) - b. PA L___h Crumrine, age 35, b. MD Henry D. Crumrine, age 9, b. PA Isah B. Crumrine, age 6, b. OH (this is Isaiah) 1880 Census - Blanchard Twp., Putnam Co., OH - p. 383D Joseph Crumrine, age 46, b. PA - farmer Lanah Crumrine, age 45, b. MD Henry D. Crumrine, age 19, b. PA Isaah B. Crumrine, age 16, b. OH (this is Isaiah) Some other records that I haven't verified as yet place this Joseph CRUMRINE (b. 1 Feb 1834 in Wash. Co., PA) )as the son of George CRUMRINE (1800-1864) and his wife Nancy GARBER of East Bethlehem Twp., Washington Co., PA and I have found that George and Nancy had a son named Joseph in the 1850 Census of that Twp. and Co. in PA who was age 16 in 1850. However, this Joseph CRUMRINE is said to have md. Sarah BOSTATER in Washington Co., PA on 6 Nov 1850. This contradicts the official information that I found in the Hancock Co., OH marriage records (Hancock Co., OH Marriage Records, Vol. 1, p. 201) that says they were md. there on the same date. Whether this is your Joseph CRUMRINE or not remains to be proven with other records. Perhaps the person who recorded Joseph's wife's name misread it for Sarah....that, too, remains to be proven. I don't know where the person who sent me the record that they were md. in PA got it. I can send her snailmail address to you if you'd like it and you could ask her about it. She sent it to me in the 1970's and I don't know if she is on the Internet now or not. Incidentally, there were other CRUMRINE families in Hancock Co., OH at the same time and my records state that they were also b. in PA. At any rate, this will give you (and me) something to work on to prove. You might order a copy of the old George's will (or probate record) from Wash. Co., PA to see if it states where his various children lived at the time of his death. If the will doesn't give that information, you would have to order the "settlement" document. I'll continued to work on this also, but will not be ordering the probate record for that George. If this George does prove to be your Joseph's father, then I have your line back to 1592 in what is now Germany. Let's hope that the records are there to prove it one way or another. Happy Holidays to you and your family!!! Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/77.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the reply. My father, Karl Henry Crumrine was born in 2-15 -1911 in Adrian, Oh. His parents were Minor Grover Crumrine and Bertha Ellen Meeker. Minor was born in 1888. His parents were Henry and Lottie Crumrine. Henry was born in 1863, His parents were Joseph and Lenah Crumrine. Joseph was born in 1834. That is as far back as I can go. I don't know where they lived except in Adrian, Oh. near Carey, Ohio. My dad moved to Tiffin, Ohio where I grew up. I appreciate your reply and will be thankful for any help you can give.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/xdQ.2ACIB/77.1 Message Board Post: Mary, I have so many KRUMREIN/KRUMRINE/CRUMRINE (etc.) names in my records that you will have to give me more information than you did for me to try to help you. What are the dates (b., d., m.) for your Karl and where did he live (town and State)? Do you have the names of his parents, wife, all of his children and his siblings? If so, what are they? Most of the people of that name here in this country are descendants of the KRUMREIN families of the area of Jungholzhausen (and nearby towns) in what is now Wuerrtemberg in Germany. But we would have to get more on your ancestry in order to say definitely that yours were from that area. Unless I have your line in my records, it will take some research to get all the generations of your family and find out where they came from.