This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: murraysd Surnames: Crump Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/700/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In several listed family trees, William Crump (b. 1771)is shown as being from the line- Thomas/Thome Crump (1603) & Elinor (b Alberbury Shropshire) Son Humphrey (1629) m Elinore Howlett (b Alberbury) Son Edward Crump (1675) m Sarah Baldwin (b Broseley, Shropshire) Son Jeremiah Crump (1708) m Mary Medlicott (b Broseley) Son Jeremiah Crump (1743) m Margaret Stanworth (b Wellington, Shropshire) Son William Crump (1771) m Phebe Bates? (b Wellington, Shropshire) There are many Crump records on FamilySearch.org (IGI, Ancestral files etc), and the line seems to be quite well documented in family trees. However, there appears to be a discrepency as William Crump is still alive in the 1841 census, yet for this William Crump the Ancestral File shows: William Crump b14 April 1771, Christchurch, Wellington, Shropshire; father Jeremiah Crump, Margaret Stanworth; but death 24 Sept 1830. If this is correct, he would not be in the 1841 census. In the 1841 census William is shown as resident in Trysull, Staffs, age 70, NOT born in the county (ie not born in Staffs- therefore could be born in Shropshire), with son John Crump (age 45) plus John's wife Sarah (age 45) and presumed grandchildren William (10), Benjamin (9), Phebe (7) and Hannah (5). Phebe is also the name of William's deceased wife, which fits in as Phebe the granddaughter is likely named after her grandmother Phebe Bates. The assumption is that the William Crump in the 1841 census is the one in the AF/IGI records and therefore the descendent of the Crumps of Alberbury going back to c1603. Could this William Crump in fact be another William- although there don't seem to be any others listed for about that date. The facts seem to fit except for the 'stated' date of death as 1830. Does anyone have an explanation or any more information? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.