This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jacki_Gray Surnames: Hilliard, Sapp, Crump, Patty, Jones, Vaulx Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.2.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, glad to hear from you, Are you a genealogist or just curious about family? Frequently, the latter leads to the former. I am a g-granddaughter of Elijah Crump & Mary Jane Jones Crump who lived in Callaway Co, MO. all their lives. Elijah was a son of John Crump, 11 Jun 1800--30 Jun 1852, & Anna Sapp Crump, 24 Sep 1805--08 Jan 1875. John's father was Joseph Crump, 03 Feb 1765--15 Feb 1836, married to Elizabeth Hilliard, 18 Dec 1763--1834. Joseph's father was another John Crump, 20 Sep 1728--?, & Martha Patty Crump, 1769. That John was a son of William Crump, abt.1700, married to Mercy/Marcy ?. William was a son of another William, abt 1680, married to a Sarah. Another William, abt.1652,& Susannah ?. Then another William, abt. 1632, married to Anne ?(possibly Vaulx or Valux) who probably were the immigrants of this line. Your Patrick Crump must have been my Elijah's Uncle...does that make us 2nd cousins...or something? All those names were recycled so much...it can get really confusing now, a 180 years later. Elijah also had a brother Patrick, (known to family as Uncle Pack) but his uncle was the only one married to a Sarah Sapp. Problem is...I can't find a Martha Jane Crump anywhere. If you can send some more family names and a few dates, I'll look for her again. You will probably get many replies to your post. If you get facts that seem to disprove what I am sending, would you please share them with me? I can verify most all of my information but I can be wrong too. If so, I need to know about it. Hope to hear from you soon, Jacki Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.