Fred Here is what I have Turner Crump b. 1741 d.c1799 KY m. Mary Halley John Crump b.1780 VA d. KY m.Mary I have court records From Montgomery Co. KY for John, Mary Halley, Turner and Bath Co. death records for Nancy Nancy Crump b.c1709 d.1852, Bath Co. KY m. Francis Tincher Martha Ann Tincher b.1828 d. c1900 m. Louis Hunt Thomas Hunt b.1876 d 1959 m. Anna Knox Lena Dale Knox b. 1903 d. 1996 m. John D. Stewart Vearl R. Stewart B 1931 Bourbon Co. KY ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi again. I tried to connect you with the Turner Crump descendants, but cannot. Please give me a little more info. Fred

Thanks to Ed & Fred This helps a lot, I am related to the Kent County through Turner Crump who died in KY, Clark or Fayette or Montgomery County. Turner was my GGGGGgrandfather. Thanks again ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hello, Vearle. Thanks for the response to my original message. Yes, John Dorman, with the help of some other researchers, has re-written his original genealogy. It appears that there were two William Crumps in early Virginia, and neither has been proven to be a son of Thomas and Elizabeth (Buck) Crump. One of these Williams left James City County, Va, and went to Lancaster county, Va., and then to Talbot Co, Md, where he died ca 1695. One of his sons, Robert Crump is said to have married twice, and produced a son, Robert, who went to Pittsylvania Co, Va, and resulted in the line that lived in Stokes Co, NC, then went to Franklin and Elbert counties, Ga circa 1805. This is said to be my line. The other William is said to have married Ann Vaulx, and remained in New Kent County, Va. I hope this is helpfull. Fred On Fri, 1 Jun 2007 15:30:40 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > I have recently noted that the latest version of "Adventures of Purse > and > Persons" has dropped William Crump b1629 as a descendant of Thomas > and Elizabeth > Buck Crump. I must have missed the reasons. Could someone > [please fill me > in briefly. Thank you. Vearl > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Fred

I have recently noted that the latest version of "Adventures of Purse and Persons" has dropped William Crump b1629 as a descendant of Thomas and Elizabeth Buck Crump. I must have missed the reasons. Could someone [please fill me in briefly. Thank you. Vearl ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Vearl, yes, I can help with that. Dorman made that reference to Thomas in the first or second edition of Adventurers, then even made reference to it in the third edition. It's the fourth edition that is important. 2002 I think. A lot has been learned over the past ten years or so. You will also note that under the heading of Thomas Crump in the fourth edition that he only references John Crump as son. Look at the section on Hannah Boyle in that same edition and that's where you will find one of the William Crumps. Back when the first edition or so came out, it was not realized that there were two contemporary William Crumps in VA ca. 1645 or so. But when the records of York, later New Kent County came out, it became clear that there were two. Neither has any ties to Sgt. Crump that can be found. It's not impossible that one or the other of the Williams was a son of Thomas, but much of that had come from Kinfolks II in 1935 by Harllee, who only assumed because of the dates that William was son of Thomas. This new information is from publications in the 1970's, and then Bill Gann and Bonnie Flythe in the 1990's pretty much proved that there were two Williams and that it was almost impossible for either of them to have been a son of Thomas. That William was son of Thomas was suggested by Harllee in 1935 when he assumed because John had patented land in James City County in 1654 and William patented land in James City in 1656 that they were brothers. However, close research of Thomas and John does not support that. No William is mentioned in any reference to Thomas or john anywhere. William of Lancaster, later Talbot County, MD married Frances Mountney (well documented), and William of York, later New Kent County married Anne (last name unknown", and also documented. The key was finding out that William and Anne and William and Frances had signed doucments in different places on the same day. Additionally, DNA testing of more than thirty Crumps from one or the other lines show that they are not related, yet related to each other in the two respective lines. Another error in Advententurers in editions one through three was that one of the Williams married Mary Spelman. Actually she married Nicholas Porques, a frenchman. It's taken us a long time to figure out who all three of Hannah Boyle's daughters married, but we think we have it right now. Short answer to your question, but you can be sure that a number of us serious Crump researchers have been looking at this very closely for at least ten years. I for one do not believe that Sgt. Thomas had a son William. Regards, Ed Crump in Louisiana ----- Original Message ----- From: <VRS1931@aol.com> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research >I have recently noted that the latest version of "Adventures of Purse and > Persons" has dropped William Crump b1629 as a descendant of Thomas and > Elizabeth > Buck Crump. I must have missed the reasons. Could someone [please fill > me > in briefly. Thank you. Vearl > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sandra. Thanks for the reply ! I was beginnng to think that we had folded our tent and left this service empty. Recently, I got two messages, one from Jeffrey, anf the other from Walker, both Crumps, informing me that they were ready to research their line. I answered, giving them some data, but other than a simple reply, nothing !! Any way, I am still researching all Crumps. Fred

To those interested. Rumors of my demise are incorrect. Are you a serious Crump family researcher ? fcrump@juno.com

Well, Fred, I hadn't heard that you left us, but I'm glad it's not true! And you know I'm a serious Crump researcher! Sandra Stephens -----Original Message----- From: crump-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:crump-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of fcrump@juno.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 10:55 AM To: Crump@rootsweb.com Subject: [CRUMP] Crump Research To those interested. Rumors of my demise are incorrect. Are you a serious Crump family researcher ? fcrump@juno.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wseone56 Surnames: CRUMP Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/220.226.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello: Thanks for your reply. This CRUMP is not one of my Ancestors. Thanks for replying. Mary Alice Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sebrooks811 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/220.226/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am in Raleigh,NC. I know of someone in Durham named L BROWN CRUMP who says she knew a Billy Crump in DC, if that may be of any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello fromAustralia .My GG Uncle, William Erskine CUNNING, married Emily CRUMP in Maryborough, Victoria, on 14 Feb 1898. Emild died in Perth in 1938. Is anyone researching this name?. Thank you. Cheers Bob

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Fred, I'm sorry that my reply didn't happen; I let that fall in a crack. Yes, I received and was able to open. Thank you so much for your help, Jeff On 5/1/07, fcrump@juno.com <fcrump@juno.com> wrote: > > I have been there as well, back in the 1990 s. The name "CROMPE" > was on a sign on the road down to Jamestowne. I probably have a picture. > > Jeffrey, I have not yet heard from you on the ancestor file that I sent. > Let me know soon if possible. > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been there as well, back in the 1990 s. The name "CROMPE" was on a sign on the road down to Jamestowne. I probably have a picture. Jeffrey, I have not yet heard from you on the ancestor file that I sent. Let me know soon if possible. Fred

When my family visited Jamestown in the summer of 1963, we saw the name Crump on one of the buildings. I believe it was on some kind of metal sign, rather small. At that time, none of the staff could give us any information on that. It has since become almost a family myth where we're not really sure this happened. I was eight at the time. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Does anyone have a picture of this? Do we (the collective we) know more about this person? Thanks, Jeff Crump On 4/30/07, Mike & Judy Lawler <jlawler@mchsi.com> wrote: > > Do we know anything new on the parents of William CRUMP (abt. 1629-abt > 1684) of York Co., (later Kent Co.) VA? With the upcoming Jamestown > anniversary celebration, I was wondering if we know where this CRUMP line > first landed in America, as well as the country of origin. > > Judy Lawler > Hart Co., KY > 9Gr-Granddaughter of William CRUMP of York Co, VA through his son Stephan > (abt 1655-1725). >

Judy, unfortunately not. Personally, I think both the 1640's Williams immigrated rather than being born in VA, but obviously cannot prove it. One almost surely came from England, and both may have, but is not impossible that one or the other of them came from Ireland. Someday we may be able to figure this out. Sorry I can't tell what you would like to hear. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike & Judy Lawler" <jlawler@mchsi.com> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: [CRUMP] William CRUMP of York Co., VA > Do we know anything new on the parents of William CRUMP (abt. 1629-abt > 1684) of York Co., (later Kent Co.) VA? With the upcoming Jamestown > anniversary celebration, I was wondering if we know where this CRUMP line > first landed in America, as well as the country of origin. > > Judy Lawler > Hart Co., KY > 9Gr-Granddaughter of William CRUMP of York Co, VA through his son Stephan > (abt 1655-1725). > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Do we know anything new on the parents of William CRUMP (abt. 1629-abt 1684) of York Co., (later Kent Co.) VA? With the upcoming Jamestown anniversary celebration, I was wondering if we know where this CRUMP line first landed in America, as well as the country of origin. Judy Lawler Hart Co., KY 9Gr-Granddaughter of William CRUMP of York Co, VA through his son Stephan (abt 1655-1725).

Hello Jeffrey, I found the following: 1930 US Census Takoma, Pierce County, Washington. @3911 North 19th St. Crump, Leonard W. Head, 28 yrs old, marrried @23, born Wash., father born Va., mother born La., Power engineer @ power and light Crump, Florence H. wife, 26 yrs old married @21, born Illinois, father & mother both born Canada. Crump, William W. son, 3 11/12, born Wash., father born Wash., mother born Illinois. Crump, James L. son, 2 4/12 1930 US Census Takoma, Pierce County, Wash. @1729 Prospect St Crump, Wade H. head, 60 married at age 29, born Va., father & mother born in Va., retail merchant, jeweler. Crump Nell, wife 54, married @ 23., born Louisianna, father born Illinois, mother born Ohio. 1900 US census Takoma, Pierce County, Wash. @ 405 North St Crump Wade Nov 1869 jeweler Crump Nellie July 1874 1880 US Census Cedar Mountain Township Culpepper, Va. Crump R. M. 62 Head Farmer He & both parents born in Virginia Crump, M.E. 52 Wife She & both parents born in Va. Crump L B. 2? (twenty something) son born in Va Crump Wade H. 10 son born in Va. Hope this is of some help. Good luck. Marilyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Good morning. An interesting inquiry. I have this line of Crumps, from Leonard Wade Crump, born circa 1900, back about six/seven generations, into New Kent Co, Va. contact me at the following address, directly: (fcrump@juno.com) fcrump On Sun, 15 Apr 2007 22:35:29 -0500 "Jeff Crump" <jcrump55@gmail.com> writes: > I'm Jeffrey Wade Crump. I'm just starting to look at my family and > this > seemed like a good place to start. > Jeffrey Wade Crump b.02/03/1955, son of > William Wade Crump b.04/09/1926, son of > Leonard Wade Crump b, 05/??/1901, son of > Wade Hampton Crump. > > That's about all I know. > > What are my next steps. Can anyone connect to this tree? > > Thanks, > Jeff > jcrump55@ gmail.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Fred