All of your comments have been noted !! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "firstknight" <firstknight@mchsi.com> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > Gee Ed, You are the only one ever to make a mistake on this web site. You > and Fred are the most caring and helpful "Crumps" on the site. You always > have helped any of us that ask. Perhaps Bob from the bigpond.net has not > availed himself of the free services you offer. I immediately assumed you > had hit the wrong key or some thing else,as soon as I saw it. > Keep us the good work you do, even if sometimes we get it 6 or 7 > times.....Ted Crump > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/838 - Release Date: 7/06/2007 > 2:21 PM > >

Hello to all, and wish to say that I appreciate your comments. I am an octogenerian, of course, but not yet deceased. Perhaps that is why I am still trying to help those who have helped me. Kind regards, Fred

I agree with everything Ted said. You have helped all of us at one time or another. This has to be someone new to this site and now he knows how much you are an asset for all. Carolyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Gee Ed, You are the only one ever to make a mistake on this web site. You and Fred are the most caring and helpful "Crumps" on the site. You always have helped any of us that ask. Perhaps Bob from the bigpond.net has not availed himself of the free services you offer. I immediately assumed you had hit the wrong key or some thing else,as soon as I saw it. Keep us the good work you do, even if sometimes we get it 6 or 7 times.....Ted Crump

I thought it was my server acting up again :) Alandra ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruby Wilson" <rubiedo432@yahoo.com> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > Amen to your last message. Wish I had a penny ever time I hit the send key > , only to have it getting stuck . Good job of sharing !!! > > firstknight <firstknight@mchsi.com> wrote: Gee Ed, You are the only one > ever to make a mistake on this web site. You > and Fred are the most caring and helpful "Crumps" on the site. You always > have helped any of us that ask. Perhaps Bob from the bigpond.net has not > availed himself of the free services you offer. I immediately assumed you > had hit the wrong key or some thing else,as soon as I saw it. > Keep us the good work you do, even if sometimes we get it 6 or 7 > times.....Ted Crump > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > --------------------------------- > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Amen to your last message. Wish I had a penny ever time I hit the send key , only to have it getting stuck . Good job of sharing !!! firstknight <firstknight@mchsi.com> wrote: Gee Ed, You are the only one ever to make a mistake on this web site. You and Fred are the most caring and helpful "Crumps" on the site. You always have helped any of us that ask. Perhaps Bob from the bigpond.net has not availed himself of the free services you offer. I immediately assumed you had hit the wrong key or some thing else,as soon as I saw it. Keep us the good work you do, even if sometimes we get it 6 or 7 times.....Ted Crump ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.

Bob, Fred, and many others. My apologizies. I am in California and not in my home state of Louisiana and this hotel computer is totally unfamiliar to me. I didn't realize that the messages were going out because it didn't appear so. You will not have this problem again from me. Ed > > From: "Bob Cunning" <rcun9703@bigpond.net.au> > Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 10:27:04 EDT > To: <crump@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > After receiving this message SEVEN TIMES I wonder why you sent it to the > list at all and not just privately to the person concerned ! > > Bob in Melbourne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> > To: <crump@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > > > Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot > > comment > > on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

After receiving this message SEVEN TIMES I wonder why you sent it to the list at all and not just privately to the person concerned ! Bob in Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot > comment > on these exchanges until I return. Ed >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred, as you know I am in California until next week. I really cannot comment on these exchanges until I return. Ed > > From: fcrump@juno.com > Date: 2007/06/05 Tue PM 04:36:09 EDT > To: crump@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research > > Hi Vearl. > > Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. > I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, > as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. > I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason > William Crump" !! > > As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" > was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this > line of Crumps. > > Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the > the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. > Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? > > Fred > > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > > Fred > > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > > this Nanc > > y and John. > > > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > > Montgomery > > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > > and > > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > > Mary > > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > > > MAYBE > > > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > > called Mary > > ?? > > > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > > were > > married in this time period. > > > > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Fred > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Fred Thanks for the info, I will keep looking and if I get more info and hope you will keep me on your list. As for the question about my name, there are no known connections to the Hardings. as far as I know,my mother made up the spelling, there was a Vearl Bailey in Bath county abut the same age as my parents but no connection is known.Thangs again, please keep in touch. Vearl ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi, Vearl. My brick wall has been my gg grandfather, Richard Crump. He was born in Virginia about August 1801 and married Nancy McCarty in Bath County Kentucky in 1823. Bath County was part of Montgomery County until 1811. Because of the proximity of the places and the dates in your info, I'm hoping you may have some clue that can jumpstart my search again. Richard and Nancy had a large family and lived in neighboring Nicholas County until his death shortly before the 1880 census. Would he fit anywhere in your tree? Thanks for any help! jd crump ----- Original Message ---- From: "crump-request@rootsweb.com" <crump-request@rootsweb.com> To: crump@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 6, 2007 2:03:06 AM Subject: CRUMP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 34 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Crump Research (VRS1931@aol.com) 2. Re: Crump Research (fcrump@juno.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT From: VRS1931@aol.com Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research To: crump@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <bed.10f3f322.3396e042@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Fred Sorry it took this long to reply. I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with this Nanc y and John. I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from Montgomery County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John and Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and Mary Crump: birthplace Virginia" MAYBE John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was called Mary ?? several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married were married in this time period. Hope this helps. Vearl ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 16:36:09 -0400 From: fcrump@juno.com Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Research To: crump@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070605.163611.2112.0.fcrump@juno.com> Content-Type: text/plain Hi Vearl. Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason William Crump" !! As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this line of Crumps. Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? Fred On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > Fred > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > this Nanc > y and John. > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > Montgomery > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > and > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > Mary > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > MAYBE > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > called Mary > ?? > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > were > married in this time period. > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Fred ------------------------------ To contact the CRUMP list administrator, send an email to CRUMP-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the CRUMP mailing list, send an email to CRUMP@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of CRUMP Digest, Vol 2, Issue 34 ************************************ ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

Hi Vearl. Thank you for the comments re John and ancestors. I am convinced that this is the same John, who married Elizabeth Byrd, as well as Malinda. Too bad they did not require full names back then. I have a great grandfather who had the full name of "Robert John Cason William Crump" !! As for Nancy, who married Francis Tincher, let me say that "Nancy" was a nickname for Ann, and Mary Ann is a common name for this line of Crumps. Another comment. Did you notice a "Verlinda Harding" in the the comments for William F. Crump ? It makes me think that your name. Vearl, might be a derivitive of that name. Any Hardings in your line ? Fred On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 11:50:26 EDT VRS1931@aol.com writes: > Fred > Sorry it took this long to reply. > > I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with > this Nanc > y and John. > > I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from > Montgomery > County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. > > 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John > and > Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. > > 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for > > "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and > Mary > Crump: birthplace Virginia" > > MAYBE > > John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was > called Mary > ?? > > several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married > were > married in this time period. > > > Hope this helps. Vearl > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Fred

Fred Sorry it took this long to reply. I think this is the same John. I have three documents dealing with this Nanc y and John. I. A prenup for Mary Crump and Smith King dated 12-9-1800 from Montgomery County Ky. Witness by John, Richard and Betsey Crump. 2. Settlement deed dated April 1811 and signed by among others John and Elizabeth Crump. Apparently from Turner Crump estate. 3. Kentucky Historical Society archives death records for "Tincher, Nancy Aged 48 d.Sept. 13, 1853: Marred: parents Jno. and Mary Crump: birthplace Virginia" MAYBE John was married to a Mary first or for some reason Malinda was called Mary ?? several other John Crump and Reuben Hunt descendants were married were married in this time period. Hope this helps. Vearl ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Vearl. I remember this problem with Nancy and Trancis Tincher now. I have never been able to resolve it however. I am attaching a FGS on John Crump, son of Turner and Mary Crump. If you can, verify that I have the right man. Also read the comments about children under Elizabeth Byrd, one of John's wives. I am beginning to think I am wrong about his two marriages. Any proof that you have about the marriage of Mr Tincher and Nancy would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Fred 3 Jun 2007 Family Group Sheet Husband: JOHN CRUMP Born: 23 JAN 1783 in: FAIRFAX CO VA Died: 1850-1860 in: KENTUCKY 1 Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: 2 Father: TURNER CRUMP Mother: MARY HALLEY 1850 CENSUS CLARKE COUNTY,KY SHOWS MALINDA ROBERT,38, AS POSSIBLE SECOND WIFE. CHILDREN LISTED AS SHOWN. JOHN WAS KNOWN AS 'CAPTAIN' JOHN CRUMP. HE WAS NOT LISTED IN THE 1860 CENSUS.JOHN MAY HAVE MARRIED THREE TIMES. Wife: ELIZABETH BEVERLY FAIRFAX BYRD Married: CA 1804 in: VIRGINIA Born: CA 1782 in: VIRGINIA Died: BEF 1840 in: Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: Father: Mother: RELATED TO ADMIRAL RICHARD EVELYN BYRD,AND HIS BROTHER HARRY FLOOD BYRD,WHO WAS A US SENATOR AND GOVERNOR OF VIRGINIA. ALL ARE DECENDANTS OF POCAHONTAS. OTHER CH? : MARY CA 1805; (m FRANCIS TINCHER). LUCINDA MARIE; NANCY CA 1809; ELIZABETH CA 1811; AND MAHALIA CA 1812. REF: VRS1931@AOL.COM. M Child 1 JOHN ROSSER CRUMP Born: CA 1805 in: FAIRFAX COUNTY VA Died: BEF 1860 in: FAIRFAX COUNTY VA Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: 3 Spouse: KAREN APPICK HARDY LEE b. CA JAN 1824 d. 22 JUL 1904 Married: CA 1850 in: ARLINGTON COUNTY VA MARRIED,CA 1850,KERN APPICK HARDY LEE. 1860 CENSUS ARLINGTON COUNTY VA, Pg 105 LISTS WIDOW AND THREE CHILDREN, NO HUSBAND SIGNS. NOTE: SPOUSE'S PROPER NAME MAY BE "KARENHAPPUCH" FOUND FREQUENTLY IN COLONIAL VIRGINIA. Wife: MALINDA ROBERTS Married: 08 FEB 1830 in: GREENUP COUNTY KY his age: 47 Born: CA 1815 in: KENTUCKY Died: AFT 1870 in: KENTUCKY 4 Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: Father: Mother: REF:1850, 1860 AND 1870 CENSUS, GREENUP CO KY. F Child 1 MARY A CRUMP Born: CA 1832 in: KENTUCKY 5 Died: in: Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: LISTED AS AGE 24 (b 1836) IN 1860 CENSUS. F Child 2 TERESA CRUMP Born: CA 1833 in: KENTUCKY 6 Died: in: Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: Spouse: AMBROSE G HUNT Married: 21 OCT 1857 in: GREENUP CO KY LISTED AGE 17 IN 1850 CENSUS. M Child 3 WILLIAM F CRUMP died at age: 44 Born: CA 1836 in: KENTUCKY 7 Died: AF 1880 in: GREENUP COUNTY KY 8 Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: Spouse: NANCY HUNT b. CA 1842 d. BF 1880 Married: 20 OCT 1857 in: GREENUP COUNTY KY MAY BE HE, M2, 25 SEP 1884, VERLINDA D HARDING, GREENUP CO KY. ALSO IN 1860 HH: HOCKLEY,OWEN 24, b PA, HANNAH (HUNT) 22, b KY, m 30 JUN 1860 SISTER TO NANCY HUNT. M Child 4 THOMAS JEFFERSON CRUMP died at age: 70 Born: 10 JUL 1839 in: GREENUP COUNTY KY 9 Died: AF 1910 in: BOYD CO KY 10 Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: Spouse: NANCY S BRADSHAW b. CA JUL 1843 d. AF 1910 Married: 27 JUL 1859 in: GREENUP COUNTY KY LIVED IN BOYD CO KY IN 1900, 1910 CENSUS. LISTED AGE 70 IN 1910. F Child 5 M.L. CRUMP Born: CA 1842 in: KENTUCKY 6 Died: in: Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: LISTED AGE 8 IN 1850 CENSUS. F Child 6 SARAH M CRUMP Born: CA 1845 in: KENTUCKY 6 Died: in: Ref: SEE REMARKS Occupation: PROBABLY SHE, MARRIED 19 NOV 1870, PETER HICKS, GREENUP CO KY SARAH LISTED AGE 9 IN 1850 CENSUS. 1 1850 CENSUS CLARK CO KY 2 BIBLE RECORD OF TURNER AND MARY HALLEY CRUMP. 3 1860 CENSUS ARLINGTON CO VA 4 1850, 1860, 1870 CENSUS GREENUP CO KY 5 1860 CENSUS GREENUP CO KY 6 1850 CENSUS GREENUP CO KY 7 LISTED AS AGE14 IN 1850 CENSUS. 8 1880 CENSUS GREENUP CO KY 9 LISTED AGE 12 IN 1850 CENSUS 10 1900, 1910 CENSUS BOYD CO KY