This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SandraStephens50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/691.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There are a couple of entries on WorldConnect that may be him - under William H. Crump, born about 1814, died before 1880 in TN. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morganaam Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/691/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Nashville Christian Advocate carried the following entry: WILLIAM HENRY HARRISON CRUMP b Fairfax Co., Va., Nov. 11, 1813; d Gallatin, Tenn., Nov. 8, 1871. Does anyone have any information on this man or other Crumps of Fairfax Co. VA? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vc511 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/568.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: i would like to tell you a few things about my father (wallace crump sr) i was a child when he use to go to wadesboro a lot i do not know if he had another lady down there or not he was in an orphan home in Richmond,va they called it independence for some reason back in maybe 1918 according to the cense he had a sister name Anne crump after the 1920 cense they were no where to be traced he married my mom around 1936(Pearl Searcy) she was from Rockingham county they had a total of 14 children 3 died at birth. i am the third child to the baby. my parents moved around a lot mainly because from my mom's side of the family he was a not so nice person and wanted to keep her away from her family. doing the times he was in wadesboro that was around 1960 or 1963 . i do remember an aunt he always visited in high point,n.c. her name was Flora he also had a cousin by the name of Phillip Yours they traveled a lot together doing lord knows what . he never talked much about his people or where in life he had been,he always said that he had a brother name Ben. he also knew the person name Lester Jessup i do beleive maybe he was from wadesboro he to had a brother by the name of mac jessup. well i am suer that there is more but i cannot remember too much for now. thanks for responding. vera crump Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pamala21 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/568.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, to my knowledge, the Crumps referenced in my previous post are Black. Perhaps there is a link between our Crumps. Pamala Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: vc511 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/568.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: just reading over some post, gettting back to trying to find my father past. wanted to ask would this be a black crump in wadesboro i know that there are a lot of crumps as many white as black but i am looking for the black crumps. thanks v.crump Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morganaam Surnames: Crump Clenny Map Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/690/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following Crumps were in the Gallatin, Sumner County, Tennessee area in the years between about 1810 and 1850 according to census, deed, marriage, and other records. Adam, according to the heirs mentioned in a Notice of Sale (estate) is probably the son of John Bushrod Crump of VA and Montgomery County, NC. W.H. Crump, according to a notice of his death, was born in Fairfax County, VA. Census records generally list the place of birth of the people as VA or NC. A couple of cases list MD. Any help in placing these people in one place or another would be helpful in trying to sort them out. Clenny and May are closely related families. Adam Crump - In Sumner County by 1811, died about 1819 Lewis W. Crump - b. ca. 1798 m. 1842 d. 1849 (wife Mary) George W. Crump - b. ca. 1825 William H. Crump - b. ca. 1815 - d. ca. 1873 William Crump - b. ca. 1779 in VA according to the 1850 Mortality Schedule Leandor Crump - b. ca. 1781 in VA according to the 1850 Mortality Schedule Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Sherri, A Crump on Every Stump has errors. For one thing, Joseph's son Charles of Northampton Co., NC died there in 1763. The book also makes claims that I cannot find any documentary evidence for. However, it is still very valuable. Ed is more familiar with Pittsylvania Crumps than I am. There was a Robert Crump there very early, but the DNA tests (on descendants) does not match the New Kent group if I understand correctly. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Creagh" <sacreagh@hotmail.com> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:37 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] CRUMP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4 Thank you for your info. I had some info sent to me when I first started my Crump line. It is apparently incorrect, I do know from my Grand parents back to 1770 . John Daniel Crump of Pittsylvania Co., VA. He was married to Sarah Cornelious if my info is correct. Do you know anything about this line of Crumps? I just got a photographed copy of a Crump on Every Stump to go through. Hopefully it will be enlightening. If you have any info on this group I would appreciate it. The Dallas Library is very large and has a great genealogy department. I have done alot of research there. If there are records you know of maybe we have them too. I have seen Adventures of Purse and Persons and Cavaliers and Pioneers If you know of something else please let me know. Thanks Again Sherri Creagh> From: crump-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: CRUMP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:02:27 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 2. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Ed Crump, Jr.)> 3. Re: Adam Crump Gallatin, TN (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 4. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS)> 5. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Bonnie Flythe)> 6. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS)> 7. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Bonnie Flythe)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:10:35 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1232489436.432720@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: sacreagh1> Surnames: > Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran across these second group of wives> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:31:03 -0600> From: "Ed Crump, Jr." <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <7D1A744C4B2E48F5AC6F1438981F2798@DG5H9H51>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Personally, I do NOT believe that Robert Crump who married Mary Parr was > descended from the New Kent County, VA, Crumps. In fact, I'm sure of it. > Secondly, I do NOT believe that William Crump who was father to Stephen in > the second or so generation was a son of Thomas Crump. We don't know who > this William's parents were, but certainly not Thomas and Elizabeth Buck(e).> > Over the past 70+ years many authors including Harllee in the 1930's thought > a single William of the 1640's was son of Sgt. Thomas. We now know that > there were two contemporary William Crumps and now most of us do not believe > that either was son of Sgt. Thomas.. Lots of documenation to refute it, but > NONE to support it.> > Again, just my opinion, but a number of us researchers have been working on > this for the past 15 years or so. DNA testing has definitely seperated these > two Williams.> > Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of more assistance.> > Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:32:46 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1232490766.437863@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: sacreagh1> Surnames: Crump,Nix,Crumley,Creagh> Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.1/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > Have Stephen (1655-1700)> Rolen (1808-1901)> Names alot of times run in a family line. These were from VA,AL,and GA. Started in New Kent Co. VA. If I can help let me know. > > sacreagh@hotmail.com> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:18:22 -0800 (PST)> From: SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS <twssls@flash.net>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <172182.53431.qm@web83501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > I agree with Ed.? And from what I have seen, Robert was married to (1) Alice Walker, and (2) Elizabeth Anderson.? My husband is descended from Joseph, Jr.> ?> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> wrote:> > From: Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 4:31 PM> > Personally, I do NOT believe that Robert Crump who married Mary Parr was > descended from the New Kent County, VA, Crumps. In fact, I'm sure of it. > Secondly, I do NOT believe that William Crump who was father to Stephen in > the second or so generation was a son of Thomas Crump. We don't know who > this William's parents were, but certainly not Thomas and Elizabeth> Buck(e).> > Over the past 70+ years many authors including Harllee in the 1930's> thought > a single William of the 1640's was son of Sgt. Thomas. We now know that > there were two contemporary William Crumps and now most of us do not believe > that either was son of Sgt. Thomas.. Lots of documenation to refute it, but > NONE to support it.> > Again, just my opinion, but a number of us researchers have been working on > this for the past 15 years or so. DNA testing has definitely seperated these > two Williams.> > Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of more assistance.> > Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:11:31 -0500> From: "Bonnie Flythe" <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <801E20BA4401472AA58095271053303F@DELLDESKTOP>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not > mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, > Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, > son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but > apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested > by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, > but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:15:30 -0800 (PST)> From: SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS <twssls@flash.net>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <184675.12137.qm@web83502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher?? I had Christopher.? Also, I had Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?> ?> Thanks,> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote:> > From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not > mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, > Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, > son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but > apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested > by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, > but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:37:28 -0500> From: "Bonnie Flythe" <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <twssls@flash.net>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <487E4BB0D6D7474DACC1A16AC3F7C878@DELLDESKTOP>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The will has Christian (typescript) and the land tax lists have Christian, > Christopher, and Chr ! The name hints at a possible relationship with the > Christian family of NK, but I have not found any proof. I guess we get to > pick!> Likewise, Josiah is also called Josias, Jesse and even Jonas in Northampton. > At least, I have always thought that the appearance of a Jonas Crump and a > Jesse Crump did not represent two other men especially in the context. > Spelling in those days was pretty flexible!> I just use whatever spelling appears when I am abstracting documents.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS" <twssls@flash.net>> To: <crump@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:15 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher? I had Christopher. Also, I had > Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?> > Thanks,> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote:> > From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not> mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson,> Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC,> son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but> apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested> by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others,> but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads> > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right> > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I> > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr> > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are> > these 2 different Roberts. 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Thank you for your info. I had some info sent to me when I first started my Crump line. It is apparently incorrect, I do know from my Grand parents back to 1770 . John Daniel Crump of Pittsylvania Co., VA. He was married to Sarah Cornelious if my info is correct. Do you know anything about this line of Crumps? I just got a photographed copy of a Crump on Every Stump to go through. Hopefully it will be enlightening. If you have any info on this group I would appreciate it. The Dallas Library is very large and has a great genealogy department. I have done alot of research there. If there are records you know of maybe we have them too. I have seen Adventures of Purse and Persons and Cavaliers and Pioneers If you know of something else please let me know. Thanks Again Sherri Creagh> From: crump-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: CRUMP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:02:27 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 2. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Ed Crump, Jr.)> 3. Re: Adam Crump Gallatin, TN (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 4. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS)> 5. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Bonnie Flythe)> 6. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS)> 7. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Bonnie Flythe)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:10:35 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1232489436.432720@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: sacreagh1> Surnames: > Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran across these second group of wives> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:31:03 -0600> From: "Ed Crump, Jr." <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <7D1A744C4B2E48F5AC6F1438981F2798@DG5H9H51>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Personally, I do NOT believe that Robert Crump who married Mary Parr was > descended from the New Kent County, VA, Crumps. In fact, I'm sure of it. > Secondly, I do NOT believe that William Crump who was father to Stephen in > the second or so generation was a son of Thomas Crump. We don't know who > this William's parents were, but certainly not Thomas and Elizabeth Buck(e).> > Over the past 70+ years many authors including Harllee in the 1930's thought > a single William of the 1640's was son of Sgt. Thomas. We now know that > there were two contemporary William Crumps and now most of us do not believe > that either was son of Sgt. Thomas.. Lots of documenation to refute it, but > NONE to support it.> > Again, just my opinion, but a number of us researchers have been working on > this for the past 15 years or so. DNA testing has definitely seperated these > two Williams.> > Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of more assistance.> > Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:32:46 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1232490766.437863@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: sacreagh1> Surnames: Crump,Nix,Crumley,Creagh> Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.1/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > Have Stephen (1655-1700)> Rolen (1808-1901)> Names alot of times run in a family line. These were from VA,AL,and GA. Started in New Kent Co. VA. If I can help let me know. > > sacreagh@hotmail.com> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:18:22 -0800 (PST)> From: SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS <twssls@flash.net>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <172182.53431.qm@web83501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > I agree with Ed.? And from what I have seen, Robert was married to (1) Alice Walker, and (2) Elizabeth Anderson.? My husband is descended from Joseph, Jr.> ?> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> wrote:> > From: Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 4:31 PM> > Personally, I do NOT believe that Robert Crump who married Mary Parr was > descended from the New Kent County, VA, Crumps. In fact, I'm sure of it. > Secondly, I do NOT believe that William Crump who was father to Stephen in > the second or so generation was a son of Thomas Crump. We don't know who > this William's parents were, but certainly not Thomas and Elizabeth> Buck(e).> > Over the past 70+ years many authors including Harllee in the 1930's> thought > a single William of the 1640's was son of Sgt. Thomas. We now know that > there were two contemporary William Crumps and now most of us do not believe > that either was son of Sgt. Thomas.. Lots of documenation to refute it, but > NONE to support it.> > Again, just my opinion, but a number of us researchers have been working on > this for the past 15 years or so. DNA testing has definitely seperated these > two Williams.> > Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of more assistance.> > Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:11:31 -0500> From: "Bonnie Flythe" <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <801E20BA4401472AA58095271053303F@DELLDESKTOP>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not > mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, > Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, > son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but > apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested > by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, > but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:15:30 -0800 (PST)> From: SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS <twssls@flash.net>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <184675.12137.qm@web83502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher?? I had Christopher.? Also, I had Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?> ?> Thanks,> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote:> > From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not > mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, > Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, > son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but > apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested > by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, > but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:37:28 -0500> From: "Bonnie Flythe" <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <twssls@flash.net>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <487E4BB0D6D7474DACC1A16AC3F7C878@DELLDESKTOP>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The will has Christian (typescript) and the land tax lists have Christian, > Christopher, and Chr ! The name hints at a possible relationship with the > Christian family of NK, but I have not found any proof. I guess we get to > pick!> Likewise, Josiah is also called Josias, Jesse and even Jonas in Northampton. > At least, I have always thought that the appearance of a Jonas Crump and a > Jesse Crump did not represent two other men especially in the context. > Spelling in those days was pretty flexible!> I just use whatever spelling appears when I am abstracting documents.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS" <twssls@flash.net>> To: <crump@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:15 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher? I had Christopher. Also, I had > Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?> > Thanks,> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote:> > From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not> mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson,> Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC,> son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but> apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested> by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others,> but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads> > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right> > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I> > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr> > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are> > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran> > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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Sherri Creagh> From: crump-request@rootsweb.com> Subject: CRUMP Digest, Vol 4, Issue 4> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 01:02:27 -0700> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 2. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Ed Crump, Jr.)> 3. Re: Adam Crump Gallatin, TN (gc-gateway@rootsweb.com)> 4. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS)> 5. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Bonnie Flythe)> 6. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> (SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS)> 7. Re: Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. (Bonnie Flythe)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:10:35 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1232489436.432720@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: sacreagh1> Surnames: > Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran across these second group of wives> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:31:03 -0600> From: "Ed Crump, Jr." <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <7D1A744C4B2E48F5AC6F1438981F2798@DG5H9H51>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > Personally, I do NOT believe that Robert Crump who married Mary Parr was > descended from the New Kent County, VA, Crumps. In fact, I'm sure of it. > Secondly, I do NOT believe that William Crump who was father to Stephen in > the second or so generation was a son of Thomas Crump. We don't know who > this William's parents were, but certainly not Thomas and Elizabeth Buck(e).> > Over the past 70+ years many authors including Harllee in the 1930's thought > a single William of the 1640's was son of Sgt. Thomas. We now know that > there were two contemporary William Crumps and now most of us do not believe > that either was son of Sgt. Thomas.. Lots of documenation to refute it, but > NONE to support it.> > Again, just my opinion, but a number of us researchers have been working on > this for the past 15 years or so. DNA testing has definitely seperated these > two Williams.> > Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of more assistance.> > Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:32:46 -0000> From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <1232490766.437863@rootsweb.com>> Content-Type: text/plain;> > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> > Author: sacreagh1> Surnames: Crump,Nix,Crumley,Creagh> Classification: queries> > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.1/mb.ashx> > Message Board Post:> > Have Stephen (1655-1700)> Rolen (1808-1901)> Names alot of times run in a family line. These were from VA,AL,and GA. Started in New Kent Co. VA. If I can help let me know. > > sacreagh@hotmail.com> > Important Note:> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:18:22 -0800 (PST)> From: SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS <twssls@flash.net>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <172182.53431.qm@web83501.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > I agree with Ed.? And from what I have seen, Robert was married to (1) Alice Walker, and (2) Elizabeth Anderson.? My husband is descended from Joseph, Jr.> ?> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> wrote:> > From: Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 4:31 PM> > Personally, I do NOT believe that Robert Crump who married Mary Parr was > descended from the New Kent County, VA, Crumps. In fact, I'm sure of it. > Secondly, I do NOT believe that William Crump who was father to Stephen in > the second or so generation was a son of Thomas Crump. We don't know who > this William's parents were, but certainly not Thomas and Elizabeth> Buck(e).> > Over the past 70+ years many authors including Harllee in the 1930's> thought > a single William of the 1640's was son of Sgt. Thomas. We now know that > there were two contemporary William Crumps and now most of us do not believe > that either was son of Sgt. Thomas.. Lots of documenation to refute it, but > NONE to support it.> > Again, just my opinion, but a number of us researchers have been working on > this for the past 15 years or so. DNA testing has definitely seperated these > two Williams.> > Thanks for your post and let me know if I can be of more assistance.> > Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 4:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:11:31 -0500> From: "Bonnie Flythe" <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <801E20BA4401472AA58095271053303F@DELLDESKTOP>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not > mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, > Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, > son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but > apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested > by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, > but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:15:30 -0800 (PST)> From: SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS <twssls@flash.net>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: crump@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <184675.12137.qm@web83502.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> > Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher?? I had Christopher.? Also, I had Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?> ?> Thanks,> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote:> > From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not > mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, > Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, > son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but > apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested > by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, > but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > > across these second group of wives> >> > Important Note:> > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board.> >> >> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 7> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:37:28 -0500> From: "Bonnie Flythe" <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: <twssls@flash.net>, <crump@rootsweb.com>> Message-ID: <487E4BB0D6D7474DACC1A16AC3F7C878@DELLDESKTOP>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > The will has Christian (typescript) and the land tax lists have Christian, > Christopher, and Chr ! The name hints at a possible relationship with the > Christian family of NK, but I have not found any proof. I guess we get to > pick!> Likewise, Josiah is also called Josias, Jesse and even Jonas in Northampton. > At least, I have always thought that the appearance of a Jonas Crump and a > Jesse Crump did not represent two other men especially in the context. > Spelling in those days was pretty flexible!> I just use whatever spelling appears when I am abstracting documents.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS" <twssls@flash.net>> To: <crump@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:15 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher? I had Christopher. Also, I had > Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?> > Thanks,> Sandra> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote:> > From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com>> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM> > I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not> mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson,> Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC,> son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but> apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested> by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others,> but the court decided that the will was valid.> Hope this helps.> Bonnie> ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA.> > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.> >> > Author: sacreagh1> > Surnames:> > Classification: queries> >> > Message Board URL:> >> > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx> >> > Message Board Post:> >> > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads> > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right> > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I> > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr> > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are> > these 2 different Roberts. 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Allen, my Adam had two sons by his first wife who apparently died between the time my Adam wrote his will in 1748 and the time it was finally probabet in 1853. His two sons and one daughter by his second wife all moved to Montgomery Co., NC in the 1770's. Most of them died there, but John Bushrod, Jr. moved to Mississippi and died there. No evidence of any of them evere being in Tennessee. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Morgan" <morgan_aam@yahoo.com> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN Ed, I do not have any answer about a third Adam. His Will only mentioned two daughters, so I had discounted him in relation to my John R. I now wonder if the newly mentioned heirs never did live in Tennessee. What location do you have for this John Bushrod Crump and the mentioned children? Allen Morgan --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> wrote: From: Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 2:11 PM This is most strange. Prior to 1850 I can only find two Adam Crumps. One was my ancestor and the other one was a grandson to Conrad Crump, but he wasn't born until 1827. My adam died between 1750 and 1752 in VA. My adam never lived in Tennessee. I don't think the other one did either. So, there must have been another Adam Crump around that I don't know anything about. But, I am certain that John Bushrod Crump had chlildren Stephen, Nancy (Harris) and the other one you named. Any ideas? Ed Crump ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: morganaam > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > That is the correct names of descendants, but the dates don't work. This > Adam Crump died sometime before 1820 in Gallatin, Sumner County, > Tennessee. This information, published in the newspaper at the time > should be accurate. There is no record of a John Bushrod Crump and the > John I decend from died ca. 1866. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is most strange. Prior to 1850 I can only find two Adam Crumps. One was my ancestor and the other one was a grandson to Conrad Crump, but he wasn't born until 1827. My adam died between 1750 and 1752 in VA. My adam never lived in Tennessee. I don't think the other one did either. So, there must have been another Adam Crump around that I don't know anything about. But, I am certain that John Bushrod Crump had chlildren Stephen, Nancy (Harris) and the other one you named. Any ideas? Ed Crump ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: morganaam > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > That is the correct names of descendants, but the dates don't work. This > Adam Crump died sometime before 1820 in Gallatin, Sumner County, > Tennessee. This information, published in the newspaper at the time > should be accurate. There is no record of a John Bushrod Crump and the > John I decend from died ca. 1866. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Ed, I do not have any answer about a third Adam.  His Will only mentioned two daughters, so I had discounted him in relation to my John R.  I now wonder if the newly mentioned heirs never did live in Tennessee.  What location do you have for this John Bushrod Crump and the mentioned children? Allen Morgan --- On Fri, 1/23/09, Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> wrote: From: Ed Crump, Jr. <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 2:11 PM This is most strange. Prior to 1850 I can only find two Adam Crumps. One was my ancestor and the other one was a grandson to Conrad Crump, but he wasn't born until 1827. My adam died between 1750 and 1752 in VA. My adam never lived in Tennessee. I don't think the other one did either. So, there must have been another Adam Crump around that I don't know anything about. But, I am certain that John Bushrod Crump had chlildren Stephen, Nancy (Harris) and the other one you named. Any ideas? Ed Crump ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: morganaam > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.2.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > That is the correct names of descendants, but the dates don't work. This > Adam Crump died sometime before 1820 in Gallatin, Sumner County, > Tennessee. This information, published in the newspaper at the time > should be accurate. There is no record of a John Bushrod Crump and the > John I decend from died ca. 1866. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ed Like you I've been trying to figure this out. The Sumner County TN Gen Web has a partial will of Adam ,dated 1815. I sent for a copy of the complete will. My guess right now is that Adam is a brother of our John and James Crump. Haven't been in touch with you for a long time, hope all is going well. Neil O'Hara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Crump, Jr." <edcrump@coughlinsaunders.org> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN > This is most strange. Prior to 1850 I can only find two Adam Crumps. One > was > my ancestor and the other one was a grandson to Conrad Crump, but he > wasn't > born until 1827. My adam died between 1750 and 1752 in VA. My adam never > lived in Tennessee. I don't think the other one did either. So, there must > have been another Adam Crump around that I don't know anything about. But, > I > am certain that John Bushrod Crump had chlildren Stephen, Nancy (Harris) > and > the other one you named. Any ideas? Ed Crump > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> > To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Adam Crump Gallatin, TN > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Author: morganaam >> Surnames: >> Classification: queries >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.2.1/mb.ashx >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> That is the correct names of descendants, but the dates don't work. This >> Adam Crump died sometime before 1820 in Gallatin, Sumner County, >> Tennessee. This information, published in the newspaper at the time >> should be accurate. There is no record of a John Bushrod Crump and the >> John I decend from died ca. 1866. >> >> Important Note: >> The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you >> would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link >> above and respond on the board. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dust878 Surnames: Crump, Puett Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/689/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Howard Crump (April 19, 1932 - January 14, 2009) Sign Guest Book | Send Private Condolences Howard Crump, age 76, of Watson Road, Lenoir, died Wednesday, January 14, 2009. He was born April 19, 1932 in Avery Co. to the late Joseph Authur and Doris Puett Crump. Services will be held at a later date. Online condolences may be left at www.greer-mcelveenfuneralhome.com. Greer-McElveen Funeral Home and Crematory is in charge of arrangements. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: morganaam Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That is the correct names of descendants, but the dates don't work. This Adam Crump died sometime before 1820 in Gallatin, Sumner County, Tennessee. This information, published in the newspaper at the time should be accurate. There is no record of a John Bushrod Crump and the John I decend from died ca. 1866. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: EdCrump50 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Stephen, Nancy Harris, and Rowland were three of seven children of John Bushrod Crump, son of Adam Crump. Adam Crump died about 1750 and John Bushrod died in 1837. John Bushrod was born in VA and all his children in NC. I have no knowledge of any of them owning property in Tennessee. Rowland had a son named John, but I have no middle initial or name. This John was born Nov 25, 1828 and died Sep 21, 1900, so I'm not sure if this is the same as your John. Ed Crump, Jr. in Louisiana Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The will has Christian (typescript) and the land tax lists have Christian, Christopher, and Chr ! The name hints at a possible relationship with the Christian family of NK, but I have not found any proof. I guess we get to pick! Likewise, Josiah is also called Josias, Jesse and even Jonas in Northampton. At least, I have always thought that the appearance of a Jonas Crump and a Jesse Crump did not represent two other men especially in the context. Spelling in those days was pretty flexible! I just use whatever spelling appears when I am abstracting documents. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "SANDRA & THOMAS STEPHENS" <twssls@flash.net> To: <crump@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher? I had Christopher. Also, I had Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias? Thanks, Sandra --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote: From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, but the court decided that the will was valid. Hope this helps. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: sacreagh1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > across these second group of wives > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sacreagh1 Surnames: Crump,Nix,Crumley,Creagh Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/688.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have Stephen (1655-1700) Rolen (1808-1901) Names alot of times run in a family line. These were from VA,AL,and GA. Started in New Kent Co. VA. If I can help let me know. sacreagh@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sacreagh1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran across these second group of wives Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Bonnie, was the son Christian or Christopher?  I had Christopher.  Also, I had Josiah as brother of Robert - was the correct spelling Josias?   Thanks, Sandra --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> wrote: From: Bonnie Flythe <fly1776@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. To: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com, crump@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 6:11 PM I think Ed is right. I have the text of Robert's will and he did not mention a son John. His sons were Christian, Robert, Josiah, Anderson, Richard and Thomas. My ancestor was Josias Crump of Northampton Co., NC, son of Joseph and brother of Robert. Robert's will was dated 1801, but apparently not finally probated until 1805. At that time it was contested by "some of the relatives of the said Crump, James(?) Garnett and others, but the court decided that the will was valid. Hope this helps. Bonnie ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <CRUMP-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [CRUMP] Crump Families-1700's-New Kent Co. VA. > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: sacreagh1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.crump/189.343.346.3/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > My crumps are from NK Co VA. My line reads > THomas,William,Stephen,Robert,Joseph,Robert,John,James,Matthew,Emma right > now. Are you knowledgeable on Joseph (M) Cassandra and their children? I > have a problem with Josephs son Robert. I have him married to Mary Parr > but have come across info stating (1)Alice Walker (2) Elizabeth also. Are > these 2 different Roberts. I thought I had my linage complete until I ran > across these second group of wives > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CRUMP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message