Tricia, The will of John Cromley/Crumley states specifically whom his children were. But I also have no dates for them other than estimated ones. We must remember that we have nothing to provide us with these sons dates of birth, other than the marriage of the parents. I also noticed that previous question regarding the name James, being not a son of John and Catherine has to be correct. For the submission I just sent states cleary that the "other" James was alive some 30 years after the elder James died. As he was a witness at the marrige that took place in 1794! I am wondering as others already have suggested, that this younger James was perhaps a grandson! A child perhaps of Thomas, Henry, or the other son. Judy Judy