Judy, I and others have been to Winchester and spent some time there. James the original, will is on file. It does not mention a son James at all. At the Crumley pow wow this summer no one could provide any paper trail for this son James. Ken At 10:39 AM 9/27/02 -0400, you wrote: >Let me once again check the book by Kerns that is available to me. I think >that I have read everything possible in it already, but that was sometime >ago. I have shared some of it with Truett. No, I have not researched these >two Crumbley males myself. Finding the presence of all of them in that one >1820 census stimluated me look into the name Thomas, as I did not have him >listed as their child. Now you mention that James is not proven! Do we need >fto do some work here, or what? >Oh when I think of the many times I was right there in Winchester, Va. and >could have done this. But back then I was not aware of my Crumbley line. My >Mason connection resided over on Back Creek, very near Apple Pie ridge and >the Quaker community! Perhaps we shall get some response on all of this >from others, and what documentation they may have-if there exists any! >Thanks! >Judy >