Does anyone else have a copy of the book by Allan Ray Wenzel of Seattle, Wa. entitled "The Crumley Family"? It seems to be an "add on" to Mottern's book and is about 180 pages. The foreword mentions three separate Crumley families who immigrated in the 1700's and settled in Lehigh Co., Pa. and Virginia areas. Two of these are the Valentine and George Crumley groups who lived in Pa.. The German Crumleys had changed their name from Gramlich/Kramlich to Krumly/Crumley. The possiblity that the James Crumley line is related to the German line seems remote and would have been prior to the mid 1700's if at all. The book also lists Henry (1780-1864) and Stephen (1784-1837) Crumley who moved to Fountain Co., In. and states that "family tradition" says they are sons of George I. I believe this has been proven to be false. Ken in Orlando At 12:18 PM 04/12/2002 EDT, you wrote: >Hi, Hugh, Jr! > Thanks for letting me know that I wasn't committing an "illegal >activity" by offering to print copies of my family's cherished Crumley "big >book" compiled by your father. It is just such a wonderful thing & I've >enjoyed it since I was a child. Didn't know how many original copies were >still left out there but I wanted to share mine w/ whomever was interested. >And it seems like there are ALOT of Crumleys out there interested in >genealogy. Computers are a miracle of the modern age when it comes to this >kind of research---makes info & staying in touch instantaneous! > By the way, on another interesting little note.....It was my mom's Uncle >Cy (my great uncle who I only met once) who was the long-time conductor of >the train called "Tweetsie" and whose photo your father saw in the newspaper >in St. Louis that prompted his research....leading to his decades of hard >work in the Crumley family genealogy research. I remember my mom telling me >about your father who started his work when she was young at the time: "This >old man came to town and stayed for weeks. He went to all kinds of places >searching for records and even out into the woods looking for old >gravestones." In fact, I'm heading over to the Las Vegas area next week to >visit my parents and I know she'll get a big kick out of me hearing from Hugh >Mottern, Jr. and from Ken Hodge, her cousin's son. Alot easier to keep track >of people this day and age as opposed to just a few yrs ago! > Thanks for the "reprint permission" if needed! Patty in California > >

I too have a copy of the Wenzel book. It's available for copying on microfilm from the LDS Family History Center- listed in their catalog. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kenneth Hodge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] George Crumley Book > Does anyone else have a copy of the book by Allan Ray Wenzel of Seattle, > Wa. entitled "The Crumley Family"? It seems to be an "add on" to Mottern's > book and is about 180 pages. The foreword mentions three separate Crumley > families who immigrated in the 1700's and settled in Lehigh Co., Pa. and > Virginia areas. Two of these are the Valentine and George Crumley groups > who lived in Pa.. The German Crumleys had changed their name from > Gramlich/Kramlich to Krumly/Crumley. The possiblity that the James Crumley > line is related to the German line seems remote and would have been prior > to the mid 1700's if at all. > > The book also lists Henry (1780-1864) and Stephen (1784-1837) Crumley who > moved to Fountain Co., In. and states that "family tradition" says they are > sons of George I. I believe this has been proven to be false. > > Ken in Orlando > > At 12:18 PM 04/12/2002 EDT, you wrote: > >Hi, Hugh, Jr! > > Thanks for letting me know that I wasn't committing an "illegal > >activity" by offering to print copies of my family's cherished Crumley "big > >book" compiled by your father. It is just such a wonderful thing & I've > >enjoyed it since I was a child. Didn't know how many original copies were > >still left out there but I wanted to share mine w/ whomever was interested. > >And it seems like there are ALOT of Crumleys out there interested in > >genealogy. Computers are a miracle of the modern age when it comes to this > >kind of research---makes info & staying in touch instantaneous! > > By the way, on another interesting little note.....It was my mom's > Uncle > >Cy (my great uncle who I only met once) who was the long-time conductor of > >the train called "Tweetsie" and whose photo your father saw in the newspaper > >in St. Louis that prompted his research....leading to his decades of hard > >work in the Crumley family genealogy research. I remember my mom telling me > >about your father who started his work when she was young at the time: > "This > >old man came to town and stayed for weeks. He went to all kinds of places > >searching for records and even out into the woods looking for old > >gravestones." In fact, I'm heading over to the Las Vegas area next week to > >visit my parents and I know she'll get a big kick out of me hearing from > Hugh > >Mottern, Jr. and from Ken Hodge, her cousin's son. Alot easier to keep > track > >of people this day and age as opposed to just a few yrs ago! > > Thanks for the "reprint permission" if needed! Patty in California > > > > >