John C. Witzel age 67, Occ: work in Grist Mill, b. NC (both parents born in NC) Charlotte T. Witzel wife age 50 b. NC (both parents b. NC) Margerette G. Crumby Dau age 39 b. GA (both parents born in NC) John Crumby grson age 23, b. GA, occ: well digging, (father b. NC, mother b. GA) Poley Crumby grson age 6, b GA, (father b.----, Mother b. GA) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geniebug" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:42 AM Subject: Witzel and Crumby (sic) > I looked up John and Charlotte Witzel on the 1880 census for you and found: > 1880 Fannin Co., GA. Mobile, p. 637-D > John C. Witzel 67 NC > Charlotte T. Witzel wife 50 NC > Margerett G. Crumby dau 23 GA. > John grson 23 GA > Poley grson 6 GA > This is from the LDS census CD's and how they have them listed. > Hope this helps you. > Nancy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "dwchambers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: [CRUMLEY] To Kenneth & Clara Crumbly > > > > At 07:17 PM 4/11/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > >Yes I had seen that the other day in one of your postings to me. > > > > > >Well here is the problem with these twins. > > > > > >If Margaret's husband William Erwin shot her grandfather in 1858 and > > >Margaret moved back home to her parents, then might these twins be the > > >children of Margaret instead of Charlotte? > > > > > >Truett Crumley says that all of Charles Thomas Crumley family moved to MO > > >somewhere around this time. He even has a wife's name for William Erwin. > > >So do the dates in the Witzel family line support that these children are > > >children of Margaret not of her mother Charlotte? My data is not that > good > > >here because I had to assume a birthdate for Charlotte (b.abt. 1821) I do > > >know for 100% accurate that John Witzel and Charlotte attended the > wedding > > >of her brother, and my ggrandfather William Oliver to Elizabeth Angeline > > >Patterson. So I know her maiden name was Crumbly. What do the Witzel > > >researchers say is the birthdate of William Erwin or Margaret Witzel???? > > > > > >Comments? > > >Ken > > ========== > > Hi Ken, Here is the comment by a Wetzel descendant: > > > > "About the email from Ken, could you please convey to him that on the > "1860" > > census the twins were 4 years old. That would be two years before the > murder > > in 1858. > > > > If you subtract 4 from 1860 you come up with 1856 which is 2 years before > > the death of Margaret's grandfather! > > > > If those twins were born in 1856, they could have been Charlottes or > > Margaret's children. Guess this is one more problem to solve! > > > > I wonder if these two little boys appeared on the 1870 or 1880 census, > that > > census might help clear this up." > > > > Best regards, Doyle > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Research site: > > http://www.dwchambers.com > > > > >